Why I am Not A Christian - Bertrand Russell

[Bluray]

I know you are frustrated. Bado unaleta garbage kibao.

Why use a word which has no meaning? What is God?

Apparently you don't even understand the meaning of conception, just because something is not there, it does not mean we cannot conceive it.

Otherwise the entire enterprise of "fiction books" would not exist.

God is a name, a fictitious character, just like Willy Gamba and James Bond or Sherlock Holmes au Adili na nduguze.

Just because I am using their names or reading stories with them as characters, it does not mean they must be real then.

Yaani mimi nilitegemea serious philosophical debate and questions, wewe unakuja kunionyesha kwamba hujui hata kufikiri.

Aibu, tafuta mtu akusaidie kupitia post zako kabla hujazipost hapa na kujiabisha zaidi kwa kuanika utupu wako.

 

[MaxShimba]

Apparently you don't even understand the meaning of conception, just because something is not there, it does not mean we cannot conceive it.

Otherwise the entire enterprise of "fiction books" would not exist.

God is a name, a fictitious character, just like Willy Gamba and James Bond or Sherlock Holmes au Adili na nduguze.

Just because I am using their names or reading stories with them as characters, it does not mean they must be real then.

Yaani mimi nilitegemea serious philosophical debate and questions, wewe unakuja kunionyesha kwamba hujui hata kufikiri.

Aibu, tafuta mtu akusaidie kupitia post zako kabla hujazipost hapa na kujiabisha zaidi kwa kuanika utupu wako.

I don't need to understand your concept.

Why use a word which has no meaning? What is God?

 

[Bluray]

I don't need to understand your concept.

Why use a word which has no meaning? What is God?

The fact that the word "God" has a meaning, does not mean god exist.

In the Star Trek series there is a tribe of people called "Kilingons", mention "Klingon" to any person who is familiar with Star Trek and he will understand, apparently, Klingon has a meaning. they even have an artificially engineered language.

But do these Klingon actually exist? no, they are fictitious.

Similarly, there are comics and movies about Super Man, Bat Man, Spider Man etc. Any avid comic reader, or the average movie goer, will be familiar with these, these names have a meaning.But does that mean Super Man exist somewhere? No, they are fictitious characters.

God is similarly fictitious. If you can't understand that, this will be more evidence that god (The Judeo-Christian one) does not exist, because an all powerful and compassionate god cannot create a human being that dumb.

 

[MaxShimba]

The fact that the word "God" has a meaning, does not mean god exist.

In the Star Trek series there is a tribe of people called "Kilingons", mention "Klingon" to any person who is familiar with Star Trek and he will understand, apparently, Klingon has a meaning. they even have an artificially engineered language.

But do these Klingon actually exist? no, they are fictitious.

Similarly, there are comics and movies about Super Man, Bat Man, Spider Man etc. Any avid comic reader, or the average movie goer, will be familiar with these, these names have a meaning.But does that mean Super Man exist somewhere? No, they are fictitious characters.

God is similarly fictitious. If you can't understand that, this will be more evidence that god (The Judeo-Christian one) does not exist, because an all powerful and compassionate god cannot create a human being that dumb.

Naona hali imekuwa ngumu kwako, sasa unaleta sinema za Hollywood. Kaazi kweli kweli.

Prove to me that God is fictitious? Unazunguka tu, halafu unadai umeweka jibu. Show me how is God fictitious? Is he a John Doe? Prove to me that John Doe does not exist? I need tangible, airtight, verifiables proofs that are impeccables?

Ndio maana nilikuuliza, hivi wewe ulisha wahi file a lawsuit in Court?

 

[Kituko]

jamani naomba niulize swali ambalo liliulizwa mwanzo lakini sikukupata majibu ambayo yalinilidhisha, labda naomba niliweke swali hivi,
kama tunavyofahamu na kusoma kwenye vitabu kwamba kulikuwa hakuna mtume/nabii yoyote aliyekuja hapa Tanzania, na katika makabila yote ya Tanzania yana neno Mungu ambalo almost linashabihihana kwenye matamshi(Mungu, mulungu, mlungu nk), na huyo mungu hakuwa na mahusiano yoyote na wakristo wala waislamu, sasaswali ni kuwa hawa jamaa(mababu) ilikuwaje wakawa na ufahamu wa kujua kuna Mungu, na hii sio Tanzania pekee bali ni Afrika nzima ni nani aliyewafunulia hayo?

 

[MaxShimba]

jamani naomba niulize swali ambalo liliulizwa mwanzo lakini sikukupata majibu ambayo yalinilidhisha, labda naomba niliweke swali hivi,
kama tunavyofahamu na kusoma kwenye vitabu kwamba kulikuwa hakuna mtume/nabii yoyote aliyekuja hapa Tanzania, na katika makabila yote ya Tanzania yana neno Mungu ambalo almost linashabihihana kwenye matamshi(Mungu, mulungu, mlungu nk), na huyo mungu hakuwa na mahusiano yoyote na wakristo wala waislamu, sasaswali ni kuwa hawa jamaa(mababu) ilikuwaje wakawa na ufahamu wa kujua kuna Mungu, na hii sio Tanzania pekee bali ni Afrika nzima ni nani aliyewafunulia hayo?

Mungu ndie aliye wafunulia.

 

[Kituko]

Mungu ndie aliye wafunulia.

kwa kweli nadhani hapa ndipo pa kujenga hoja, ni kuwa kama kuna watu waoamini kuwa hizi dini ni sababu ya utawala au kuleta amani basi thinking zao zinaanzia pale kwenye hizi dini za ukristo na uislamu na ndio maana huyo jamaa kaja na hiyo topic "why iam not a xtian" kwa sababu hapo ndio ulikuwa upeo wake wa kufikikiri, hebu tujaribu kufikiria hili kw amakini hivi ni kweli dini zote zilizoanza afrika kabla ya ukristo na uislamu zilikuwa ni za kuzuga?
hivi ni kweli waafrika walikuwa awajuhi kuwa kuna mungu before islamu/xtian kama jibu ni ndio basi ningeomba tuanzie kujadili kutokea huko na sio hap kwenye ukristo na uislamu ambao haujazidi miaka 2000

 

[MaxShimba]

kwa kweli nadhani hapa ndipo pa kujenga hoja, ni kuwa kama kuna watu waoamini kuwa hizi dini ni sababu ya utawala au kuleta amani basi thinking zao zinaanzia pale kwenye hizi dini za ukristo na uislamu na ndio maana huyo jamaa kaja na hiyo topic "why iam not a xtian" kwa sababu hapo ndio ulikuwa upeo wake wa kufikikiri, hebu tujaribu kufikiria hili kw amakini hivi ni kweli dini zote zilizoanza afrika kabla ya ukristo na uislamu zilikuwa ni za kuzuga?
hivi ni kweli waafrika walikuwa awajuhi kuwa kuna mungu before islamu/xtian kama jibu ni ndio basi ningeomba tuanzie kujadili kutokea huko na sio hap kwenye ukristo na uislamu ambao haujazidi miaka 2000

Kama ukisoma Biblia, kuna habari moja ya Ethiopian Eunuchs ambaye alikutana na Philips. Habari hiyo inasema kuwa hawa Waethiopia ilikuwa ni customary yao kwenda Israel kuabudu Mungu hata kabla ya Ukristo kuanza, meaning even before Jesus was born.

This Ethiopian Eunuchs alikuwa anasoma kitabu cha Prophecy cha Isaiah. Hivyo basi, si Wakristo wala Waislam, wala mtu yeyote aliyewafumbua binadamu kuhusu uwepo wa Mungu, bali ni Mungu mwenyewe kwa nguvu na uwezo wake.

It is shame and sad to see few minorities here at JF wanapigania kitu ambacho kimewashinda kuleta ushaidi kusaidia hoja zao pungufu.

 

[Bluray]

Naona hali imekuwa ngumu kwako, sasa unaleta sinema za Hollywood. Kaazi kweli kweli.

Prove to me that God is fictitious? Unazunguka tu, halafu unadai umeweka jibu. Show me how is God fictitious? Is he a John Doe? Prove to me that John Doe does not exist? I need tangible, airtight, verifiables proofs that are impeccables?

Ndio maana nilikuuliza, hivi wewe ulisha wahi file a lawsuit in Court?

Ona sasa, unataka ni prove John Doe does not exist, whats next, utataka ni prove Santa Claus does not exist?

 

[Cynic]

The fact that the word "God" has a meaning, does not mean god exist.

In the Star Trek series there is a tribe of people called "Kilingons", mention "Klingon" to any person who is familiar with Star Trek and he will understand, apparently, Klingon has a meaning. they even have an artificially engineered language.

But do these Klingon actually exist? no, they are fictitious.

Similarly, there are comics and movies about Super Man, Bat Man, Spider Man etc. Any avid comic reader, or the average movie goer, will be familiar with these, these names have a meaning.But does that mean Super Man exist somewhere? No, they are fictitious characters.

God is similarly fictitious. If you can't understand that, this will be more evidence that god (The Judeo-Christian one) does not exist, because an all powerful and compassionate god cannot create a human being that dumb.

How many times have we seen these arguments from non theists who defy their own reasoning to argue that they are descendants from apes??

 

[Darwin]

darwin amekushinda sasa unasoma kitabu!!!!!

Kama nilivyosema mwanzo

Aya nimeziweka makusudi.

Kwanini niliziweka makusudi

Kwasababu Iko mistari kwenye bible iko awful,
Au utauliza kwanini iliandikwa wakati huo na waumini wa sasa wanafanya vingine?
1. Ten commandments kuna mstari unaosema usiabudu sanamu au mungu mwingine .
Swali kwako max kwanini wakatoliki wanaweka sanamu?

2.Iko mistari inayosema wanawake hawana chakusema mbele ya wanaume
Max swali la pili kwanini sasa kuna mapadre wakike.


3.Iko mistari kuhusu mashoga

Max swali la tatu kwanini sasa kuna mapadre mashoga na kanisa sasa linaruhusu ndoa za mashoga?


4. Munasema Mungu ni perfect.
Swali la nne Max, Agano la kale na Agano jipya

Sheria alizoweka kwenye agano la kale ni tofauti na za kwenye Agano jipya.

Nani alizibadili?


5.Je mababu zetu wa hapo mwanzo hawatauona uzima wa milele kwasababu hawakumfuata Yesu au muhamadi?


Nina maswali kibao tu ila nataka haya matano tu uyajibu moja baada ya moja.

 

[MaxShimba]

1. Ten commandments kuna mstari unaosema usiabudu sanamu au mungu mwingine .
Swali kwako max kwanini wakatoliki wanaweka sanamu? -darwin

Sasa inaonekana umekuwa kidogo.

First you must understand that I am not a Catholic, but I will post an answer according to Roman Catholic belief as follows:

God forbade the worship of statues, but he did not forbid the religious use of statues. Instead, he actually commanded their use in religious contexts! Hiyo ni statement ya Bernadeane Carr, STL, Censor Librorum, August 10, 2004

That is what Roman Catholic believe. Nahii ni verse wanayo tumia kusaidia imani yao:
Ezekiel 41:17–18 describes graven (carved) images in the idealized temple he was shown in a vision, for he writes, "On the walls round about in the inner room and [on] the nave were carved likenesses of cherubim."

 

[MaxShimba]

Kama nilivyosema mwanzo

2.Iko mistari inayosema wanawake hawana chakusema mbele ya wanaume
Max swali la pili kwanini sasa kuna mapadre wakike.

Nina maswali kibao tu ila nataka haya matano tu uyajibu moja baada ya moja.

darwin, when you behave like this it makes me happy kuwa ninazungumza na mtu mwenye hekma.

Very good question. I like it. Now listen to the word of God:

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law" (1 Corinthians 14:34).
"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" (1 Timothy 2:11-12).

In these verses, Paul cannot be addressing women who were in the ministry, but rather those in the congregation who were out of order. How do we know this? We have many such proofs, many from Paul himself. Here is a partial list of women who were all in influential positions of leadership in the early church.

Pheobe (Romans 16:1-2): This woman was a deaconess of the church in Cenchrea, who was beloved of Paul and many other Christians for the help she gave to them. She filled an important position of leadership. It would be a difficult stretch of the imagination to say that this woman fulfilled her duties without ever speaking in the church!

Priscilla (Acts 18:26): Priscilla and her husband Aquila are often mentioned with great respect by Paul. Together they were pastors of a church in Ephesus, and were responsible for teaching the full gospel to Apollos. We are informed that they both taught Apollos, and pastored the church together. In fact, Priscilla is sometimes listed ahead of Aquila when their names come up. This has led some to speculate that of the two, she was the primary teacher and her husband oversaw the ministry. At any rate, we see here a woman in a very prominent position of teaching and pastoring. (Other references to Priscilla and Aquila are Acts 18:2, 18; Romans 16:3, and I Corinthians 16:19).

Euodia and Syntyche (Philippians 4:2-3): Here we see reference to two women who were "true yokefellow" and who labored with Paul in the advancement of the gospel.

Junia (Romans 16:7): In this verse we see Paul sending greetings to Andronicus and Junia, his "fellow-prisoners" who are of note among the apostles. Junia is a woman's name. In some modern translations, an "s" has been added (Junias) because the translators were so sure a woman could not be an apostle, that they assumed a copyist has accidentally dropped the "s." However the proper male ending would have been "ius," not "ias." No church commentator earlier than the Middle Ages questioned that Junia was both a woman and an apostle.

Hii ni Argument:
1 Corinthians 11:5, "But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven."

Henceforth, if Paul believed that all women should never teach or speak in church, why does he commend many women who did just that?

Hebu tuangali kitabu cha Acts of Apostles kinasemaje.
Acts 2:17-21, "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will show wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

The above is what I Max Shimba, believe and follow.

In His Sevice,

Max Shimba, A Bondservant of Jesus Christ, the coming King of kings and Lord of Lords.

 

[MNDEE]

Plato inaonekana anakuumiza kichwa wewe mwenyewe, umeshindwa kujuwa nini nilikuwa nasema na swali langu linahusu nini.

Kaazi kweli kweli,

Mkuu it is about time uachane na hii thread unaweza kukwazika bure!

 

[MaxShimba]

Mkuu it is about time uachane na hii thread unaweza kukwazika bure!

Thanks Mndee.

 

[MaxShimba]

3.Iko mistari kuhusu mashoga

Max swali la tatu kwanini sasa kuna mapadre mashoga na kanisa sasa linaruhusu ndoa za mashoga?


Nina maswali kibao tu ila nataka haya matano tu uyajibu moja baada ya moja.

I don't know which church are you talking about, but listen to the word of God once again and see what God is talking in re of such:

The Bible's condemnation of homosexuality is as clear and plain as the Bible's condemnation of murder, adultery, premarital sex, kidnapping, lying and idolatry, etc etc.

So, for a certain church or monk practicing/allowing what God is against, is sin before the Creator and can no be exempted and/or execused, ad infinitum.

 

[Bluray]

Huyu MaxShimba kashindwa kujibu

1. If god is all powerful and all loving, why is there suffering and evil in this world?
If he can stop and does not, then he is not all loving.
If he wants to stop evil but cannot then he is not all powerful

2.If god is all knowing, and he knew our lives from start to finish before we were even born, and what he knew then was set in stone, and we cannot change what he knew because that would be violating gods vision, then do we really have free will? How can human freewill and gods perfect knowledge be reconciled?

3.Can god make a stone so heavy that even himself cannot carry?

Jibu maswali hayo, acha longolongo nyiiiingi.

 

[MaxShimba]

Kama nilivyosema mwanzo

Aya nimeziweka makusudi.

4. Munasema Mungu ni perfect.
Swali la nne Max, Agano la kale na Agano jipya

Sheria alizoweka kwenye agano la kale ni tofauti na za kwenye Agano jipya.

Nani alizibadili?

Nina maswali kibao tu ila nataka haya matano tu uyajibu moja baada ya moja.

God SENT His Son to make possible a new power in the hearts of men, a power to enable him to fulfil the righteousness of the law.

Romans 8:3,4, "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

 

[MaxShimba]

Kama nilivyosema mwanzo

5.Je mababu zetu wa hapo mwanzo hawatauona uzima wa milele kwasababu hawakumfuata Yesu au muhamadi?


Nina maswali kibao tu ila nataka haya matano tu uyajibu moja baada ya moja.

When Jesus died at the cross, he went to preach the Gospel for those three days.

So, they got the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

 

[Augustine Moshi]

1. If god is all powerful and all loving, why is there suffering and evil in this world?

God permits evil so as to bring a greater good out of it. The gretest evil that occurred in the world was when creatures crucified the Creator. Yet, out of that evil came our salvation, which is the greatest good ever.

2.If god is all knowing, and he knew our lives from start to finish before we were even born, and what he knew then was set in stone, and we cannot change what he knew because that would be violating gods vision, then do we really have free will? How can human freewill and gods perfect knowledge be reconciled?

God lives outside of time. He knew, from eternity, all that we would freely choose to do. This perfect knowledge of His does not make us do what we do. It does not clash with our freewill in any way.

3.Can god make a stone so heavy that even himself cannot carry?

This is a silly question. It is like saying "the statement on that paper is false". If it is false than it is true, and if it is true then it is false.