The reason Gaddafi was ousted..he intended to withdraw all of the Libyan oil billions from Europe

[AL SHARPTON]

Below, Nizar Mhani (Niz Ben-Essa) of the Free Generation Movement responds to common misconceptions relating to the Gaddafi regime.
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There are no electricity bills in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.Categorically untrue. Despite poor electricity infrastructure and poor coverage of electricity lines, even in the Capital, Libyan home owners pay monthly/quarterly (area dependant) electricity bills based on meter readings. Electricity is cut off in instances of unpaid bills. Reconnection upon payment is not instant. The electric infrastructure is weak and some areas of Libya do not have electricity available at all.
There is no interest on loans..
banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.
Categorically untrue. Banks all over Libya have been giving out loans for years and years. There is a percentage rate charge on all loans, which is comparable to an interest rate, but in the spirit of ‘islamic ethics' it is not called interest, it is called an ‘Administrative Expense' – Masareef Edareeya.
.A House is considered a human right in Libya ¬
Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi¹s father has died while he, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent.Gaddafi abused this human right as much as he did other basic rights. It is well known in Libya that political opponents and successful business men/women had their homes confiscated and handed over to regime members, usually rewards for Free Officers – Dubat A7rar. Many farms and homes and businesses were confiscated during three infamous phases of Libyas dictatorial history:1969 – The dreaded Green Revolution. Free Officers were rewarded land, homes, and farms that sometimes belonged to other people and the original owners were not compensated or asked if this was ok.Late 70's - The introduction of the law Albayt le Sakinehee – The Home Belongs to its Dwellers. As this law was passed overnight, thousands of homeowners instantly lost their homes, as tenants (those renting the homes) claimed ownership on account of being the ‘dwellers'. The law applied to homes, farms, shops, etc.90's - The introduction of Purification Committees (Lejnat al Tatheer). This committee ran by the widely know slogan, ‘Min ayna laka hada?' – "From where did you obtain this?", a form of ultra-socialism where people's possessions, including homes and businesses, were confiscated if seen to be ‘surplus to requirement' or contributing to a ‘monopoly'.Regarding Gaddafis ‘vow': While Gaddafi waited for ‘everyone in Libya' to be housed, he himself lived in a sprawling 6km square compound in the centre of the capital which was home to state of the art security and an underground network of rooms and ultramodern bunkers. He also had a vast and well known farm on Airport Road in Tripoli. This, just in the capital

All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$ 50,000 ) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.
This is a well known rumour and a common joke in Libya. Whilst it may have been passed as official legislation, I know of not a single family who has been given this grant. The backbreaking bureaucracy associated with such grants and loans make them more or less impossible to obtain.

.Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%.Education and Health Care – Free does not mean adequate. It is well known that Libya's standard of health care is nothing short of appalling. It is widely known that the majority of Libyans seeking medical care leave for neighbouring countries for treatment. Our Education system is no better. It is outdated, teachers are underpaid and under-trained and libraries are largely non-existent. The syllabus was constantly being revised and reviewed under direct instruction from the former regime e.g. banning English, changing Quranic verses, etc.It is commonly said that Libyans would be happy to forfeit their ‘free health care' and pay for a National Health Service if it was up to the required standard.

Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and Livestock to kick- start their farms all for free.This has never happened, in addition to this many farms and homes have been confiscated by the government to build railroads, The Great Man Made River and civil roads.The owners of the land were only compensated if there was a covered structure on the land as the Gaddafi regime legally owned any land and the people were only allowed to build on it. When there was compensation offered it was nowhere near the actual value of the property and many waited years to receive anything if at all. This system was also rife with co Less..

I quite appreciate the points you have raised. Based on what you have posted, it seems that Libya under Col. Gadhaffi is still an enigma to all of us

 

[Pendael6410]

I quite appreciate the points you have raised. Based on what you have posted, it seems that Libya under Col. Gadhaffi is still an enigma to all of us

Definitely Sir

 

[kweyamba_dave]

Definitely Sir

Can mhani be a reliable source for the whole libya? Who knows maybe he was doing a job assigned by the France or Americans.do you think such kind of thing is impossible? Unawaona rebels wa Congo,Sudan,Mali,CAR be honesty wanafanana na wale vijana wa libya? Well dressed,food was not a problem,most of them educated doesn't a bell ring in your head? Huoni ukweli umefichwa? Back to reality how many Libyans supported gaddafi.je ni kweli libya ina elimu mbovu kama maneno ya mhani? Wapo walibya waliosoma abroad ushuhuda uliwahi kutolewa humu.waliishi kama alivyosema mhani? Nadhani ni thread hiihii most of them said watanzania walikuwa wanapewa 500 us dollars per month wakati Libyans wanapewa 3000 us dollars

Believe me propaganda still exist in the dictionaries.

 

[Bufa]

Can mhani be a reliable source for the whole libya? Who knows maybe he was doing a job assigned by the France or Americans.do you think such kind of thing is impossible? Unawaona rebels wa Congo,Sudan,Mali,CAR be honesty wanafanana na wale vijana wa libya? Well dressed,food was not a problem,most of them educated doesn't a bell ring in your head? Huoni ukweli umefichwa? Back to reality how many Libyans supported gaddafi.je ni kweli libya ina elimu mbovu kama maneno ya mhani? Wapo walibya waliosoma abroad ushuhuda uliwahi kutolewa humu.waliishi kama alivyosema mhani? Nadhani ni thread hiihii most of them said watanzania walikuwa wanapewa 500 us dollars per month wakati Libyans wanapewa 3000 us dollars

Believe me propaganda still exist in the dictionaries.

Well said propaganda still exist in dictionary; story nyingi za makuu ya Gaddafi Libya ni za kusadikika tu na propaganda tena nje ya Libya, waliofaidi matunda ya Gaddafi ni watu wake wa karibu aliowapa madaraka kila leo

Tumia akili kidogo tu hakuna mtu mwenye akili timamu angeweza kumshutumu Gaddafi kama hizo propaganda za kila kitu ni bure in Libya zingekuwa kweli

 

[Bufa]

Below, Nizar Mhani (Niz Ben-Essa) of the Free Generation Movement responds to common misconceptions relating to the Gaddafi regime.
Follow FGMovement on Facebook, and FGMovement on Twitter.
There are no electricity bills in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.Categorically untrue. Despite poor electricity infrastructure and poor coverage of electricity lines, even in the Capital, Libyan home owners pay monthly/quarterly (area dependant) electricity bills based on meter readings. Electricity is cut off in instances of unpaid bills. Reconnection upon payment is not instant. The electric infrastructure is weak and some areas of Libya do not have electricity available at all.
There is no interest on loans..
banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.
Categorically untrue. Banks all over Libya have been giving out loans for years and years. There is a percentage rate charge on all loans, which is comparable to an interest rate, but in the spirit of ‘islamic ethics’ it is not called interest, it is called an ‘Administrative Expense’ – Masareef Edareeya.
.A House is considered a human right in Libya ¬
Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi¹s father has died while he, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent.Gaddafi abused this human right as much as he did other basic rights. It is well known in Libya that political opponents and successful business men/women had their homes confiscated and handed over to regime members, usually rewards for Free Officers – Dubat A7rar. Many farms and homes and businesses were confiscated during three infamous phases of Libyas dictatorial history:1969 – The dreaded Green Revolution. Free Officers were rewarded land, homes, and farms that sometimes belonged to other people and the original owners were not compensated or asked if this was ok.Late 70’s - The introduction of the law Albayt le Sakinehee – The Home Belongs to its Dwellers. As this law was passed overnight, thousands of homeowners instantly lost their homes, as tenants (those renting the homes) claimed ownership on account of being the ‘dwellers’. The law applied to homes, farms, shops, etc.90’s - The introduction of Purification Committees (Lejnat al Tatheer). This committee ran by the widely know slogan, ‘Min ayna laka hada?’ – “From where did you obtain this?”, a form of ultra-socialism where people’s possessions, including homes and businesses, were confiscated if seen to be ‘surplus to requirement’ or contributing to a ‘monopoly’.Regarding Gaddafis ‘vow’: While Gaddafi waited for ‘everyone in Libya’ to be housed, he himself lived in a sprawling 6km square compound in the centre of the capital which was home to state of the art security and an underground network of rooms and ultramodern bunkers. He also had a vast and well known farm on Airport Road in Tripoli. This, just in the capital

All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$ 50,000 ) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.
This is a well known rumour and a common joke in Libya. Whilst it may have been passed as official legislation, I know of not a single family who has been given this grant. The backbreaking bureaucracy associated with such grants and loans make them more or less impossible to obtain.

.Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%.Education and Health Care – Free does not mean adequate. It is well known that Libya’s standard of health care is nothing short of appalling. It is widely known that the majority of Libyans seeking medical care leave for neighbouring countries for treatment. Our Education system is no better. It is outdated, teachers are underpaid and under-trained and libraries are largely non-existent. The syllabus was constantly being revised and reviewed under direct instruction from the former regime e.g. banning English, changing Quranic verses, etc.It is commonly said that Libyans would be happy to forfeit their ‘free health care’ and pay for a National Health Service if it was up to the required standard.

Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and Livestock to kick- start their farms all for free.This has never happened, in addition to this many farms and homes have been confiscated by the government to build railroads, The Great Man Made River and civil roads.The owners of the land were only compensated if there was a covered structure on the land as the Gaddafi regime legally owned any land and the people were only allowed to build on it. When there was compensation offered it was nowhere near the actual value of the property and many waited years to receive anything if at all. This system was also rife with co Less..

Mkuu bora umeleta hii habari hapa maana watu bila hata kufikiri wanaamini kila kitu kilikuwa bure in Libya totally insane to have such thoughts; Gaddafi alikua mwema kwa watu wake tu basically familia yake ndo aliwapa kila kitu ila zingine zote ni story kama story za abunuasi

 

[kweyamba_dave]

Well said propaganda still exist in dictionary; story nyingi za makuu ya Gaddafi Libya ni za kusadikika tu na propaganda tena nje ya Libya, waliofaidi matunda ya Gaddafi ni watu wake wa karibu aliowapa madaraka kila leo

Tumia akili kidogo tu hakuna mtu mwenye akili timamu angeweza kumshutumu Gaddafi kama hizo propaganda za kila kitu ni bure in Libya zingekuwa kweli

tunafahamu kuwa libya ilikuwa nchi maskini zaidi duniani mwaka 1951 tu hapo.yupo kiongozi yupi aliyefanikiwa kufanya transformation ya aina hii? niliwahi kusema walibya hawakusema tunataka maji,walisema demokrasia ichukue mkondo wake.42 years were far enough for them to tolerate ila si kwa kuwa gaddafi hakufanya yaliyosemwa.

hayupo rais aliyehudumu nchi yake kwa mafanikio kama gaddafi kwa Africa.tatizo lake ni lilelile alilokuwa nalo nyerere,karume,nkurumah na wengine wengi walioleta uhuru kwa nchi zao.kama si migogoro na WB&IMF sidhani kama nyerere angeng'atuka,karume alitangaza uchaguzi ni baada ya miaka 50 very sad aliuwawa kabla haijatimia.kwame aliona juu ya ukoloni mpya mapema sana akaziba kila mwanya wakuuukaribisha wakampindua kwa msaada wa wamarekani.

gaddafi aliona akitoka madarakani kitatokea kinachotokea sasa yuko wapi zidan? katolewa.sababu? mimi siijui.viongozi hawa wote wamepewa majukumu na wamagharibi na hicho ndicho anachopinga mzee mugabe.chama cha siasa cha Tanzania kifadhiliwe na uingereza huo ni wizi wa macho kabisa.

wazungu wamepotosha mengi juu ya gaddafi.kwani divide and rule tumeisahau?

 

[AL SHARPTON]

Mkuu bora umeleta hii habari hapa maana watu bila hata kufikiri wanaamini kila kitu kilikuwa bure in Libya totally insane to have such thoughts; Gaddafi alikua mwema kwa watu wake tu basically familia yake ndo aliwapa kila kitu ila zingine zote ni story kama story za abunuasi

Kila kitu ilikuwa ni bure?

 

[AL SHARPTON]

Wanaoishi huko watatuelimisha

 

[Herbalist Dr MziziMkavu]

Libya & QADDAFI ...FACTS THAT CANT BE DENIED

1. There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.

2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.

3. Home considered a human right in Libya – Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has
died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent.

4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$ 50,000 ) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.

5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%.

6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick- start their farms – all for free.

7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US $2, 300/mth accommodation and car allowance.

8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price.

9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0. 14 per liter.

10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally.

11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until
employment is found.

12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.

13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US $5 ,000

14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15

15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree


16. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.

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[donniebrasco]

What do you think of when you hear the name Colonel Gaddafi? Tyrant? Dictator? Terrorist? Well, a national citizen of Libya may disagree but we want you to decide.

For 41 years until his demise in October 2011, Muammar Gaddafi did some truly amazing things for his country and repeatedly tried to unite and empower the whole of Africa.

So despite what you've heard on the radio, seen in the media or on the TV, Gaddafi did some powerful things that are not characteristic of a "vicious dictator" as portrayed by the western media.

Here are ten things Gaddafi did for Libya that you may not know about…

1. In Libya a home is considered a natural human right

In Gaddafi's Green Book it states: "The house is a basic need of both the individual and the family, therefore it should not be owned by others". Gaddafi's Green Book is the formal leader's political philosophy, it was first published in 1975 and was intended reading for all Libyans even being included in the national curriculum.

2. Education and medical treatment were all free

Under Gaddafi, Libya could boast one of the best healthcare services in the Middle East and Africa. Also if a Libyan citizen could not access the desired educational course or correct medical treatment in Libya they were funded to go abroad.

3. Gaddafi carried out the world's largest irrigation project

The largest irrigation system in the world also known as the great manmade river was designed to make water readily available to all Libyan's across the entire country. It was funded by the Gaddafi government and it said that Gaddafi himself called it "the eighth wonder of the world".



4. It was free to start a farming business
If any Libyan wanted to start a farm they were given a house, farm land and live stock and seeds all free of charge.

5. A bursary was given to mothers with newborn babies
When a Libyan woman gave birth she was given 5000 (US dollars) for herself and the child.

6. Electricity was free
Electricity was free in Libya meaning absolutely no electric bills!

7. Cheap petrol
During Gaddafi's reign the price of petrol in Libya was as low as 0.14 (US dollars) per litre.

8. Gaddafi raised the level of education
Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans were literate. This figure was brought up to 87% with 25% earning university degrees.

9. Libya had It's own state bank
Libya had its own State bank, which provided loans to citizens at zero percent interest by law and they had no external debt.

10. The gold dinar
Before the fall of Tripoli and his untimely demise, Gaddafi was trying to introduce a single African currency linked to gold. Following in the foot steps of the late great pioneer Marcus Garvey who first coined the term "United States of Africa". Gaddafi wanted to introduce and only trade in the African gold Dinar – a move which would have thrown the world economy into chaos.

The Dinar was widely opposed by the ‘elite' of today's society and who could blame them. African nations would have finally had the power to bring itself out of debt and poverty and only trade in this precious commodity.

They would have been able to finally say ‘no' to external exploitation and charge whatever they felt suitable for precious resources. It has been said that the gold Dinar was the real reason for the NATO led rebellion, in a bid to oust the outspoken leader.

So, was Muammar Gaddafi a Terrorist ?

Few can answer this question fairly, but if anyone can, it's a Libyan citizen who has lived under his reign? Whatever the case, it seems rather apparent that he did some positive things for his country despite the infamous notoriety surrounding his name. And that's something you should try to remember when judging in future.

This quirky video documentary spells out an interesting, if rather different, story from the one we think we know.

 

[Echolima]

Let him REST IN HELL with his friend IDD AMIN DADA.

 

[MZAWA JF]

he supported IDDI AMIN in kagera war. he sent a group of soldiers who could have killed you with your family had they succeed their mission. as a tanzanian i say may his soul suffer in hell?

 

[Tatemahunda]

you can say whatever you want because :
1.is your light to do that.
2.you are not ready to change..
this is advice to you,............find the real story on sources of the war against eid amin.. nakumbuka nilishapata story kutoka kwa mzee mmoja aliyekua anaishi Uganda maeneo ya mpakani na kagera... aliielezea hii vita vizuri mno.... nawashauri msibebe kila mnachoambiwa Bali panapo uwezekano fanyeni research ya kina...
akili ya kupewa changanya na yakwako....

 

[elmagnifico]

gaddaf alikuwa comrade, kwangu mimi ninamuona kama kiongozi aliyekuwa na dira kwa nchi yake

 

[jiwe la maji]

waislam tusiendelee kumlilia gadafi kama sisi ngozi nyeusi ndio tunauchungu nae sana kuliko waarabu wenzake waliomua msikalie kulaumu nato hao nato mbona hawaendi iran si wanaona kule hakuna kundi kubwa linalopinga serikali kama ilivyokua libya

 

[Granta]

waislam tusiendelee kumlilia gadafi kama sisi ngozi nyeusi ndio tunauchungu nae sana kuliko waarabu wenzake waliomua msikalie kulaumu nato hao nato mbona hawaendi iran si wanaona kule hakuna kundi kubwa linalopinga serikali kama ilivyokua libya

Wasimlilie gadafi bali wamlilie mamako au sio

 

[MZAWA JF]

kwa hyo gadafi na mama yako nani ana thamani kubwa? hili ni tusi kubwa sana kwa mama zetu. kama mama yako yupo hai nenda ukamwombe msamaha mkuu. naamini umeteleza bahati mbaya

 

[kukumega]

waislam tusiendelee kumlilia gadafi kama sisi ngozi nyeusi ndio tunauchungu nae sana kuliko waarabu wenzake waliomua msikalie kulaumu nato hao nato mbona hawaendi iran si wanaona kule hakuna kundi kubwa linalopinga serikali kama ilivyokua libya

Kwanini unataja uislam katika post hii? Kwani huu Uzi ni was kidini?

 

[Abunwasi]

The recent Hillary Clinton email leaks have opened a can of worms everywhere including in Africa. Wikileaks released an unclassified U.S. Department of State document emailed to Clinton, dated April 2, 2011. Sidney Blumenthal, the sender of the email confirmed what the world already suspected. Qaddafi was not killed for humanitarian purposes but for the oil and for money. His ideas of an African gold-backed currency were his major undoing.

In April 2011, then President of the World Bank, Robert Bruce Zoellick spoke at a panel discussion about how he hoped the World Bank would have some sort of role in the reconstruction of Libya along with other countries.

“Reconstruction now means (Ivory Coast), it now means Southern Sudan, it means Liberia, it means Sri Lanka, I hope it will mean Libya,” he said.

To the ordinary person, this was the World Bank hoping to come in to help a failing state but to Economist John Perkins,, the World Bank was not to be considered as fulfilling its supposed mandate. It was in actual fact a U.S. bank together with its sibling, the IMF. The United States controls about 16% of the World Bank while the second largest member, Japan has a paltry 7%. The United States again has around 17% voting rights in the International Monetary Fund. His point was that these institutions were and still are extensions of the Western foreign policy.

“So, we might ask ourselves: What happens when a “rogue” country threatens to bring the banking system that benefits the corporatocracy to its knees?” he asked later saying the Western empire has a standing army (NATO) to violently protect its position.

Libya was the “rogue” nation but the question is: Just what did Gaddafi have in mind?

According to the IMF, Libya’s Central Bank is 100% state owned and in 2011, it was estimated to have 144 tons of gold in its vaults. Muammar Gaddafi’s plan was to introduce a gold-backed currency which he hoped African and Muslim nations would adopt. He felt it could rival the euro and the dollar, and rightly so too.

Sidney Blumenthal, in his email to Hillary Clinton confirmed, “Qaddafi's government holds 143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver. During late March, 2011 these stocks were moved to SABHA (south west in the direction of the Libyan border with Niger and Chad); taken from the vaults of the Libyan Central Bank in Tripoli.”

He went on to say the gold and silver was valued at $7 billion and was one of the reasons Nicolas Sarkozy embarked on a French attack of Libya.

“Sarkozy's plans are driven by the following issues:

a. A desire to gain a greater share of Libya oil production,
b. Increase French influence in North Africa,
c. Improve his internal political situation in France,
d. Provide the French military with an opportunity to reassert its position in the world,
e. Address the concern of his advisors over Qaddafi's long term plans to supplant France as the dominant power in, Francophone Africa,” wrote Blumenthal.
If Qaddafi had succeeded, the United States of America and Europe would have been forced to buy oil and minerals in the gold backed currency thus tipping the scales. This was a horror the West dared not experience. The situation would have been a more lethal re-enactment of Saddam Hussein’s currency wars when he supported the new Euro currency at the expense of the United States Dollar. At this point, the U.S. was highly insecure about the effects of the new currency to its economy. Hussein’s decision to sell oil in the then new currency was a blow to the U.S. worsened by the proclamation that the dollar was the “currency of the enemy”. Currency wars have therefore been a fact of history with the Hussein situation being a peculiar intra-Western conflict that culminated in the Middle East instability promulgated by U.S. interventionist policies. That Qaddafi would be killed for planning to introduce an African currency to the fray is not surprising but that does not make it acceptable.

The leaked Clinton email has far-reaching implications on the fluid state of post-colonial relations with the West. If anything, it is an eye-opener. Where Africa seeks to build an independent economic structure, the West is seen to try and derail those plans so as to retain its primacy in world affairs.

With regard to the creation of a new currency, Ministry of Peace Founder, Dr James Thring said, “It’s one of those things that you have to plan almost in secret, because as soon as you say you’re going to change over from the dollar to something else, you’re going to be targeted.”

And Qaddafi was targeted. He may not have been the most democratic leader in the world but Libyan citizens had arguably the best way of life in Africa. His plan of action (without the human rights violations) should be a blueprint for African development.


Image Credit: Time Magazine

 

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