The Atheists Paradox

Ishmael said:
Wapi hapo Yesu anaomba msaada? Hivi hata kusona sentensi ya kawaida inakushinda ndugu yangu. Jesus as 100% man was not asking for a help but asking a question?



Nope, you failed to comprehend a simple sentence.

Uongo wa kwanda huoooooooooooooo, "Translate the meaning of =forsaken="?



Hata mimi siajwao ona Yesu akiabudu Mungu. Niletee aya niione.

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Una macho?
Luke 6:12 One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.
Matthew 26:39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."


Luke 5:16 But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed.
Matthew 14:23 After he had dismissed them, he went up on a mountainside by himself to pray. Later that night, he was there alone,
 
Nonda said:
Una macho?
Luke 6:12 One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.
Matthew 26:39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."


Luke 5:16 But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed.
Matthew 14:23 After he had dismissed them, he went up on a mountainside by himself to pray. Later that night, he was there alone,
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If Jesus is God, why did he pray to the Father in John 17?

Jesus prayed to the Father because as a man, under the Law (Gal. 4:4), he needed to pray to the Father. The Bible teaches that he was both God and man (Col. 2:9; John 8:58 with Ex. 3:14). Also, Jesus has two natures. Therefore, we will see two types of scripture concerning Jesus: those that seem to focus on His divine-side, and those that seem to focus on His human-side. The Jehovah's Witnesses are simply ignoring, or changing, the divine-side scriptures and concentrating on those that describe His human-side. See Hypostatic Union for information on the two natures of Jesus.

Also, God is a Trinity which means that the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are all divine, but are distinct persons, not three gods. The person of the Son prayed to the person of the Father. This makes sense since Jesus was fully divine and fully human at the same time.

https://www.facebook.com/max.shimbaministries/posts/1418180565067047
 
Ishmael said:
Wapi hapo Yesu anaomba msaada? Hivi hata kusona sentensi ya kawaida inakushinda ndugu yangu. Jesus as 100% man was not asking for a help but asking a question?

Nope, you failed to comprehend a simple sentence.

Uongo wa kwanda huoooooooooooooo, "Translate the meaning of =forsaken="?



Hata mimi siajwao ona Yesu akiabudu Mungu. Niletee aya niione.

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Luke 6:12 One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.

Fanya upaulo wako sasa au kuja na ule mfano wako wa Raisi Obama kumwita Raisi Kikwete.

Ishmael hapo tinaomba utitafsirie hiyo ayat kwa lugha ya kiswahili, sisi hatufahamu kidhungu.
 
Ishmael said:

If Jesus is God, why did he pray to the Father in John 17?

Jesus prayed to the Father because as a man, under the Law (Gal. 4:4), he needed to pray to the Father. The Bible teaches that he was both God and man (Col. 2:9; John 8:58 with Ex. 3:14). Also, Jesus has two natures. Therefore, we will see two types of scripture concerning Jesus: those that seem to focus on His divine-side, and those that seem to focus on His human-side. The Jehovah's Witnesses are simply ignoring, or changing, the divine-side scriptures and concentrating on those that describe His human-side. See Hypostatic Union for information on the two natures of Jesus.

Also, God is a Trinity which means that the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are all divine, but are distinct persons, not three gods. The person of the Son prayed to the person of the Father. This makes sense since Jesus was fully divine and fully human at the same time.

https://www.facebook.com/max.shimbaministries/posts/1418180565067047
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Wewe mapepo yanakusumbua sana.

Umeshakiri kuwa Jesus is a man ndio he needed to pray na kumwabudu Mungu wa Kweli.

Kwa hiyo Dugu tafuta uzushi mwingine, hapa umeshakubali kuwa Yesu si Mungu.

Kama Yesu anasali na kumwomba Mungu, teyari amejidhihirisha kuwa yeye si Mungu. Au ukubali kuwa kuna miungu mingi.
Yesu anasali na kumwomba Mungu. Kuna ugumu kuelewa hapo?

Mimi nakubaliana na kauli yako kuwa Yesu is 100% man. Ili kuondoa shaka weka na 10%. Yesu ni 110% man. and 0% God.
 
Nonda said:
Kwa hiyo Yesu alikuwa anaomba?

Alikuwa anaomba nini?

Ishmael

Tafadhali mwanawane, Titafsirie hilo swali alilouliza Yesu. Na alikuwa anamuuliza nani?
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Imani ya kuamini tu pasipokuuliza imemuathiri kisaikolojia kabisa! Hatakuelewa maana anajitoa ufahamu :D
 
Ishmael said:
Usijaribu kukimbia weye. Allah anapotumia NA TUKAMUUMBA, huyo Allah alikuwa na nani?
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Mwanzo 1:26

Mungu akasema, Na tumfanye mtu kwa mfano wetu, kwa sura yetu;-

UNAULIZA Swali lililomo kwenye bibilia yako?
Kwani hapo mungu wa Bibilia walikuwa na Sura ngapi mpk aseme SURA YETU? ?
 
Hivi mtanijibu vipi maswali haya Atehists !

1. Maisha au kuishi ni nini ?

2. Je ni yapi malengo ya sisi kushi au kuwepo duniani ?

3. Kwanini tunakufa ?
 
1. Kuishi ni pale tu unapokuwa hai
2. Kwa kuwa tunaambiwa Mungu ndie aliyetuumba yeye anasema ametuumba ili tumuabudu, tuzaane na mwisho tutarudi kwake
3. Tumewekewa ukomo duniani tunatoka kutoka sehemu moja kwenda kwengine kupitia kifo
 
Huwaga bado siamini kama hii Dunia ina hao watu wanaojiita Atheists, huwa naamni kuna wapagani tuu,

Ingawa utafiti wangu SI RASMI ila naamini kwamba, binadamu anaye "Jiaminisha" kwamba haamini uwepo wa MUNGU ni yule ambaye hajafikia tamati /ukomo au kilele cha mwisho wa uwezo wake kama binadamu

Wazungu huwa wanatumia, "No way out" Na "Point of no return" kuashiria ukomo wa uwezo wa ki binadamu, hapo huwa naamini kuna fikra huja kichwani kwamba kuna mtu/kiumbe/roho au uwezo somewhere anaweza kukutoa hapo ulipo kukuonesha point of return/way out (Wewe kama wewe)

I believe hiyo fikra ni kwa kila binadamu, regardless umewahi kumskia MUNGU au laa!!
"Anayejiamisha" Absence ya MUNGU, wengi wao huchanganywa na deliverance ya mafundisho ya dini, pale unapoanza ku reason:

Tufanye mfano mmoja: Waadzabe ni jamii ya watu ambao hawana fundisho la MUNGU mmoja (sina uhakika, nimetumia kigezo cha ustaarabu wao) na hawajawahi kusikia suala la MUNGU

Huyu huyu Mu adzabe, anapofanya jambo likafika ukomo wake, aidha yu karibu na kifo na anataka kuepuka, je Unadhani haamini kuna nguvu nje yake inayoweza kumtoa na balaa hilo? And am surely confirm GOD with my mock evidences, huyu mtu anaweza asiite MUNGU ila akawa na imani kwamba something somewhere can evacuate him

Hakuna "Self proclaimed-claimed atheist" Kwenye Historia ya Ulimwengu kama Steve Jobs, lakini alikiri uwepo wa MUNGU kwenye deathbed


kwa hiyo its a matter of dimension, upo katika hali gani ya kumjua MUNGU
 
Diwani said:
Huwaga bado siamini kama hii Dunia ina hao watu wanaojiita Atheists, huwa naamni kuna wapagani tuu,

Ingawa utafiti wangu SI RASMI ila naamini kwamba, binadamu anaye "Jiaminisha" kwamba haamini uwepo wa MUNGU ni yule ambaye hajafikia tamati /ukomo au kilele cha mwisho wa uwezo wake kama binadamu

Wazungu huwa wanatumia, "No way out" Na "Point of no return" kuashiria ukomo wa uwezo wa ki binadamu, hapo huwa naamini kuna fikra huja kichwani kwamba kuna mtu/kiumbe/roho au uwezo somewhere anaweza kukutoa hapo ulipo kukuonesha point of return/way out (Wewe kama wewe)

I believe hiyo fikra ni kwa kila binadamu, regardless umewahi kumskia MUNGU au laa!!
"Anayejiamisha" Absence ya MUNGU, wengi wao huchanganywa na deliverance ya mafundisho ya dini, pale unapoanza ku reason:

Tufanye mfano mmoja: Waadzabe ni jamii ya watu ambao hawana fundisho la MUNGU mmoja (sina uhakika, nimetumia kigezo cha ustaarabu wao) na hawajawahi kusikia suala la MUNGU

Huyu huyu Mu adzabe, anapofanya jambo likafika ukomo wake, aidha yu karibu na kifo na anataka kuepuka, je Unadhani haamini kuna nguvu nje yake inayoweza kumtoa na balaa hilo? And am surely confirm GOD with my mock evidences, huyu mtu anaweza asiite MUNGU ila akawa na imani kwamba something somewhere can evacuate him

Hakuna "Self proclaimed-claimed atheist" Kwenye Historia ya Ulimwengu kama Steve Jobs, lakini alikiri uwepo wa MUNGU kwenye deathbed


kwa hiyo its a matter of dimension, upo katika hali gani ya kumjua MUNGU
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hakuna mungu,kuna MUUMBA
binadamu kamtengeneza mungu kwa kumfanya kama an individual
o forget it,religions created god so that god can create them...sounds confusing huh?
 
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