Special thread: The Vatican secrets and treasures of the Holy City

[CAPO DELGADO]

Blah blah blah. Jumapili kama kawa na hauna cha kufanya.

Wewe utakuwa KANISA la Mashonga

 

[CAPO DELGADO]

 

[CAPO DELGADO]

UKUMBI WA PAPA kama Joka

 

[paqwa]

UKUMBI WA PAPA kama Joka

Unawwashwa sana. Uongo bila haya yani unakusaidia nini? Tufanye basi ni kweli. Kwani umelazimishwa kuwa mkristo mkatoliki? Mbona sisi wenyewe hatuna shida yani tuna amani. We usiehusika ndio unawashwawashwa sana? Ukumbi wenyewe huu hapo chini..
Mnatunga uongo kwa faida gani? Paul VI Audience Hall - Wikipedia

 

[CAPO DELGADO]

Unawwashwa sana. Uongo bila haya yani unakusaidia nini? Tufanye basi ni kweli. Kwani umelazimishwa kuwa mkristo mkatoliki? Mbona sisi wenyewe hatuna shida yani tuna amani. We usiehusika ndio unawashwawashwa sana? Ukumbi wenyewe huu hapo chini..
Mnatunga uongo kwa faida gani? Paul VI Audience Hall - Wikipedia

MZEE WA SIKU PAPA AKIPEWA HUKUMU.

DANIEL 7:9
Nikatazama hata viti vya enzi vikawekwa, na mmoja aliye mzee wa siku ameketi; mavazi yake yalikuwa meupe kama theluji, na nywele za kichwa chake kama sufu safi; kiti chake cha enzi kilikuwa miali ya moto, na gurudumu zake moto uwakao.
Mto kama wa moto ukatoka ukapita mbele zake; maelfu elfu wakamtumikia, na elfu kumi mara elfu kumi wakasimama mbele zake; hukumu ikawekwa, na vitabu vikafunuliwa.
Danieli 7:10

Hata akaja huyo mzee wa siku, nao watakatifu wake Aliye juu wakapewa hukumu; na majira yakawadia watakatifu waumiliki ufalme.
Danieli 7:22


MZEE WA SIKU NI MZEE ANAYERUHUSU USHOGA.

 

[CAPO DELGADO]

Ufunuo 18:4 “Kisha nikasikia sauti nyingine kutoka mbinguni, ikisema, Tokeni kwake, enyi watu wangu, msishiriki dhambi zake, wala msipokee mapigo yake. Kwa maana dhambi zake zimefika hata mbinguni, na Mungu amemkumbuka maovu yake…Kwa sababu hiyo mapigo yake yatakuja katika siku moja, mauti, na huzuni, na njaa, naye atateketezwa kabisa kwa moto. Kwa maana Bwana Mungu aliyemuhukumu ni mwenye nguvu.

JE anaezungumzwa hapa ni nani????????????..

ANAYEZUNGUMZIWA HAPA NI MZEE WA SIKU KIONGOZI WA KANISA LAKO. PAPA.
AKIPOKEA HUKUMU YA YESU KRISTO.

DANIEL 7:10.
Nikatazama hata viti vya enzi vikawekwa, na mmoja aliye mzee wa siku ameketi; mavazi yake yalikuwa meupe kama theluji, na nywele za kichwa chake kama sufu safi; kiti chake cha enzi kilikuwa miali ya moto, na gurudumu zake moto uwakao.

Mto kama wa moto ukatoka ukapita mbele zake; maelfu elfu wakamtumikia, na elfu kumi mara elfu kumi wakasimama mbele zake; hukumu ikawekwa, na vitabu vikafunuliwa.
Danieli 7:10

Danieli 7:9

Nikaona katika njozi za usiku, na tazama, mmoja aliye mfano wa mwanadamu akaja pamoja na mawingu ya mbingu akamkaribia huyo mzee wa siku, wakamleta karibu naye.
Danieli 7:13

hata akaja huyo mzee wa siku, nao watakatifu wake Aliye juu wakapewa hukumu; na majira yakawadia watakatifu waumiliki ufalme.
Danieli 7:22

ANAEZUNGUMZWA HAPA NI PAPA KIONGOZI WA KANISA ROMAN CATHOLIC

 

[CAPO DELGADO]

Watu hawa huniheshimu kwa midomo; Ila mioyo yao iko mbali nami.
Mathayo 15:8

9 Nao waniabudu bure, Wakifundisha mafundisho Yaliyo maagizo ya wanadamu.
Mathayo 15:9


MAAGIZO YA WANADAMU NI YAPI?????

Hakuna sehemu Biblia inaruhusu haya.


1. Ibada za Sanamu.

2 Bikra maria kuwaombea.

3. MATUMIZI ya Rozali.

4. Kunywa pombe na Kuvuta sigara.

6. KUBADIRI majora na nyakati.

7. Majibu nk

ENDELEA KUJIVUNIA SANA KUWA MKATOLIKI

 

[paqwa]

Watu hawa huniheshimu kwa midomo; Ila mioyo yao iko mbali nami.
Mathayo 15:8

9 Nao waniabudu bure, Wakifundisha mafundisho Yaliyo maagizo ya wanadamu.
Mathayo 15:9


MAAGIZO YA WANADAMU NI YAPI?????

Hakuna sehemu Biblia inaruhusu haya.


1. Ibada za Sanamu.

2 Bikra maria kuwaombea.

3. MATUMIZI ya Rozali.

4. Kunywa pombe na Kuvuta sigara.

6. KUBADIRI majora na nyakati.

7. Majibu nk

ENDELEA KUJIVUNIA SANA KUWA MKATOLIKI

Ndio najivunia sana tu.

 

[Smotor]

NIMEFUNDISHWA HIVI

4 Usimjibu mpumbavu sawasawa na upumbavu wake; Usije ukafanana naye.
Mithali 26:4

No. Mafundisho yako wewe ni ya kisabato,
Mafundisho ya chuki.

Dhehebu ama dini yeyote ambayo inaongelea dhehebu au dini nyingine katika Mafundisho yake bhasi ujue haijitoshelezi kimafundisho.

Hivyo ili kulinda amani na mikanganyiko, mambo haya ya dini ni upofu tu... Wala hamtoelewana mtabaki kukashifiana tu.

Japo binafsi siamini katika Mungu...
Mimi nimfuatiliaji mzuri wa mijadala hii ya kidini, asili na tamaduni mbalimbali.

Hivyo msikashifiane. Pangeni hoja kistaarabu kabsa. Pangueni hoja pia kistaarabu.
♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️

 

[CAPO DELGADO]

No. Mafundisho yako wewe ni ya kisabato,
Mafundisho ya chuki.

Dhehebu ama dini yeyote ambayo inaongelea dhehebu au dini nyingine katika Mafundisho yake bhasi ujue haijitoshelezi kimafundisho.

Hivyo ili kulinda amani na mikanganyiko, mambo haya ya dini ni upofu tu... Wala hamtoelewana mtabaki kukashifiana tu.

Japo binafsi siamini katika Mungu...
Mimi nimfuatiliaji mzuri wa mijadala hii ya kidini, asili na tamaduni mbalimbali.

Hivyo msikashifiane. Pangeni hoja kistaarabu kabsa. Pangueni hoja pia kistaarabu.
♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️♦️

KAMA HUMUAMINI MUNGU BASI.

HUMUAMINI MUNGU?!!!!!!!

YANI KABISA HUMUAMINI MUNGU .

DAHHHHHHHH...............


BIBLE INASEMA MPUMBAVU HUSEMA HAKUNA MUNGU.


KWA HIYO SIWEZI KUKUJIBU WEWE....

 

[Smotor]

KAMA HUMUAMINI MUNGU BASI.

HUMUAMINI MUNGU?!!!!!!!

YANI KABISA HUMUAMINI MUNGU .

DAHHHHHHHH...............


BIBLE INASEMA MPUMBAVU HUSEMA HAKUNA MUNGU.


KWA HIYO SIWEZI KUKUJIBU WEWE....

Mshenzi anaamini joka linaloongea

 

[Nantahulila]

Hapa nina maswali mawili naomba msaada, nifahamishwe.

1. Utukufu wa mji huu umetajwa kwenye kitabu gani au imekuwaje ukawa mji mtukufu/mtakatifu ?

2. Tunaambiwa ya kuwa Wakristo ni wafuasi wa Yesu, imekuaje makao makuu ya kundi hilo la Kikristo ni Italy na si kule kwenye asili ya yule wanae jinasibisha nae ?

Shukrani.

Lakini makao makuu ya wasabato yako marekani kama sikosei

 

[kibobori mahoro]

Umeandika kwa Wakristu Vatican Ni mji mtakatifu, nasahihisha kuwa sio Wakristu wote Ila Ni Wakatoliki tu.

 

[Nantahulila]

Hapana hizo siyo Hadithi, Qur'an ni jina la kitabu. Mara nyingi jina huwa halitafsiriwi lakini maana yake kwa Kiswahili ni "kisomo".

Isome Qur'an utaona raha sana, hakifanani na kitabu kingine cochote. Moja ya raha zake ni ujumbe unakufikia direct. Hakuna longolongo humo na hakina shaka.

Mashaka.ni mengi sana.Kiujumla.ni C&P ya biblia.Nani alimpa.Muhammad utume kama si Waraqah?

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Mashaka.ni mengi sana.Kiujumla.ni C&P ya biblia.Nani alimpa.Muhammad utume kama si Waraqah?

Weka ushahidi wa maandishi, hatutaki porojo zako. Soma:

39

---

Qur'an 33:40. Muhammad si baba wa yeyote katika wanaume wenu, bali ni Mtume wa Mwenyezi Mungu na Mwisho wa Manabii, na Mwenyezi Mungu ni Mjuzi wa kila kitu. 40

 

[Nantahulila]

Wala usiende huko, hapana shaka huko. Jisomee aya hiyo hiyo uliyoiweka sasa anzia aya ya 11, utaelewa tu ukipenda au usipende...

12. Na Suleiman tuliufanya upepo umtumikie. Safari yake ya asubuhi ni mwendo wa mwezi mmoja, na safari yake ya jioni ni mwendo wa mwezi mmoja. Na tukamyayushia chemchem ya shaba. Na katika majini walikuwako walio kuwa wakifanya kazi mbele yake kwa idhini ya Mola wake Mlezi. Na kila anaye jitenga na amri yetu katika wao, tunamwonjesha adhabu ya Moto unao waka. 12

13. Walikuwa wakimfanyia alipendalo, kama mihrabu, na masanamu, na madeste makubwa kama mahodhi, na masufuria makubwa yasiyo ondolewa mahala pake. Enyi watu wa Daudi! Fanyeni kazi kwa kushukuru. Ni wachache katika waja wangu wanao shukuru. 13

14. Na tulipo mhukumia kufa, hapana aliye wajuulisha kufa kwake ila mnyama wa ardhi aliye kula fimbo yake. Na alipo anguka majini walitambua lau kuwa wangeli jua ya ghaibu wasingeli kaa katika adhabu hiyo ya kufedhehesha. 14

---

Nna uhakika mpaka hapo umejiona ulivyo muongo na utajirekebisha kijana. Qur'an haina shaka ndani yake.

1 Kings 6
1
In the four hundred and eightieth [1] year after the Israelites had come out of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, the second month, he began to build the temple of the LORD.
2
The temple that King Solomon built for the LORD was sixty cubits long, twenty wide and thirty high. [2]
3
The portico at the front of the main hall of the temple extended the width of the temple, that is twenty cubits, [3] and projected ten cubits [4] from the front of the temple.
4
He made narrow clerestory windows in the temple.
5
Against the walls of the main hall and inner sanctuary he built a structure around the building, in which there were side rooms.
6
The lowest floor was five cubits [5] wide, the middle floor six cubits [6] and the third floor seven. [7] He made offset ledges around the outside of the temple so that nothing would be inserted into the temple walls.
7
In building the temple, only blocks dressed at the quarry were used, and no hammer, chisel or any other iron tool was heard at the temple site while it was being built.
8
The entrance to the lowest [8] floor was on the south side of the temple; a stairway led up to the middle level and from there to the third.
9
So he built the temple and completed it, roofing it with beams and cedar planks.
10
And he built the side rooms all along the temple. The height of each was five cubits, and they were attached to the temple by beams of cedar.
11
The word of the LORD came to Solomon:
12
"As for this temple you are building, if you follow my decrees, carry out my regulations and keep all my commands and obey them, I will fulfill through you the promise I gave to David your father.
13
And I will live among the Israelites and will not abandon my people Israel."
14
So Solomon built the temple and completed it.
15
He lined its interior walls with cedar boards, paneling them from the floor of the temple to the ceiling, and covered the floor of the temple with planks of pine.
16
He partitioned off twenty cubits [9] at the rear of the temple with cedar boards from floor to ceiling to form within the temple an inner sanctuary, the Most Holy Place.
17
The main hall in front of this room was forty cubits [10] long.
18
The inside of the temple was cedar, carved with gourds and open flowers. Everything was cedar; no stone was to be seen.
19
He prepared the inner sanctuary within the temple to set the ark of the covenant of the LORD there.
20
The inner sanctuary was twenty cubits long, twenty wide and twenty high. [11] He overlaid the inside with pure gold, and he also overlaid the altar of cedar.
21
Solomon covered the inside of the temple with pure gold, and he extended gold chains across the front of the inner sanctuary, which was overlaid with gold.
22
So he overlaid the whole interior with gold. He also overlaid with gold the altar that belonged to the inner sanctuary.
23
In the inner sanctuary he made a pair of cherubim of olive wood, each ten cubits [12] high.
24
One wing of the first cherub was five cubits long, and the other wing five cubits--ten cubits from wing tip to wing tip.
25
The second cherub also measured ten cubits, for the two cherubim were identical in size and shape.
26
The height of each cherub was ten cubits.
27
He placed the cherubim inside the innermost room of the temple, with their wings spread out. The wing of one cherub touched one wall, while the wing of the other touched the other wall, and their wings touched each other in the middle of the room.
28
He overlaid the cherubim with gold.
29
On the walls all around the temple, in both the inner and outer rooms, he carved cherubim, palm trees and open flowers.
30
He also covered the floors of both the inner and outer rooms of the temple with gold.
31
For the entrance of the inner sanctuary he made doors of olive wood with five-sided jambs.
32
And on the two olive wood doors he carved cherubim, palm trees and open flowers, and overlaid the cherubim and palm trees with beaten gold.
33
In the same way he made four-sided jambs of olive wood for the entrance to the main hall.
34
He also made two pine doors, each having two leaves that turned in sockets.
35
He carved cherubim, palm trees and open flowers on them and overlaid them with gold hammered evenly over the carvings.
36
And he built the inner courtyard of three courses of dressed stone and one course of trimmed cedar beams.
37
The foundation of the temple of the LORD was laid in the fourth year, in the month of Ziv.
38
In the eleventh year in the month of Bul, the eighth month, the temple was finished in all its details according to its specifications. He had spent seven years building it.
[1] Hebrew; Septuagint four hundred and fortieth
[2] That is, about 90 feet (about 27 meters) long and 30 feet (about 9 meters) wide and 45 feet (about 13.5 meters) high
[3] That is, about 30 feet (about 9 meters)
[3] That is, about 15 feet (about 4.5 meters)
[6] That is, about 7 1/2 feet (about 2.3 meters); also in verses 10 and 24
[6] That is, about 9 feet (about 2.7 meters)
[6] That is, about 10 1/2 feet (about 3.1 meters)
[8] Septuagint; Hebrew middle
[16] That is, about 30 feet (about 9 meters)
[17] That is, about 60 feet (about 18 meters)
[20] That is, about 30 feet (about 9 meters) long, wide and high
[23] That is, about 15 feet (about 4.5 meters)


Nimejaribu kufanya ulinganisho wa hizi story mbili nione nani kakopi kwa nani

 

[Nantahulila]

Unakwepa swali makusudi , Koran inasema Allah alituma majini yaende kwa sulemani kutengeneza masanamu kwa adhini ya Allah sasa jibu

Jibu swali
Taja sababu ya Allah kubadili masanamu yenye umbo la mitume na Malaika Kisha akaleta sanamu moja jiwe na jiwe lenyewe lina shape ya uke?

Nataka sababu ya Allah kuwaletea jiwe

Mungu hutumia Malaika wake kumfanyia kazi,kwa nini allah atumie majini?

 

[Eratosthenes]

Ndugu yetu Artificial intelligence tafadhari endelea kutuletea mwendelezo tuachane na hawa wanaotaka kuharibu thread hii maana sisi wengine kuna mengi tunajifunza humu!

 

[msafiri.razaro]

Kwa sababu ya Yohana 4:21 -24 Ndio maana na kutana na Bwana Yesu katika Roho na Kweli hapa kijijini Lupaso sina sababu ya kupanda Yerusalemi tena kwa ajili ya kuworship kama wale wa Agano la Kale. Lakini hata Bwana Yesu akirudi leo sina shaka kwa vile Ufunuo wa Yohana 1:7 ulishanipa uhakika.

Ndiposa na uliza kwa nini Vatican ichukue nafasi ya Yerusalemi ya kuwa .mji mtakatifu?

Its purely business on God's name.

 

[msafiri.razaro]

Kwa sababu ya Yohana 4:21 -24 Ndio maana na kutana na Bwana Yesu katika Roho na Kweli hapa kijijini Lupaso sina sababu ya kupanda Yerusalemi tena kwa ajili ya kuworship kama wale wa Agano la Kale. Lakini hata Bwana Yesu akirudi leo sina shaka kwa vile Ufunuo wa Yohana 1:7 ulishanipa uhakika.

Ndiposa na uliza kwa nini Vatican ichukue nafasi ya Yerusalemi ya kuwa .mji mtakatifu?

Usichanganye Uyahudi na Ukikro, Yerusalemu ni mji mtakatifu kwa dini ya Kiyahudi. Yesu licha ya kwamba alizaliwa kwa imani ya Baba na Mama kama myahudi alitengua Uyahudi na Amri kumi. Alifukuzwa kutokufundisha Hekaluni kwani mafundisho yake yalipingana na Uyahudi. Alipokufa wafuasi wake waliwindwa na kuuwawa wengi walikwenda uhamishoni katika nchi za afrika middle east. Ni Mt. Peter tuu ndio aliweza kumfikia na kimbatiza mtawala wa kilumi na hivyo kuanzisha kanisa Italy. Vatican ndio lilipoanzia kanisa huru la wakristo.