Majibu ya JK kwa Kagame ni haya hapa

[Kaitampunu]

Ashughulike na TZ sio Rwanda, wenzake wanatafuta maisha bora kwa raia wao, yeye anatafuta sifa dunia nzima, ataweza?? remarks za nyerere ziko palepale jamaa bado mdogo sana, kwaherini.

Kwakweli mie sioni tatizo la Kagame! Alichokisema ndo ukweli wenyewe. Kasema tu watu wame panic! Akilianzisha itakuwaje?

 

[ZABRONE JUSTINE]

JK will ever be a mirror to snitches and the solution to provoking pigs! better silence than arguing with a stupid pple! high jk.

 

[reandle]

Mbona nilikuelewa, nilitaka tu nikupe uzito zaidi.

Duh! Mkuu wangu nilikuwa sijaiona ile video....manake ni full maaibu!

 

[kindafu]

Mi sioni haja ya kuingiza nchi vitani.
Kikwete na Kagame wanahitaji kuandaliwa pambano la ngumi, kisha washikishane adabu ulingoni.
Maslahi yao binafsi yasitusababishie raia tuumie.

Mkuu Bujibuji nakuunga mkono-ugomvi wao binafsi kwa nini tunalazimisha kujiingiza? Huyo Mkuu anayedaiwa kutukanwa,kama naye mwanaume,si amjibu huyo Kagame mwenyewe?

 

[kabila01]

Huyu Kagame ni wa kushushiwa kichapo fasta, kanchi kake kadogo kama kijiji cha Mwandiga kwa Zitto.

Waulize Marekani walichokipata kwa Vietnam. Don't judge a book by looking its cover. Cha muhimu ni kumuombea Mwenyezi Mungu atuepushe tusiingie kwenye balaa la vita tuangalie maendeleo ya nchi

 

[Anyisile Obheli]

Mh. Rais J Kikwete tuachie huyo Kagame tumjibu sisi maana kuna video moja hapa JF anasema atakushughulikia akipata nafasi. Wewe kaa kimya maana viongozi wenzio watakushangaa ukijibizana na kichaa huyu. Tena akijifanya anajua sana tumpelekee wanajeshi wa kike wamshughulikie. Tanzania is a great Nation, you can not hold it by your fingers do you hear me Kagame? But three people can surround Rwanda in a single day. By three people I mean, husband, wife and their child.

hahahaha natumaini anasoma humu Kaaagame

 

[Jonathan Kiula]

kazi ipo

 

[RUTAJUMBUKIRWA]

babumsemaovyo you look beautiful but unasema ovyo

I would like to wear my President's shoes to at least make clear of what Jakaya Kikwete's comment really meant to Rwandan Head of State President Paul Kagame. I am not representing him to reply you but I take his feeling to his comment.

Rwanda as our neighbor country has been in "civil war" for about two decades, all these have eliminated lives of the people, some have been left with physical disorders and the majority have an everlasting psychological impact. Let me explain each with a bit wide view;

1. Deaths of Rwandans. The genocide that took place in 1994 caused deaths of at least 800,000 people most of them Tutsi. This wound can not be healed and forgotten for the rest of all Rwandans people. Apartheid in South Africa caused the same to the majority "Black Africans". When Nelson Mandela was released from Robben Island Prison and got elected the first black President of South Africa his main duty was to draft peace is the region instead of refueling hostility among the South Africans. The minority white in South Africa did not believe that it was that Nelson Mandela whom they tortured and imprisoned for life in Robben Island Prison. We can see here that Nelson Mandela's decision worked effectively and it was welcomed by the people of South Africa and entire world and that is why he deserved Noble Peace Prize. Those who did not feel the positive side of Nelson Mandela's decision hate him and this could make him him an important Charismatic Figure we have him in this era. The same concept would have been applied by HE Paul Kagame with the rebels FDLR. In Afghanistan the Taliban are in negotiation with the government to end up killing innocent people and the negotiation has been geared by United States, contradicting with former US President George W Bush who several times was opposing negotiation with terrorists, by saying "United States can not negotiate with terrorists" but finally the same super power has retracted their long-term statement. H.E. Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete is our Head of State whose ambition is Peace making in his land. He knows of course that negotiation could mean defeat to Rwandans but he actually could mean really victory not only to Kagame's government or FDLR but to the people of Rwanda. The rebels FDLR are living in Rwanda and they have the same share of the rest Rwandans deserve. In the Holy Bible Jesus said "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:"

2. Physical Injuries: There is another heavy burden that as a nation has to handle as its responsibility taking care of the injured while at the same time the victims do not get well utilized thoroughly as resource. It is where you get minority who consume what they do not produce and the country using a lot of finance in providing such services to its people.

3. Psychological Impact: This impact is an invisible devil among the victims in Rwanda and almost all Rwandans are victim of this. If your neighbor gets fight with his spouse and that fight gets tough on both side Husband and wife and takes all the night long, a week, month, and later a year. The husband gets more furious of showing defeat to his spouse, and that shall sound nonsense if his neighbor asks him to sit down and make negotiation with his wife. This could sound well if we reflect to how Kagame came to power, in the Holy Bible, MATTHEW 26: 47-55Jesus said, " Jesus told Peter to (put away your sword)for he who lives by the Sword shall die by the sword". Putting the sword down does not mean anything else than meaning "WANTING PEACE"

If Kikwete's Comments had been for we Tanzanians would have been so welcomed-comment as a sign of peace. The "Psychological Impact" if not prestige of Rwandan President towards FDLR has sparked that sort of anger from Kagame. We ask President Kagame to calm down if someone gives you such a suggestion you had to take one of the two options (a) Negotiate with FDLR as Jesus said to Peter "put away your sword. OR (b) Keep on Killing each other, as Jesus said to Peter that he who lives by the sword die by the sword. Kikwete did not want to shame you "the brave man" in front of your victimized children who could clap hands as if they are fully happy living in that state of life.

CHOOSE ONE: NEGOTIATE OF CONTINUE FIGHTING WITH FDLR.

 

[RUTAJUMBUKIRWA]

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NasDaz,

..siku majeshi ya Rwanda na Uganda yalipopigana Kisangani, DRC, ndipo nilipojihakikishia kwamba Kagame na Museveni ni wendawazimu.

..nilisikitishwa sana na kitendo cha Raisi Mkapa kuwaandalia kikao cha usuluhishi Chamwino, Dodoma. hawa ilitakiwa waachwe kama walivyo ili dunia ijue their true colors.

..hivi kuna anayekumbuka chanzo cha vita baina ya Rwanda na Uganda, ktk ardhi ya Congo??

cc: RUTAJUMBUKIRWA, Jasusi, Nguruvi3

 

[Maswala]

Akiwa Japan, JK alistushwa sana na kauli ya waziri wa mambo ya nje wa Rwanda kumwita genocide sympathizer. Mara Yakaandikwa majibu na kuchapishwa kwenye official blog ya Tanzania, na kasha yakatolewa gazeti la serikali Daily News chini ya kichwa cha habari: Come on Rwanda: The guy wa I will hit him, has been mocked in this:
Rwanda’s reaction to President Kikwete’s statement shocking: Tanzanian Government | The Rwandan here is the full article written hurriedly when Kikwete was in Japan and was posted by Maelezo on official govt blog
Rwanda’s reaction to President Kikwete’s statement shocking
Posted on June 1, 2013

Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete

On 26 May 2013 in Addis Ababa the UN Secretary General, Mr. Ban Ki-moon and the Chairperson of the African Union Commission Dr. Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma, convened the first meeting of the Regional Oversight Mechanism of the Peace, Security and Cooperation Framework for the DRC and Region. It was at this important meeting where the President of the United Republic of Tanzania, H.E. Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete made what many level headed commentators have referredto as candid and commonsensical remarks about the protracted conflicts in the Great Lakes Region. President Kikwete - a seasoned and consummate diplomat who has helped broker many peace deals in Africa - remarked that it was high time Rwanda and Uganda gave serious attention to peace talks with FDLR and ADFrebels respectively.

He said, and correctly so, that it was evident the barrel of the gun cannot bring about the ultimate answer as testified by the recurrence of fighting in our region. He never condoned the role that the FDLR rebels played in the 1994 genocide. He was being reasonable and pragmatic.

Rwanda should know better than any other country that there is no way Tanzania would condone or sympathize with the perpetrators of genocide. To make suchinsinuations is, quite frankly, a demonstration of breathtaking ignorance about Tanzania’s enviable and unparalleled history - the history of speaking out against any forms of crimes and injustices. Moreover, for Rwanda to make such insinuations is to show just what a short memory span this country has.

Admittedly, genocide brought about painful and unforgettable misery to the people of Rwanda but its spillover effects were felt well beyond its borders. The effects of genocide were felt right inside Tanzania which had to shoulder the burden ofproviding for thousands of Rwandan refugees. By the way, Tanzania has a long history of taking good care of Rwandan refugees both before and after genocide.

The sons and daughters of the Rwandan refugees benefitted from Tanzania’s generous education system by studying, for free, at the country’s Universities and many of them are now occupying high positions in the Government of their motherland.

So given the foregoing, I have to say that I have been taken aback by ourneighbors’ over-reaction to what was a completely innocuous statement byPresident Kikwete. Indeed, what the President said could (and should) have been said by other leaders a long time ago. What he said is a no-brainer! It is commonsensical! Negotiations have a much better chance of resulting into durable peace than the use of force. Thus, I find the reactions from Rwanda not only disturbing but also objectionable and utterly impudent!

What is even more shocking is the discourteous behavior shown by the Rwanda’s Foreign Minister. She seems to be getting too much big for her boots as to suggest that PresidentKikwete’s statement was absurd! She even has the audacity to ask that he should retract it. If anything, I think it is our Foreign Ministry which should summon the Ambassador of Rwanda in Dar es Salaam and ask him to clarify his Minister’s inadvisable utterances.

For far too long now the international community has adopted a softly softly approach with respect to Rwanda and this has meant that this tiny country getsaway with literally everything, even murder. Rwanda has become like a spoiled child - untouchable and overly sensitive to everything even the slightest suggestion of censure. Rwanda has a tendency of not taking kindly any form of criticism whether from within or without. And its leadership comes across as snobbish and delusional. May be the western countries’ plaudits about its so called success storyhave finally got into the heads of Rwandan leaders so much that they think they know it all.

For Rwanda to say that they cannot engage in talks with FDLR rebels because of their role in 1994 genocide is to allow themselves to be the captives of the past. History is replete with numerous instances of former sworn enemies burying their hatchets and extending an olive branch to one another for the sake of peaceful coexistence and future prosperity. This happened in South Africa where ANC and other progressive movements sat down with the perpetrators of one of the most brutal and inhumane policies in the history of mankind (apartheid) and agreed to work together in an inclusive and democratic society. Similarly, after many decades of committing some of the most heinous crimes against the people of Angola, UNITA is now part of the democratic government of that country. And in 2011, US and its allies initiated direct talks with some elements of the Taliban in Doha (Qatar), if my memory serves me well.

Rwanda should wake up and smell the coffee! Being delusional has not workedand won’t work. It is now close to 20 yrs since the 1994 genocide and during all that time Rwanda has not been able to achieve its objectives visa vis FDLR rebelsthrough the use of force. Any sane person in Kigali should see the wisdom of changing the tactic/strategy which is, for all purposes and intents, what our President said in the Statement. Rwanda should understand that by calling for direct talks, Tanzania does not suggest, by any stretch of imagination, that the architects and executors of genocide should go scot free. Not at all! Talks can, and indeed should, offer the mechanism of dealing with known perpetrators of genocide by isolating them from non-perpetrators such as those born after 1994.This is just one example of approaching talks. I am sure there are many others.

But talking of genocide, am I wrong in recalling that even President Kagame himself was once found to be complicit in this crime by a French Magistrate? I recall that Rwanda’s reaction to this finding was, as we have come to expect, fast and furious to the extent of severing its diplomatic relations with France.

Again, this goes to show that this “spoiled child” can’t stand any sort of censure or straight talking. I also recall that as recent as last year a UN report revealed that Rwanda’s Kagame had committed or assisted in committing genocide in DRC!

Despite all this compelling evidence, neighbors of Rwanda are still ready to engage that country in talks. Why can’t Rwanda show the same attitude? And lest he forgets, Kagame himself and his RPF henchmen come from a background of rebellion. They were rebels operating from Ugandan forests before taking over power in 1994. However, despite their “rebels” status they were invited and took part in the Arusha peace process of the early 1990s.

Finally, I have a gut feeling that Rwanda doesn’t want FDLR rebels to go awaythat’s is why it is vehemently opposing the suggestion of talks which is one sure way of ending this conflict once and for all. This because, the perpetual presence of FDLR rebels in DRC gives Rwanda a convenient excuse to interfere in the DRC’s affairs thereby making the country ungovernable for its own economic and geopolitical interests.

I read somewhere that Rwanda’s army – which is one of the biggest for a country of that economy and size – is mainly sustained by the exploitation of DRC’s natural resources. So, Rwanda goes into the DRC on the pretext that it is in hot pursuit of the FDLR rebels but in actual fact what it does is to plunder the resources.

And Rwanda is particularly angry with Tanzania because by being part of MONUSCO in DRC, its misdeeds will be exposed and curtailed by our non-nonsense troops. So the over-reaction to our President’s innocuous statement should not be seen in isolation. It is part of the frustration born out of the uneasy situation which Rwanda finds itself in as a result of our troops being part of the UN/SADC intervention force in DRC.
I submit.

Concerned Citizen
Source: The Tanzanian Government official blog

This is what I was waiting for a long time. Gravel!

 

[Mlengo wa Kati]

Kwakweli mie sioni tatizo la Kagame! Alichokisema ndo ukweli wenyewe. Kasema tu watu wame panic! Akilianzisha itakuwaje?

Hivi mtu akikushauri una gombana nae? Kama ushauri wa kipuuuuzi si una uacha? Kagame ni mjinga na kichaaa kama mbwa jike

 

[JokaKuu]

RUTAJUMBUKIRWA,

..Rwanda wanapozungumzia genocide na husema:" never again."

..je, kauli hiyo imelenga kwa Wanyarwanda tu, au hata kwa majirani zao?

..wa-Congo milioni 3 wamepoteza maisha ktk vita na machafuko ambayo yana mkono wa Rwanda.

..ifike mahali tuseme inatosha, na tuchukue hatua za dhati kuhakikisha kuna amani na usalama mashariki mwa DRC.

 

[Nguruvi3]

Nguruvi3,

..kwa kweli vita ya Rwanda na Uganda ilikuwa ni maajabu.

..yaani ni sawa na Mozambique na Tanzania wapigane.

..Au, Zimbabwe na Mozambique wapigane.

..mahusiano ya Kagame na Museveni, nayafananisha na jinsi Samora na Nyenyere walivyokuwa.

JokaKuu, taratibu majibu yanaanza kupatikana. Kagame amekiri kuwa hapendezwi na kupelekwa vikosi vya SADC eti kwasababu kuta destabilize eneo.

Ameomba audience na US lakini hataki nchi za SADC zenye majeshi zishiriki.
Kagame ni mhalifu wa vita na sasa maji yapo shingoni. Ziara ya Obama imeibua mengi, John Kerry anakuja kwa ajili ya follow up na hapo Kagame tumbo linauma.

Soma hiihttp://www.dailynews.co.tz/index.ph...asks-us-for-inclusion-in-dr-congo-peace-talks

 

[Nicholas]

Hadi leo mnamwamini JK..?Alichukua mwaka yeye na El wakisema ndio tunaanza ari mpya kasi mpya, hadi sasa bado anaaahidi tuu..Huku akisema Dr. Slaa ndio kamzuia Tenda mara watendaji wake.

Sasa hiyo migogoro musahau..hakuna mtanzania huko wakutishwa na wang`oa meno au Pinda halfu aende bungeni kusema kila kitu kipo shwari.Analeta mizaha na Killing machines ambao wanaona smile lake km kiumbe laini cha kuua.JK ni w akupima akili.

 

[jiwekuu770]

Weye Kagame ulihehe wewe mkenyezi unathubutu kutukana Mamba kabla hujavuka Mto? shauri yako sisi tutakuowa. Chezea hao hao kina FDRL siyo TPDF tula kwicha ulasaze wewe mwana

Ivi wee n mkongo au muganda