Competence of muccobs graduate!

[Blessingme]

dah! kazi ipo, kila mtu hapa atasifia chuo alichosoma

ni kweli, lakin mi ckumaanisha hvy nlivyokuwa naanzisha thread hii. Thanx

 

[Perry]

Graduate wa Mzumbe, IFM, UDSM, akikaa miaka miwili ujue dau linapanda mpaka zaidi ya milion moja, halafu waajili wote macho yao kwa hawa graduate (Ila ni kwa wale haswa wenye GPA nzuri), kwa hiyo MUCCOBS inawezekana wakapendelewa kutokana na kutulia kazini ndiyo maana hata bank zingine zinapenda graduate wa SUA kwa sababu huwa wao wamesoma shule isiyokuwa na soko i.e agri...., kwa hiyo mtu kama huyo ukimuajili hana pa kwenda, ataenda wapi??? na hilo li agri,...., lakini wa UDSM, Mzumbe, IFM, e bwana wanatafutwa kinoma na wanabadilisha kazi kila baada ya muda fulani kutafuta masilahi zaidi. Kwa ufupi graduate wa SUA maisha magumu so hawawezi kuhama, hama, na employee nakubali kuingia gharama kuwatrain, lakini faidi ni ile uwepo kazini muda mrefu.

ya kwel hayo lakn,mbona nackia SUA ndo wanaotoa product nzur zaid,hasa ktk ile bachelor yao ya agro-economcs nd agro-busness?

 

[tindikalikali]

ukizungumzia ubora unalinganisha na wapi?

 

[Crux Yar-die]

Mzumbe ni chuo gani ?Locally ama Internationally?
Kama wanafunzi wa Muccobs-SUA ni cheep labour sasa sijui wanafunzi wa Mzumbe watakuwa kitu gani!
Jariribu kuwa mfuatiliaji kidogo Google upate Rank ya vyuo Duniani na Africa ,Then fananisha na Mzumbe na Sua.Kwa taarifa fupi Huku nchi za watu wanajua Tz kuna vyuo viwili tu UDSM na SUA.

 

[Horseshoe Arch]

Ni chepuo zuri umekipigia chuo chako

 

[Ulimakafu]

mmmh kwel usomi wako shida kwel had leo bado unashindana coz 4 mi naamini ukiwa umejiunga chuo tu cha gvt achana na hv vya private ni mtu wa kuheshimika kama msomi so we unaleta vya uform six kama uliiba paper 2tajuaje c kipimo hicho
unaona sasa umesoma hujaelimika ndo wakukariri hawa

Kweli kuna vyuo vingine ni tata,lakini compentence ya mtu haijalishi chuo gani umesoma.

 

[Blessingme]

ya kwel hayo lakn,mbona nackia SUA ndo wanaotoa product nzur zaid,hasa ktk ile bachelor yao ya agro-economcs nd agro-busness?

bora uwaambie, katika rank udsm na sua ndo vyuo katika africa accredited ifm, mzumbe nenda angalia tcu. Muccobs tupo sua

 

[Blessingme]

Mzumbe ni chuo gani ?Locally ama Internationally?
Kama wanafunzi wa Muccobs-SUA ni cheep labour sasa sijui wanafunzi wa Mzumbe watakuwa kitu gani!
Jariribu kuwa mfuatiliaji kidogo Google upate Rank ya vyuo Duniani na Africa ,Then fananisha na Mzumbe na Sua.Kwa taarifa fupi Huku nchi za watu wanajua Tz kuna vyuo viwili tu UDSM na SUA.

umeona eeh, wanabisha bila data

 

[nyumba kubwa]

Recolonization. Does it matter to you nchi za watu zikikutambua?

Mzumbe ni chuo gani ?Locally ama Internationally?
Kama wanafunzi wa Muccobs-SUA ni cheep labour sasa sijui wanafunzi wa Mzumbe watakuwa kitu gani!
Jariribu kuwa mfuatiliaji kidogo Google upate Rank ya vyuo Duniani na Africa ,Then fananisha na Mzumbe na Sua.Kwa taarifa fupi Huku nchi za watu wanajua Tz kuna vyuo viwili tu UDSM na SUA.

 

[nyumba kubwa]

You guys keep on believing you will have market simply bcos you are a graduate of a certain university. Ngoja East Africa wafungue milango ya ushindani mtakuja humu humu kutoa ushuhuda. Employers wanataka watu critical, creative, analyitical etc (those with employability skills) sasa nyie bwetekeni ooh nimesoma sijuhi wapi, mtakalia kulalamika mbona wakenya wanapewa vyeo vya juu sisi wazawa tupo. It does not matter umesoma wapi ila umejifunza nini huko ulikosoma.

 

[Husninyo]

.It does not matter umesoma wapi ila umejifunza nini huko ulikosoma.

well said nyumba kubwa.
Wasomi wa sahivi inabidi wafanye jitihada za kujitofautisha wao na wenzao maana ushindani mkubwa.
Usiangalie umesoma chuo fulani kisa kina umaarufu kidogo ndio uwe kifua mbele. Hata hicho chuo chenyewe wapo mapoyoyo wanaograduate.

 

[Mtoboasiri]

well said nyumba kubwa.
Wasomi wa sahivi inabidi wafanye jitihada za kujitofautisha wao na wenzao maana ushindani mkubwa.
Usiangalie umesoma chuo fulani kisa kina umaarufu kidogo ndio uwe kifua mbele. Hata hicho chuo chenyewe wapo mapoyoyo wanaograduate.

Mwajiri huajiri mtu ambae (mwajiri) anaamini atatimiza malengo ya yeye kumuajiri na kufuatana na malengo ya taasisi husika na kutokana na mahitaji ya wakati huo. Kwa mfano si kwa bahati mbaya wafanyakazi wengi wa mapokezi ni wasichana, si kwa bahati mbaya hospitality industry (hotels na bars) waajiriwa wengi ni wasichana - na si kwamba wanaume hawawezi kufanya kazi hizo, la hasha kuna sababu za msingi kwa nini hali iko hivyo.

Hali kadhalika kwa upande wa elimu, aina ya taaluma, kiwango cha ufaulu na umri wako vinachangia mwajiri ku - predict likely behaviour of the prospective employee. Si kwa bahati mbaya Bank Tellers wanapoajiriwa wanatokea kuwa na umri mdogo na most likely kuwa fresh from school/college. Kuna kazi mwajiri asingependelea ukae kuifanya mpaka uzeekee hapo (in that case they are likely to hire high grade graduates who are likely to move in the near future), kuna kazi zinazotaka mtu akae muda mrefu (especially repeatitive in nature kama data entry - watataka mtu ambae possibility yake ya kuhama kwa kupata kazi nyingine ni almost zero) na kuna kazi nyingine zinafaa vijana tu, nyingine zinahitaji low grade graduates au basic literacy (can you imagine under normal circumstances high grade university graduate akae barabarani kushika bango la tangazo la biashara au kuongoza magari?). So, being employed or favoured to be employed by a certain organisation does not imply absolute general competence - or lack of it- of a college. It just means those particular employers believe your kind of training and performance is more suitable to their relative needs.

Kwa upande wa wahadhiri, competence ya mtu ndiyo kitu cha maana na competence is not necessarily linked to one's PhD or Masters. Binafsi nimefundishwa (na si hapa nchini) na senior lecturer ambae hana first degree achilia mbali Masters au PhD (mnamkumbuka yule mwalimu wa muziki UDSM - sikumbuki jina lake ila kwa sasa ni marehemu na alipokuja Pope John Paul II aliitwa kupiga kinanda pale Jangwani? The oldman was so talented japo hakuwa na degree - UDSM hawakuwahi kumpa japo U - TA kwa kuwa hakuwa na degree lakini alikuwa anaitwa Europe kufundisha kupiga kinanda). Just think, a the first university lecturer alipewa degree na nani??

My two cents.

 

[Husninyo]

Mwajiri huajiri mtu ambae (mwajiri) anaamini atatimiza malengo ya yeye kumuajiri na kufuatana na malengo ya taasisi husika na kutokana na mahitaji ya wakati huo. Kwa mfano si kwa bahati mbaya wafanyakazi wengi wa mapokezi ni wasichana, si kwa bahati mbaya hospitality industry (hotels na bars) waajiriwa wengi ni wasichana - na si kwamba wanaume hawawezi kufanya kazi hizo, la hasha kuna sababu za msingi kwa nini hali iko hivyo.

Hali kadhalika kwa upande wa elimu, aina ya taaluma, kiwango cha ufaulu na umri wako vinachangia mwajiri ku - predict likely behaviour of the prospective employee. Si kwa bahati mbaya Bank Tellers wanapoajiriwa wanatokea kuwa na umri mdogo na most likely kuwa fresh from school/college. Kuna kazi mwajiri asingependelea ukae kuifanya mpaka uzeekee hapo (in that case they are likely to hire high grade graduates who are likely to move in the near future), kuna kazi zinazotaka mtu akae muda mrefu (especially repeatitive in nature kama data entry - watataka mtu ambae possibility yake ya kuhama kwa kupata kazi nyingine ni almost zero) na kuna kazi nyingine zinafaa vijana tu, nyingine zinahitaji low grade graduates au basic literacy (can you imagine under normal circumstances high grade university graduate akae barabarani kushika bango la tangazo la biashara au kuongoza magari?). So, being employed or favoured to be employed by a certain organisation does not imply absolute general competence - or lack of it- of a college. It just means those particular employers believe your kind of training and performance is more suitable to their relative needs.

Kwa upande wa wahadhiri, competence ya mtu ndiyo kitu cha maana na competence is not necessarily linked to one's PhD or Masters. Binafsi nimefundishwa (na si hapa nchini) na senior lecturer ambae hana first degree achilia mbali Masters au PhD (mnamkumbuka yule mwalimu wa muziki UDSM - sikumbuki jina lake ila kwa sasa ni marehemu na alipokuja Pope John Paul II aliitwa kupiga kinanda pale Jangwani? The oldman was so talented japo hakuwa na degree - UDSM hawakuwahi kumpa japo U - TA kwa kuwa hakuwa na degree lakini alikuwa anaitwa Europe kufundisha kupiga kinanda). Just think, a the first university lecturer alipewa degree na nani??

My two cents.

umeongea vyema mtoboasiri.
Ni kweli kila mwajiri anaangalia vigezo vyake. Kuna ofisi moja huku nilipo huyo mzee ni mwanasheria na anaajiri mabinti tu. Hakuna mwanaume hata mmoja.
Inapofikia suala la kuajiri choice hubaki kwa muajiri. Hakuna mtu atakayependa kuharibiwa kazi yake.
Watu huwa tunalalamika ajira ni za kubebana lakini siku hizi hata kama unabebwa na wewe inabidi uwe na vigezo vya kubebeka.
Waajiri wasiangalie huyu kasoma udsm basi ataweza kazi kuliko huyu aliyesoma CBE.
Kuna kazi zingine zinahitaji sifa binafsi na hizo huwezi kufundishwa chuo chochote.

 

[Gsana]

Inafuatana na Hr aliyepo amesoma wapi. Mfano Std chartered kabla ya mwaka 2009 walikuwa wanaajiri udsm na mzumbe,baada ya mke wa prof.ambaye aliamishiwa std chartered uarabuni,kaangalie tangu 2009 mpaka leo wameajiri vp! Sitoi jibu chunguza mwenyewe!

 

[Nyenyere]

Mwajiri huajiri mtu ambae (mwajiri) anaamini atatimiza malengo ya yeye kumuajiri na kufuatana na malengo ya taasisi husika na kutokana na mahitaji ya wakati huo. Kwa mfano si kwa bahati mbaya wafanyakazi wengi wa mapokezi ni wasichana, si kwa bahati mbaya hospitality industry (hotels na bars) waajiriwa wengi ni wasichana - na si kwamba wanaume hawawezi kufanya kazi hizo, la hasha kuna sababu za msingi kwa nini hali iko hivyo.

Hali kadhalika kwa upande wa elimu, aina ya taaluma, kiwango cha ufaulu na umri wako vinachangia mwajiri ku - predict likely behaviour of the prospective employee. Si kwa bahati mbaya Bank Tellers wanapoajiriwa wanatokea kuwa na umri mdogo na most likely kuwa fresh from school/college. Kuna kazi mwajiri asingependelea ukae kuifanya mpaka uzeekee hapo (in that case they are likely to hire high grade graduates who are likely to move in the near future), kuna kazi zinazotaka mtu akae muda mrefu (especially repeatitive in nature kama data entry - watataka mtu ambae possibility yake ya kuhama kwa kupata kazi nyingine ni almost zero) na kuna kazi nyingine zinafaa vijana tu, nyingine zinahitaji low grade graduates au basic literacy (can you imagine under normal circumstances high grade university graduate akae barabarani kushika bango la tangazo la biashara au kuongoza magari?). So, being employed or favoured to be employed by a certain organisation does not imply absolute general competence - or lack of it- of a college. It just means those particular employers believe your kind of training and performance is more suitable to their relative needs.

Kwa upande wa wahadhiri, competence ya mtu ndiyo kitu cha maana na competence is not necessarily linked to one's PhD or Masters. Binafsi nimefundishwa (na si hapa nchini) na senior lecturer ambae hana first degree achilia mbali Masters au PhD (mnamkumbuka yule mwalimu wa muziki UDSM - sikumbuki jina lake ila kwa sasa ni marehemu na alipokuja Pope John Paul II aliitwa kupiga kinanda pale Jangwani? The oldman was so talented japo hakuwa na degree - UDSM hawakuwahi kumpa japo U - TA kwa kuwa hakuwa na degree lakini alikuwa anaitwa Europe kufundisha kupiga kinanda). Just think, a the first university lecturer alipewa degree na nani??

My two cents.

Marehemu John Mgandu?

 

[Mtoboasiri]

Marehemu John Mgandu?

Naam! Umenikumbusha. Na nadhani unamfahamu, kwa hiyo utanisaidia kuwafahamisha wanaukumbi umahiri wa Mwalimu Mgandu (RIP).

 

[Domaradzka]

Mwajiri huajiri mtu ambae (mwajiri) anaamini atatimiza malengo ya yeye kumuajiri na kufuatana na malengo ya taasisi husika na kutokana na mahitaji ya wakati huo. Kwa mfano si kwa bahati mbaya wafanyakazi wengi wa mapokezi ni wasichana, si kwa bahati mbaya hospitality industry (hotels na bars) waajiriwa wengi ni wasichana - na si kwamba wanaume hawawezi kufanya kazi hizo, la hasha kuna sababu za msingi kwa nini hali iko hivyo.

Hali kadhalika kwa upande wa elimu, aina ya taaluma, kiwango cha ufaulu na umri wako vinachangia mwajiri ku - predict likely behaviour of the prospective employee. Si kwa bahati mbaya Bank Tellers wanapoajiriwa wanatokea kuwa na umri mdogo na most likely kuwa fresh from school/college. Kuna kazi mwajiri asingependelea ukae kuifanya mpaka uzeekee hapo (in that case they are likely to hire high grade graduates who are likely to move in the near future), kuna kazi zinazotaka mtu akae muda mrefu (especially repeatitive in nature kama data entry - watataka mtu ambae possibility yake ya kuhama kwa kupata kazi nyingine ni almost zero) na kuna kazi nyingine zinafaa vijana tu, nyingine zinahitaji low grade graduates au basic literacy (can you imagine under normal circumstances high grade university graduate akae barabarani kushika bango la tangazo la biashara au kuongoza magari?). So, being employed or favoured to be employed by a certain organisation does not imply absolute general competence - or lack of it- of a college. It just means those particular employers believe your kind of training and performance is more suitable to their relative needs.

Kwa upande wa wahadhiri, competence ya mtu ndiyo kitu cha maana na competence is not necessarily linked to one's PhD or Masters. Binafsi nimefundishwa (na si hapa nchini) na senior lecturer ambae hana first degree achilia mbali Masters au PhD (mnamkumbuka yule mwalimu wa muziki UDSM - sikumbuki jina lake ila kwa sasa ni marehemu na alipokuja Pope John Paul II aliitwa kupiga kinanda pale Jangwani? The oldman was so talented japo hakuwa na degree - UDSM hawakuwahi kumpa japo U - TA kwa kuwa hakuwa na degree lakini alikuwa anaitwa Europe kufundisha kupiga kinanda). Just think, a the first university lecturer alipewa degree na nani??

My two cents.

John Mgandu alipata shahada yake ya awali Bsc in Music aliipatia Toronto Canada,1972-1974 na Masters udsm 1987 na phD yake aliipata udsm. Na alikuwa lecturer udsm mpaka anafariki