Uhuru n Umoja
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- May 25, 2016
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As much as I agree with him being capped by the rule of law and the constitution, and the need for the institutions to do their job, I felt let down by him admitting his frustrations so blatantly in the national TV. He is the authority, the center and him standing there so helplessly just sent panic across the whole nation.
He should bark, chest thump, shout, threaten and be seen to be in control like uncle Magu down-south.
The constitution limits him right, but he still has a lot at his disposal, he has the NIS that he should be using to gather intelligence on the corrupt cartels and fight them through other means without creating much fireworks.
I don't even know what am complaining about, hey people we have a situation and must deal with it as a nation. Seeing those institutional heads passing the buck at each other so defensively, dampened my spirit on this war. The judicially blaming it on the investigators and lack of resources to hasten cases, police head burying his head on the sand so shamelessly...... people we have it on our hands.
Anyway it's a good start, has generated a nationwide debate, however not sure what impact this will have, or the outcome, or the way forward but let's talk, scream, vent our anger, shout....somewhere down the bumpy ride, it might get better.
I would vouch for our model a thousand times, a constitutional order and power on institutions has always been the best way and has been tested all over the world. The Tanzanian model is way far behind us, we were there eons ago. It's history to us and we will never wish for it. Don't drag us back.
Despite Magufuli having the powers to hire and fire at the slightest whim, can you point out any high profile corruption cases he has helped to curtail. The records are still there in the open, the likes of Lugumi, Escrow, IPTL etc the beneficiaries of these vices are still walking free in the current regime and holding offices.
You always hide behind narrations that these rottennesses happened during the previous administration, but it's a known fact Magu inherited all the dirt from that regime, including beneficiaries who are seating pretty.
Uncle Magu isn't barking, he is a real bulldog. If you get the wrong side of uncle Magu, you will be sorry that you have ever imagined.
Back to Kenya.
You guys need to drop your constitution, its not working. But Uhuru has disgraced Kenya today, this will create lot of headlines across the world and may scare foreign investors.
He should step down, he is clueless. Does he know what kind of damage he has suffered Kenya's image both regionally and internationally?
Look its up to you! while we do the best we can to keep our house in order you keep on drawing unnecessary comparisons to maintain what is obviously useless constitution. Tanzania model isn't a paragon of excellence but it works for us, and we love it as it is. Nyie mnajifanya eti we are too far....simply because you are too corrupt and dishonest therefore unable to accept mistakes. Yes, your constitution is great but so unfit to effectively address the current challenges Kenya faces and so many other issues Kenya must confront to turn your country around.
Tanzania tunasubiri Court ya Mafisadi ainze, kuna watu zaidi ya 3,000 wanapanda kizimbani, kwa ufisadi, uhujumu uchumi, lengo ni kutaifisha mali zao zipatazo karibu $2.5billion, $500million itaenda kwa Mahakama na $2 billion kwaajili ya kununua ndege za AirTanzania, mpango ni kununua ndege zaidi ya Kumi kubwa. Yes, we are not perfect but mwanzo mzuri pia Raisi wetu aliilii kama mtoto yatima.
Kesho kwenye magazeti angalia hasa ya nnje, mnawapa chance ya kuwaongelea vibaya, what useless president.
uhuru and magufuli are in two different cicurmstances.....dont compare the two.uhuru's power is limited by the constitution while magufuli is the constitution
For the critics of the Kenyan constitution, you should know that it has been termed as the best in all developing countries, and better than most other constitution s in the developed world.
Even so, We must appreciate that it is a very sophisticated one and as such it will take about 20years to be completely effective. Transition from one constitution to another is not an overnight affair. It takes time and a lot of commitment and money.
However when it finally takes off, Kenya's legal landscape will be miles ahead of its peers (Nigeria, South Africa and Egypt).
I would vouch for our model a thousand times, a constitutional order and power on institutions has always been the best way and has been tested all over the world. The Tanzanian model is way far behind us, we were there eons ago. It's history to us and we will never wish for it. Don't drag us back.
Despite Magufuli having the powers to hire and fire at the slightest whim, can you point out any high profile corruption cases he has helped to curtail. The records are still there in the open, the likes of Lugumi, Escrow, IPTL etc the beneficiaries of these vices are still walking free in the current regime and holding offices.
You always hide behind narrations that these rottennesses happened during the previous administration, but it's a known fact Magu inherited all the dirt from that regime, including beneficiaries who are seating pretty.
The Magufuli administration has charged former TRA Commissioner General along with two accomplices (former bank employees) with money laundering and economic espionage in the EGMA scandal. The case is ongoing but is one example of a high profile prosecution.I would vouch for our model a thousand times, a constitutional order and power on institutions has always been the best way and has been tested all over the world. The Tanzanian model is way far behind us, we were there eons ago. It's history to us and we will never wish for it. Don't drag us back.
Despite Magufuli having the powers to hire and fire at the slightest whim, can you point out any high profile corruption cases he has helped to curtail. The records are still there in the open, the likes of Lugumi, Escrow, IPTL etc the beneficiaries of these vices are still walking free in the current regime and holding offices.
You always hide behind narrations that these rottennesses happened during the previous administration, but it's a known fact Magu inherited all the dirt from that regime, including beneficiaries who are seating pretty.
Your assertion is like of one who praises his cat that is very beautiful..... but surprisingly, his own house which he lives with his cat is full of rats......
Brother, how can you be proud of a constitution which shields the corruption suspects... Inatia hasira sana
The Magufuli administration has charged former TRA Commissioner General along with two accomplices (former bank employees) with money laundering and economic espionage in the EGMA scandal. The case is ongoing but is one example of a high profile prosecution.
Brother, why are you keep on keeping me embracing something which is nonstarter? If the mother law of the land does not give the head of the state the legal muscles to fight grafts, why don't you drop it???Two bank employees???? A former commissioner??? Give me a break, a commissioner is just a puppet in any government organization, until you get hold of dark forces, high profile individual behind the puppet, you're just going round a huge baobab tree.
Brother, why are you keep on keeping me embracing something which is nonstarter? If the mother law of the land does not give the head of the state the legal muscles to fight grafts, why don't you drop it???
Just watched the statehouse summit on corruption and I couldn't have been more disgusted.
A whole president complaining about corruption, blaming the Judges and what not that he has done everything and nothing seems to be moving. What kind of nonsense is this? If he too goes on complaining, what does he expect the rest of us to do?
Expecting that "Independent bodies " which are themselves useless bodies filled with thieves will fight corruption is to be naive of him. Now the thieves will get bolder. Waste of time this man is. We are borrowing 800 Million shillings a day and this guy doesn't even see it as his SOLE responsibility to protect this nation from thieves who are looting us dry?
Magufuli with all his faults, is a much better choice that Uhuru who has perfected the art of complaining and warning thieves. His deputy - Ule jamaa wa "My friend", is not any better. Such a sad state of affairs.
MK254
All you said are correct. But a stronghold political will is of utmost important. We don't expect the president to be the only player of the war against graft, but the master of the bandwagon. Now if the master is losing hope, what do you expect to others??