Kenya – Africa’s infrastructure powerhouse

Iconoclastes · Jul 10, 2017

t-time said:
Is this how u roll bro ,after painting my country you play the victim ? You makin me feel like I did something wrong by posting my countries towns now u revert to been a victim

What did I say about your cities? Was it not u who came here attacking Kenyans and calling our country a hungry, poor, aid dependant country. I just had to show u that yours isnt a bed of roses either.

More pipo are going hungry over there than here, I restrained from revealing some more societal problems which are more prevalent over there than here in a long shot, but I held back.

I spoke no shit about your cities, they are world class. But SA has its own inadequecies, typical of virtually every developing country.

If I had hurt ur feelings , sorry man. Just dont throw stones if ur dwelling in a glasshouse. Stop acting the victim.

If u disagreed with the both reports, u shld have fowarded you quibbles to to the authors who are non- Kenyan experts and vent your frustrations on that dotard of a president called Zuma or the Guptas or whoever is running SA.

tuusan · Jul 11, 2017

Kenyans yu shuld be selective while preparing articles,Kenya infrastructures powerhouse?yu must be kidding ...that is y t-time is here to prove yu wrong,next time learn to tell urself what's pleases yu without irritation others..

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Iconoclastes · Jul 11, 2017

eliakeem said:
A: Apart from a level value of properties, peculiar features are
1. high population density,
2. high crime rate,
3. persistence of sporadic diseases,
4. difficulty in upgrading the area with basic social infrastructure.

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all these, including insufficient availabity of social amenities and widespread poverty is enuff to categorize such a place as a slum!

B: Informal settlements and unplanned settlements can be used interchangeably. Though informal can also be refered as the pieces of land which have not been well registered and documented in cadastral system.

I trust we are now in the same metro.

Kibera, Khayelitsha, etc are categorized as informal settlements! Google it!

Informal settlements are slums! Now, if u are telling me that informal settlements and unplanned settlements mean more or less the same thing...it's confusing, very confusing.

Your argument is that is that unplanned settlements are marked by the availability of some descent dwellings amongst the many poor houses, so on that basis alone they are not considered as slums, regardless of the fact that the majority of the residents- the ones living in the poor houses have no running water, toilets, electricity, security, medical facilities, widespread poverty....but arent these the characteristics of slums!

Kibera slum in Nairobi is not entirely comprised of shanties. My former boss lives in Kibera, not a ramshack, but in a very big house in a gated community. The estate is called Onyonka (google Onyonka estate, images), it is in Kibera. And it is not the only one.

Otiende estate is near Kibera, so is Ngei. Madaraka Estate is in Kibera. Woodly Estate....borders the slum. Sandwitched btwn Otiende and the Langata cemetary is this other estate I have no idea what it is called....it is still part of the larger Kibera. The modern NHC housing.....very adjacent to Kibera
slum.

So based on your argument, isnt Kibera then more of an "unplanned settlement" than a slum, than say Tandale in Dar?

NairobiWalker · Jul 11, 2017

t-time said:
Did u know the moment you mentioned "africa" you mentio ed SA indirectly n true south africans will not shut up . ooh by the way we r still part of this dark continent that includes kenya lol .next time when you dont want my good cities taking over your thread Dont generalise n include my sa in it then you gon b good

.,.....and out of all Africans, only a South African decided to come in full force with insults and disparaging a whole country for an article that speaks about infrastructure growth and not the status quo? So much for a people that claims to 'concentrate on themselves'.

NairobiWalker · Jul 11, 2017

saadeque said:
pal,we didnt write that report and no one is denying the fact that SA is ages ahead in terms of development..we coming up to and that is also a fact

This guy has issues. Nobody even denies the fact that SA is miles ahead of Kenya in infrastructure. It seems that the guy didn't either read the article or understand it or is just one of those keyboard warriors with nothing else to do in their lives.

Wembe1 · Jul 11, 2017

Good morning good people. Why does not T-time invite another South African to the forum. Till then I assume that he is a Danganyikan out to trash Kenya because clearly they are beat in the Dar vs Nai thread

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kadoda11 · Jul 11, 2017

Wembe1 said:
Good morning good people. Why does not T-time invite another South African to the forum. Till then I assume that he is a Danganyikan out to trash Kenya because clearly they are beat in the Dar vs Nai thread

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you should beg him to invite other south africans b'se it's so shameful to engage with a single person while you are many.[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]

eliakeem · Jul 11, 2017

Iconoclastes said:
.....
all these, including insufficient availabity of social amenities and widespread poverty is enuff to categorize such a place as a slum!

Kibera, Khayelitsha, etc are categorized as informal settlements! Google it!

Informal settlements are slums! Now, if u are telling me that informal settlements and unplanned settlements mean more or less the same thing...it's confusing, very confusing.

Your argument is that is that unplanned settlements are marked by the availability of some descent dwellings amongst the many poor houses, so on that basis alone they are not considered as slums, regardless of the fact that the majority of the residents- the ones living in the poor houses have no running water, toilets, electricity, security, medical facilities, widespread poverty....but arent these the characteristics of slums!

Kibera slum in Nairobi is not entirely comprised of shanties. My former boss lives in Kibera, not a ramshack, but in a very big house in a gated community. The estate is called Onyonka (google Onyonka estate, images), it is in Kibera. And it is not the only one.

Otiende estate is near Kibera, so is Ngei. Madaraka Estate is in Kibera. Woodly Estate....borders the slum. Sandwitched btwn Otiende and the Langata cemetary is this other estate I have no idea what it is called....it is still part of the larger Kibera. The modern NHC housing.....very adjacent to Kibera
slum.

So based on your argument, isnt Kibera then more of an "unplanned settlement" than a slum, than say Tandale in Dar?

Brother be serious. Is your former boss living in kibera?? How could he/she survived with such crime rate!!!!???

Iconoclastes · Jul 11, 2017

eliakeem said:
Brother be serious. Is your former boss living in kibera?? How could he/she survived with such crime rate!!!!???

You are deviating from the topic.

No, crime and violence is not the order of the day in Kibera. Tgere are sections of Kibera srea inhabited by the wealthy and are well guarded.

t-time · Jul 11, 2017

Wembe1 said:
Good morning good people. Why does not T-time invite another South African to the forum. Till then I assume that he is a Danganyikan out to trash Kenya because clearly they are beat in the Dar vs Nai thread

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invite my fellow countrymen to flood this forum with our development and you will cry . i invited myself on this forum to what was happening and all i got was kenyans vs tanzanians and belittling them and i just had to make you guys taste your medicine by belittling you and your country

t-time · Jul 11, 2017

kadoda11 said:
you should beg him to invite other south africans b'se it's so shameful to engage with a single person while you are many.[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]

problem is they catch feelings when i post south african developments while they have been boring you with the repetition of nairobi photos n some old building and ugly looking roads. imagine if i had to invite to other ppl from sa ,we were gon turn this forum upside down with pics like this
is there tunnels in kenya ?

t-time · Jul 11, 2017

NairobiWalker said:
.,.....and out of all Africans, only a South African decided to come in full force with insults and disparaging a whole country for an article that speaks about infrastructure growth and not the status quo? So much for a people that claims to 'concentrate on themselves'.

yes a south african decided to show up and put you in your lane you were starting to get off it and luckily i had to rescue the situation and put a reality check

Wembe1 · Jul 11, 2017

t-time said:
yes a south african decided to show up and put you in your lane you were starting to get off it and luckily i had to rescue the situation and put a reality check

Invite another person. Stop being a sole keyboard warrior

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NairobiWalker · Jul 11, 2017

t-time said:
yes a south african decided to show up and put you in your lane you were starting to get off it and luckily i had to rescue the situation and put a reality check

You're no South African.

NairobiWalker · Jul 11, 2017

t-time said:
yes a south african decided to show up and put you in your lane you were starting to get off it and luckily i had to rescue the situation and put a reality check

You're no South African.

t-time · Jul 11, 2017

NairobiWalker said:
This guy has issues. Nobody even denies the fact that SA is miles ahead of Kenya in infrastructure. It seems that the guy didn't either read the article or understand it or is just one of those keyboard warriors with nothing else to do in their lives.

go back to crying your time is up . you were running naked here tellin us how nairobi is the ish now i feed u evidence that nairobi will be turned in another normal city had it been in SA now u crying . from now on when you post nairobi photos include imaginary photos cos this real one are aint nothing to whats on the ground

Wembe1 · Jul 11, 2017

Nairobi is better than All your cities save for Joburg

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t-time · Jul 11, 2017

Wembe1 said:
Nairobi is better than All your cities save for Joburg

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lmao fool do u hear yourself ? probably never been to nairobi this fool

COLLOH-MZII RELOADED · Jul 11, 2017

t-time said:
lmao fool do u hear yourself ? probably never been to nairobi this fool

Why don't you support your nation Tanzania

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mombasite gabriel · Jul 11, 2017

Jay-z`s 4:44 album is the best thing happening in the world right now....you all should stop this silly exchange and listen to some really nice music

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