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Where Did These Guns Come From?

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by Ab-Titchaz, Mar 19, 2009.

  1. Ab-Titchaz

    Ab-Titchaz Content Manager Staff Member

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    Wakuu,

    East Africa and the Great Lakes Region is awash with guns and I was
    wondering where are they coming from maana the numbers are just
    too high nowadays.

    There must be a 'merchant of death' lurking somewhere.Wakenya
    wameamua kuchoma moto all illegal guns (whatever that means).

    Meanwhile I was wondering why these Kenyan officials decided to
    do this at Uhuru gardens which is in the City of Nairobi.The grass is too
    dry from the pics and anything could happen.'Afu pia wanaletea
    watu tafash za kujikinga na moshi right in the middle of the town.

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    A GSU officer guards illegal firearms set to be destroyed by the government at Uhuru Gardens in Nairobi on Tuesday. Provincial Administration assistant minister Simeon Lesirma officiated the destruction.


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    Provincial Administration assistant minister Simeon Lesirma officiated the burning of illegal fire arms at Uhuru Gardens in Nairobi on Tuesday. Also present was Police Commissioner Gen Hussein Ali.


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    A GSU officer looks at illegal firearms that were destroyed at Uhuru Gardens in Nairobi on Tuesday


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    Fire fighters on standby at Nairobi's Uhuru Gardens where illegal firearms were destroyed by the government on Tuesday.


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    A police fire brigade on stand by as some of the 2,490 illegal fire arms go up in flames during a destruction exercise at Uhuru Gardens on Tuesday.

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    HellFire20 Senior Member

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    First of all the location is Uhuru Gardens not Uhuru Park.The gardens are not in CBD but are are far off town along Langata road on your way to Nairobi National park.
    Secondly i think i can see a fire engine and firemen in the background.
    These are guns that cant be redeemed i doubt they would burn firearms that are in better conditions.
     
  3. Ab-Titchaz

    Ab-Titchaz Content Manager Staff Member

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    Sample these comments...

    Submitted by SJ502
    Posted March 18, 2009 06:50 AM

    Its comforting to see three city Firemen alert and ready for action... hopefully that hose pipe has sufficient water. It's very dry around here and with Carnivore, Supermarket,Barracks and a busy airport close by...I would be very careful starting a gun bonfire and at noontime! Life happens...

    Submitted by wapet
    Posted March 18, 2009 10:02 AM

    This is just but a another of a public show.there is absolutely no need of destroying the product while the process of production is done nothing about.The government should think of blocking the avenues through which the guns get into the wrong hands instead of just enjoying a scene of their destruction.


    Submitted by SJ502
    Posted March 18, 2009 07:05 AM

    Why buy new and expensive arms from Ukraine again in these hard times? Clean and service these WMD...they must have been working the last time some crooks used them!​
     
  4. Nduka

    Nduka JF-Expert Member

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    Yale yale ya afande Tosi kwenda kwenye operations za majambazi na waandishi wa habari.
     
  5. Smatta

    Smatta JF-Expert Member

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    AB- now you are posting comments from blogs and expect us to take them as the truth? Iam positive that the guns are obsolete, and cant be used.. and of course its a public show, we ve been doing it for years..
     
  6. Ab-Titchaz

    Ab-Titchaz Content Manager Staff Member

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    Smatta,

    No I don't expect you to take them as the truth. Those
    are postings by fellow Kenyans expressing their opinion
    in the Daily Nation.

    I doubt if those guns were obsolete as they had been
    redeemed from criminals so to speak.And you are not
    wrong to say Kenya mumezoea hizi 'shows'..serikali ya
    usanii!

    Meanwhile the question remains, where are these guns
    coming from? Shouldn't the authorities be more concerned
    about how to stop the channels through which they come
    through other than these shows you are talking about?
     
  7. Lusajo

    Lusajo JF-Expert Member

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    Sijui sana lakini unajua wakati wa ile kasheshe ya uchaguzi wa Kenya hata hapa US kuna wa-Kenya ambao walikuwa wanawatumia ndugu zao hela ili wanunue silaha kutoka Somalia (Maana jamaa ni Mkikuyu na alikuwa anasema kwamba lazima waue wa-jaluo woote kwa sababu hii ni zamu yao na wao wamenyanyaswa sana) whatever that means. Kwa hiyo nadhani baadhi ya hizo silaha ziliingia wakati wa machafuko ya uchaguzi maana kuna watu walisema lazima wajilinde.
     
  8. Baba_Enock

    Baba_Enock JF-Expert Member

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    Ab-Tichaz,

    They are flowing IN from Somalia
    ! And knowing that there so many Somalis who are well connected with Kenya's Security Agencies, there is no doubt that it is as easy as ABC to get the weapons down to Kenya!
     
  9. Smatta

    Smatta JF-Expert Member

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    If a Kenyan hustler can cross the border to tanzania with a G-3, an AK 47 rifle, and grenades, to commit a bank robbery, what makes Kenya an exception.. We are sarrounded by warring countries, so getting a gun is not a hard task, and I also know that if I want to purchase a gun in TZ, it will be equally easy..
    If there is a will, there is definitely a way..
     
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    MzalendoHalisi JF-Expert Member

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    hellfire20,

    1. This is the message of the day! You have started my day well..it is a good observation!

    2. Our region is full of amunitions..from Rwanda genocode, from Burundi Crisis, from FDLR of DRC, from Southern Sudan ..from Koni in Uganda and of course from Somalia. Then pirates from Somalia get so much money to buy modern weapons for piracy activities..the same guns get in Kenya and in other countries in AE!

    3.If such arms are obselete..I dont know. Do you remember the battle in Arusha involving majambazi from Kenya with such sophiscated weapons.. Tz police had to run away and call the Army as thiers could not match the majambazi's? The battle lasted for about 5 hours until hwen the army threatened to demolish the house when the majambazi gave in??
     
  11. Ab-Titchaz

    Ab-Titchaz Content Manager Staff Member

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    Baba_Enock,

    Nakubaliana nawe kabisa kuhusu hio point.There was a time it
    was safe to walk in the city of Nairobi lakini siku hizi noma.Kila
    mtu ana bastola uadhani wild wild west.Wasomali wamejaa Kenya
    kama wakimbizi na walikuja na silaha ambazo kwamba wanauza bei
    rahisi kinoma.Kisha the Kenyan security agencies have been
    compromised kama ulivyosema....na mafisadi tele.
     
  12. Ab-Titchaz

    Ab-Titchaz Content Manager Staff Member

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    What is the purpose of this statement?Hebu clarify mawazo yako.
     
  13. Smatta

    Smatta JF-Expert Member

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    What am saying is that the problem is not endemic Kenya only, I can access a gun in Bongo with as much ease as i can access the same in Kenya. Believe it or not, if you had a media with as much zeal as the ones we have in Kenya, am sure you wouldn't be screaming your lungs out.
     
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