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Tumefikaje Hapa?

Discussion in 'Habari na Hoja mchanganyiko' started by Mzee Mwanakijiji, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    Je tumefika mahali ambapo tulitaka kufika kama Taifa? Je hapa tulipo ndipo wazazi wetu waliposimama kulilia uhuru na kuwa Taifa walitarajia ndipo tungekuwa? Je hapa tulipo ndipo kwa haki yote ndiyo hasa tumepaswa kuwa na siyo zaidi? Je kuna kitu ambacho tungekifanya ambacho kingetufanya tuwe zaidi ya hapa tulipo? Nazungumzia kitaifa katika nyanja zote; elimu, afya, miundo mbinu, huduma za jamii, n.k je tumefikia mahali bora zaidi na tuone fahari au kuna maeneo ambayo hatuna budi kujiuliza kwanini hatujafika mbali?

    Ukiangalia changamoto zote tulizo nazo leo hii, bila ya shaka kuna makosa yamefanyika au mapungufu fulani ambayo yawezekana kabisa yametuzuia kufikia pale ambapo tungefikia kama tusingekuwa na makosa au mapungufu hayo. Unafikiri imekuwaje tumefikia hapa tulipo? Na tufanye nini ili tujinasue?
     
  2. Gembe

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    tumefika hapa kwasababu ya fikra bora za Mwalimu,Nadahni Miiko ya Uongozi aliyoiweka Mwalimu ilichangia kulinda Rasrimali nyingi za nchi yetu,alipokuja Mwinyi akacha Dira aliyoiweka MWalimu na Alikuja Namwelekeo wa chama kwa iaka 15 ijayo.hiyo ilikuwa 1990,Mampo chama kilianza kubadilika na kuacha kuwa cha wafanyakazi na wakulima,Mwalimu kwa huruma mwaka 1995 katika sherehe ya Mei Mosi akatukumbusha pale Mbeya,Tangu lini CCM imeacha kwa ya wafanyakazi na wakulima?
    Mkapa alikuja na sera ya uwazi,Ubeapari ukaingia,Rushwa kubwa ndio ikashamili,Mashirika mengi yakauzawa..ila aliacha msingi mzuri katika Kutunza kiasi cha pesa hazina..ALiyepewa alikuwa naa Ari mpya ila na Nguvu mpya ya Kusaini mikataba ya kududmiza zaidi kama ya Richmond na Buzwagi.
    Kwa kifupi tumefika hapa sababu ya jambo moja,Amani ya nchi yetu..
     
  3. Nyani Ngabu

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    We need to have a sustained indignation going into next elections and the elections after, and on and on in order kujinasua from the current state
     
  4. Mwanamalundi

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    We need to re-examine and re-define our priorities. The problem at the moment is that we dont know what are our major priorities.

    Tupunguze warsha, makongamano, semina, mashangingi, etc. Tuache ubabaishaji. Tufanye kazi kwa bidii. Tutangulize mbele maslahi ya taifa kuliko maslahi binafsi. There is no quick fix solution.

     
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    bila Semina Wafanyakazi wa serikali hawawezi kuishi,hizi ndizo posho zao..wewe kwa mshahara wa TGS D. unadhani utaenda wapi??
    hili siliungi mkono

    Warsha ziwepo ila ziwe zinapimwa kutokana na mafanikio yake!!
     
  6. Mwanamalundi

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    Hebu tazama huyu waziri sijui anaongea kitu gani hapa??? Someni huyo waziri anachoongea hapo juu, mtaelewa nilikuwa namaanisha nini katika posti yangu iliyopita.
     
  7. Gamba la Nyoka

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    Ni dhahiri ndugu MWKJJ kwamba hali tuliyokuwa nayo, ni hali mbaya na inatisha sana

    kwa uchache wa niliyoyagudua hali yetu ni mbaya kwa sbabu zifuatazo.

    1:Bado Watanzania hatujazitumia nguvu zetu ipasavyo
    Nikiwa nimeishi katika mikoa ya pembezoni mwa ziwa victoria ,nimeshuhudia jinsi mikoa hiyo ilivyokuwa na mvua nyingi na ya kutosha, lakini jiulize ni kwa namna gani tunazitumia mvua hizo?. almost ni mara moja tu kwa mwaka mtu analima kwa nguvu, na siku zilizobaki anakula alivyovitunza kwenye ghala au kuuza ,misimu mingine ya mvua mtu wala halimi .ghafla ikitokea msukosuko akiba haitoshi, laiti tungekuwa tunalima kisawasawa ,tungepata chakula cha kutosha na pia tungeuza vile vya kuuzwa.

    2:Kuiga mfumo wa Elimu wa Wazungu
    Chukulia pale mlimani Kozi kama ya Computer Engineering, Computer engineer anaweza kudesign na kutengeneza computer/component zake, lazima ziwepo lab za nguvu na vifaa kiujumla, Wazungu wanavimudu vitu hivyo na nchi zao zina makampuni kibao ya wanafunzi wao kufanyia field, sisi kwetu mwanafunzi wa computer engineering anakwenda kufanya Field Celtel/TTCL, jiulize wapi na wapi tutaweza kupata maengineer walioiva kikweli kweli?

    3:Mazingira mazima ya Ukuaji wa Mtoto ni Utatanishi
    hatuna sera ya kuelezea tufanye nini kwa mtoto wetu kila anapopiga hatua ya ukuaji.
    Jukumu la namna gani mtoto alelewe limeachiwa mzazi peke yake, hatuna sera ya kitaifa yenye kutoa muongozo wa kumsaidia mzazi kuonyesha kwamba kila mtoto akifikia hatua fulani basi afundishwe vitu kadhaa, au mtoto katika hatua hiyo ya ukuaji awe anajua vitu kadhaa, mathalani kuna viwango standard kwamba mtoto akiwa na miezi kadhaa lazima awe na uzito fulani.lakini hakuna viwango vilivyowekwa kumsaidia mzazi kumuongoza katika kukuza viwango vya ufahamu vya watoto wao. Yaani imekuwa kila mzazi/mlezi na lwake. sasa mtoto huyu ambaye kutokana na kutokupewa mwongozo imara wa ufahamu bora(ukiondoa elimu ya darasani ambayo ni dhahiri peke yake haitoshi)anakuwa hajaandaliwa kuwa askari mahiri wa kupambana ipasavyo katika challenge nyingi za maisha, maana kuna mambo mengi, kujiajiri, kujilinda na maradhi ya maambukizi, kuepuka uvunjaji wa sheria, ndoa, n.k

    4:Uongozi kugeuka kuwa ni biashara
    Mtu haiingii katika siasa kutokana na uchungu wa Wananchi, mtu anaingia katika siasa kwa utashi kwamba akipata uongozi aitumie nafasi yake kujinufaisha, kwa kujipa tenda, kuvizia posho na luxury nyingine, kuingia mikataba mibovu ili mradi awe amekula, n.k

    hayo ni baadhi tu
     
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    Hiki ni kiini macho cha CCM na sirikali! Ari mpya, nguvu mpya na kasi mpya na Maisha bora kwa kila Mtanzania sasa wamekuja na mpya wakati zile zilizotangazwa kwenye kampeni ya 2005 hatujui zimeishia wapi!
     
  9. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    Nitarudi na kuangalia hoja zenu na hapa tuchambua kwa kina nataka niandike in few weeks makala of the same title na mawazo yenu mengi nitayatumia... la msingi ni kujibu swali, "what went wrong".. na "tufanye nini tujinasue"..
     
  10. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    Dr. Ngasongwa na timu yake.. can I say something please kwenye hilo kongamano katika kuwachochea watu.. ? au ni kwa wale walio nyumbani tu?
     
  11. Mwanamalundi

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    Mshahara ni matokeo ya tija. Sasa kama nyie mishahara yenu inatokana na warsha, semina na makongamano, No wonder we are where we are now.
     
  12. Kitila Mkumbo

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    I think we have given too much importance to political leadership at the expense of other sectors. Mtu yeyote haoni kama anafanikiwa kama hajashika madaraka ya kisiasa. Hata wale wanaofanya kazi vizuri katika sector zingine wakionekana tu kuwa ni wachapa kazi wanaanza kuchochewa wewe unafaa kuwa mbunge, waziri, n.k. So politics has become the measure indicator of a successful person in our country. Tukaharibu zaidi pale tulipoamua kuwapa mishahara mikubwa zaidi wanasiasa kuliko watumishi wengi wote wa serikali. Hapa UK, Waziri Mkuu anashika namba 148 katika watumishi wa serikali wanaopokea mishara mikubwa; wa juu ni watumishi wa mashirikia ya umma kama Posta. Kwetu, sijui hata mshahara wa Rais ni shilingi ngapi,lakini nasikia hakatwi hata kodi!

    As result: hata wasio na sifa na hawastahili kuwa viongozi wanakimbilia huko na wale wenye sifa na wanastahili hawapati nafasi. Kama alivyosema Plato: "philosophers alone are fit to govern a country, because they have two important qualities: 1) they have the ability to govern, and 2) they do not want to do so"! So, you need to identify philosophers and convince them to seek leadership positions. After their tenure they will happily relinguish power and go back to their philospophical work.

    So there we go, something is wrong with our system of getting leadership, this is where we messed up. We have to sort out this mess first and foremost, mengine yataongezewa tu!
     
  13. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    Mzee Kitila hapo umesema jambo moja kubwa sana na nyongeza yake ni kuwa kuna sababu ya watu kuingia kwenye siasa.. it seems that it pays more! Wakati huku kwa mjomba Bush anayegombea Urais basically anachukua a big pay cut kutoka sekta binafsi. NI kwa sababu hiyo watu kama kina Mengi kuingia kwenye siasa it'll be a major paycut.. lakini mkufunzi wa Chuo Kikuu akiingia Ubunge.. it is a major pay boost.. !
     
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    ingekuwa uzuri ungeuliza ,tumefikishwaje hapa? , hatukufika wenyewe bali tumefikishwa , na nani? tumsakeni mchawi.ila pia kumbuka kwamba tanzania haijawahi kuwa ni sehemu bora ya kuishi tangu tupate fahamu zetu,ukitoa amani na utulivu ambayo ndiyo ngonjera tunayojivunia.hatujawahi kuwa na maendeleo ya kujitapa mbele za watu.hivyo tusiseme tulifikaje hapa? wakati hata hiyo safari ya maendeleo mpaka leo kwa taifa la tanzania ni ndoto.
    ni mzee wa porojo, under age
     
  15. Mzee Mwanakijiji

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    kama tulifikishwa basi tundio tumefika.. so tumefikaje hapa aidha kwa kufikishwa au kwa kuacha tufikishwe..
     
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    kwa kuongezea kidogo,
    Swala la maamuzi makubwa ya maendeleo na mstakabali wa Taifa letu kufanyika/kuamuliwa kisiasa badala ya utaalamu! (decision maker)

    Hili nitatizo kubwa lilo tufikisha hapa tulipo, mfano swala la |Rada.. ilipo pingwa waziri husika akipata veto ya raisi akasema hata kama tunakula nyasi lazima inunuliwe!

    Mfano wa 2, swala la mfumuko wa bei wa sasa, wataalamu wa HAZINA walipo shauri mafuta yasiguswe kwani yataleta shida ya mfumuko wa bei.. Muungwana na Zakhia, kwa mamlaka yao na maamzi ya kisiasa badala ya kufata ushauri wa kitaalamu wakasema hapo ndo pakuleta hela haraka kwani kila mtu lazima atumie mafuta!

    Nyote ni mashahidi kutozingatia utaalamu kulipotufikisha, achilia mbali mikataba mibovu kama wa IPTL ambayo wataalamu wetu wamekuwa wakiipinga ( Mfano Rutabanzibwa?) lakini wanaishia kudharauliwa na kutupeleka kusiko na hakika ndiko walikotufikisha!
     
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  19. Ben Saanane

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    Kwa kweli sisi tumefanya makosa ambayo bado tunayarudia,kwa mfano Suala la uzawa katika kumiliki na kuendesha biashara halipewi kipaumbele na sekta ya Viwanda na Biashara.Tuchukulie mfano wa Asian Tigers mfano Singapore au India,hpa huwezi kuja mwekazaji kutoka nje ukainvest zaidi ya asilimia 50 na kumiliki kampuni,wanachofanya ni kumpa maximum 50 percent foreigner na wao kumiliki asilimia zilizobaki hat kama mwananchi huyo hana uwezo wa kuinvest kufikia asilimia hizo serikali itaingilia kati na kumuwezesha huyo mzawa kwa mkataba maalum na serikali.

    Ndio maana hata ukiangalia matajiri wakubwa wa huku kama akina Anil Ambani,Mahindra na akina Ratan Tata wamesaidiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa na serikali yao hata pale inapotokea kuna ushindani wa kizabuni na makampuni makubwa ya nje kama.

    Suala la Elimu,
    Ukiangalia nchi nyingine kama Kenya wanapiga hatua kubwa kimaendeleo na wanazidi kutuacha kila kukicha kwa sababu suala la elimu linapewa kipaumbele sana ndio maana ukiangalia Kenya leo hii hakuna state utakayoenda huku India bila kukuta wanafunzi wa Kikenya waliojazana kwenye vyuo vikuu mbalimbali kwa sababu kipindi cha nyuma hawa watu walikua wanaleta wanafunzi wao hujku India na wanafunzi walipofika wakatengeneza mazingira ya kuwavuta wengine kuja kusoma huku kwani kuna vyuo vya bei rahisi sana.Hata wale ambao gharama za maisha zinakua ngumu huku huwa kuna utaratibu maalum kwenye ubalozi wao wa kusaidia wanafunzi walioelemewa kitu ambacho ni tofauti kabisa na hapo kwetu


    Pia ,hatujawa na uwezo wa kusimamia na kuendesha raslimali zetu kikamilifu kwa sababu ya kuwa na uongozi mbovu usiokuwa na dhamira za dhati katika kuleta mabadiliko ya haraka katika sekta ya mali asili.Kwa mfano hatujawa na taasisi madhubuti za kutangaza raslimali zetu kama Milima,hifadhi nk. katika nyanja za kimataifa.Kama kwenye mashirika ya Ndege kama KLM,British airways,Singapore na kushirikiana na mawakala wengine wa kimataifa ndio maana Kenya wanatumia udhaifu huo kutuibia watalii wetu etc
     
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