So Violent people on earth?

Waberoya · Dec 4, 2009

Babylon said:
Mnara huo .wakristo wakweli ndio mnawasikia hao.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDHK0VNVnYw&feature=related
Hii ineonesha jinsi gani watoto weusi waliokuwemo ndani ya chuchu walivyopigwa moto wakiwa wanasoma Bible .anyway ukipenda chongo unita makengeza ,endleni hivyo hivyo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHvD_lyYzT0&feature=related

I do believe that I am free to tell what I know, I can not by anyhow controvert what you have presented here.

The question is why the killed kids who were reading bibles?? who posted this information in youtube.

What are they gaining by doing this??

Nimemweleza Tumain hapo juu, kuwa haujui ukristo na wakristo!!!

Tangu lini wakatoliki wakawa ni wakristo?????????????????????????????

I am here in Canada, I have talked to many Catholic they are clearly saying they are not Christian.

Wakatoliki wameua sana wakristo walipokuwa wanahubiri habari njema ya Yesu, ili kufuta habari za Yesu waliwaua sana watakatifu( that period is called Dark ages) interestingly all these were predicted in the bible!
walainzisha dini yao inayofanana na Ukristo! biblia yao iko tofauti with lots of editing,ubatizo wakaleta mpya( wa maji kidogo).

Mpaka mimi nakua biblia zilikuwa haziruhusiwi kusomwa ndani ya kanisa la katoliki na muumini wa kwaida! why? by doing so they were worrying the guy will know the truth.Hii ndio imewafanya wawe na biblia yao!

So in christioan we know who is real christian and who is not, nyie mlio nje mnajua wote lao moja! katika biblia kila unabii wa mpinga kristo unaangukia kwa Papa!

Nakueleza hili ili ujue deep inside uislamu na ukatoliki hauna tofauti kubwa n ndio huwa mnajadili muungane, sijuia ili unajua mtanzania mwenzangu!

Kumbuka pia catholic ni serikali haswa, they will do anything to rule!

Catholic and Muslim they have many many similarities. I have vast of documents to ptove this, but take this as an assignment.Ndio maana nimecheka kuona unaowasema hapa ni wakatoliki ukisema ni wakristo wakiua wakristo wanaosoma biblia, haukufikiria kwa nini?

Niko tayari kupigwa mawe

Waberoya · Dec 4, 2009

Tumaini na Babylon angalia wenzenu wanavyouliza maswali

''Muslim vs the catholic and christian religion who are the real saints''
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081121063709AACvbVH

Ona alivyowatenga wakatoliki!

Note that I am not here denying all wrong that American did especially in Africa.

I am here defending christian religion has got nothing to do with those violence! no where that someone have been taught in the church to do vioelence never!

Benedict (right) and Ceric at the Vatican forum
November 07, 2008
(RFE/RL) -- Two years after Pope Benedict XVI angered Muslims by suggesting that Islam is inherently violent, Catholic and Muslim leaders from around the world have now vowed to fight terrorism and protect religious rights.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, hujajua jinsi gani wakristo walivyomkebehi papa kwa kusema nyie ni violent, wakati nao ni same story!

Nadhani unaanza kujua taratibu hizi dini.

Katoliki ya sasa imebadilika sana, people are bit free na kuna interaction kubwa ywa wakatoliki wa kisasa na wakristo!! but back to the history... I can not tell...

MaxShimba · Dec 4, 2009

Babylon said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21XWx7GCTmE&feature=related

White man, black man ting. Nah kristianity.

MaxShimba · Dec 4, 2009

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MaxShimba · Dec 4, 2009

Babylon said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21XWx7GCTmE&feature=related

Tumain said:
babylon,
Asante we will prove bit by bit that...the most violent, arrogant, racist, and cruel people on earth happens to be from countries with large christians population.

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Waberoya · Dec 4, 2009

Tumaini wakati unasoma post za Maxshimba hivi lengo lako la kuanzisha hii thread ilikuwa kujifunza, kuhukumu, kutupa taarifa au???

Maana maovu ya mwanadamu ni mengi, if someone will reveal word-word from Quran about violence will you handle it??

A common surah that muslims like to use when doing da'wa is surah 5:32. Well, we need to read 5:33 and 5:34 - that outlines the violence against non-muslims very specifically. It is not me who states this - it is the koran.

005.033
YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
PICKTHAL: The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
SHAKIR: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,

005.034
YUSUFALI: Except for those who repent before they fall into your power: in that case, know that Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: Except those who repent before you have them in your power; so know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Can you kindly excerpts the same from bible??

And then this surah is very interesting: surah 59. The whole chapter is full of violence against the non-muslims. Oh well, like I posted above - the koran is full of violence. It isn't me saying these things - it is only me showing everyone what the koran says. If we listen to the muslims doing da'wa we will never know what is in the koran against non-muslims

Waberoya · Dec 4, 2009

Cruelty in the Quran

We have prepared for disbelievers manacles and carcans and a raging fire.--76:4

Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6
Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10
A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24
Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90
"Guard yourselves against a day when no soul will in aught avail another, nor will intercession be accepted from it, nor will compensation be received from it, nor will they be helped."
There will come a day when Allah will refuse all prayers and help no one. 2:48
Allah brags about drowning the Egyptian army. 2:50
"Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:81
If you believe in only part of the Scripture, you will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85
Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96
For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104
For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114
"And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire." (They are the non-muslims.) 2:119
Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126
The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162
Allah is severe punishment! 2:165-6
They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167
Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174
How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175
"Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244
Believers must retaliate. Those who transgress will have a painful doom. 2:178
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2
"Guard us from the doom of Fire." 2:201
Those who fail in their duty to Allah are proud and sinful. They will all go to hell. 2:206
War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216
Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217
Those who marry unbelievers will burn in the Fire. 2:221
Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257
"Those who swallow usury ... are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:275
Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4
Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10
Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12
"Guard us from the punishment of Fire." 3:16
Non-muslims will be punished by Allah for their nonbelief. 3:19
Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21
"They [Christians and Jews] say: The Fire will not touch us save for a certain number of days. That which they used to invent hath deceived them regarding their religion." (The Fire will burn them forever.) 3:24
Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77
All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85
Apostates will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:86-88
Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91
"Ye were upon the brink of an abyss of fire, and He did save you from it." 3:103
Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6
Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116
The Fire is prepared for disbelievers. 3:131
We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire 3:151
If you die fighting for Allah, you'll be rewarded in heaven. 3:157
"Is one who followeth the pleasure of Allah as one who hath earned condemnation from Allah, whose habitation is the Fire?"
Unbelievers will burn forever in the Fire. 3:162
"Think not of those, who are slain in the way of Allah, as dead."
(Quoted by Osama bin Laden in his 'letter to America' regarding the 11 September 2001 attacks.) 3:169-171
Theirs will be an awful doom. 3:176
Disbelievers do not harm Allah, but will have a painful doom. 3:177
Disbelievers will have a shameful doom. 3:178
Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter paradise, he indeed is triumphant." (The rest will burn forever in the Fire.) 3:185
Those who brag about doing good will go to hell. 3:188
"Preserve us from the doom of Fire." 3:191
"Our Lord! Whom Thou causest to enter the Fire: him indeed Thou hast confounded. For evil-doers there will be no helpers." 3:192
Those who die fighting for Allah will go to heaven. 3:195
Disbelievers will go to Hell. 3:196
Don't steal from orphans (or Allah will burn you forever in hell). 4:10
Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will be burnt with fire and suffer a painful doom. 4:14
For the disbelievers and those who make a last-minute conversion, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:18
"We shall cast him into Fire, and that is ever easy for Allah." 4:30
For disbelievers, We prepare a shameful doom. 4:37
"Sanction is given unto those who fight because they have been wronged."
Quoted by Osama bin Laden in his 'letter to America' as a justification for the 11 September 2001 attacks. 4:39
Hell is sufficient for their burning. 4:55
Unbelievers will be tormented forever with fire. When their skin is burned off, a fresh skin will be provided. 4:56
Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars. 4:74
Believers fight for Allah; disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil. 4:76
Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89
If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91
Believers who kill believers will face the awful doom of hell. 4:93
"Their habitation will be hell, an evil journey's end." 4:97
Those who oppose the messenger and become unbelievers will go to hell. 4:115
Allah will lead them astray and they will go to hell. 4:119-121
Those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe and disbelieve again will never be forgiven by Allah. 4:137
For the hypocrites there will be a painful doom. 4:138
Allah will gather hypocrites and disbelievers into hell. 4:140
The hypocrites will be in the lowest part of hell and no one will help them there. 4:145
You must believe everything Allah and his messengers tell you. Those who don't are disbelievers and will face a painful doom. 4:150-151
For the wrongdoing Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:160-1
God will guide disbelievers down a road that leads to everlasting hell. 4:168-169
If you don't do good works, Allah will punish you with a painful doom. 4:173
Those who deny Islam will be losers in the Hereafter. 5:5
Disbelievers are the rightful owners of Hell. 5:10
"The owners of the fire. That is the reward of evil-doers." 5:29
Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom. 5:33
Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 5:36
Disbelievers will want to come out of the Fire, but will not. Their will be a lasting doom. 5:37
Cut off the hands of thieves. It is an exemplary punishment from Allah. 5:38
Allah makes some people sin. He will not cleanse their hearts. They will have ignominy in this world, and in the Hereafter an awful doom. 5:41
Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, and tooth for tooth. 5:45
Christians will be burned in the Fire. 5:72
Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 5:73
Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah. 5:80
Disbelievers will be owners of hell-fire. 5:86
Allah will test believers to see if they are afraid. Those who fail a second test will suffer a a painful doom. 5:94
After agreeing to send down a table of food from heaven, Jesus warns his disciples that will catch holy hell if they ever stop believing. 5:115
Those who deny the truth of Islam will be punished by Allah. 6:5
"See the nature of the consequence for the rejecters!" 6:11
Many generations have been destroyed by Allah. 6:6
Disbelievers will say when they see the Fire that they would have believed if they had known the truth. But they are all liars. 6:27-28
"Evil-doers flout the revelations of Allah." 6:33
Allah will torment those how deny his revelations. 6:49
Those who disbelieve will be forced to drink boiling water, and will face a painful doom. 6:70
When nonbelievers die, the angels will deliver to them doom and degradation. 6:93
Allah allows some to disbelieve in the afterlife, and to take pleasure in their disbelief, so that he can torment them forever after they die. 6:113
Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 6:125
Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 6:128
Let the idolaters kill their children. It is Allah's will. 6:137
The worst thing anyone can do is deny the revelations of Allah. Those who do so will be awared an evil doom. 6:157
How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon, Our terror came unto them. 7:4-5
Allah banishes Iblis and promises to fill hell with those who are mislead by him. 7:18
Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire. 7:36
Entire nations have entered the Fire. Some get a double torment. 7:38
"Taste the doom for what ye used to earn." 7:39
Disbelievers will be excluded from heaven. Theirs will be a bed of hell. 7:40-41
Those in the fire will be taunted by those in the Garden. "So how's it going down there? Are you enjoying the warmth of the Fire?" 7:44
Those in the Garden will plead with Allah not to be cast into the Fire. 7:47
Those in the Fire will cry out to those in heaven, saying: "Pour water on us." But Allah has forbidden that to disbelievers. 7:50
Allah drowned everyone on earth (except Noah and his family) because they disbelieved. 7:64
Those who believe incorrectly will face the terror and wrath of Allah. 7:71
"We cut the root of those who denied Our revelations and were not believers." 7:72
Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:78
Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah except Lot and his daughters.
7:83-84
"So the earthquake seized them."
Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:90-91
"How can I sorrow for a people that rejected (truth)?"
Shu'eyb tells the Allah's victims that they deserved to die for rejecting Islam. 7:93
"Then We seized them unawares, when they perceived not."
Unbelievers are never safe from Allah's wrath. 7:95-99
"We straitened Pharaoh's folk with famine."
Allah sent a famine on all of the Egyptians to punish Pharaoh. 7:130
"So We sent against them the flood and the locusts and the vermin and the frogs and the blood - a succession of clear signs." 7:133
"We drowned them in the sea: because they denied Our revelations." 7:136
Those who worship the calf will suffer terror and humiliation from Allah. 7:152
"But those of them who ... changed the word ... We sent down upon them wrath from heaven." 7:162
"Why preach ye to a folk whom Allah is about to destroy or punish with an awful doom?" 7:164
"When they forgot that whereof they had been reminded, We ... visited [them] with dreadful punishment." 7:165
Allah will punish the disbelieving Jews until the Day of Resurrection. 7:167
Allah has already sent many people and jinn to hell. They were worse than cows: they couldn't see or hear and were neglectful. 7:179
"Allah ... cut the root of the disbelievers."
Allah destroyed the unbelievers. 8:7
Allah will throw fear into the hearts of the disbelievers, and smite their necks and fingers. 8:12
Disbelievers will be tormented in the Fire. 8:14
When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 8:15-16
Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17
Taste of the doom because ye disbelieve. 8:35
Those who disbelieve will be gathered into hell. 8:36
"The wicked will He place piece upon piece, and heap them all together, and consign them unto hell." 8:37
The angels smite the face and backs of disbelievers, saying: "Taste the punishment of burning!" 8:50
Don't let the disbelievers think they can escape. They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah. 8:59-60
Had it not been for an ordinance of Allah which had gone before, an awful doom had come upon you." 8:68
He [Allah] gave thee [Muhammad] power over them."
Allah gave Muhammad slaves as war booty. 8:70-1
Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve. 9:3
Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. 9:5
Don't let idolaters tend the sanctuaries. Their works are in vain and they will be burned in the Fire. 9:17
"Count ye the slaking of a pilgrim's thirst ... as (equal to the worth of) him who believeth in Allah and the Last Day, and striveth in the way of Allah?"
Helping the poor is not as important as believing in Islam and fighting in holy wars. 9:19
Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis. 9:34
Those who are tormented in the Fire will have their foreheads and backs branded. 9:35
If you refuse to fight, Allah will afflict you with a painful doom. 9:39
Disbelievers go to hell. 9:49
"Allah will afflict you with a doom from Him or at our hands." 9:52
Those who vex the Prophet, for them there is a painful doom. 9:60
Those who oppose Allah and His messenger will burn in the fire of hell. 9:63
Allah promises hypocrites and disbelievers the fire of hell. Allah curses them. They will have a lasting torment. 9:68
Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 9:73
Allah will afflict disbelievers with a painful doom in this world and the Hereafter. 9:74
"Theirs will be a painful doom." 9:79
Those who refuse to give their wealth and lives to Allah will face the fire of hell. 9:81-83
For disbelievers there will be a painful doom. 9:90
Non-muslim who pretend to believe (so they won't be killed by Muslims) are unclean and will go to hell. 9:95
The unbelieving Arabs will be punished by Allah with an evil fortune. 9:97-98
"We shall chastise them twice; then they will be relegated to a painful doom." 9:101
Those that ignore Allah will be thown into the fire of hell. 9:109
Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed , and are bound to do so by the Torah, Gospel, and Quran. But Allah will reward them for it. 9:111
Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 9:113
Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123
Disbelievers will have a boiling drink and a painful doom. 10:4
If you enjoy life and ignore Muhammad's bullshit, Allah will torture you forever in the Fire after you die. 10:7-8
Allah has destroyed entire generations. 10:13
"Ignominy overtaketh them - They have no protector from Allah - as if their faces had been covered with a cloak of darkest night. Such are rightful owners of the Fire." 10:27
On the last day Allah will kill all the disbelievers (and then he will torture them forever in hell). 10:45
"His doom cometh unto you as a raid by night." 10:50
The damned will feel remorse for what they have done, but it will not save them from the doom that Allah has prepared. 10:54
Those who disbelieved will face a dreadful doom. 10:70
Allah drowned those who disbelieved his revelations. 10:73
Moses asked Allah to harden the hearts of the Egyptians so that they would not believe until they saw the painful doom. 10:88
If you deny the revelations of Allah, you will be among the losers and will "see the painful doom." 10:95-97
"The doom cannot be averted from them, and that which they derided will surround them." 11:8
Allah sent a lasting doom on those who mocked Noah. 11:39
Allah will send a painful doom on several nations. 11:48
"Lo! there cometh unto them a doom which cannot be repelled." 11:76
Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah by dropping burning stones on them. 11:82-83
Lo! Is fear for you the doom of a besetting Day." 11:84
"Ye will soon know on whom there cometh a doom that will abase him." 11:93
"He ... will lead them to the Fire for watering-place." 11:98
"The doom of the Hereafter" 11:103
Those in the Fire will suffer as long as the heavens and earth endure. 11:106-7
"Incline not toward those who do wrong lest the Fire touch you." 11:113
Allah will fill hell with humans and jinn. 11:119
Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire 13:5
Those who do not answer Allah's call will go to hell. 13:18
Allah leads disbelievers astry while he torments them in this life. Then afterh they die, he makes them uffer even more pain in the doom of the Hereafter. 13:33-34
The reward for disbelievers is the Fire. 13:35
"When Allah doometh there is none that can postpone His doom." 13:41
Woe unto the disbelievers. Theirs will be an awful doom. 14:2
Those who are in hell will be forced to drink festering water which they can hardly swallow. They will want to die, but they will not be able to. Theirs is a harsh doom. 14:16-17
There is no escape from Allah's doom. 14:21
"Lo! for wrong-doers is a painful doom." 14:22
Allah leads wrong-doers astray and then sends them to hell. 14:27-29
"They set up rivals to Allah that they may mislead (men) from His way. Say: Enjoy life (while ye may) for lo! your journey's end will be the Fire." 14:30
"Warn mankind of a day when the doom will come upon them." 14:44
Those in hell will be chained together. Their clothing will be made of pitch and fire will cover their faces. 14:49-50
Iblis will lead humans astray. Only perfect Muslims will be safe from him. The rest will go to hell. 15:39-43
Allah's doom is a dolorous doom. 15:50
Allah made a roof fall in to kill unbelievers. "And the doom came on them whence they knew not." 16:26
Disbelievers are evil and will dwell in hell forever. 16:27-29
Allah "will cause the earth to swallow" those who plan ill-deeds. the doom will come on them when they least expect it. 16:45
Theirs will be the Fire, and they will be abandoned." 16:62
"Theirs will be a painful doom." 16:63
"The Hour of Doom is but a twinkling of the eye." 16:77
"When those who did wrong behold the doom, it will not be made light for them." 16:85
Allah will add doom to doom for those who disbelieve. 16:88
Those who oppose Islam will face an awful doom. 16:94
Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 16:104
Those who loose their faith in Islam will face an awful doom. Allah's wrath is upon them. 16:106
Those who invent lies against Allah will have a painful doom. 16:116-7
Allah made hell to be a dungeon for disbelievers. 17:8
Allah has prepared a painful doom for those who disbelieve in the Hereafter. 17:10
Allah destroyed entire towns. 17:16
How many generations Allah has destroyed since Noah! 17:17
Allah intends to burn people in hell. 17:18
"Set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into hell." 17:39
"Lo! the doom of thy Lord is to be shunned." 17:57
Allah will destroy every town before the Day of Resurrection. 17:58
Whoever follows Iblis will be cast into hell. 17:63
Allah will send disbelievers astray. Then he'll burn them in hell, increasing the flames from time to time. 17:97-98
Allah has prepared a Fire for the disbelievers. When they want a shower, Allah will give them a shower of molten lead to burn their faces. 18:29
Christians will cry out to Allah's "partners", but they won't hear them; Allah will send them to their doom. 18:52
Those who are condemned to the Fire know they will have no way to escape. 18:53
Nothing prevents non-muslims from believing in Islam. So it's their own fault when they are sent to their doom. 18:55
There is an appointed time in which the doomed will find no escape. 18:58
Allah has destroyed many towns. 18:59
On a certain day, Allah will present hell, in plain view, to the disbelievers. 18:100
Allah will welcome the disbelievers into hell. 18:102
The good works of disbelievers are all in vain. They will go to hell anyway. 18:104-105
Hell is the reward for disbelievers because they made a jest of Allah's revelations and messengers. 18:106
"Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day."
Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell. 19:35-37
Allah will pluck out from every sect those who should burn in hell. 19:69-70
"How many a generation have We destroyed before them?"
Allah brags about destroying entire generations. 19:74
Allah will prolong the lives of non-believers so they can see their punishment, either in this world or in the Hour of doom. 19:75
Allah will record what disbelievers say and then prolong their torment. 19:77-79
Allah has sent the devils on the disbelievers to confuse them. 19:83
Allah will "drive the guilty unto hell, a weary herd." 19:86
Allah has destroyed many generations. 19:98
Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 20:6
The people cried out for mercy, but Allah killed them anyway. 20:15
Lo! it hath been revealed unto us that the doom will be for him who denieth and turneth away." 20:48
"There [in hell] he will neither die nor live." 20:74
Those who do not believe Allah's revelations will face doom in the Hereafter. 20:127
Allah has destroyed many generations. 20:128
Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 21:6
"And one of them who should say: Lo! I am a god beside Him, that one We should repay with hell." 21:29
Disbelievers will not be able to put out the fire on their faces and backs. They will be stupefied and no one will help them. 21:39-40
"Fear the Lord ... and dread the Hour of doom." 21:49
Every person alive at the time of the flood was evil. So Allah drowned them all. 21:77
The disbelievers will stare in terror at what Allah has in store for them. 21:97-99
When the doom of Allah comes, pregnant women will suffer miscarriages, and men will act like they are drunk. 22:1-2
The devil will guide some to the punishment of the Flame. 22:3-4
Those who turn from the way of Allah will face ignominy in this world and burning in the next. 22:9
Whoever thinks that Allah will not give Muhammad victory should go hang himself. 22:15
"There are many unto whom the doom is justly due. Allah doeth what he will." 22:18
Disbelievers will wear garments of fire, boiling fluid will be poured on their heads, their bellies and skin will be melted, they will be tormented with iron hooks, and when they try to escape they will be driven back with the taunt: Taste the doom of burning. 22:19-22
Allah will provide the disbelievers with a painful doom. 22:25
How many towns Allah has destroyed! 22:45
"They will bid thee hasten on the Doom." 22:47
Those who disregard Allah's revelations are the owners of the Fire. 22:51
"Those who disbelieve will not cease to be in doubt thereof until the Hour come upon them unawares, or there come unto them the doom of a disastrous day." 22:55
Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will have a shameful doom. 22:57
Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will burn in the Fire. 22:72
Allah told Noah not to bother pleading for the people he was about to drown. 23:27
Those who don't believe in the Hereafter will receive extreme punishment from Allah. 23:74-77
"Those whose scales are light are those who lose their souls, in hell abiding." 23:103
When fire burns their faces, they will be glum. 23:104
Scourge adulterers and adulteresses with 100 stripes. Do not show them any pity. Have a party of believers watch the punishment. 24:2
Those who spread slander will face an awful doom. 24:11
Those who murmur will face an awful doom. 24:14
Those who traduce virtuous, believing women ... cursed are they in the world and the Hereafter. Theirs will be an awful doom." 24:23
Disbelievers will never escape the Fire that will be their home. 24:57
Those who deny the coming of the Hour will be chained together and burned with fire. They will pray for their own destruction. 25:11-13
Allah will force the evil-doers to taste great torment. 25:19
It will be a hard day for disbelievers and wrong-doers. They will gnaw on their hands and wish they had chosen Islam. 25:26-27
"Those who will be gathered on their faces unto hell" 25:34
Those who deny Muhammad's revelations will be destroyed. 25:36
Allah drowned everyone in the flood of Noah, and has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 25:37
"They [the non-muslims] will know, when they behold the doom, who is more astray as to the road." 25:42
"The doom of hell; lo! the doom thereof is anguish." 25:65
Those who cry out to another god with Allah will be tormented doubly in hell. 25:68-69
"Hell will appear plainly to the erring." 26:91
Allah killed those that ignored Hud's warnings. 26:124-139
Allah destroyed the people in Lot's town with a dreadful rain. 26:172-3
Many will not believe until they see the painful doom. 26:201
Those who believe in another god are doomed. 26:213
Allah leads those who do not believe in the Hereafter astray by making things work out OK in this life, so that he can torment them forever in the next. They will get the worst punishment and will be the greatest losers. 27:4-5
"Allah destroyed them and their people, every one." 27:51
Allah sent a dreadful rain on "those who stayed behind." 27:58
Whoever does something wrong will be thrown into the Fire. 27:90
"We made them (evil-doers) patterns that invite unto the Fire, and on the Day of Resurrection they will not be helped." 28:40-42
Allah has completely destroyed many communities. 28:58
Allah will taunt Christians on the day of their doom, saying: Where are My partners whom ye imagined? 28:62-64
Allah caused the earth to swallow Korah. 28:79-81
Those who disbelieve in the revelations of Allah have no hope of mercy. For such there is a painful doom. 29:23
"Ye have chosen only idols instead of Allah ... on the Day of Resurrection ye will deny each other and curse each other, and your abode will be the Fire, and ye will have no helpers." 29:25
"Bring Allah's doom upon us." 29:29
The doom of hell will come upon disbelievers suddenly, when they least expect it. 29:53-55
The worst thing you can do is tell a lie about Allah. Hell is the home of disbelievers. 29:68
Allah seals the heart of disbelievers. (And then he burns them in the Fire.) 30:59
Those who mislead others from Allah's way and mock Islam will have a painful doom. 31:6-7
Allah will give disbelievers a little comfort for a little while, and then he'll torment them forever with a heavy doom. 31:23-24
Allah will fill hell with the jinn and mankind together. 32:13
Allah: Taste the doom of immortality because of what ye used to do. 32:14
Those who used to deny the Fire will be tormented in it forever. 32:20
The worst thing you can do is to deny the revelations of Allah. 32:22
He hath prepared a painful doom for the unfaithful." 33:8
Allah cast panic into the hearts of the disbelievers. He killed some, and enslaved others. 33:25-26
Those who oppose Islam will be slain with a fierce slaughter. 33:60-61
Allah has cursed the disbelievers, and has prepared for them a flaming fire, wherein they will abide forever. 33:64-65
The disbelievers will be burned in the Fire with a double torment. 33:66-68
Those who challenge the revelations of Muhammad will have a painful doom. 34:5
Those who disbelieve in the Hereafter will be tormented. 34:8
But some of the jinn Allah burned with flaming Fire. 34:12
"They are filled with remorse when they behold the doom; and We place carcans on the necks of those who disbelieved." 34:33
Those who strive against Allah's revelations will be brought to the doom. 34:38
Those who worshipped the jinn will taste the doom of the Fire. 34:41
Those who ignore Allah's messenger (Muhammed) will face a terrific doom. 34:46
Those who are cast into hell be terrified when they see that they have no escape. Then they will believe. But it will be too late. 34:51-52
The devil is real. He and his followers will burn forever in the Fire. 35:6
Those who disbelieve will have an awful doom. 35:7
"Those who plot iniquities ... will have an awful doom." 35:10
Disbelievers will burn forever in the fire of hell. Allah will keep them alive so that he can torture them forever. When they repent and ask for mercy, he will ignore them. 35:36-7
Allah has blinded the disbelievers so that they cannot see the truth. So it don't bother warning them. They will go to hell anyway. 36:8-10
Allah has destroyed many entire generations. 36:31
If Allah feels like it, he will drown everyone. 36:43
Allah will burn the disbelievers in hell. 36:63-4
Those who "did wrong" will go to hell, and their wives will go to hell with them (no matter how they behaved). 37:22-23
Those who refuse to believe in Muhammad's revelations will face a painful doom. 37:31-38
"Then looketh he and seeth him in the depth of hell." 37:55
If you're not favored by Allah, you're doomed. 37:57
Those in hell must eat from a tree with the heads of devils, and then drink boiling water. After that they return to hell. 37:62-68
Allah drowned everyone except Noah and his family in the flood. 37:82
Allah tells Abraham in a dream to sacrifice his son. (But is the son Ishmael or Isaac?) 37:102
Only the "single-minded slaves of Allah" will be saved from the doom. 37:127-8
Allah killed everyone in Sodom except for Lot and his family. 37:136
No one is against Allah, except those who burn in hell. 37:162-3
Just wait a while and watch. The unbelievers will soon be destroyed in the doom. 37:176-9
Allah has destroyed many generations. 38:3
Those who doubt will soon taste Allah's doom. 38:8
Those who deny the messengers deserve doom. 38:14
Those who wander from the way of Allah will have an awful doom. 38:26
Those who disbelieve will burn in the Fire. 38:27
David slashed their legs and necks (with Allah's approval). 38:33
The transgressors will roast in the Fire and be forced to drink boiling liquids followed by ice cold drinks. 38:55-9
"Whoever did prepare this for us, oh, give him double portion of the Fire!" 38:61
Iblis asks Allah to let him hang around and mislead humans. Allah allows him to do so, and Iblis leads all humans to hell except for the single-minded slaves. Allah agrees, and plans to fill hell with Iblis and his followers. 38:79-85
Tell the disbelievers to enjoy themselves now, because later they will be owners of the Fire. 39:8
Those who disobey Allah should fear his doom. 39:13
The losers will be those who lose themselves and their families on the Day of Resurrection. They will be surrounded by fire. 39:15-16
No one will be able to help those that Allah torments in the Fire. 39:19
"Wrong-doers" will be taunted while suffering in an "awful doom." 39:24
The doom will come upon those who deny what Allah has revealed. 39:25
Allah will make non-believers "taste humiliation in the life of the world" and " the doom of the Hereafter" which will be even worse. 39:26
The worst thing you can do is tell a lie against Allah. The home of disbelievers is hell. 39:32
"On whom there falleth everlasting doom." 39:40
"They ... will seek to ransom themselves ... from the awful doom." 39:47
Surrender to Allah before he sends the doom upon you suddenly. 39:54-55
Disbelievers had their chance to believe. They will all suffer in an endless doom. 39:56-59
Those who lie about Allah will be sent to hell and will have their faces blackened. 39:60
Those who disbelieve will be driven into hell. 39:71-72
Allah sent an awful punishment at the time of Noah. 40:5
Those who disbelieve are the owners of the Fire. 40:6
When the doom comes, the hearts of the doomed will choke in their throats, and no one will help them. 40:18
Those who ignore Allah's "clear proofs" will be seized and punished severely. 40:22
Disbelievers will burn forever in the Fire. 41:41-42
The prodigals will be owners of the Fire. 40:43
"A dreadful doom encompassed Pharaoh's folk." 40:45
The doomed will be exposed to the Fire morning and evening. 40:46
While burning in the Fire, they argue about who is to blame. 40:47
Those in hell will beg to be relieved from the Fire's torment for just a day. But the prayer of a disbeliever is in vain. 40:49-50
Those who bicker about Allah's revelations are filled with pride. 40:56
Those who scorn Allah will go to hell. 40:60
Those who deny the revelations of Allah are perverted. 40:63
Those who deny the Scripture and Allah's messengers will be dragged through boiling water and thrust into the Fire. 40:70-72
Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my parnters that you used to believe in? 40:73
Thus does Allah send astray the disbelievers (in his guidance). 40:74
Those who scorn will go to hell. 40:76
When they see Allah's doom they will believe in Allah. But their faith will not save them. The disbelievers will be ruined. 40:84-85
Allah will make life miserable for those who deny his revelations and then he will torment them forever in the Hereafter. And they will not be helped. 41:15-16
"The doom of humiliation overtook them because of what they used to earn." 41:17
The enemies of Allah will be gathered into the Fire where their skin, ears, and eyes will testify against them. 41:19-20
Non-muslims will be tormented forever in the Fire. Allah will not have any mercy on them. 41:24
Allah will make those who disbelieve taste an awful doom. Their immortal home will be the Fire, since they denied Allah's revelations. 41:27-28
"Lo! those who distort Our revelations are not hid from Us. Is he who is hurled into the Fire better?" 41:40
Those who disbelieve will taste hard punishment. 41:50
While some lounge in the Garden, others will roast in the Flame. 42:7
Those who argue about Allah will have his wrath upon them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 42:16
For wrong-doers there is a painful doom. 42:21
"And as for disbelievers, theirs will be an awful doom." 42:26
Allah sometimes kills people for misbehaving. 42:34
"For such there is a painful doom." 42:42
Allah sends some people astray and then punishes them for it by burning them in the Fire. 42:44-46
"And thou wilt see them exposed to (the Fire), made humble by disgrace." 42:45
Those who turn people away from Islam will "be sharers in the doom." 43:37-39
When the Egyptians angered Allah, he drowned them all. 43:55
Those who argue and do wrong will have a painful doom that will come upon them suddenly. 43:65-66
The guilty are tormented forever in hell. Allah will not relax their punishment. 43:74-75
"But they will come to know."
Allah will torment disbelievers forever in hell. 43:88-89
Those in torment will claim to believe and ask Allah for relief. But he will refuse since they will return to their disbelief. 44:11-16
Those in hell must eat from a tree like molten brass that burns their bellies. Then boiling water will be poured on their heads. 44:43-48
"He hath saved them [Muslims] from the doom of hell."
(Everyone else is going to hell.) 44:56
Those who hear and reject Allah's revelations are sinful liars. Give them tidings of a painful doom. 45:7-8
Those who joke about Allah's revelations will go to hell. Theirs will be a shameful doom. 45:9-10
Those who disbelieve in Allah's revelations will have an awful doom of wrath. 45:11
"Your habitation is the Fire, and there is none to help you." 45:34
Disbelievers will be rewarded with the ignominious doom of the Fire. 46:20
Serve only Allah or face the doom of a tremendous day. 46:21
The guilty will face a wind with a painful torment. 46:25
Allah has destroyed entire towns. 46:27
If you believe Muhammed, Allah will forgive some of your sins and protect you from the painful doom (that he plans to torture everyone else with). 46:31
Allah will taunt the disbelievers that he torments in the fire, saying: "Taste the doom for that ye disbelieved." 46:34
Smite the necks of the disbelievers whenever you fight against them. Those who die fighting for Allah will be rewarded. 47:4
Allah will damn the disbelievers and make all their actions fruitless. 47:8-9
Disbelievers may eat and be happy now, but the Fire will be their final home. 47:12
Those in the Garden will drink delicious wine, while those in the Fire will drink boiling water that will tear apart their intestines. 47:15
Allah curses people by making them deaf and blind. 47:23
Angels will gather them together and smite their faces and backs. 47:27
Those who think an evil thought concerning Allah will be cursed and sent to hell by him. 48:6
Allah has prepared a flame for the disbelievers. 48:13
If you refuse to fight for Allah, he will punish you with a painful doom. 48:16
"Whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." 48:17
But if you're willing to fight for Allah, he will provide you with lots of booty. 48:19-20
Allah punished those who disbelieved with a painful punishment. 48:25
Those with Muhammad are ruthless toward disbelievers and merciful toward themselves. 48:29
Allah will hurl those who believe in another god into a dreadful doom. 50:26
"We say unto hell: Art thou filled? and it saith: Can there be more to come?"
Allah talks to hell about it's occupancy level. 50:30
Allah has destroyed many entire generations. 50:36
Accursed are the conjecturers who ask: When is the Day of Judgment? It is the day they will be tormented by the Fire. 51:10-14
"We left behind therein a portent for those who fear a painful doom." 51:37
Lo! the doom of thy Lord will surely come to pass." 52:7
Those who deny the existence of hell will be thrust into its Fire. 52:11-16
"Their Lord hath warded off from them the torment of hell-fire."
(Everyone else is going to hell -- and the believers are all okay with that.) 52:18
"Allah hath been gracious unto us and hath preserved us from the torment of the breath of Fire." 52:27
Allah sent a storm of stones on Lot's folk, killing all but Lot's family. 54:34
The suffering in hell will be more wretched and bitter than anything experienced on earth. 54:46-48
Allah destroyed many people, but does anyone remember anymore? 54:51
"There will be sent, against you both, heat of fire and flash of brass, and ye will not escape." 55:35
The guilty deny hell. But after they die they go circling between it and fierce, boiling water. 55:43-44
But those on his left hand will face scorching wind, scalding water, and black smoke. 56:42-43
Those who deny Allah and the Hereafter will eat from the Zaqqum tree and drink boiling water. 56:51-54
Allah will welcome the rejecters and erring with boiling water and a roasting in the hell fire. 56:92-94
Those who disbelieve or doubt the revelations of Allah will be face the doom. 57:13-14
The home of disbelievers is the Fire, a hapless journey's end. 57:15
Those who disbelieve and deny Allah's revelations are the owners of the fire. 57:19
For disbelievers is a painful doom. 58:4
For disbelievers is a shameful doom. 58:5
Those who disobey Muhammed will go to hell. 58:8
Don't make friends with Allah's enemies. For those who do so, Allah has prepared a dreadful doom. 58:14-15
Those who turn others away from the way of Allah will have a shameful doom. They are rightful owners of the Fire. 58:16-17
Allah cast fear into the hearts of the disbelieving People of the Scripture. Their home in the Hereafter will be the Fire. 59:2-3
The disbelievers fear the believers more than Allah. 59:13
The devil and disbelievers will be in the Fire. 59:16-17
Allah loves those who fight for him. 61:4
"O ye who believe! Shall I show you a commerce that will save you from a painful doom?" 61:10
Those who disbelieve will have a painful doom. 64:5
Those who disbelieve are the owners of the Fire. 64:10
The fuel of the Fire is men and stones. 66:6
Be stern with disbelievers. They are going to Hell anyway. 66:9
Allah has prepared for the devils a doom of flame. 67:5
Disbelievers will go to hell where they will hear its roaring and boiling. 67:6-7
Who will protect the disbelievers from a painful doom? (Nobody) 67:28
Those who consider the Quran to be "mere fables" will be branded on the nose.68:15-16
Those who do not believe in Allah will be chained up and cast into hell-fire where they will eat filth. 69:30-35
"Lo! it is the fire of hell Eager to roast." 70:15
Doom is about to fall on all disbelievers. Only worshippers (Muslims) and those who preserve their chastity (except with their wives and slave girls) will be spared from "the fires of hell" that are "eagar to roast." 70:1-30
"Lo! the doom of their Lord is that before which none can feel secure" (except for maybe those who are fearful of it). 70:27-28
Disbelievers will enter hell with frantic with fear, knowing they will be tortured forever by Allah. 70:36, 44
Allah sent Noah to warn people about the painful doom he was planning to send. (It didn't work out well; Allah sent it anyway.) 71:1
Those that Allah drowned in Noah's flood were then tortured forever in the Fire. 71:25
Noah asked Allah to drown all the disbelievers. 71:26
The fires of hell will be fueled with the bodies of idolators and unbelievers. They will experience an ever-greater torment. 72:15-17
Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will dwell forever in the fire of hell. 72:23
The fires of hell will be fueled with the bodies of idolators and unbelievers. They will experience an ever-greater torment. 72:15-17
Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will dwell forever in the fire of hell. 72:23
Allah will take care of the deniers. He will tie them up, burn them in a raging fire, and feed them food that chokes them. 73:11-13
The last day will be a day of anguish for disbelievers. 74:9-10
Those who are stubborn to Allah's revelations will face a fearful doom. 74:16-17
The fire of hell shrivels humans and spares nothing. 74:27-29
Allah has appointed angels to tend the Fire and has prepared stumbling blocks for those who disbelieve. He sends some people (whoever he wants) astray. 74:31
Those who pay attention to this life and ignore the Hereafter will suffer forever in hell. 75:20-29
The doom is coming soon. 75:35
Allah has prepared chains, manacles, and a raging fire for the disbelievers. 76:4
Allah has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 76:31
Allah destroyed "the former folk." 77:16
Woe unto the repudiators on that day! 77:19, 77:24, 77:28, 77:34, 77:40, 77:45, 77:49
Depart unto that doom which ye used to deny." 77:29
Those who deny the revelations given to Muhammed will burn forever in hell. 78:21-30
"Lo! We warn you of a doom at hand, a day whereon a man will look on that which his own hands have sent before, and the disbeliever will cry: 'Would that I were dust!'" 78:40
Those who rebel by choosing this life over the next will go to hell. 79:37-39
The wicked will burn in hell forever. 82:14-16
Those who reject Allah's revelations will burn in hell. 83:10-17
The disbelievers used to laugh at the believers. But the final laugh will be on them. 83:29-36
Some folks will be thrown into a scorching fire. 84:11-12
Disbelievers will be given a painful doom. 84:22-24
"(Self-)destroyed were the owners of the ditch Of the fuel-fed fire." 85:4-5
Those who persecute Muslims, without repenting, will burn in hell. 85:10
Those who are flung into the great Fire will neither live nor die. 87:12-13
On that day many will be sad and weary. Scorched by the fire, drinking boiling water, with only bitter thorn-fruit to eat. 88:2-7
Allah will punish disbelievers with the direst punishment. 88:23-24
Allah poured the disaster of His punishment upon those who rebelled against him. 89:11-13
Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will have the Fire placed over them like an awning. 90:19-20
"Allah doomed them for their sin" and burned their houses. 91:14
Those who deny Allah's revelations must endure the flaming fire. 92:14-16
Allah will grab those who deny His guidance by the forelock and call the guards of hell. 96:13-18
Those who disbelieve will abide in the fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings. 98:6
What is the Calamity? It is a day when dead people's bodies will be scattered like moths, consumed in a raging fire. 101:1-11
Allah will show humans hellfire and then he will ask them about pleasure. 102:5-7
Some rich folks will be flung into the Consuming One, the fire of Allah. 104:4-6
Abu Lahab will die and be plunged in flaming Fire. His wife will have on her neck a halter of palm fiber. 111:1-5

Waberoya · Dec 4, 2009

Kwa leo hii article hapa Chini si tu 109 vioelence verses mahususi kuua watu wengine kwa mwanvuli wa kutetea dini pia inaeleza fika where Islam failed

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter. These verses are mostly open-ended, meaning that the historical context is not embedded within the surrounding text (as are nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence). They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Qur'an. Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. This proclivity toward violence - and Muhammad's own martial legacy - has left a trail of blood and tears across world history.

The Qur'an:
Qur'an (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war, even if the historical context was not. However, there are also two worrisome pieces to these verse. The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of "persecution" (a qualification that is ambiguous at best). The second is that fighting may persist until "religion is for Allah." The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring.

Qur'an (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Qur'an (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse.

Qur'an (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Qur'an (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Qur'an (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Qur'an (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Qur'an (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage not only criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, but it also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Qur'an, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad).

Qur'an (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Pursuing an injured and retreating enemy is not an act of self-defense.

Qur'an (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Qur'an (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Qur'an (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah" From the historical context we know that the "persecution" spoken of here was simply the refusal by the Meccans to allow Muhammad to enter their city and perform the Haj. Other Muslims were able to travel there, just not as an armed group, since Muhammad declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah."

Qur'an (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Qur'an (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Qur'an (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam. Prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars.

Qur'an (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Qur'an (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The "striving" spoken of here is Jihad.

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in just the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

Qur'an (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Qur'an (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

Qur'an (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).

Qur'an (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

Qur'an (9:8 - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."

Qur'an (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."

Qur'an (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Qur'an (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

Qur'an (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Qur'an)." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

Qur'an (47:4) - "So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,"

Qur'an (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"

Qur'an (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?

Qur'an (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.

Qur'an (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed!

Qur'an (61:10-12) - "O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?- That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity." This verse was given in battle. It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

Qur'an (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'

Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

Abu Dawud (14:2527) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah

Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."

Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"

Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihid died the death of a hypocrite.'"

Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power." Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

Ibn Ishaq: 327 - "Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'"

Ibn Ishaq: 990 - Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern custom, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.

Ibn Ishaq: 992 - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.

Additional Notes:

Other than the fact that Muslims haven't killed every non-Muslim under their domain, there is very little else that they can point to as proof that theirs is a peaceful, tolerant religion. Few verses in the Qur'an can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious tolerance and universal brotherhood, and those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses that are obviously abrogated by later ones. Small wonder that Muslim apologists spend a lot of time speaking of the "risks" of trying to interpret the Qur'an without their "assistance."

Far from being mere history or theological construct, the violent verses of the Qur'an have played a key role in the many massacres in Muslim history, including the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghazni's bloody conquest, including the massacre of those who defending their temples from destruction. Buddhism was very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent. Judaism and Christianity met the same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by Muslim armies, including the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe, including today's Turkey. Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of a proud Persian people is despised by Muslims and barely survives in modern Iran.

So ingrained is violence in the religion that Islam has never really stopped being at war, either with other religions or with itself.

Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring the men, raping their women, enslaving their children, and taking what was once the property of others for his own. On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged inhabitants and killed those whom he could take prisoner. He inspired his followers to battle even when they did not feel it was right to fight, threatening them with Hell if they did not, promising them slaves and booty if they did. Muhammad allowed his men to rape traumatized women captured in battle.

It is important to emphasize that Muslim armies waged aggressive campaigns, and it was the companions of Muhammad who made the most dramatic military gains in the decades following his death. The principle set in motion early on was that the civilian population of a town was to be destroyed (ie. men executed, women and children taken as slaves) if they defended themselves. Although modern Muslim apologists often claim that Islam only attacked in self-defense, this is not only an oxymoron, but it is flatly contradicted by the accounts of Muslim historians and others going back to the time of Muhammad.

Muhammad's failure to leave a clear line of succession resulted in perpetual internal war following his death. Those who knew him best first battled to force remote tribes into remaining Muslim (the Ridda or 'Apostasy wars'). Then within the closer community, early Meccan converts fought later ones. Hostility developed between those immigrants who had traveled with Muhammad to Mecca and the Ansar at Medina who had helped them settle in. Finally there was a violent struggle within Muhammad's own family between his favorite wife and favorite daughter - a jagged schism that has left Shias and Sunnis at each others' throats to this day.

The strangest and most untrue thing that can be said about Islam is that it is a Religion of Peace. If every standard by which the West is judged and condemned (slavery, imperialism, intolerance, women's rights, warfare...) were applied equally to Islam, the verdict would be absolutely devastating. Islam never gives up what it conquers, be it religion, culture, language or life. Neither does it make apologies or any real effort at moral progress. It is the least open to dialogue and the most self-absorbed. It is convinced of its own perfection, yet brutally shuns examination and represses criticism.

This is what makes the verses of violence so dangerous. They are given the weight of divine command. While Muslim terrorists take them as literally as anything else in the Qur'an, and understand that Islam is incomplete without Jihad, others do little to contradict them. Indeed, what do they have? Speaking of peace and love may win over the ignorant, but when every twelfth verse of Islam's holiest book either speaks to Allah's hatred for non-Muslims or calls for their death, forced conversion, or subjugation, it's little wonder that sympathy for terrorism runs as deeply as it does in the broader community - even if most Muslims personally prefer not to interpret their religion in this way.

In fact, many Muslims are simply unaware of the Qur'an's near absence of verses that preach universal non-violence. This is because their understanding of Islam comes from what they are taught by others. In the West, it is typical for Muslims to come to believe that their religion must be like Christianity - preaching the New Testament virtues of peace, love, and tolerance - because Muslims are taught that Islam is supposed to be superior in every way. They are somewhat surprised and embarrassed to learn that the evidence of the Qur'an and the bloody history of Islam are very much in contradiction to this.

For their part, Western liberals would do well not to sacrifice critical thinking on the altar of political correctness, or look for reasons to bring other religion down to the level of Islam merely to avoid the existential truth that this it is both different and dangerous.

There are just too many Muslims who take the Qur'an literally... and too many others who couldn't care less about the violence done in the name of Islam

Last question??

KWA NINI NCHI ZA KIISLAM HAZINA DEMOKRASIA??? NA HII INAMAANISHA NINI

Tumain · Dec 4, 2009

Mmebadilisha mjadala umekuwa wa kidini badala ya kuwa wa kihistoria..kama kawaida yenu..religious battle tufanye kwenye jukwaa lake lipo..hapa tunaongelea most violent people on earth from historical facts...sasa ukijaza quotation za quran haisaidii kwasababu "iko kwenye historical record kwamba whites which happens to be christians are the most violent, arrogant and racist species on earth!

Waberoya · Dec 4, 2009

Tumain said:
Nashangaa na kusikitishwa, Baada ya kutafiti historia ya vita na uvamizi kupta kutokea duniani kwa zaidi ya miaka 1,700 iliyopita nimegundua kwamba vita vyote vimeanzishwa na mataifa yanayojiita mataifa ya kikiristo. duniani.

The most deadly were the so called

1. Hundred years War,
2. The Thirty Five Years War,
3. WW1 and WW2

All fought in Europe and wiping out tens of millions of people. Add to those the US invasion of Vietnam and resulting 3,000,000 Vietnamese deaths and now the current invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

In fact I cannot find a time when the same nations were not at war somewhere. Why do you think it is that these so called Christian people are so violent? I am curious.

kwa nini umeweka neno wakristo hapa?? au ulikosea??

Tumain said:
Mmebadilisha mjadala umekuwa wa kidini badala ya kuwa wa kihistoria..kama kawaida yenu..religious battle tufanye kwenye jukwaa lake lipo..hapa tunaongelea most violent people on earth from historical facts...sasa ukijaza quotation za quran haisaidii kwasababu "iko kwenye historical record kwamba whites which happens to be christians are the most violent, arrogant and racist species on earth!

Hapa unalalamika nini tena kaka? thread umeanzisha mwenyewe!!

Nataka unijibu tabia ya violence ya wakristo imetoka wapi kama hawafundishwi kwenye Biblia na kwa nini waislamu wasiwe nayo wakati Quran imejaa verses nyingi za violence?? hiyo history unayoitaka hapa??

Thread yako ungesema why so mmany Europeans countries are violence compare to Eastern! tungeuliza pia Eastern ipi?? Iraq and Iran?? wewe unafikiri Iran ingekuwa superpower kama USA wangefanyaje??

Nadhani ni vizuri thread hii iishie hapa, unless kama unataka document zaidi, kila kiti kiko uchi siku hizi!! BELIEVE ME many things in Islam you dont know yet!

Hivi hii siyo history??

'''Far from being mere history or theological construct, the violent verses of the Qur'an have played a key role in the many massacres in Muslim history, including the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghazni's bloody conquest, including the massacre of those who defending their temples from destruction. Buddhism was very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent''

Kaka sijaelewa intention yako ilikuwa ni nini! vijana wa kileo wala hatuwazi udini! umeshapitwa na wakati wenye nazo wameshaondoka, kama unataka dini , peleleza kwanza kabla ya kurithi!

To me I count all muslim, christians, pagans as normal human being and I like and love them inspite of our differences in beliefs.Kama hauujui uislam sikulaumu kwani umerithi hujaujua bado. Kuna stori nyingi chafu za Muhamad ambazo tukiziweka hapa thread huwa zinafungwa.Acha udini kaa nao mbali kabisa you will be safe.

After all TANZANIA kutofautisha watu wa hizi dini ni kazi sana, we are so intimated. HILI HAUJALIONA MKUU???

Tumain · Dec 4, 2009

Weborya,
leave aside for a moment (quran and bible) kwa sababu mimi nikitaka kufanya copy and paste kwenye bible out of context huwezi nishinda... mjadala wangu ni wa kihistoria..kama unataka religions battle weka kule kwenye dini hapa nataka thread tui-judge from historical facts basi..

Thread haiwezi kuwa mwisho wake kwasababu nilichosema mimi ni kwamba the most violent people on earth happens to be those coming from countries with majority of christians" I still stand with my argument to deduce the knowledge and understanding!

Wewe umakuja na Qura'n verses out of context lakini bado hao waislamu hawaja ua watu wengi duniani (from historical record kuliko hao christians whites), na hata mpaka leo wanaoua watu na kuvamia nchi za watu wengine ni hao hao ambao wametoka kwenye nchi zenye wakristo wengi...

Kama wewe ni mtafiti unataka kuelewa the most violent people on earth, kwanza lazima uchukue jamii ya watu walioua watu wengi, walivamia nchi za watu sana, waliobagua watu sana na kuendelea kubagua, (yaani vigezo vya mtu kuwa arrogant,violent and racist)

Still it goes with records in hand nchi zenye wakristo wengi ndio wamefanya mauaji mengi, wameua watu wengi duniani na wamevamia nchi za wenzao kwa sana...hii inaweza kukupa kwanini ni sawa nikisema wakristo (kutokana na uwingi wao ) wameshindwa kubadili tabia za wenzao wachache wanaofanya uchafu..then tunaweza ku-conclude kwamba ukristo unasababisha watu kuwa most violent, arrogant, cruel.

naomba ujadili kwa vigezo hivyo siyo kuja cut and paste za sanamu za ki-misri, waarabu..nami nikianza kufanya hivyo tutaharibu mjadala huu wa kihistoria purely intellectual na kuwa wa kidini na kuwa sehemu ya mashindano..nitaendelea..

MaxShimba · Dec 5, 2009

Tumaini,

Bado unachanganya mambo. Wewe unafikiri Ukristo ndio Uzungu. La hasha, hapo umenoa.

Kama unaijuwa vizuri historia ya Ukristo, utagundua kuwa ulifika Afrika hata kabla ya kwenda kwa wazungu. Soma habari ya Ethiopian Eunuch na/au Queen of Sheeba. Hapo utaweza kuelewa kuwa unacho fanya hapa hakina mwelekeo wala maana, kwasababu ya kukosa theological ethics.

Pole sana.

Spear · Dec 5, 2009

MaxShimba said:
Tumaini,

Bado unachanganya mambo. Wewe unafikiri Ukristo ndio Uzungu. La hasha, hapo umenoa.

Kama unaijuwa vizuri historia ya Ukristo, utagundua kuwa ulifika Afrika hata kabla ya kwenda kwa wazungu. Soma habari ya Ethiopian Eunuch na/au Queen of Sheeba. Hapo utaweza kuelewa kuwa unacho fanya hapa hakina mwelekeo wala maana, kwasababu ya kukosa theological ethics.

Pole sana.

Twambie hapo Tanganyika ukiristo ulifikishwa na nani na miaka gani kama sio hao wazungu .

Mahmood · Dec 5, 2009

Tumain said:
Nashangaa na kusikitishwa, Baada ya kutafiti historia ya vita na uvamizi kupta kutokea duniani kwa zaidi ya miaka 1,700 iliyopita nimegundua kwamba "vita vyote vimeanzishwa na mataifa yanayojiita mataifa ya kikiristo. duniani.

The most deadly were the so called

1. Hundred years War,
2. The Thirty Five Years War,
3. WW1 and WW2

All fought in Europe and wiping out tens of millions of people. Add to those the US invasion of Vietnam and resulting 3,000,000 Vietnamese deaths and now the current invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

In fact I cannot find a time when the same nations were not at war somewhere. Why do you think it is that these so called Christian people are so violent? I am curious.

Don't forget the only country who has ever used the Atomic Bom is the US only, they used it in Japan they killed millions of people and until now people are borning as disable people in Japan, I think the people behind all these crime is the jews the jews are controlling the west (not the christian people, they are just controlled by the jews).

Mahmood · Dec 5, 2009

rmashauri said:
Waislamu huwa mnachekesha sana siku zote. Hivi ukiondoa Vatican ambayo ni typical Catholic state kuna taifa linaloitwa taifa la Kikristo duniani? Hivi tangu lini Marekani, Urusi, Ujerumani, Uingereza and the co. yakaitwa mataifa ya Kikristo duniani? Nani aliyekudanganya wewe Tumaini? Hujuwi kuwa mataifa haya yamesheheni wapagani na waabuudu dini za shetani?

Tukiliacha hilo, hivi kuna dini inayochochea ghasia dunia kama dini ya uislamu? Na matokeo yake tunayaona duniani kote leo hii. Dunia sasa si salama na watu wanahofia usalama wao kila mahali kwa sababu ya dini inayoitwa uislamu. Bila uislamu dunia ingekuwa mahali salama kabisa pa kuishi. Lakini leo hakuna amani kisa, kuwepo kwa dini inayoitwa uislamu.

Vita zote unazoziona zimeanzishwa na wayahudi,

Burundi

Afghanstan

Zaire

Ruwanda

Iraq

Liberia

Somalia

Uganda

Ireland

Israel

You name it.. ukibisha shauri ni lako, this is just for your Infomartion.

Waberoya · Dec 5, 2009

Tumain said:
Weborya,
leave aside for a moment (quran and bible) kwa sababu mimi nikitaka kufanya copy and paste kwenye bible out of context huwezi nishinda... mjadala wangu ni wa kihistoria....

Unalazimisha hypothesis yako iko wrong Tumaini, kwa sababu hakuna uwiano wa information za uarabuni na western countries

1. Kutokana na maendeleo ya mawasiliono, arabuni bado iko nyuma kulinganisha na western na ndio maana nikakuuliza kwa nini hizi nchi za uarabuni hazina demokrasia? kutokuwepo kwa demokrasia maana yake nini?? je nchi za kidikteta unaweza ukaandika na kupata habari kama nchi za western?? huoni conclusion yako itaishia kwenye comparison lakini wote wamefanya same crime

waarabu walichukua watumwa, wakawahasi na kuwafanya vitendo vibaya, Jihad (historically) iliua watu wengi sana, kuna cases nyingi sana za watu kuuawa kwa sumu uarabuni.

Haya ni yale ambayo hata mtoto mdogo anayajua

western kweli kabisa wameua na kupromote vita(but not forced by their religion) let say western wameua watu 100 na arabuni wameua watu 2, can you kindly prove to me kuwa huyu mtu aliyeua watu 2 kama ana uwezo hawezi kuua watu 100!! au zaidi!! ukipata jibu pigia mstari acha ubishi,

Binadamu wote ni violence kinachotulinda ni moral, sheria na malezi! kuna watu racist dunia hii kama warusi?? sio wakristo wala waislamu

Your hypothesis is wrong, miaka ya utumwa, vita,udikteta vilikuwa kila mahali mkuu! usisahau Afrika, muulize Idd Amin, IDD AMIN hakuwa dikteta kwa sababu alikuwa Muislam kwa sababu nyakati hizi zilikuwa za kidikteta karibu dunia yote!! wala hakuna documented facts kuwa IDD AMIN ALIUA WATU KWA MGONGO WA DINI.

Nilikuuliza lengo la thread hii ni nini? hujajibu, mathalan conclusion yako unataka iwe vipi? je hiyo conclusion inakupa raha kiasi gani au inatusaidia kiasi gani? ukiwauliza wazungu watakwambia mbona vibaka, majambazi wachuna ngozi wako kwenu? how waould you respond! can we change history? NO, can we change people?, YES!

kWA HIYO ANALYSIS YAKO IENDANE NA UKWELI WA NINI KILIKUWA KINAENDELA NYAKATI HIZO DO NOT JUST SAY WAKRISTO!! Husianisha toka ujima mpaka leo, hatua alizozipitia mwanadamu, tafuta lini ukristo uliingia hizo nchi na lini uliondoka! hakuna wakristo western mkuu nenda makanisani mwao kaangalie wote wanajaa kuangalia Arsenal na Manchester!

LOL! hujasikia wasabato wanataka wakahubiri injili Ulaya????

MaxShimba said:
Tumaini,

Bado unachanganya mambo. Wewe unafikiri Ukristo ndio Uzungu. La hasha, hapo umenoa.

Kama unaijuwa vizuri historia ya Ukristo, utagundua kuwa ulifika Afrika hata kabla ya kwenda kwa wazungu. Soma habari ya Ethiopian Eunuch na/au Queen of Sheeba. Hapo utaweza kuelewa kuwa unacho fanya hapa hakina mwelekeo wala maana, kwasababu ya kukosa theological ethics.

Pole sana.

Jesus came to Africa and went back to Israel before wazungu kuujua ukristo

Kingu said:
Don't forget the only country who has ever used the Atomic Bom is the US only, they used it in Japan they killed millions of people and until now people are borning as disable people in Japan, I think the people behind all these crime is the jews the jews are controlling the west (not the christian people, they are just controlled by the jews).

Good! at least you are starting new dimension, umenena vizuri wayahudi.Wayahudi(jews) wengi sio sio wakristo.

Kingu said:
Vita zote unazoziona zimeanzishwa na wayahudi,

Burundi

Afghanstan

Zaire

Ruwanda

Iraq

Liberia

Somalia

Uganda

Ireland

Israel

You name it.. ukibisha shauri ni lako, this is just for your Infomartion.

Good also, wayahudi(jews) wengi sio wakristo.hwataki hata kumsikia Yesu!

Mandago · Dec 5, 2009

Waberoya said:
Unalazimisha hypothesis yako iko wrong Tumaini, kwa sababu hakuna uwiano wa information za uarabuni na western countries

1. Kutokana na maendeleo ya mawasiliono, arabuni bado iko nyuma kulinganisha na western na ndio maana nikakuuliza kwa nini hizi nchi za uarabuni hazina demokrasia? kutokuwepo kwa demokrasia maana yake nini?? je nchi za kidikteta unaweza ukaandika na kupata habari kama nchi za western?? huoni conclusion yako itaishia kwenye comparison lakini wote wamefanya same crime

waarabu walichukua watumwa, wakawahasi na kuwafanya vitendo vibaya, Jihad (historically) iliua watu wengi sana, kuna cases nyingi sana za watu kuuawa kwa sumu uarabuni.

Haya ni yale ambayo hata mtoto mdogo anayajua

western kweli kabisa wameua na kupromote vita(but not forced by their religion) let say western wameua watu 100 na arabuni wameua watu 2, can you kindly prove to me kuwa huyu mtu aliyeua watu 2 kama ana uwezo hawezi kuua watu 100!! au zaidi!! ukipata jibu pigia mstari acha ubishi,

Binadamu wote ni violence kinachotulinda ni moral, sheria na malezi! kuna watu racist dunia hii kama warusi?? sio wakristo wala waislamu

Your hypothesis is wrong, miaka ya utumwa, vita,udikteta vilikuwa kila mahali mkuu! usisahau Afrika, muulize Idd Amin, IDD AMIN hakuwa dikteta kwa sababu alikuwa Muislam kwa sababu nyakati hizi zilikuwa za kidikteta karibu dunia yote!! wala hakuna documented facts kuwa IDD AMIN ALIUA WATU KWA MGONGO WA DINI.

Nilikuuliza lengo la thread hii ni nini? hujajibu, mathalan conclusion yako unataka iwe vipi? je hiyo conclusion inakupa raha kiasi gani au inatusaidia kiasi gani? ukiwauliza wazungu watakwambia mbona vibaka, majambazi wachuna ngozi wako kwenu? how waould you respond! can we change history? NO, can we change people?, YES!

kWA HIYO ANALYSIS YAKO IENDANE NA UKWELI WA NINI KILIKUWA KINAENDELA NYAKATI HIZO DO NOT JUST SAY WAKRISTO!! Husianisha toka ujima mpaka leo, hatua alizozipitia mwanadamu, tafuta lini ukristo uliingia hizo nchi na lini uliondoka! hakuna wakristo western mkuu nenda makanisani mwao kaangalie wote wanajaa kuangalia Arsenal na Manchester!

LOL! hujasikia wasabato wanataka wakahubiri injili Ulaya????

Eti kuna cases nyingi sana za watu kuuawa kwa sumu uarabuni.

Maneno yako sio kweli, you just write what is coming in your mind even if it is pumba.

Jihad didn't killed any innocent people, Jihad helped people, read the meaning of the word Jihad you may be understand the fact.

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]Jihad is such a misunderstood word. There are two types of jihad, and both meanings come from the Arabic root word, jahada, which means to exert one's utmost efforts. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) told Muslims that the greater jihad is the daily struggle of each Muslim to be a good person.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]Contrary to what the TV would have us believe, it has nothing to do with blowing yourself up or blowing anyone else up. Muslims are called upon to struggle against their own faults and weaknesses.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]It might be much easy to march down a street, throwing stones, and shouting against tyranny and oppression, but it is much more difficult to overcome our own weaknesses. This is the greater jihad.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]The lesser jihad, according to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), is to fight in the cause of Allah. This, too, is grossly misunderstood and wrongly portrayed on our TV screens. Fighting in the cause of God has had a very bad press, where Muslims are concerned.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]Richard the Lion heart, going on a crusade to the Holy Land to conquer the holy places from the infidel, is portrayed as a brave, Christian knight.. Muslim warriors, though, are presented as merciless and cruel, spreading Islam by the sword.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]The facts, however, are different. Unlike the indiscriminate slaughter of thousands of men, women and children when the crusader knights took Jerusalem, or the murder and pillage they wreaked upon Orthodox Christians in Constantinople, the Muslim fight in the cause of God is conducted within strict limits.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]The innocent are not to be killed, nor are women, children or old people. Prisoners of war are not to be harmed in any way. Property is not to be damaged, nor animals or even plants.[/FONT]

Islam does not call for violence; rather it abhors all forms of violence and terrorism, whether against Muslims or non-Muslims. Islam, moreover, calls for peace, cooperation, and maintaining justice, and provides for the happiness and welfare of humanity as a whole. This fact is declared in the Qur'an when Allah says: (Allah commands justice, the doing of good, and liberality to kith and kin, and He forbids all shameful deeds, and injustice and rebellion: He instructs you, that ye may receive admonition.) (An-Nahl 16: 90)

Islam makes it obligatory upon Muslims to stand by the oppressed regardless of their race, color, religion or affiliation and say NO to the oppressor and ask him to respond to the voice of reason and justice.

As regards the point you posed, we would like to cite for you the fatwa issued by the eminent Muslim scholar, Sheikh `Atiyyah Saqr, former Head of Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, that reads:

Jihad is one of the words that have been misused due to misunderstanding its true meaning. The word "Jihad" is derived from the Arabic word "Jahd" which means fatigue or the word "Juhd" which means effort. A Mujahid is he who strives in the Cause of Allah and exerts efforts which makes him feel fatigued. The word "Jihad" means exerting effort to achieve a desired thing or prevent an undesired one. In other words, it is an effort that aims at bringing about benefit or preventing harm.

Jihad can be observed through any means and in any field whether material or moral. Among the types of Jihad are struggling against one's desires, the accursed Satan, poverty, illiteracy, disease, and fighting all evil forces in the world.

There are many religious texts that refer to these types of Jihad. Among the forms of Jihad is defending life, property or honor. Those who die while engaging in Jihad are considered to be martyrs, as confirmed by Hadith. Jihad is also done to avert aggression on home countries and on all that is held sacred, or in order to face those who try to hinder the march of the call of truth.

Waberoya · Dec 5, 2009

Mandago said:
Eti kuna cases nyingi sana za watu kuuawa kwa sumu uarabuni.

Maneno yako sio kweli, you just write what is coming in your mind even if it is pumba.

Jihad didn't killed any innocent people, Jihad helped people, read the meaning of the word Jihad you may be understand the fact.

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]Jihad is such a misunderstood word. There are two types of jihad, and both meanings come from the Arabic root word, jahada, which means to exert one's utmost efforts. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) told Muslims that the greater jihad is the daily struggle of each Muslim to be a good person.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]Contrary to what the TV would have us believe, it has nothing to do with blowing yourself up or blowing anyone else up. Muslims are called upon to struggle against their own faults and weaknesses.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]It might be much easy to march down a street, throwing stones, and shouting against tyranny and oppression, but it is much more difficult to overcome our own weaknesses. This is the greater jihad.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]The lesser jihad, according to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), is to fight in the cause of Allah. This, too, is grossly misunderstood and wrongly portrayed on our TV screens. Fighting in the cause of God has had a very bad press, where Muslims are concerned.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]Richard the Lion heart, going on a crusade to the Holy Land to conquer the holy places from the infidel, is portrayed as a brave, Christian knight.. Muslim warriors, though, are presented as merciless and cruel, spreading Islam by the sword.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]The facts, however, are different. Unlike the indiscriminate slaughter of thousands of men, women and children when the crusader knights took Jerusalem, or the murder and pillage they wreaked upon Orthodox Christians in Constantinople, the Muslim fight in the cause of God is conducted within strict limits.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]The innocent are not to be killed, nor are women, children or old people. Prisoners of war are not to be harmed in any way. Property is not to be damaged, nor animals or even plants.[/FONT]

Islam does not call for violence; rather it abhors all forms of violence and terrorism, whether against Muslims or non-Muslims. Islam, moreover, calls for peace, cooperation, and maintaining justice, and provides for the happiness and welfare of humanity as a whole. This fact is declared in the Qur'an when Allah says: (Allah commands justice, the doing of good, and liberality to kith and kin, and He forbids all shameful deeds, and injustice and rebellion: He instructs you, that ye may receive admonition.) (An-Nahl 16: 90)

Islam makes it obligatory upon Muslims to stand by the oppressed regardless of their race, color, religion or affiliation and say NO to the oppressor and ask him to respond to the voice of reason and justice.

As regards the point you posed, we would like to cite for you the fatwa issued by the eminent Muslim scholar, Sheikh `Atiyyah Saqr, former Head of Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, that reads:

Jihad is one of the words that have been misused due to misunderstanding its true meaning. The word Jihad is derived from the Arabic word Jahd which means fatigue or the word Juhd which means effort. A Mujahid is he who strives in the Cause of Allah and exerts efforts which makes him feel fatigued. The word Jihad means exerting effort to achieve a desired thing or prevent an undesired one. In other words, it is an effort that aims at bringing about benefit or preventing harm.

Jihad can be observed through any means and in any field whether material or moral. Among the types of Jihad are struggling against ones desires, the accursed Satan, poverty, illiteracy, disease, and fighting all evil forces in the world.

There are many religious texts that refer to these types of Jihad. Among the forms of Jihad is defending life, property or honor. Those who die while engaging in Jihad are considered to be martyrs, as confirmed by Hadith. Jihad is also done to avert aggression on home countries and on all that is held sacred, or in order to face those who try to hinder the march of the call of truth.

Kaka wewe ungekuwa Tumaini tusingefika hapa! naona una tatizo kwenye selection ya maneno.Tumain huwa anataka evidence, ulichojia hapa ni ubishi na kujiweka kwenye position ya kuwa unajua kila kitu.Binamu yake saddam alikuwa anajulikana kwa jina gani? , mkuu habari ziko mpaka wikipedia wewe unabisha?

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Hiyo Jihad unayoizungumzia hapa ni contrary na Quran refer posts zangu nimekuwekea verses 109 kutoka kwenye Quran zinazosema Jihad ni nini! SIO UNACHOKISEMA HAPA !!! SIO MKUU,ona unavyoivaa aibu!

iN FUTURE KWA SABABU UNATUMIA MATUSI NA KUDANDIA GARI KWA MBELE SITAJIBU POST ZAKO, kama unaona unatafuta ushindi humu chukua!!! ila kusema neno pumba mkuu unaonyesha una hasira sijajua anger management yako iko level gani unaweza kuniua ati kimoyoni , NIKIKUPA UPANGA UTAFANYA NINI? HAUONI MATUSI YAKO YANATHIBITISHA KABISA UNAYOHUBIRIWA, NYIE NDIO MNAHARIBU UISLAM

Mbona mwenzako Tuma hajatukana!!

Tumaini naona utaanza kuamini maneno yangu, wanadamu wabaya mwanakwetu usiangalie dini zao, jamaa anasema nimeandika pumba, nimemwekea link kuthibitisha, kitu ambacho angeweza kutafuta kirahisi na kujikausha kimya!

Haya mandago here again, niambie hizi haya na unayoyasema kama yanawiana !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.Soma vitabu vya historia form three Jihad ni kuua watu waliokinyume na uislam mkuu, hii imeandikwa hata kwa kiswahili kabisa , HII YAKO UMEITOA WAPI?? CAN YOU RECITE ANY REFERENCE PROVING YOUR WORDS, ukishindwa kuprove uitwe nani??

Ninachokupa pole unabishana na mtu ambaye hujui chimbuko lake!

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter. These verses are mostly open-ended, meaning that the historical context is not embedded within the surrounding text (as are nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence). They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Qur'an. Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. This proclivity toward violence - and Muhammad's own martial legacy - has left a trail of blood and tears across world history.

The Qur'an:
Qur'an (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war, even if the historical context was not. However, there are also two worrisome pieces to these verse. The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of "persecution" (a qualification that is ambiguous at best). The second is that fighting may persist until "religion is for Allah." The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring.

Qur'an (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Qur'an (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse.

Qur'an (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Qur'an (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Qur'an (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Qur'an (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah"

Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Qur'an (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage not only criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, but it also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Qur'an, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad).

Qur'an (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Pursuing an injured and retreating enemy is not an act of self-defense.

Qur'an (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Qur'an (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Qur'an (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah" From the historical context we know that the "persecution" spoken of here was simply the refusal by the Meccans to allow Muhammad to enter their city and perform the Haj. Other Muslims were able to travel there, just not as an armed group, since Muhammad declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah."

Qur'an (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Qur'an (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Qur'an (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam. Prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars.

Qur'an (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Qur'an (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The "striving" spoken of here is Jihad.

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in just the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

Qur'an (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Qur'an (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

Qur'an (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).

Qur'an (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

Qur'an (9:8 - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."

Qur'an (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."

Qur'an (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Qur'an (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

Qur'an (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Qur'an)." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

Qur'an (47:4) - "So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,"

Qur'an (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"

Qur'an (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?

Qur'an (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.

Qur'an (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed!

Qur'an (61:10-12) - "O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?- That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity." This verse was given in battle. It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

Qur'an (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'

Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

Abu Dawud (14:2527) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah

Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."

Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"

Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihid died the death of a hypocrite.'"

Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power." Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

Ibn Ishaq: 327 - Allah said, A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.

Ibn Ishaq: 990 - Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern custom, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.

Ibn Ishaq: 992 - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.

Additional Notes:

Other than the fact that Muslims haven't killed every non-Muslim under their domain, there is very little else that they can point to as proof that theirs is a peaceful, tolerant religion. Few verses in the Qur'an can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious tolerance and universal brotherhood, and those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses that are obviously abrogated by later ones. Small wonder that Muslim apologists spend a lot of time speaking of the "risks" of trying to interpret the Qur'an without their "assistance."

Far from being mere history or theological construct, the violent verses of the Qur'an have played a key role in the many massacres in Muslim history, including the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghazni's bloody conquest, including the massacre of those who defending their temples from destruction. Buddhism was very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent. Judaism and Christianity met the same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by Muslim armies, including the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe, including today's Turkey. Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of a proud Persian people is despised by Muslims and barely survives in modern Iran.

So ingrained is violence in the religion that Islam has never really stopped being at war, either with other religions or with itself.

Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring the men, raping their women, enslaving their children, and taking what was once the property of others for his own. On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged inhabitants and killed those whom he could take prisoner. He inspired his followers to battle even when they did not feel it was right to fight, threatening them with Hell if they did not, promising them slaves and booty if they did. Muhammad allowed his men to rape traumatized women captured in battle.

It is important to emphasize that Muslim armies waged aggressive campaigns, and it was the companions of Muhammad who made the most dramatic military gains in the decades following his death. The principle set in motion early on was that the civilian population of a town was to be destroyed (ie. men executed, women and children taken as slaves) if they defended themselves. Although modern Muslim apologists often claim that Islam only attacked in self-defense, this is not only an oxymoron, but it is flatly contradicted by the accounts of Muslim historians and others going back to the time of Muhammad.

Muhammad's failure to leave a clear line of succession resulted in perpetual internal war following his death. Those who knew him best first battled to force remote tribes into remaining Muslim (the Ridda or 'Apostasy wars'). Then within the closer community, early Meccan converts fought later ones. Hostility developed between those immigrants who had traveled with Muhammad to Mecca and the Ansar at Medina who had helped them settle in. Finally there was a violent struggle within Muhammad's own family between his favorite wife and favorite daughter - a jagged schism that has left Shias and Sunnis at each others' throats to this day.

The strangest and most untrue thing that can be said about Islam is that it is a Religion of Peace. If every standard by which the West is judged and condemned (slavery, imperialism, intolerance, women's rights, warfare...) were applied equally to Islam, the verdict would be absolutely devastating. Islam never gives up what it conquers, be it religion, culture, language or life. Neither does it make apologies or any real effort at moral progress. It is the least open to dialogue and the most self-absorbed. It is convinced of its own perfection, yet brutally shuns examination and represses criticism.

This is what makes the verses of violence so dangerous. They are given the weight of divine command. While Muslim terrorists take them as literally as anything else in the Qur'an, and understand that Islam is incomplete without Jihad, others do little to contradict them. Indeed, what do they have? Speaking of peace and love may win over the ignorant, but when every twelfth verse of Islam's holiest book either speaks to Allah's hatred for non-Muslims or calls for their death, forced conversion, or subjugation, it's little wonder that sympathy for terrorism runs as deeply as it does in the broader community - even if most Muslims personally prefer not to interpret their religion in this way.

In fact, many Muslims are simply unaware of the Qur'an's near absence of verses that preach universal non-violence. This is because their understanding of Islam comes from what they are taught by others. In the West, it is typical for Muslims to come to believe that their religion must be like Christianity - preaching the New Testament virtues of peace, love, and tolerance - because Muslims are taught that Islam is supposed to be superior in every way. They are somewhat surprised and embarrassed to learn that the evidence of the Qur'an and the bloody history of Islam are very much in contradiction to this.

For their part, Western liberals would do well not to sacrifice critical thinking on the altar of political correctness, or look for reasons to bring other religion down to the level of Islam merely to avoid the existential truth that this it is both different and dangerous.

There are just too many Muslims who take the Qur'an literally... and too many others who couldn't care less about the violence done in the name of Islam

mjukuu2009 · Dec 5, 2009

Uyu jamaa sijui kama anajua historia vizuri na kama anajua anajifanya tahira,kwakuwa labda ana nguvu za giza zinazomwendesha.mimi naomba arudie historia "INVASION OF MALI EMPIRE" na na sehemu nyingi za africa waarabu walivamia kwa kile kinachoitwa Jihad war,mpaka leo wametuaribia watu wetu.
waislamu ndio chanzo cha uvamizi duniani na walifanya hivyo ili kueneza dini yao ya isiyo heleweka,refer quruan "mnatakiwa kuoa wayaudi na wakiristo ili kueneza dini yetu"kuna vifungu vingi vina vyo amasisha mabaya zidi ya wasio waisilamu.

October · Dec 5, 2009

Thank you Wareboya for exposing this satanic lies commanding its followers to kill enslave, rape the non believers of this doctrine.
Mafundisho kama haya (Post 78) ndiyo kiini cha mauaji na terrorism around the world.

So Violent people on earth?

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