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Rupert Murdoch is running out of luck!!!

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by Lole Gwakisa, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. Lole Gwakisa

    Lole Gwakisa JF-Expert Member

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    Ultra -conservative Australian born Rupert Murdock is in the doldrums.
    This conservative fellow who is not apologetic at being a super capitalist, to the extent of renouncing his Australian citizenship for pursuance of his media business empire in the US, is now very fast running out of luck and good company.

    I personally came to notice this man in 1986 when he had a public showdown with another madia magnate, Robert Maxwell.
    Robert Maxwell on the other hand was a gentle British acquired citizen whose dislike for Rupert Murdoch was legendary.
    Robert Maxwell, formerly a Czech born national, also fought with the British during World War II.
    In about 1986/87 Robert Maxwell(I was in the UK then) challenged Rupert Murdoch over some business venture in he UK, what amazed me was he said publicly that "may he who has the deepest pockets" between the two , win the venture.

    For a socialist oriented chap from Tanzania like myself, I was amazed at the blantantly and unashamedly naked capitalist game between the two.

    I remember Rupert laughed off the challenge , and of course he won, to the chagrin of the challenger, Robert Mxwell.
    Unknown to the public, Robert had run up into debt to sustain his image.And eventually we all know now that he commited suicide.

    A scandal has ensued in the UK over the phone hacking scandal presumably done by one of his papers News of the World.

    To contain the scandal Rupert swiftly shut down the paper and in doing so opened up old wounds and memmories on his sccuffles with Robert Maxwell.
    [h=1]'Robert Maxwell cared more about newspapers than Rupert Murdoch'[/h][h=2]Pandora Maxwell, the ex-wife of Robert Maxwell's son Kevin, says Robert Maxwell launched newspapers, whereas Rupert Murdoch shuts them down.[/h]
    [​IMG] Robert Maxwell, the Mirror Group tycoon, had a reputation for opening new titles.

    Rupert Murdoch is known to be shrewd, cold and calculating.It is said that he has had an audience with every US President since World War II President Harry Truman.
    It is said thata truce has also been brokered between him and Barak Obama.
    Thats how powerful this man is.
    He usually gets what he wants and at his price.
    Things have started to go wrong for him now after the phone hacking scandal in the UK.
    Both parties will not touch him with a ten foot pole in the UK
    And in the US the FBI are now investigating him and his papers over allegations of phone hacking on 9/11 victims phones.
    With the FBI on his tail, Rupert Nurdoch couldnt ask for a worser adversary.

    He is a strange man this Rupert Murdoch, he is of Australian origin,an American citizen, married to a Chinese!
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Murdoch with his 3rd wife Wendi in 2011

    Hizi ni hekaya za wakubwa
     
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    masopakyindi JF-Expert Member

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    Surely this Murdoch guy seems to be the quite , rich influential man.But this time he has been had!
     
  3. VoiceOfReason

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    What has Luck got to do with it...?
    You dont get to where the man is , with all his achievements by being Luck..., so it is a heavy blow, but if anyone can wriggle off it this is the man
     
  4. Lole Gwakisa

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    I admit , the guy has got balls and guts but with the FBI on his tail, he will all the luck to shake them off.
     
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    This might be the beginning of the end, he's in their target now. The liberals would not let this opportunity slip on their watch. Fox news is their number one target. The've got him where they wanted him to be. If he did it in UK most likely he did it US.
     
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    Murdoch is the most media pro calculated freak i know... His success is a result of that...
    He is powerful for he has held most of Powerful media tools in the US...It was/is inevitable
    that he held presence of every president of the United states to the Present... A US President
    need not get in the blue or black book of the Mogul... For he plays part in the winning/loosing of a US
    presidential candidate The US System of governing has given Non governmental organizations
    sole power and rights to the Media... (they do intervene now and then but - at minimal....)

    About Mardoch and Maxwell if you have read the book THE FOURTH ESTATE BY Jeffrey Archer
    OR THE FORTH K By Mario Puzo... you would closely understand the intensity, reasons behind,
    hate, bitter sweet admiration between the then two moguls... And hua nahisi Archer's FORTH
    ESTATE is directly drawn from the two...
     
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    Lole Gwakisa JF-Expert Member

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    Thank you Ashadi,
    I admire your breadth of knowledge into these powerful but controversial characters.
    Rupert is not only conservative but a republican as well. He is also anti Obama and has several times said it in publicl.
    Now that he has wronged the law(American), the Obama administration is conveniently looking the otherway and hope that the law takes its course
    It has now been established that it will take slightly just less of a miracle for Rupert Murdoch to wriggle away fro the phone hacking scandal in the US, against 9/11 victims.
    Rupert had done the same hacking(his papers) against some British Nationals , but he got away several times because he could buy himself out of trouble, including buying off the British Police.
    The FBI are a a different bunch of proffessional crime busters.
    They almost sent to the dock a SITTING president, Richard Nixon, in the Water Gate hacking scandal!!
    What saved the president then was a Congressional pardon, otherwise a sitting president would have been gaoled! so much for proffesionalism.
    Rupert Murdoch is small fry, and if found guilty he might wish he should have never left Australia.
     
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    Lole G… Thank you for the compliment….

    It is just fortunate heard about the man and his position thus piqued my interested
    if he really fitted from how I had read the same about the man in Books as mentioned above…
    One thing I admire about the US.. They do know how to run politics and never use emotions
    in serious state related issues (internally… externally it is in conjunction with their patriotic emotions… )
    Thus as you have attested above… a truce between the two – The Mogul and Obama…
    As much as Modorch may seem to be in deep shit… it wont be a surprise to me if he is a
    ble to pull it off… for he is a Pro at that… which is evident….

    Imagine Lole G mtu ambae was responsible for the Water Gate Scandle to the extent the US
    President steps down…. in the 70s bado still standing... the power of power... Hakuna raisi
    aliweza mshake na kumtoa kabisa..And with an almost dire end…(it was a manace for the state, for the
    people for US and The Democrats themselves…. Major blow up) Ndio Obama's administration
    may pull out all their claws out… but believe me you, as much as under pressure my great belief
    is he will survive..YES he will suffer.. But will surely survive… This explaining the blue highlighted line…

    The Green high lightened… when...and if when he really faces a brutal end… it will just to
    be putting him in a poor un comfy end… for he is old sasa, and his end definitely sooner
    without hata hio Pressure… And Lole G… What the man has achieved is marked in
    World History forever… It was worth Leaving Australia…
     
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    FBI na DoJ wasipomkamata kwenye phone tapping basi lazima wamkate kwenye FCPA, whatever the case sidhani News International (UK) walifanya hizo hacking bila idhini ya News Corp.
     
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    AshaDii, Iam also intrigued with this mans drive and gutso at attaining power and wealth.
    It is also evident that he is as shrewd and manipulating as far as his power can give him the milage.
    But from observations at hand, he seems to be a pain in the neck , even for his conservative supporters.
    David Cameron (Conservatives)has distanced himself from his companies and has gone as far as appointing a judge head an inquiry team to look into the criminal activity This is while David Milliband(Labour) correctly castigated his empire for the criminality of his operations in the News of the World.
    Rupert did not understand the furore caused by his News of the World criminal behaviour until when his bid for a bigger bite in shares in the BSkyB news organisation was met with loud disapproval from the British Goverment and public.
    Rupert Murdoch scandal rocked conglomerate is now in a defensive mood, from defiance at the start, to contrition.Rupert has started to understand the extent of the damage ,as he has now unwillingly accepted resignation of his able leutenant Rebekah Brooks and news coming in is that even the Wall Sreet, Dow Jones CEO(one of Ruperts jewels), Les Hinton is on his way out.

    The turn of events in the US will be quite interesting to follow.
    With a humbled Barak Obama administration( the administration was always on the receiving end of the conservative-Republican oriented companies owned by Rupert Murdoch), we are in for a show of an un-restrained FBI inquiry into Ruperts criminal operations of his companies.

    Thats why , Ashadii, I dont envy this guy as of now, harbouring investigations into his companies operations, operations leaning on criminality.
    Either way he has been had on both sides of the Atlantic.
    Any way I wish him well and hope he might just stay the course in the stormy waters that he is in at present.
     
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    It will be quite interesting to observe where the buck stops.
     
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    Gwasika you actually want us to believe you were rubbing shoulders with Maxwell and Murdoch in the 80's ? or did you copy this story from somewhere and added a few lines.
     
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    Lole Gwakisa JF-Expert Member

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    Rubbing shoulders?
    Hell no!
    These gentle men rub shoulders with Kings and Presidents.
    For a poor mjamaa like me in the 80's I had the chance to come across their feud, and I witnessed it in real time-on TV and papers of course.
    In 1984,86/87 I jus happened to be in the UK.
    The story is real.
     
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    uporoto01 JF-Expert Member

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    Am very sorry sir i misunderstood.
     
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    Pascal Mayalla JF-Expert Member

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    Naupenda huu mjadala haswa michango ya AD na LG. Mimi nawafikiria hawa Media monguls wetu what dirty games they play on us?.
     
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    Lole Gwakisa JF-Expert Member

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    Kweli mkuu, just think of our Guardian/Nipashe(Mengi) vis-a-vis Mtanzania(Rostam) and Tanzania Daima(Mbowe).
    They are all designed to exert influence of the readership into their favour.
     
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    Ha ha ha … you have drawn a laugh from me about Cameron… Of course he has to
    distance himself… He too is a politician, all politicians are shrewd… The good question to ask
    was what exact event made him go to such extremes??

    Him (Rupert) being in a defensive mood is inevitable and surely will do so till the end.
    I second the fact that the turn of events will be quite interesting to follow.. And it seems
    you so admire Obama to the extent of calling him "Humbled"; for to me Obama is anything
    BUT humbled. No man who is an American President is humbled… those humbled never did
    leave marks of presidency let alone finish the first term of presidency…
    (i.e Warren G. Harding..US president for 28 months – his down fall was his campaign of
    being neutral to all so as to make no enemies and being a good leader not a president..).
    Thus L ole G.. Obama is not Humble! A humble person never attacks from behind...

    As for the guy facing a down fall I repeat what I said before, he is marked in World History
    being one of the major players and not just a participant.. I add too that Rupert Murdoch is
    a Legend, they will bring down the Man but never his mark on this confused world of today…
     
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    Kwetu hapa hamna... hamna kabisa Moguls na bado saana kua nao...
    Wanahabari wengi woote wako mifukoni mwa wakubwa... Waoga mno!
    Yale magazeti huru na other means of media ambao, wanajitahidi ku-expose
    wamewaka a line of crossing which they could never dare touch! Imagine kasheshe
    na Scandal yoote ya Mkapa and his techniques of diverging the media... For the first
    time anajivua gamba kuongea na mwanahabari - ilikua kuongelea Why hakuipa
    michezo uzito... Imagine this stupidity... wewe ni mwana habari instead of asking
    serious issues as into the allegations against him.... anauza chai!
     
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    AshaDii, thaks for your interesting perspective on the subject.
    In fact I adore your sense of view, it gives one an interesting overview on the whiole subject at hand.

    As for David Cameron. he is one fellow that is on the recieving end as far as the whole Rupert Murdoch scenario is concerned.
    It has been said earlier that Rupert is a King Maker when it comes to politicians.
    Tony Blair , the former Bitish Prime Minister,as it is said , went to the extent of flying all the way to Australia , just to attend one of the lavish parties laid out by Murdoch.
    In esence that means politicians were queing, hat in hand to meet Murdoch, so that they can have contributions and endorsement from the media mogul and his companies.

    Cameron did the same, and it is said the after becomibg the Prime Minister , Murdoch was one of the very first people for him to meet with.
    Actually Cameron went s far as hiring some Murdoch staff to assist him in his day to day Government duties.
    Now that the heat is on, like I said before , Cameron would not be seen in public with Murdoch, the villain.
    In actual fact, Cameron has taken a tougher stance which will include a judicial inwuiry into the News of the World-Murdochs company.
    It makes sense for David Cameron to take such action, in absence of which, he could find himself out of job.

    As for Obama, Murdochs companies are on record of not having the best of working relationship with Murdochs Republican, right leanig news media companies.

    AshaDii, my view of a humbled Obama administration by the Murdoch empire might be wrong but essentially it is on record that Murdoch and Obama are not the best of buddies.
    In actual fact Murdoch pinned his hopes and aspirations on an eventual win of the American presidency on a Republican candidate, this is despite the reality on the ground.

    Up to now Obama has yet to comment on the scandal, despite Democrat antipathy towards the Murdochs, who own the right-wing Fox News cable channel, the Wall Street Journal and the best-selling tabloid the New York Post.
    Obama administration however will not restraint the FBI in uncovering the wrongs done by the media moguls companies.
    Of course I understand tha fact that Murdoch is a resilient fellow and will probably at some atageturn the tide of negative events coming his way.
    We all hope that by then , he might have learnt his lesson, but withMurdoch at 80 year old, there is very little for one to learn .
    As the adage says , you cannot teach an old dog new tricks.
     
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    Duh Rebekah Brooks amekuwa arrested kweli Scotland Yard wamemuamulia Murdoch na News International nani atafuata sasa? Les Hinton? Mtoto wa Murdoch?

    Hivi kuna similarities zozote kati ya RUpert Murdoch na media mogul wa kwenye James Bond's Tomorrow Never Dies?
     
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