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Ratzinger is the Perfect Pope - Dawkins

Discussion in 'Habari na Hoja mchanganyiko' started by Kiranga, Mar 28, 2010.

  1. Kiranga

    Kiranga JF-Expert Member

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    Jamaa kamuua papa kinoma

    Ratzinger is the Perfect Pope

    http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/richard_dawkins/2010/03/mt-preview-302c84624a03d6207b73a18d18b875a6ea0ef35a.html

    "Should Pope Benedict XVI be held responsible for the escalating scandals over clerical sexual abuse in Europe?" Yes he should, and it's going to escalate a lot further, as more and more victims break through the guilt of their childhood indoctrination and come forward.

    "Should he be investigated for how cases of abuse were handled under his watch as archbishop of Munich or as the Vatican's chief doctrinal enforcer?" Yes, of course he should. This former head of the Inquisition should be arrested the moment he dares to set foot outside his tinpot fiefdom of the Vatican, and he should be tried in an appropriate civil - not ecclesiastical - court. That's what should happen. Sadly, we all know our faith-befuddled governments will be too craven to do it.

    "Should the pope resign?" No. As the College of Cardinals must have recognized when they elected him, he is perfectly - ideally - qualified to lead the Roman Catholic Church. A leering old villain in a frock, who spent decades conspiring behind closed doors for the position he now holds; a man who believes he is infallible and acts the part; a man whose preaching of scientific falsehood is responsible for the deaths of countless AIDS victims in Africa; a man whose first instinct when his priests are caught with their pants down is to cover up the scandal and damn the young victims to silence: in short, exactly the right man for the job. He should not resign, moreover, because he is perfectly positioned to accelerate the downfall of the evil, corrupt organization whose character he fits like a glove, and of which he is the absolute and historically appropriate monarch.

    No, Pope Ratzinger should not resign. He should remain in charge of the whole rotten edifice - the whole profiteering, woman-fearing, guilt-gorging, truth-hating, child-raping institution - while it tumbles, amid a stench of incense and a rain of tourist-kitsch sacred hearts and preposterously crowned virgins, about his ears.

    BY RICHARD DAWKINS | MARCH 28, 2010; 7:03 AM ET
     
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    Freedom of expression well utilised
     
  3. Annina

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    ...Bwana kama wewe ungehesabu maovu yetu nani angesimama mbele zako...

    Annina
     
  4. Ndahani

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    Huu ni ukweli usiopingika. Kanisa lilikuwa rigid sana kipindi cha nyuma kiasi kwamba kashfa kama hizi hawakupenda zitolewe nje na kujadiliwa kama ilivyo sasa.Pope Benedict amekulia katika mazingira kama hayo, na sioni busara kumtwika msalaba huu wote yeye peke yake maana hiyo ilikuwa ni mifumo aliyoikuta.
     
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    Sina imani tena na clerics..
     
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    Ndahani JF-Expert Member

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    Yes hilo linawezekana ila usiache kumuamini mungu na mafundisho yake. Hawa makasisi siku hizi biashara imekuwa mbele. Yule padre ambaye Pope anatuhumiwa leo, inasemekana tatizo lake lilijulikana kwa muda mrefu. Ila alikuwa na uwezo mkubwa wa ku raise fund kiasi kwamba wakubwa wake wakawa wanasita kuchukua hatua stahiki. What a shame!
     
  7. TIMING

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    Yeah... freedom of expression at its best!!! na kwasbabu aliyepigwa madongo ni papa, basi hata maandamano, vurugu na uchomaji moto havitakuwepo!!! This world is really funny

    BTW, hivi ni nani alituambia dini hazijatawaliwa na betrayals, oppressions, intimidation, false pretends etc.
     
  8. Injinia

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    Oh well.
    I have always been of the opinion that Catholic preists and nuns should be allowed to marry.
    It is now quite obvious that they are fooling no-one by feigning celibacy while we all know what goes on under those flowing robes, in the choir practices etc.

    This should, however,not form the grounds for believers, Catholic or otherwise to abandon the faith. Abandon the Catholic institution perhaps, but keep the faith brothers and sisters
     
  9. Kiranga

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    I was watching "The Invention of Lying" last night, the plot is parodying the origins of religion as the invention of lying.

    The whole god business is a rather bizarre attempt at explaining the unexplainable, now that we are beginning to see a lot of the previously unexplainable being explained without the necessity of a godhead, it is time to employ reason and do away with this godhead and all the institutions that capitalize on ignorance to manipulate the populace.

    There will come a future time when people will look at this time with wonderment just as we look the same way at the ancients and medieval people, with their flat earth supported by many a tortoise, among many terribly uninformed notions.

    Dawkins is right on the money. This is deeper than just the sex scandal.The whole god idea is a big hoax, the biggest hoax ever.
     
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    Hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahah!U have made my day....
     
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    Kimsingi sijaona hoja yeyote ya maana hapa. Naona tu mtu anaibuka from nowhere nakuanza kuteremsha mitusi na accusation ambazo hazina kichwa wala miguu.
     
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    Fine, but do you think that this would've been a good solution?
    Fine, is it that only clerics and Nuns are the ones who are unfaithful to their vows?
    But how about millions of officially married couples who are always unfaithful, what could be done unto them? As 4 me marriage is not a solution and should not even be among the options. But don't misquote me as if I'm legalizing such acts, no, I'm not, I've never legalized and I hope, I'l never legalize such bad acts A proper training of both the Clergy and Religious would have been a good solution. Let the conviction be built within their hearts such that they may cling to their vows. Likewise to those in marriages should well be prepared and CHOOSE well their partners not only that but also be convinced.
    As for Pp Ben vi, I'm of the opinion that he is the right man for the present post he is holding because of the profound integrity and faith he has. Despite the waves he has been encountering, he has managed to remain standing in this dynamic and vibrant world. He has always been contrary to whatever is against the morality of the Catholic church and God at large. Remember, when you point one finger to others, bear in mind that the other three are pointing at you. It's a moment to correct others YES, but also correcting oneself. Let us not blame others at the umbrella of covering our shortcomings. Amen!
     
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