My Hypothesis on CHADEMA/Zitto’s Shadow Budget Blunder

[English Learner]

I agree with you on most of other sentences in your reply except the quoted below. Amongst the few simple things and memorable in this World are those going into pairs. They also very easy to know if the equation in which they are applied are at equilibrium. These things include:

1. Mchana - Usiku
2. Hasi - Chanya
3. Kujumlisha - Kutoa
4. Kula - Kulipa
5. Kushoto - Kulia
6. Juu - Chini
7. Mapato - Matumizi

You can't talk about spending before knowing how bigger your pocket is. This may be a day dream normally exercised by beggars hoping to ride a horse without working. Whom among us can start making choices on how to spend her money before being assured of the income/earnings? This is a very terrible deliberate mistake which even a competent Harvard Graduate Lawyer can't defend you to victory. Lets be serious on issues...

.I believe it was a common mistake, that could have been made by any human being regardless of which party membership one belongings to.

 

[OSOKONI]

Ndachuwa
I'm a student only for English but who always try to get off-the book when it comes to real world's situations. Here we are discussing the application of research grounds not discussing the academic papers.

Iam also thinking deeply about this silly mistake by Zitto, senior economist, young, popular, inteligent politician!!Did he do it delibarately or it was out of his thinking? before presentation the shadow cabinet did not pass through it??I propose that due to this silly mistake he should step down immediately as a shadow minister for Finance! It is shame for himself, for the party and for his profession!!

 

[mbogo31]

It is not reasonable to expect Chadema be 100% perfect, let's try and compare Chadema and other political parties and judge, you cannot condemn the party by a single mistake that was accepted and rectified; we do expect Chadema to keep improving! hoping one day Chadema will take power and change the entire system which on my opinion is not working toward improving the living standard of poor Tanzanians!!, Now the question is; will ccm positively improve? Absolutely not!!! They will never change!!

A mistake have been done but one or few mistakes will not divert our cause of action toward real democracy and econimical change of our motherland Tanzania, let's trust and try to correct Chadema; they will surely bring expected harmony to our nation.

 

[English Learner]

Personally, I very much know these are recommendations. But this can't be a reasons to excuse Zitto/CDM from the mistake. We should project the act into a bigger picture in which CDM is the Official opposition Camp equivalent to the Government on the waiting sit come 2015 and Zitto is their prospective Minister probably for the same position now called "Shadow"

There is nothing like shadow budget than recommendations as the Hansard reads.If you agree at the outset that it is recommendations,which is a true fact ,then it should also be accepted that recommendations not necessarily be taken or rather be consumed as whole as the opposition party(CCM) YES i mean CCM did!!!!!

 

[jnuswe]

I agree with you on most of other sentences in your reply except the quoted below. Amongst the few simple things and memorable in this World are those going into pairs. They also very easy to know if the equation in which they are applied are at equilibrium. These things include:

1. Mchana - Usiku
2. Hasi - Chanya
3. Kujumlisha - Kutoa
4. Kula - Kulipa
5. Kushoto - Kulia
6. Juu - Chini
7. Mapato - Matumizi

You can't talk about spending before knowing how bigger your pocket is. This may be a day dream normally exercised by beggars hoping to ride a horse without working. Whom among us can start making choices on how to spend her money before being assured of the income/earnings? This is a very terrible deliberate mistake which even a competent Harvard Graduate Lawyer can't defend you to victory. Lets be serious on issues...

You have been told that was ana oversite, is that very serious mistake to you, why cant you discuss about the content of what you call the shadow budget, try to be serious on analsing issues

 

[OSOKONI]

Personally, I very much know these are recommendations. But this can't be a reasons to excuse Zitto/CDM from the mistake. We should project the act into a bigger picture in which CDM is the Official opposition Camp equivalent to the Government on the waiting sit come 2015 and Zitto is their prospective Minister probably for the same position now called "Shadow"

Zitto Kabwe I remember once he posted in twitter and many other websites asking for opinions and contributions of how to come up with best Alternative Budget! Is that what he got?? did he realy take into consideration the opinions and contributions from senior economists?? I doubt!!this chap made me very angry!!

 

[umumura]

Mbona Hamelewi???? Ile haikuwa bajeti mbadala, yalikuwa ni mapendekezo ya nmana ya kuboresha bajeti ya serikali. CHADEMA HAWAKUPELEKA BAJETI MBADALA BUNGENI, WALIPELEKA MAPENDEKEZO YAO, HAYAKUWA NA ULAZIMA WA KUWEKA HIZO DATA ZILIZO MISS. wake up you ****ing ninds, don't mislead the whole mass. Hawana makosa, CHADEMA sio serikali, watakapoingia ikulu ndipo watapata resources za kuandaa bajeti yao. TOFAUTISHA BAJETI NA MAPENDEKEZO (PROPOSAL)YA BAJETI

 

[TWIZAMALLYA]

Madame English Learner what is your alternative Hypothesis? and what is your level of significance?

You made me remember QUANTITATIVE TECHNIQUES for decision making.

 

[Lu-ma-ga]

Personally, I very much know these are recommendations. But this can't be a reasons to excuse Zitto/CDM from the mistake. We should project the act into a bigger picture in which CDM is the Official opposition Camp equivalent to the Government on the waiting sit come 2015 and Zitto is their prospective Minister probably for the same position now called "Shadow"

Mi nadhani tuendelee na kiswahili tutaelewana tu, hata mimi nakubaliana na wewe Mh.zitto hawezi kuepuka kikombe cha lawama.Leo hii Mh.Wassira kampa zitto ushauri wa bure kuwa utayarishaji wa bajeti ni vema ukawa shirikishi kuliko kujifungia chumbani na kutokea hapo unaibukia mjengoni, hii si sawa, sawasawa ZITTO??? Ninaanza kupata picha kuwa kuna umuhimu wa kuhoji uhalali wa degree za UDSM hasa za hivi karibuni, maana Nchemba wa ccm kachemka juzi na zitto naye tena nasikia wamesoma mwaka darasa moja.what a shame , its aNOTHER SILLY session.
Nijuavyo mimi utayrishjaji wa bajeti ni particpatory kind of assignment, zitto ulitakiwa kuwashirikisha wenzake wabunge na hata kuomba msaada kwa wasomi.Maana jana usiku kipindi cha malumbano kimeibua vijana weledi zaidi ya kina zitto.

 

[Lu-ma-ga]

Mbona Hamelewi???? Ile haikuwa bajeti mbadala, yalikuwa ni mapendekezo ya nmana ya kuboresha bajeti ya serikali. CHADEMA HAWAKUPELEKA BAJETI MBADALA BUNGENI, WALIPELEKA MAPENDEKEZO YAO, HAYAKUWA NA ULAZIMA WA KUWEKA HIZO DATA ZILIZO MISS. wake up you ****ing ninds, don't mislead the whole mass. Hawana makosa, CHADEMA sio serikali, watakapoingia ikulu ndipo watapata resources za kuandaa bajeti yao. TOFAUTISHA BAJETI NA MAPENDEKEZO (PROPOSAL)YA BAJETI

Wewe yape jina lolote lakini kinachojadiliwa ni makosa ya kiufundi yaliyojitokeza.Dunia nzima imesoma maana yako kwenye mtandao.CDM tuache kutetea uozo kwanza hii ndiyo nafasi pekee ya kumuonya zitto aache ubinafsi na misifa isiyo na tija.Kamati kuu lazima ichunguze ijiridhishe kama hakukuwa na hujuma

 

[OSOKONI]

Mbona Hamelewi???? Ile haikuwa bajeti mbadala, yalikuwa ni mapendekezo ya nmana ya kuboresha bajeti ya serikali. CHADEMA HAWAKUPELEKA BAJETI MBADALA BUNGENI, WALIPELEKA MAPENDEKEZO YAO, HAYAKUWA NA ULAZIMA WA KUWEKA HIZO DATA ZILIZO MISS. wake up you ****ing ninds, don't mislead the whole mass. Hawana makosa, CHADEMA sio serikali, watakapoingia ikulu ndipo watapata resources za kuandaa bajeti yao. TOFAUTISHA BAJETI NA MAPENDEKEZO (PROPOSAL)YA BAJETI

ndugu yangu hata kama ni proposal huwezi ukapendekeza namna ya kutumia tu bila kupendekeza namna ya kupata kifupi kwa lugha rahisi ni kuwa budget ni matumizi na mapato hata kama ikiwa ni ni mapendekezo! mfano mzuri na rahisi kwako uende kwenye kikao cha harusi useme harusi hii itumie shilingi milioni tano bila kupendekeza namna ya ku raise hiyo pesa urudi nyumbani useme eti nilienda kutoa proposal tu?? Any fool can just propose but the question is that proposal realistic? REVENUE$ EXPENDITURE!! Lazima kuwe na balance!!

 

[English Learner]

I do support CDM but my difference to others is that I try hard to maintain a self control from falling into extreme love with everything done by the Party without coordinating my rational thinking. The cost of adoring CDM can easily be estimated to be very huge after 2015. The same people now supporting CDM blindly will be the first to throw stones towards its Leaders and its regime,,,,,,time is coming very fast to give you evidences!

Mbona Hamelewi???? Ile haikuwa bajeti mbadala, yalikuwa ni mapendekezo ya nmana ya kuboresha bajeti ya serikali. CHADEMA HAWAKUPELEKA BAJETI MBADALA BUNGENI, WALIPELEKA MAPENDEKEZO YAO, HAYAKUWA NA ULAZIMA WA KUWEKA HIZO DATA ZILIZO MISS. wake up you ****ing ninds, don't mislead the whole mass. Hawana makosa, CHADEMA sio serikali, watakapoingia ikulu ndipo watapata resources za kuandaa bajeti yao. TOFAUTISHA BAJETI NA MAPENDEKEZO (PROPOSAL)YA BAJETI

 

[MANI]

Mi nadhani tuendelee na kiswahili tutaelewana tu, hata mimi nakubaliana na wewe Mh.zitto hawezi kuepuka kikombe cha lawama.Leo hii Mh.Wassira kampa zitto ushauri wa bure kuwa utayarishaji wa bajeti ni vema ukawa shirikishi kuliko kujifungia chumbani na kutokea hapo unaibukia mjengoni, hii si sawa, sawasawa ZITTO??? Ninaanza kupata picha kuwa kuna umuhimu wa kuhoji uhalali wa degree za UDSM hasa za hivi karibuni, maana Nchemba wa ccm kachemka juzi na zitto naye tena nasikia wamesoma mwaka darasa moja.what a shame , its aNOTHER SILLY session.
Nijuavyo mimi utayrishjaji wa bajeti ni particpatory kind of assignment, zitto ulitakiwa kuwashirikisha wenzake wabunge na hata kuomba msaada kwa wasomi.Maana jana usiku kipindi cha malumbano kimeibua vijana weledi zaidi ya kina zitto.

You mean he should ask for assistance?

 

[Kidatu]

Kosa ni kosa liwe la ccm ama chadema. Chadema haina budi kuomba msamaha kwa hili.

 

[Lu-ma-ga]

You mean he should ask for assistance?

Not only assistance but also to allow other fellow's expertise to prevail during budget preparation, i mean shadow ministerial contributions, the national budget should be prepared by three organs, Mipango, uchumi na fedha na idara za utafiti.Je CDM wanavyo hivyo vitengo???? kama hawana then zitto was supposed to arrange to outsource the expertise.simple

 

[MANI]

Not only assistance but also to allow other fellow's expertise to prevail during budget preparation, i mean shadow ministerial contributions, the national budget should be prepared by three organs, Mipango, uchumi na fedha na idara za utafiti.Je CDM wanavyo hivyo vitengo???? kama hawana then zitto was supposed to arrange to outsource the expertise.simple

But are we sure that he has done this himself only?

 

[Ronal Reagan]

I've tried to convince myself unsuccessfully that a graduate economist with an "A" in Public Finance, analyzer of National Macro and Microeconomics, Shadow Minister of Finance and the senior practitioner of national and a bit international politics can forget the very heart element of the budget equilibrium; sources of income-the budget financing!

In trying to find-out what reason(s) could have caused such a blunder to be done and pass unnoticed along all Party's (CDM) levels only to be realized in the public, I've came-out with the following hypothesis

H1: The act of leaving the mention of sources for the budget financing was a deliberate
act by Zitto to show his Party that:

• They are nothing different to CCM's MPs who do not read documents rather support their adoption into Acts and implementation

• There is no another keen and intelligent person to scrutinize economic issues in CDM apart from Zitto. Hence the Party puts all its trust on Zitto exclusively.

You are all welcome to validate or oppose my Hypothesis

I largely agree with your hypo bar the highlighed section of it.

Simply put, CHADEMA, like any other institution is obviously more than one individual. It has never came to my attention or being made aware of; that Hon. Zitto is party's "exclusive" and "keen" specialist scrutinizer. Far from that we will play offensive role by clinging to the known/public figures as the really and only who makes CDM tick (I refrain from naming names); should we not certainly remember the supporting staff? They are of many specialties and of diverse backgrounds, such a combination is what cause CDM to be such a working effective machine.

 

[Lu-ma-ga]

I largely agree with your hypo bar the highlighed section of it.

Simply put, CHADEMA, like any other institution is obviously more than one individual. It has never came to my attention or being made aware of; that Hon. Zitto is party's "exclusive" and "keen" specialist scrutinizer. Far from that we will play offensive role by clinging to the known/public figures as the really and only who makes CDM tick (I refrain from naming names); should we not certainly remember the supporting staff? They are of many specialties and of diverse backgrounds, such a combination is what cause CDM to be such a working effective machine.

I heard a potential statement issued by Mh.Silinde whilst giving his contribution on the bugdet table in the parliament saying that "the should be an immediate restructuring into the TISS as the organ has become soo personal that it is not protecting the interest of the public to the extent that such a disastrous budget allowed to be table without their intervention.Now come a question should give same stick to CDM????? for such big big blunder????

 

[Bigirita]

H1: The act of leaving the mention of sources for the budget financing was a deliberate
act by Zitto to show his Party that:

Too conclusive..........kilichosahaulika ni jedwali la mapato.....
Hivi ukiwa na ministers, unatakiwa uwe na baba wa kila minister wa kupitia kila wanachofanya?unapowapa majukumu mazito watu, ni kwasababu umewaamini na ukimuamini mtu kwamba anaweza, na ameonyesha kuweza, inatoa nafasi kwa senior wake kufanya mambo mengine...............

Katika hali kama hii, ambayo Jedwali moja limesahaulika kuwekwa kwenye hotuba iliyosomwa, lakini lilikuwepo in the first place sio jambo la ajabu hata kidogo...........
Msitake kueneza propaganda za Zitto the great kwa kutumia Marks za shule kama Mwigule Nchemba.

Aliyesahau kuliingiza jedwali hilo ni Zitto na sio Chadema........na lilikuwepo in the first place.

I've tried to convince myself unsuccessfully that a graduate economist with an "A" in Public Finance, analyzer of National Macro and Microeconomics, Shadow Minister of Finance and the senior practitioner of national and a bit international politics can forget the very heart element of the budget equilibrium; sources of income-the budget financing!

In trying to find-out what reason(s) could have caused such a blunder to be done and pass unnoticed along all Party's (CDM) levels only to be realized in the public, I've came-out with the following hypothesis

H1: The act of leaving the mention of sources for the budget financing was a deliberate
act by Zitto to show his Party that:

You are all welcome to validate or oppose my Hypothesis

 

[AdvocateFi]

Kosa ni kosa liwe la ccm ama chadema. Chadema haina budi kuomba msamaha kwa hili.

mkuu tayari Zzk kashaomba radhi kwa baadhi ya makosa yaliyojitokeza ila kwa ushauri CDM ni lazima iepushe viongozi wake hasa Zitto na mabo ya u-centralization kwenye mambo ya muhimu kama haya.