Is Museveni having an underhand agenda to benefit something from Kenya that Uhuru is unaware of?

[Jospina]

we Tanzanians have one indisputable national characteristis: integrity, openness, Calmness and straightforwad. The problem lies with Museveni primarily. Museveni and Kagame enjoy disputes and even war. That is what they are about. Uhuru is inexperienced. He is being manipulated.I have personally been distributed by Museveni's closeness to Uhuru Kenyatta since the young man came to office. Museveni has never been close to Kenyan leadership the way he is now since 1986 when he came to office.. Uhuru is a new inexperienced leader. Is museveni having an underhand agenda to benefit something from kenya that Uhuru is unaware of? Time will be our witness

 

[Maswala]

You have a point man!

 

[Crocodiletooth]

I doubt on there single visa entry,because kenya is already stable in tourist industries,whats moneys division for?let waits

 

[Dereo]

good post my friend

 

[Koba]

we Tanzanians have one indisputable national characteristis: integrity, openness, Calmness and straightforwad. The problem lies with Museveni primarily. Museveni and Kagame enjoy disputes and even war. That is what they are about. Uhuru is inexperienced. He is being manipulated.I have personally been distributed by Museveni's closeness to Uhuru Kenyatta since the young man came to office. Museveni has never been close to Kenyan leadership the way he is now since 1986 when he came to office.. Uhuru is a new inexperienced leader. Is museveni having an underhand agenda to benefit something from kenya that Uhuru is unaware of? Time will be our witness

mambo mengine mnayoandika ni aibu tupu,what is this? haya ndio matunda ya DIV 5 ya shule za kata..and the worst thing wenzako wanakupa support na kukuona umeandika kitu cha cha maana

 

[anjo]

Who is manipulating who?
Kenyata anatengeneza mazingira ya biashara kwa nchi yake na anaona soko lake linachukuliwa na mwenzake (Tanzania). Kwa asiyefahamu anadhani Uganda na Rwanda wanampeleka ndivyo sivyo!
Kenya inaandaa mazingira mazuri kibiashara. Hilo halitabadilika kutokana na hali halisi ya bandari ya Mombasa kupambana na ya Dar.
Ila inabidi tujitazame kutokana na kushindwa kutumia nafasi nzuri tuliyinayo kwa central corridor.

Anjo

 

[Jaslaws]

mambo mengine mnayoandika ni aibu tupu,what is this? haya ndio matunda ya DIV 5 ya shule za kata..and the worst thing wenzako wanakupa support na kukuona umeandika kitu cha cha maana

Wewe cha maana ulichokiandika ni kipi hapo?attack topic tuuone ujanja wako.sio unambwera mbwera tu..try to be smart young boy:.

 

[ivibration]

Every leader has political advisors in his inner circles. Uhuru is not an exception. Never be dumbfolded into thinking that he is blindly discharging his duties. Every move he makes is highly calculated, including that of diplomatic relations with other countries. Try another 'conspiracy' theory. This one don't seem to work.

 

[Jospina]

Every leader has political advisors in his inner circles. Uhuru is not an exception. Never be dumbfolded into thinking that he is blindly discharging his duties. Every move he makes is highly calculated, including that of diplomatic relations with other countries. Try another 'conspiracy' theory. This one don't seem to work.

then why Mr kaguta is showing interest with Kenya this time? try to think out of the box

 

[East African Eagle]

Every leader has political advisors in his inner circles. Uhuru is not an exception. Never be dumbfolded into thinking that he is blindly discharging his duties. Every move he makes is highly calculated, including that of diplomatic relations with other countries. Try another 'conspiracy' theory. This one don't seem to work.

Kenyatta and his dumb advisers thought Uganda and Rwanda are key players who can help Kenya have a free open trade door to Congo because of their war mighty they have there! Later, they have discovered that this theory is not correct . They have discovered that they have been conned by political con men of Rwanda and Uganda.

Rwanda and Uganda are looking for hidding trenches for their proxies they use in congo in Kenya and arms routes to congo from Mombasa port as arms route from Dar es salaam port is now sour for them.

As long as Uganda and Rwanda don`t have good relationship with Congo the Railway line to be built from Kenya,uganda and end in kigali will certainly end in Kigali and go nowhere else other than kigali.That will be a big loss to kenya because the reason for building such a huge railway line was to go beyond kigali (To enable business from kenya enter Congo).Kigali was not the end of the railway line.Now it appears the posh Railway line project they inaugurated with all traditional dances of all kinds from those three nations will end in kigali.Big loss and shame to all of them.

 

[Ferds]

"We Kenyans will be the lossers in this coalition of the willing without TZ" Odinga and Musyoka

 

[daviey69]

mambo mengine mnayoandika ni aibu tupu,what is this? haya ndio matunda ya DIV 5 ya shule za kata..and the worst thing wenzako wanakupa support na kukuona umeandika kitu cha cha maana

hii kachomoa kwenye comment za wakenya kuhusu hotuba ya rais Wetu aliyotoa bungeni iliyohusu EAC.

 

[Deshbhakt]

Uhuru is perhaps toeing in towards to Museveni as Kenya needs their precious cargo through their ports and also indirectly benefit towards Rwanda as well..

 

[ukweliusemwe]

we Tanzanians have one indisputable national characteristis: integrity, openness, Calmness and straightforwad. The problem lies with Museveni primarily. Museveni and Kagame enjoy disputes and even war. That is what they are about. Uhuru is inexperienced. He is being manipulated.I have personally been distributed by Museveni's closeness to Uhuru Kenyatta since the young man came to office. Museveni has never been close to Kenyan leadership the way he is now since 1986 when he came to office.. Uhuru is a new inexperienced leader. Is museveni having an underhand agenda to benefit something from kenya that Uhuru is unaware of? Time will be our witness

Get busy

 

[Ibrahim300]

Ushirikiano wa wawili hawa umeletwa kwa kuwa kenya na uganda kuna mafuta...si eti museveni anajileta karibu na uhuru bali ni uhuru mwenyewe ikizingatiwa kua kenya inafaidi nchi ya uganda kupitia kodi inayotozwa bidhaa za uganda kupitia bandari ya mombasa...uhuru lazima anyenyekee ili asipoteze fursa hio...
Pia ukiangalia vizuri utagundua kuwa mafuta yatakayopatikana uganda yatasafishwa nchini kenya....
Nadhani ndio sababu uhuru amejileta karibu na museveni kama kitu kimoja...Tanzania wangepata nafasi hio wakati fulani ambapo nchi ya uganda ilikuwa ikilalama kuhusu uhusiano mbaya kati ya kenya na uganda...Kenya sahizi wananyenyekea kwa waganda.

 

[Bukyanagandi]

mambo mengine mnayoandika ni aibu tupu,what is this? haya ndio matunda ya DIV 5 ya shule za kata..and the worst thing wenzako wanakupa support na kukuona umeandika kitu cha cha maana

Mkuu KOBA, Kashanga alicho andika ni kweli tupu - mbona wakati wa enzi za Moi na Kibaki M7 alikuwa amekaa kimya i.e was not that close na Kenyan Govt katika phases zote mbili nilizo taja hapo juu - swali ni je, kwa nini M7 alikuwa anawaogopa Wazee hao wawili i.e Kibaki na Moi, M7 alijua fika si rahisi ku-manipulate watu wa lika za kina Moi na asingeweza kumuingia Raila kama angeshinda kiti cha Urais nchini Kenya kwa hiyo M7 alipo ona Kenyatta kashinda kiti cha Urais na Kenyatta ni mdogo sana kiumri na yuko naive katika mambo mengi(sisemi naive kwa nia mbaya) basi ndio M7 akaona hiyo ni Godsent opportunity yaku-strike Urafiki wa kinafiki na Uhuru Kenyatta ili yeye na PK watimize ndoto zao za siku nyingi tangu wakiwa wapiganaji msituni - hilo Kenyatta alikuwa alijui, sasa hivi ndio naona kama amelishtukia kidogo, Kenyatta hawezi kuwa amemtuma Waziri wake wa mambo ya nje kuja Tanzania bila SABABU, amekwisha wasoma wapenda vita hawa na wavurugaji wa mambo wakubwa.

Mara zote namuona M7 anajitia kimbele mbele sana anajifanya ndiye Kiongozi mwenye busara wa Kuwaongoza wenzake i.e UK na PK, anatumia ukaribu wake wa kulazimisha kumpotosha Uhuru Kenyattta wa watu!

M7 na mwenzake (PK) wanataka kupenyeza ajenda zao za siri, hapa KOBA atadai kwamba it is all about BIASHARA, hii si kweli.

 

[DAR si LAMU]

we Tanzanians have one indisputable national characteristis: integrity, openness, Calmness and straightforwad.

...sikuwa nafahamu kama sifa hii tunayo.

The problem lies with Museveni primarily. Museveni and Kagame enjoy disputes and even war. That is what they are about. Uhuru is inexperienced.

...don't fool yourself.

He is being manipulated.I have personally been distributed by Museveni's closeness to Uhuru Kenyatta since the young man came to office. Museveni has never been close to Kenyan leadership the way he is now since 1986 when he came to office.. Uhuru is a new inexperienced leader.

...surely, you don't know these men.

Is museveni having an underhand agenda to benefit something from kenya that Uhuru is unaware of? Time will be our witness

...alipotaka reli toka Tanga, alikuwa na "underhand agenda"?

 

[DAR si LAMU]

mambo mengine mnayoandika ni aibu tupu,what is this? haya ndio matunda ya DIV 5 ya shule za kata..and the worst thing wenzako wanakupa support na kukuona umeandika kitu cha cha maana

...koba, go easy on the guy. tusichoke kuelimishana.

 

[DAR si LAMU]

Kenyatta and his dumb advisers thought Uganda and Rwanda are key players who can help Kenya have a free open trade door to Congo because of their war mighty they have there! Later, they have discovered that this theory is not correct . They have discovered that they have been conned by political con men of Rwanda and Uganda.

...this is dumber.

Rwanda and Uganda are looking for hidding trenches for their proxies they use in congo in Kenya and arms routes to congo from Mombasa port as arms route from Dar es salaam port is now sour for them.

...what happened? are you saying, we used to conduit arms to DRCongo, and now we don't?

As long as Uganda and Rwanda don`t have good relationship with Congo the Railway line to be built from Kenya,uganda and end in kigali will certainly end in Kigali and go nowhere else other than kigali.That will be a big loss to kenya because the reason for building such a huge railway line was to go beyond kigali (To enable business from kenya enter Congo).Kigali was not the end of the railway line.Now it appears the posh Railway line project they inaugurated with all traditional dances of all kinds from those three nations will end in kigali.Big loss and shame to all of them.

...haijawahi semwa kwamba reli hiyo itafika Congo. pili, Kenya si mjenzi -as in financing- wa the whole thing.

...ndugu, acha chuki, focus kwenye issue at hand. lets see, kipi bora? mizigo kubebwa na malori hadi Kigali au na treni? do you happen to know the math behind railway lines?

 

[DAR si LAMU]

Mkuu KOBA, Kashanga alicho andika ni kweli tupu

...Kashaga got a number of things wrong.

mbona wakati wa enzi za Moi na Kibaki M7 alikuwa amekaa kimya i.e was not that close na Kenyan Govt katika phases zote mbili nilizo taja hapo juu

...wakati wa Medvedev, uhusiano wa Marekani na Urusi ulikuwa warm, as the presidents -wa US na Russia- had good chemistry. this matters a lot.

swali ni je, kwa nini M7 alikuwa anawaogopa Wazee hao wawili i.e Kibaki na Moi, M7 alijua fika si rahisi ku-manipulate watu wa lika za kina Moi na asingeweza kumuingia Raila kama angeshinda kiti cha Urais nchini Kenya

...you are underestimating M7. sijawahi ona anaogopa mtu.

kwa hiyo M7 alipo ona Kenyatta kashinda kiti cha Urais na Kenyatta ni mdogo sana kiumri na yuko naive katika mambo mengi(sisemi naive kwa nia mbaya) basi ndio M7 akaona hiyo ni Godsent opportunity yaku-strike Urafiki wa kinafiki na Uhuru Kenyatta ili yeye na PK watimize ndoto zao za siku nyingi tangu wakiwa wapiganaji msituni

...humjui Kenyatta vizuri. let me ask you. for how long Kenyatta has been a businessman and a leader in goverment? wakati sisi tunaona wanapoteza muda na kufanya unafiki kwa wasiyoyajua, wao wanajenga nchi zao. tuendelee ku kalaga bao!

M7 na mwenzake (PK) wanataka kupenyeza ajenda zao za siri, hapa KOBA atadai kwamba it is all about BIASHARA, hii si kweli.

...people are different, si kila mtu amekalia politiki kama akina sie! let me ask you. ni kiasi gani unafikiri Kenya itaingiza kwa kuwa geti la bidhaa za Uganda na Rwanda? this is no rocket science, its simple math!