Is Kenya Preparing For War?

[Mwana wa Mungu]

the weapona are not for kenyan, its obvious the government of kenya is not that stupid to spend all that money to buy weapons that they don know where they are goin to use them, hao kenya ni vibaraka wa west kuliko nchi yoyote ktk ukanda uu wa africa mashariki, izo silaha ni za south sudan kujiandaa na vita na north sudan kama south sudan wakikataliwa kujitenga!

if this is the case, then nawapongeza kenya. perhaps someday southern sudan will be part of east africa. what do you think about this?

 

[Idimi]

the weapona are not for kenyan, its obvious the government of kenya is not that stupid to spend all that money to buy weapons that they don know where they are goin to use them, hao kenya ni vibaraka wa west kuliko nchi yoyote ktk ukanda uu wa africa mashariki, izo silaha ni za south sudan kujiandaa na vita na north sudan kama south sudan wakikataliwa kujitenga!

Of course mchezo huu wa kuuza silaha maeneo ya kivita kwa nchi zetu upo siku nyingi sana kwa ukanda huu wa maziwa makuu, ingawa viongozi wetu wamekuwa wakikanusha habari hizi kila mara. Hata ile filamu ya Sauper ya Darwin's Nightmare iligusia suala hili, na uhusiano wake na biashara ya samaki.

 

[Monsignor]

We have always known this...the problem with the Kenyan Millitary is that its very secretive.We even know that Kenya Air force is the second best in Africa save for South Africa.Ask members of the Military and they will tell you even the Sudan or Ethiopia will not threaten Kenya.The call the Ugandan Army.....the un-Modernised bush Army,and the Tanzanian Army they call it Young Policemen from the south

General mrututu, how come your so called "modern army" chickened over the Migingo Island row. M7 scared the hell out of you. With your second best air force in Africa you were shitting in your pants because of the un. modernized bush army.

 

[Geza Ulole]

General mrututu, how come your so called "modern army" chickened over the Migingo Island row. M7 scared the hell out of you. With your second best air force in Africa you were shitting in your pants because of the un. modernized bush army.

This is what Kenyan Army does


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Queries raised over military choppers that have yet to fly

President Kibaki's helicopter takes off at Kiganjo, Nyeri. The President uses the French-manufactured Puma helicopters that are reconfigured for VIP usage. Chinese Z-9 helicopters delivered in January have allegedly not flown. Photo/FILE
By DAVID OKWEMBAH
Posted Saturday, March 27 2010 at 21:00

In Summary

• DoD says Z-9 aircraft "not grounded", but they've been on the ground since arrival

Did Kenya buy defective helicopters from China? That is the question being asked by military engineers after it became apparent that eight Chinese choppers delivered to Nairobi in January have not been flown.
The helicopters were bought from a company that has previously supplied planes to Kenya.
However, the ministry of Defence said the helicopters had not been grounded but did not explain why they have not taken to the air three months after they were delivered.
"We wish to state that so far we do not have any Z-9 helicopters which are grounded," the DoD spokesman Bogita Ongeri said in response to enquiries about the aircraft. But engineers at DoD said the military utility helicopters had never been airborne since they were delivered in January.
Sources at DoD said several of the eight helicopters were meant to beef up the VIP fleet that is usually at the disposal of the President, Prime Minister and the Vice-President.
Currently, President Kibaki uses the French-manufactured Puma helicopters that are reconfigured for VIP usage.
As military utility helicopters, the Z-9 have a variety of roles including ground attack, air assault, cargo, reconnaissance and troop transport. They can carry 10 armed soldiers.
VIP fleet
Engineers note that while they expected the "new" helicopters to reinforce the VIP fleet, they were disappointed that they had not flown three months after arrival.
"For three months we have waited for them to take to the skies but to no avail," our source, who cannot be named as he is not authorised to speak to the media, said.
The Harbin Z-9 is a Chinese military utility helicopter licence-built version of the French Eurocopter Dauphin.
The first Z-9 flew in 1981, and was built in China by the Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corp from components supplied by Aérospatiale.
This is the same French firm that supplied the Puma helicopters still in service for the Kenya Air Force.
The latest armed version, the Z-9WA, was introduced in 2005 and has night attack capabilities with an under-nose low-light TV and infra-red observing and tracking unit.
Information on the purchase of the choppers is contained in the latest factsheet of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), which monitors worldwide purchase and transfer of military hardware.
According to SIPRI, the four Z-9WA armed version helicopters were ordered last year by the ministry of Defence and delivered in January.
The DoD termed the purchase of the helicopters a prerequisite for readiness on the part of the military.
Mr Ongeri said the acquisition of the helicopters is one of a series of steps aimed at modernising the armed forces.
"We have an obligation to equip our soldiers with the very best, most modern equipment/systems our nation and budget can provide," he said.
Without revealing how the country procured the aircraft, DoD said contracts in regard to procurement of military equipment the world over take a long time.
Last week, SIPRI disclosed that Kenya had spent more than Sh45 billion on military equipment.
This was the third largest budgetary military expenditure in Eastern and Southern Africa.
Kenya's expenditure
African countries that exceeded Kenya's expenditure were South Africa and Angola.
Last year, DoD was on the spot when it insisted that tanks imported from the Ukraine belonged to Kenya while it was generally assumed the end user was Southern Sudan.
The department promised to take journalists on a trip to show the tanks in action but, more than a year since the pledge, nothing has come of it.
Since President Kibaki took office late in December 2002, Kenya has continually looked to China and Eastern Europe countries for its arms and military hardware.
In 2006, Kenya bought an estimated 400 troop-carrying vehicles from China in a deal that sparked questions from other suppliers.
A year later, Kenya bought 32 armoured personnel carriers from China.
Earlier, the country had received Y-12 military utility planes from the same country.
Queries over the state of the Chinese choppers came as the Sunday Nation learned that the much-awaited Jordanian fighter jets that cost taxpayers Sh1.6 billion are expected in the country next month.
Meanwhile, DoD has said it is in negotiations with the Spanish firm awarded the tender to build a warship for the Kenya Navy in May 2003.
Mr Ongeri said DoD has entered into arbitration with the ship manufacturers, Astilleros Gondan, and the company awarded the deal, Euromarine Industries.
The Defence and Foreign Relations Committee chaired by the then Laikipia West MP, Mr G.G. Kariuki, had in 2007 asked the government to hire independent experts to evaluate the naval ship's works and services done as a basis for working out payments to the shadowy Euromarine Industries.
"Other options the government may consider include nullifying existing contracts and renegotiating new terms and entering into new well thought-out agreements with a clear exit strategy to safeguard public funds," the report says.
The committee recommended that those who deliberately make the government enter into irregular and lop-sided procurement contracts where Kenya stands to lose money, image and international standing should be dealt with firmly.
Naval ship contract
The committee urged the government to bear in mind the need to protect public funds in whatever action it takes on the naval ship contract.
Although DoD declined to state how much money had been paid to Euromarine Industries, independent sources put the figure at Sh2.3 billion.
Euromarine Industries is reported to be demanding a staggering Sh1.8 billion for same ship.
The naval ship deal is among the 18 dodgy contracts that the government either terminated or suspended after the Anglo Leasing and Finance scandal blew up.
Euromarine Industries was awarded the contract to construct the ship for a staggering Sh4.1 billion (Euros 51,997,000).
The firm is said to have proposed a medium term financial package that was to ease the budgetary burden on the government.

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[Geza Ulole]

Queries raised over military choppers that have yet to fly
By DAVID OKWEMBAH
Posted Saturday, March 27 2010 at 21:00




In Summary

• DoD says Z-9 aircraft "not grounded", but they've been on the ground since arrival

Did Kenya buy defective helicopters from China? That is the question being asked by military engineers after it became apparent that eight Chinese choppers delivered to Nairobi in January have not been flown.
The helicopters were bought from a company that has previously supplied planes to Kenya.
However, the ministry of Defence said the helicopters had not been grounded but did not explain why they have not taken to the air three months after they were delivered.
"We wish to state that so far we do not have any Z-9 helicopters which are grounded," the DoD spokesman Bogita Ongeri said in response to enquiries about the aircraft. But engineers at DoD said the military utility helicopters had never been airborne since they were delivered in January.
Sources at DoD said several of the eight helicopters were meant to beef up the VIP fleet that is usually at the disposal of the President, Prime Minister and the Vice-President.
Currently, President Kibaki uses the French-manufactured Puma helicopters that are reconfigured for VIP usage.
As military utility helicopters, the Z-9 have a variety of roles including ground attack, air assault, cargo, reconnaissance and troop transport. They can carry 10 armed soldiers.
VIP fleet
Engineers note that while they expected the "new" helicopters to reinforce the VIP fleet, they were disappointed that they had not flown three months after arrival.
"For three months we have waited for them to take to the skies but to no avail," our source, who cannot be named as he is not authorised to speak to the media, said.
The Harbin Z-9 is a Chinese military utility helicopter licence-built version of the French Eurocopter Dauphin.
The first Z-9 flew in 1981, and was built in China by the Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corp from components supplied by Aérospatiale.
This is the same French firm that supplied the Puma helicopters still in service for the Kenya Air Force.
The latest armed version, the Z-9WA, was introduced in 2005 and has night attack capabilities with an under-nose low-light TV and infra-red observing and tracking unit.
Information on the purchase of the choppers is contained in the latest factsheet of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), which monitors worldwide purchase and transfer of military hardware.
According to SIPRI, the four Z-9WA armed version helicopters were ordered last year by the ministry of Defence and delivered in January.
The DoD termed the purchase of the helicopters a prerequisite for readiness on the part of the military.
Mr Ongeri said the acquisition of the helicopters is one of a series of steps aimed at modernising the armed forces.
"We have an obligation to equip our soldiers with the very best, most modern equipment/systems our nation and budget can provide," he said.
Without revealing how the country procured the aircraft, DoD said contracts in regard to procurement of military equipment the world over take a long time.
Last week, SIPRI disclosed that Kenya had spent more than Sh45 billion on military equipment.
This was the third largest budgetary military expenditure in Eastern and Southern Africa.
Kenya's expenditure
African countries that exceeded Kenya's expenditure were South Africa and Angola.
Last year, DoD was on the spot when it insisted that tanks imported from the Ukraine belonged to Kenya while it was generally assumed the end user was Southern Sudan.
The department promised to take journalists on a trip to show the tanks in action but, more than a year since the pledge, nothing has come of it.
Since President Kibaki took office late in December 2002, Kenya has continually looked to China and Eastern Europe countries for its arms and military hardware.
In 2006, Kenya bought an estimated 400 troop-carrying vehicles from China in a deal that sparked questions from other suppliers.
A year later, Kenya bought 32 armoured personnel carriers from China.
Earlier, the country had received Y-12 military utility planes from the same country.
Queries over the state of the Chinese choppers came as the Sunday Nation learned that the much-awaited Jordanian fighter jets that cost taxpayers Sh1.6 billion are expected in the country next month.
Meanwhile, DoD has said it is in negotiations with the Spanish firm awarded the tender to build a warship for the Kenya Navy in May 2003.
Mr Ongeri said DoD has entered into arbitration with the ship manufacturers, Astilleros Gondan, and the company awarded the deal, Euromarine Industries.
The Defence and Foreign Relations Committee chaired by the then Laikipia West MP, Mr G.G. Kariuki, had in 2007 asked the government to hire independent experts to evaluate the naval ship's works and services done as a basis for working out payments to the shadowy Euromarine Industries.
"Other options the government may consider include nullifying existing contracts and renegotiating new terms and entering into new well thought-out agreements with a clear exit strategy to safeguard public funds," the report says.
The committee recommended that those who deliberately make the government enter into irregular and lop-sided procurement contracts where Kenya stands to lose money, image and international standing should be dealt with firmly.
Naval ship contract
The committee urged the government to bear in mind the need to protect public funds in whatever action it takes on the naval ship contract.
Although DoD declined to state how much money had been paid to Euromarine Industries, independent sources put the figure at Sh2.3 billion.
Euromarine Industries is reported to be demanding a staggering Sh1.8 billion for same ship.
The naval ship deal is among the 18 dodgy contracts that the government either terminated or suspended after the Anglo Leasing and Finance scandal blew up.
Euromarine Industries was awarded the contract to construct the ship for a staggering Sh4.1 billion (Euros 51,997,000).
The firm is said to have proposed a medium term financial package that was to ease the budgetary burden on the government.



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Some buddies here were yaping Kenya has a "might army" behind SA! Hehehe all the Ondiekis here, i think they have the best money making machine in the army for the goons who are pick pocketing ur coffers and leaves you with mere propaganda ati you have the best equiped army ! How comes Museveni is trashing you right and left and you keep up guppling own saliva?

 

[Ndahani]

Hakuna hiyo issue ya kujitungia eti wana geshi kal baada ya SA! Na waangola watasemaje, waliopigana zaidi ya miaka ishirini kwa mizinga, ndege na nchi kavu?
Sometimes it is good to be a dreamer!

 

[Jammu Africa]

We need all these armaments for we have some sworn enemies around and we can not
just sit around and search for that animal known as peace.

weather we have the best equipped armed force around( our standards) is not the issue.

The issue is that as a country, we have to take notice of those likes of Alshababs who
have kept issuings threats directly to Kenya.

These maggots ati alshabab, tutawanyorosha wakileta nyokonyoko zao hapa, tutawapeleka
mbio na hizo tu-granades tumepitwa na wakati.

Sasa iko hivi, hizo helicompter si ati hazi fly, ni back up bwana, wacha kuzubaa.

It would be a shame for people like Kenyans to fight some fugitive like Shababs using army.
unless thre is need to do that.

AP's iko, munafikiri tutatumia zile helicompters zetu ambazo huwa anguka anguka ovyo
na ku-kill mawari wetu,

Tutatumia specials ones with NIGHT VISIONS, sasa hawa shababs baada ya swala zao
za usiku na kula wali na kulala, 9 Administration police x Ten copters = 90 AP's haaaoooo
angani, tunawaona nyote usiku sazile mwa ngusa ngusa, yaani papasa papasa.

Jeshi litakua ngangari hapa na ma-commanders wote waki wasiliana, kwa chochote, hamna
habari tumekwisha pata Jet figters za kisasa ambazo zote ishirini zaweza kuangamiza mji
wowote Africa kwa dakika chache.(shh siri, nyanya yangu alifanya kazi Kenyatta defense
committee )

Sasa hawa AP's wanawatokezea hawa vifaranga wamelalala na kuwazunguka wote na
kuwanyang'anya huto tu-silaha twao twa upuzizi.

Hatuna haja na kuua hawa wajinga ndipo tutatuma AP's.

Hapakosi kati ya hawa watu wenye kushugulika na ununzi wa hivi vifaa via ki vita wenye
mikono ya kuwashwa washwa, lakini hiyo ni kawaida na cha msingi ni kushugulika na the
likes of these Vinyangarika na hatupigani nao, la hasha, tutawashika, tuwanyang'anya hizo
takataka twao na serikali iliopop kuendelea.

Wakasaidiwa na yeyote basi, kuweni tayari kwa movie na weka ya Nigeria na Holliwood kado.

Usiku na mchana, tutatandika wote, na mkubuke damu ni mzito kuliko maji, kwani kaka Ombash
yuko huko , the whitest house.

Hatutashugulika na vita kama watu hawatatutisha kila siku bwana.

Mnataka tunyamaze tuu na kukaa tumezubaa na wakati si wakati tunajikuta tumeshambuliwa by
the likes of these maggots then you laugh at us ati,

'hua wajifanya ati wana uwezo na sasa wamewezwa na akina Alshabab', a a, tuko one step a head, ngangari, ngangari msee, let them just try, any one, anything strange, tuta waswaga kama kima.

 

[Babuyao]

wakenya mbona siku hizi wamekuwa na ubabe sana? Kuna nini? Ubabe huu wanautoa wapi? Na kujisifu kwingi!

 

[Kituko]

wakenya mbona siku hizi wamekuwa na ubabe sana? Kuna nini? Ubabe huu wanautoa wapi? Na kujisifu kwingi!

kutojiamini na uoga wa kuwaogopa Waganda, pale migingo island

 

[Fungu la kukosa]

It is supprisingly to learn that Kenya is currently preparing to wage war against unknown neghbouring country. But if it will do that, definetly it will roune her econmy. Her economic situation will be like that of Tanzania in the late 1970s when it waged war against Uganda. The war lasted two years and much forexies were spent a day for war operation. Ever since the econmy of Tanzania has been deeclining every year and there is no way to escape that diserster. Please Kenya do not do that

 

[Ben Saanane]

-Museven ndiyo kiboko yao tu,tunajivunia mwanafunzi wetu.najua some kenyan brothers hapa watajiskia kulia kwi kwi kwi!

By the way,sisi ni brothers hakuna haja ya kutumikia ugomvi kiasi hiki.Smatta,Nomasana,Nyaralego......where are thou?

 

[Jammu Africa]

I think you got us confused, yes we were looking for donor funding to bankroll the constitution making process which is an expensive affair and the provision provided by the budget was not enough. So in you twisted way of thinking you wanted us to channel the funds allocated to the defense ministry(One of the most important ministry in a country) to other uses. So to you buying of millitary hardware is not good if we cant fund our own constitution, if that was the case, then countries like Tanzania would never buy any weapons in our lifetime simply because 90% of their budget is bankrolled by donors, and you shamelessly critisize us for borrowing money to get a new constitution, nanyi mwazungusha bakuli kila siku mkitafuta misaada huku mna alot of minerals ambazo zingeweza ku fund hiyo budget yote na kuwe na surplus. You trying to remove the speck in our eyes while you have a log in yours? Such a shame

Smatta, i always laugh aloud when i hear what people say here about our country.

I wish we had all the natural minerals they have in their country.

How can you eat well when your neighbor is threatening and saying directly to your
eyes that he will come at you and finsh you.

Mwa Afrika huamini ati upole ni uoga.

It started with Idi Amin when he claimed that some parts of Kenya belonged to Uganda
and everyone thought he was just joking.

Then, he went on and on and kept on repeating this claim until Kenyatta dared him.

Kenyatta gave a very long speech on Radio addressing Idi Amin.

Amin heard Kenyatta and shifted to Tanzania and that is how he was handled by Nyerere.

Why couldn't Nyerere opt for peace when the OAU begged for a peaceful solution?
He even rejected to meet the OAU delagation because he wanted to teach Amin a lesson.
Did he use so much resorces on war which would have helped people in Tanzania, yes.
How reach was Tanzania at that for the government to send its police force to Kampala
because they had already disrupted all that was there of Iddi Amin.

They want us to ignore the threats posed by many around us for them to laugh at us later

'ati wamechapwa na Al-shabab'.

Ebu mtu ajaribu, wacha hiyo experience wanasema, ngani na vifaa vya 1950's na 60's
ha ha ha.

Vita vya kisasa ni vifaa.

Came Museveni , started testing Moi and he sent the AP's to the borders and Museveni
akazima na kutulia.

Museveni started again his wicked tricks after Kibaki coming into the presidency of this
country.

Things got so bad that Trains taking goods to Uganda were stopped by people with mere
hands by uprooting the rails na Museveni akaomba musamaha.

Museveni angecharazwa na raia wa Kenya, si jeshi. Siku hizi ana adabu.

Now there is these vinyangarikas ati al-shabab threatening us.

Oh, what an advice from our neigbours that we should give food to those ones without and
forgets our enemies around who keep on testing us.

Tutacharaza yeyote analete nyokonyo zake kwetu. Kama mtu anataka kutandikwa
sasa aje, tuna hasira sana na wengi wajihadhari.

Al-shabab, ahh Administration police iko na wata handle hawa wajinga, hatutatumia jeshi kwa
hivi viroboto , AP's na kuwanyoa hizo ndevu za ujinga na kama yeyote atasaidia tutamkuta mpaka mashimoni kwao,

NIGHT VISIONS ziko bana.

Using kshs45 out of kshs 600 billion of the Kenyan butget ,2009-2010 on arments is not
enough consindering how neighbors around huona kama sisi ni burukenge.

We should have set 100 bn Kshs and make sure watu wame acha hio tumchezo twao
twa paka na panya.

Kenyans are behind the project 'kujihami' 100% hata wengi wangelitaka Kibaki kua chapchap
na tukisema, shika ana anakamata kitu, siku rega rega.

We have never gone to war any time with anyone and we have never wished to have any and
time has come for us to be a step ahead na wacha mutu ajaribu kidogo atashangaa.

Sisi hapa Kenya kila mtu anafaa kua na chakula chake. Nikufundisha mwanadamu
uzembe mkubwa kumpa chakula kila siku kwani hatukamui watu maziwa kama ng'ombe.

Humpa ng'ombe chakula kwani utapata maziwa kutoka kwake. Hilo ni somo la
kibiashara.

 

[Lole Gwakisa]

We have always known this...the problem with the Kenyan Millitary is that its very secretive.We even know that Kenya Airforce is the second best in Africa save for South Africa.Ask members of the Millitary and they will tell you even the Sudan or Ethiopia will not threaten Kenya.The call the Ugandan Army.....the un-Modernised bush Army,and the Tanzanian Army they call it Young Policemen from the south

You make me laugh you poor kabete boy!
That arsenal will have to be used on the Lous , Kikuyus and Kalenjins before it makes any sense to the ordinary Kenyan.
Learn the hard facts of history-it is only UNITED MEN who can wage wars.

 

[Nyaralego]

-Museven ndiyo kiboko yao tu,tunajivunia mwanafunzi wetu.najua some kenyan brothers hapa watajiskia kulia kwi kwi kwi!
Wala hatujiskii kulia...We will sit back and watch you all make assumptions in here. Museveni needs to clean his backyard first (the Baganda, a thorn in his flesh).
Remember PEV, we were that mean to each other! Imagine what we can do to an enemy from the outside? All we have to do is send in the 'mungikis' and the 'talibans' and other terrosrist ('Al Qaeda') named gangs and the show will be over.

By the way,sisi ni brothers hakuna haja ya kutumikia ugomvi kiasi hiki.Smatta,Nomasana,Nyaralego......where are thou?

Ben, I am here watching you!!!
What is this obsession with Kenyans? Ina onekana ya kwamba tunakunyima raha sana bwana Ben...We are here waiting for to finish "putting your foot in your mouth", then we will reply.

 

[TIMING]

wakuu hili la sub-standard war supplies and equipment lipo nchi karibia zote za subsaharan africa... hata sisi tumo humohumo na hata huyo mu7

its corruption, dumping place for them and many other factors kama vile uwezo mdogo wa technical personnel wetu etc vinavyochangia...

I am sad kwamba badala ya kujisifia on quality procurements, tumeanza kushangilia kwamba neighbour kachemsha naye kanunu feki etc... ni ileile siasa ya kijijini ya kutamani wote wawe na nyumba za tope,

what pleasae do we get kama kaka na dada zetu wa nchi jirani wanakufa njaa halafu corrupt leaders wananunua vitu feki from China??

Lets for once love each other and unite against corrupt system --- that will yiled positive for all EAF countries

hawa wazunguna wachina wanatutumia kama sites za ku-dispose products zao

 

[firstcollina]

I don't think that my friend is thinking a right thing. The fact here is about Unity, Togetherness Spirity together with Reasons. At that age Nyerere won because he had all that and that why he said in his speach "sababu tunayo, nguvu tunazo na uwezo tunao...." but what are you trying to say here is just in-direct threating from neighbour countries.... crazy! What if prime minister says NO WE CAN'Tand president say YES WE CAN where there rest of Kenyan will relay on?!!!!! Think big

 

[Smatta]

General mrututu, how come your so called "modern army" chickened over the Migingo Island row. M7 scared the hell out of you. With your second best air force in Africa you were shitting in your pants because of the un. modernized bush army.

Bw. Monsignor, I know you've heard of strategic interest, If you havent then the Kenya Uganda situation is a classic example. You cant expect Museveni to keep poking us in the eye while we sit comfortably without any attempted retaliation, and we have elite squads in our military barracks with modern military hardware, just know that Uganda has oil.

 

[Ben Saanane]

Ben, I am here watching you!!!
What is this obsession with Kenyans? Ina onekana ya kwamba tunakunyima raha sana bwana Ben...We are here waiting for to finish "putting your foot in your mouth", then we will reply.

acha hasira

 

[Isimilo]

A real winner of war does not depend on purchased arsenals. it should be able to produce its own tech and capabilities.

 

[firstcollina]

wakuu hili la sub-standard war supplies and equipment lipo nchi karibia zote za subsaharan africa... hata sisi tumo humohumo na hata huyo mu7

its corruption, dumping place for them and many other factors kama vile uwezo mdogo wa technical personnel wetu etc vinavyochangia...

I am sad kwamba badala ya kujisifia on quality procurements, tumeanza kushangilia kwamba neighbour kachemsha naye kanunu feki etc... ni ileile siasa ya kijijini ya kutamani wote wawe na nyumba za tope,

what pleasae do we get kama kaka na dada zetu wa nchi jirani wanakufa njaa halafu corrupt leaders wananunua vitu feki from China??

Lets for once love each other and unite against corrupt system --- that will yiled positive for all EAF countries

hawa wazunguna wachina wanatutumia kama sites za ku-dispose products zao

The point is kwanini tukubali kutumika the way watakavyo wao?!!! Feki and genuine is northing the question is "Je nivyalazima na haraka kwa kiasi hicho????????????!!!!!!!!!"