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Gray Mgonja, mwenye kuonja vinavyoonjwa!

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Ben Saanane, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. Ben Saanane

    Ben Saanane Verified User

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    Heshima yenu wakuu,

    Kila nikisikia na kusoma sakata zima la BOT na jinamizi zima la ufisadi jinsi linavyotishia uhai wa Taifa letu Tukufu Tanzania na wananchi wake,huwa ninapata uchungu mkali kwani kwa dhamana na Ridhaa ya watanzania waliokua wanahimizwa kwa kampeni chungu nzima za kuhamasisha uandikishaji na upigaji kura na hatimaye kuwapa baadhi dhamana halali za kuongoza achilia mbali wale wliotumia njia haramu kuhalalisha ridhaa bado kwa miaka mingi sasa tumejitahidi kuvumilia aidha kutokana na asili za malezi yetu au kwa kuzidiwa na vitisho,dharau , kejeli na matusi yaliyopindukia kutoka kwa viongozi walewale waliotokana na Dhamana yetu huku wakimis-use the term "Gorvernment servant".Eti wao ni watumishi wa serikali .

    Pia,naona itakua ni jambo la busara na la ujasiri na la kuonyesha mfano wa kukataa na kupambana na mfumo au kasumba ya kutoreact dhidi ya mawaziri wanaotusababishia umaskini.Leo hii ukiangalia Japan serikali yao ina nidhamu kwani kuna kasumba ya kuwajibisha au ya mhusika kuwajibika mwenyewe pale linapotokea suala linalomuhusu mtumishi wa serikali ktk kuhusika na ubadhirifu.Ukiangalia nchi zilizopiga hatua Afrika hgakuna utovu mkubwa wa nidhamu kama uliopo hapa Tanzania.

    Hivyo basi kama tunayo nia ya kujenga taifa lenye uchumi mkubwa linaloheshimika duniani na linalojitahidi kuinua hali ya maisha ya wananchi wake basi sisi kama kikundi flani chenye maslahi tunaweza kuanzia hatu hiyo huku tukimulika wale ambao wanabomoa huku tulikoanza kujenga,basi kwenye hili sakata la BOT kama tunataka kumkaripa na kumwajibisha Bi.Zakia Meghji,basi hatuna Budi kumuwajibisha Basil Pesambili Mramba na Katibu wa wizara Mhe.Mgonja kwani hawa kwa nafasi zao wangeweza kuwa kiini cha kuokoa maisha ya Watanzania kadhaa waliofarikia au kuwa maskini ambao walisababishwa na upotevu wa fedha hizo.

    Kwa mfano huyu mhe.Mramba amekua mtu wa matusi na ambaye ameliingizia taifa hasara kubwa huku akitoa majibu ya kejeli na Matusi kwa watanzania waliompa dhamana ya kuwa hapo alipo

    Rejea kauli zake za kutetea Ununuzi wa ndege ya Rais,Rada nk
    Rejea utetezi wake wa safari za Rais
    Rejea hotuba za mkutano wake wa kisiasa huko Jimboni kwake Rombo baada ya Bunge kupitisha bajeti tata na iliyokua na udhaifu mkubwa akiwa waziri wa Miundombinu hapo mwaka juzi.

    Kwa jamii iliyostaarabika na yenye kuangalia huko mbele tuendako na kujal hali ya vizazi vyetu vya baadae na KUFUTA KABISA huu utovu wa nidhamu wa viongozi wetu basi baada ya huyu mheshimiwa kuruka vizingiti vyote basi ni muda muafaka kwetu kuanzisha kampeni au mchango wowote wa kumwajibisha waziri huyu.

    Mtanzania yoyote mwenye uchungu na nchi yako jitolee kwa jasho na Damu kuliokoa Taifa letu.Kumbuka Amerika ilijengwa kwa Moyo wa wananchi na viongozi wenye uchungu na nchi yao na wenye uzalendo wa kweli.Sasa tuanzie hapa tulipo kwa Tanzania inawezekana tu.

    Mungu ibariki Tanzania

    Naomba kutoa hoja
     
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    Mbangaizaji Senior Member

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    Mkuu,
    Utamaduni wa kujiuzu has gone with the wind. Tukianza kutoa list ya wanatakiwa kujiuzulu nchi si ni wengi tu Msolla(Sakata la Ukraine, Karamagi(Buzwagi),Sitta(Hoja ya BOT),Ballali(Ye si ndo alitoa mpaka press conference).

    Mimi nathani kurisign is a big honor for mafisadi. They should be fired and sent pale Segerea. Lakini nani wa kumfunga paka kengele?

    "THERE IS HONOR AMONG THIEVES"-Geofrey Archer.
     
  3. Ben Saanane

    Ben Saanane Verified User

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    Mkuu nadhani tukianza na pressure kama aliyofanyiwa Ballali hata mkuu wa kaya ataogopa na atamfukuza kazi.

    Pia si unakumbuka ya Omari Mahita? Ilibidi mkuu aepuke lawama na kumtolea nje

    Sasa na hawa inabidi siafu tuandamane
     
  4. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    Kama kuna jina la Mtanzania??? ambaye jina lake linatajwa katika madili machafu ya nchi hii na ambaye hadi hivi sasa hakuna mwenye kuthubutu kumwajibisha ni huyu Bwana.
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    Jina lake linatokea sehemu nyingi katika mazingira ya kifisadi hadi inawezekana neno ufisadi linapotajwa basi jina lake haliko mbali. Hata hivyo licha ya kutajwa kuanzia kwenye:

    IPTL
    Richmond
    Tangold
    Mwananchi
    n.k

    Huyu bwana hagusiki; anaendelea kutia sahihi mikataba mibovu kama alivyofanya hivi karibuni alipoidhisha udhamini wa serikali kwenye dege la Airbus baada ya kuchelewesha udhamini huo kwa miezi karibu sita bila maelezo ya kueleweka na kusababisha ATC ilipe faini ya mamilioni ya shilingi.

    Nashindwa kuelewa huyu ndugu ana ubia gani na serikali? Je ni kitu gani kitatokea nchini endapo atatimuliwa kazi au kupangiwa shughuli nyingine isiyohusiana na fedha?

    It boggles my mind!! Kwa sababu kama ningekuwa fisadi, ningependa kuwa Gray Mgonja.

    On the other hand though... kuanguka kwake kuko karibu sana na ningekuwa yeye ningeomba nipumzike na kujiondoa taratibu kwani vya jikoni vinasema vimeiva..
     
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    Indume Yene JF-Expert Member

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    Huyu jamaa ni fisadi mkubwa kama Dalali oops I meant Balali. JK anajua kabisa kuwa akimtimua jamaa anaweza kunyea kambi. Unaweza kusikia kateuliwa kuwa balozi somewhere ili mradi tu afiche kile anachokijua.
    Labda tutumie njia ile kama tuliyoitumia kwa Chenge kumpa vidonge JK ili aone juwa wananchi are very serious about UFISADISM. Huyu jamaa sioni tofauti yake na Balali au Chenge. Tofauti kubwa inaweza kuwa ni ya KIJIOGRAFIA lakini mambo mengine wanafanana.
     
  6. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    27.09.2007 0910 EAT
    Mgonja kama Karamagi

    *Naye kuwashitaki Slaa, Mwanahalisi, Printech

    Na Reuben Kagaruki

     
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    Lambardi JF-Expert Member

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    hahahhah inatia sisimua sana wajuaa tulijua its matter of 3 days ngoma ingekuwa inaunguruma mahakamani duuu amekimbiaa kivuli chake?mbona hatujamsikia tenaa??au alikuwa anamtutishia nyau?jamaa ni kweli hagusiki..ila nilishasema huko nyuma kuwa ndani ya sirikali.........wote wanaogopanaaaaaaaa.......hakuna anaeweza kumgusaaaa mwenzake maana wote wanalindanaa na wanajuanaa maovu yaoo
     
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    Wambandwa JF-Expert Member

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    Kituumacho wengi, ni kwa nini TAKUKURU, MKUU WA POLISI, WASIMDHIBITI HUYU BWANA, au wanamgawo wanagawiwa?
     
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    Phillemon Mikael JF Gold Member

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    .....huyu jamaa hana uchungu ..mkewe na watoto wanatesa hapo VEGAS ..usa,ambako wanamiliki nyumba ..so hapa yupo peke yake tu,

    huku wife akitesa na dogodogoz wa kikenya , Ghana, na Nigerians... kwenye jiji la mastaa... ambako tayari ni RESIDENT..ITS matter of time kabla na yeye haja wajoin huko...

    lakini another side of the coin jamaa wanamsifia kuwa ana akili nyingi ...ndio maana hadi leo anadunda!!
     
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    Fidel80 JF-Expert Member

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    Nasikia huyu jamaa nooma sana viongozi wote hapo serikalini akina Luhanjo wanamgwaya sana amejizindika balaa kamekula mizizi balaa hakuna anaye mgusa huyu atakuwepo na ataendelea kuwepo.
    Jk mwenyewe kasalimu amri richa ya kelele zote tunazopiga lakini kenyewe rahaaaaa mstarehe....Haka ndo kabingwa ka kusuka dili chafu serikalini JK mwenyewe akamemsukia dili lileeee la uchaguzi kamechota mihela jamaa huyoo kashindwa kwa tsuname sasa nani atakaye mtoa wakati yeye ana ubia na uraisi wa JK kwa 50% katadumu tu panga pangua.MM naona haka kajamaa dawa ni kukapiga mawe au tukaaue tu kwa styre ileile wanayo ulia viongozi kwani iwa hata maji iwa hawaombi mtu anachomoka huku akitembea kesho majibu ya madakitari mtasikia shinikizo la damu hii ndo dawa.
     
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    KakindoMaster JF-Expert Member

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    Hii mimi sina uhakika nalo. Inawezekana kwa wale ambao tayari ameishakuwa nao ndio anawazidi.

    Ukiwa FISADI hata kama una akiri kiasi gani sidhani kama hiyo inatakiwa iwe hoja.

    Akili ni pale ambapo inatumika katika kuleta maendeleo, lakini ikitumika ktk upande wa pili hiyo siyo akili tena.
     
  12. Pundamilia07

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    Mzee Mwanakijiji,
    Najua utakasirika kama ambavyo ulifanya katika thread nyingine zinazohusu ATCL ambapo nilionyesha wasiwasi wangu wa kuhujumu maoni ya wachangiaji kutokana na uswahiba au undugu ulionao na David Mattaka.

    Sihitaji PhD au microscope kujua kuwa lengo lako ni kufikisha ujumbe wa Mattaka kwa Mgonja. Si nia yangu kutetea mabaya ya Mgonja (kama yapo) lakini ipo haja ya kupiga vita ufisadi kama huu wako.
     
  13. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    Pundamilia,

    na wewe umeanza kuwa "Chinga", naomba tafadhali onesha ushahidi ulio nao wa undugu wangu na Matakka maana hii ni mara nyingine umerudia jambo hili. Matakka ni fisadi kama mafisadi wengine tu.
     
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    Mwanakijiji,

    Chapa mzigo. Hizo hoja achana nazo kabisa.

    Ukiona mtu kama huyu anakuletea naomba nitupia mie mpira nianze kumla chenga!
     
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    Kudi Shauri Senior Member

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    This may not have a bearing on this issue of longevity of Mr. Mgonja in the system but in this case of ATC it may well be the fact that Mgonja and Mataka [ATC CEO] were classmates in Kibaha from Form I to IV in 1965 to 68 may have catalyzed the process of signing for the Airbus plane after the departure of Chenge. Ironically another student in the same school was J Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete who was in Form I to IV during 1965 to 69.
     
  16. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    mamaaaa hizi ndizo zinaitwa data...

    hivyo matakka, mgonja, na kikwete ni Schoolmates eh..?
     
  17. Gembe

    Gembe JF-Expert Member

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    Mzee Mwanakijiji,

    Connecting to the dot.. Mwanyika alimaliza Mlimani mwaka 1973 huku chenge alimaliza pale pale Faculty of Law 1975..unadhani kwanini wanapata wapi viburi hivi??na kipindi hiki ndicho Jk naye alikuwapo pale Mlimani.They know each other since then.
     
  18. Mzee Mwanakijiji

    Mzee Mwanakijiji Platinum Member

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    duh.. yaani kuna kacircle fulani ka ushirika... kwa hiyo yawezekana tunachovuna sasa kilipandwa zamani sana...
     
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    Gembe JF-Expert Member

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    Hili suala mie nilishawahi kulitilia mashaka sana,mpakwa mwaka juzi baada ya Jk kumaliza kuhutubia bunge kwa mara ya kwanza pale dodoma,Katika Hafla ya usiku ule nikaja kugundua hawa waheshimiwa ni marafiki wa muda mrefu pamoja na Mkuu wetu wa majeshi wa sasa...

    ukichimba zaidi utajua urafiki wa Lowassa na Rostam ulianzia wapi,na utajua ni kwanini Rostam wakati Mwalimu alipokuwapo alikuwa hana sauti katika Chama.utamfahamu na aliyemharibu Mkapa.

    Ngoja nikwambie kwanini mwalimu alimwamini sana Mkapa,wakati mkapa yuko pale foreign aliweza kudhibiti ubadhirifu uliokuwa unatokea pale na pia alikuwa akirudisha pesa hazina kama zikibadi tufauti na mawaziri wengine ambao walikuwa wansema Ruksa kutumia pesa iliyobaki,hapa akiwamo na yule ambaye kura zake hazikutosha 1995,yule rrafiki yake na mkurugenzi wa Tanzania Explorerers,nmazungumzia msanii na Muungwana ambaye ni rafiki yake na Lowassa.Mwanakijiji unamfahamu??
     
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    Gaijin JF-Expert Member

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    wenyewe wanajiita vichwa vya mlimani.
    vichwa kweli kweli, maana wanahujumu kwenda mbele. wanafanya nchi kama chakula cha mchana kwenye canteen ya hcuo, wanagaiana vitoweo na chachandu, huku wanapiga soga kwa staarehe.
    ama kweli, wajinga ndo waliwao
     
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