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Why is the car giant Toyota not Toyoda? Why the largest automaker is Toyota

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by Geza Ulole, Mar 2, 2010.

  1. Geza Ulole

    Geza Ulole JF-Expert Member

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    Why is the car giant Toyota not Toyoda? Why the largest automaker is Toyota Posted Tuesday, March 2 2010 at 00:00

    and not Toyoda
    Akio Toyoda was in Washington to deal with the crisis at car giant Toyota, the company set up by his grandfather more than 70 years ago.
    But why did the company change its name from Toyoda to Toyota?
    The change is largely down to the fact that the word Toyota is associated with the lucky number eight, according to the company's English-language website.
    After learning this, we felt more explanation was needed.
    The Toyota Motor Corporation has its origins in a company that manufactured automated looms for Japan's weaving industry.
    "Toyota originated from Toyoda Industries (Kariya) when they started its automotive division in 1933," explains Dr Seijiro Takeshita, director of investment banking firm Mizuho International, London.
    "Toyoda (in English) and its kanji version were used in the beginning, but as the company started exporting heavily into the US, it wanted an emblem that would work in Japanese and English.
    "In 1936, the company held a competition for a new name. Toyota was a popular choice among many."
    According to the company, it received some 27,000 entries.
    It says the winning design led to a change in the name of the automobiles and plants from "Toyoda" to "Toyota."
    The name was chosen "because the number of strokes to write Toyota in Japanese (eight) was thought to bring luck and prosperity," it goes on.
    The presentation of kanji is highly symbolic, and an art form in itself. The name Toyoda is represented by two ideographs- the first "toyo" means "abundant", while da means "rice field".
    The kanji for "da" can also be read as "ta".
    Translate Toyoda into katakana and the result contains 10 "brush strokes".
    But change it to Toyota, and the result in both katakana and hiragana is eight strokes
    "Eight is a lucky number in Japanese because when you write it in Chinese characters, the shape of the character is wider towards the bottom," explains Mika Kizu, a lecturer in Japanese at London's School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS).
    "So people think that it indicates a thing or person is gradually prospering."
    The "lucky eight" theory is certainly an interesting one, says Dr Christopher Hood, of Cardiff University's Japanese Studies Centre.
    He says that it is more usual in Japan to see the company's name written in the katakana script- unlike, say, Nissan, which is more often written in kanji.
    He also points out another "eight" link with the company.
    The company has strong ties with the Japanese Association football club Nogoya Grampus Eight football, which is based in Nagoya-about an hour from Toyota's headquarters in Toyota City -and plays home games at the Toyota Stadium.
    The "eight" part of the team's name comes the maru-hachi (circle eight), which is the city's official symbol.
    While the company's version of the symbolism certainly sounds good, Soas's Dr Kizu doubts that this would have been the deciding factor in changing Toyoda to Toyota.
    "I personally doubt that the founder of Toyota or his successor chose "Toyota" rather than "Toyoda" because of the number of strokes. The Japanese normally care about the number of strokes for the Chinese characters [kanji] but not for hiragana," she told the BBC News website.
    A number of Japan experts told the BBC news website that the number eight is culturally not that significant in Japan.
    It is more of a Chinese phenomenon (hence the start date and time for the 2008 Beijing Olympics, on 8 August, at at 8.0, they said.
    And Dr Hood said the BBC News website's phone call to him had prompted him to do "some more digging on the Japanese websites and the eight theory doesn't seem to get a mention".
    "Japanese sites mention more the internationalisation of the company," he says.
    "It was originally called Toyoda, it seems, but later changed to Toyota (although it was felt that some in America continued to call it Toyoda for some time).
    "Timing wise this happened around the same time that the town of Koromo, where the company was based, changed to be Toyota."
    In 1959, the city of Koromo, in the Aichi Prefecture, was renamed Toyota City, after the company that aided its growth in terms of job creation.


    This is too much nonsense now, while the so claimed the largest EA media runs a story on why Toyota and not Toyoda, the real giant media out there talks on what transpired between Mr Toyoda and the US senators or between Mr Toyoda and the Chinese govt. The worst thing is the story is even copied from BBC!

    Is this what we need to hear from the much boasted "largest EA media"! I tell you guys, EA has a long way to go! may be as an advice if i were a journalist i would run a more constructive story on how the West attempts to assasinate a brand "Toyota"! and not this nonsense that doesn't worth a penny! poor businessdaily
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    Baba_Enock JF-Expert Member

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    what exactly is your problem here?
    - journalism
    - copy&paste
    - contents of the article
    - or simply a hater
  3. Geza Ulole

    Geza Ulole JF-Expert Member

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    all of them above except the last one, when the so calling themselves good journalists run their mouths on other media that do copy and paste, that would be the last thing i would expect from the media house that that boasts all the prestige!

    Mind you as the business paper, should at least be talking of the main current issues e.g apart from Toyota's, the likes of how the sterling pound currency has drastically plunged compared to US dollar and not the stories that can be found on google i.e. why Toyota and not Toyoda! ohh that's too shallow my friend! that media house needs good analyists and not the likes of Obbo!
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    RealTz77 JF-Expert Member

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    Mr geza ulole its a good article many of us arent aware of the two da and ta in jap. So dont give food to people at the same time you doubt the cook!
  5. Geza Ulole

    Geza Ulole JF-Expert Member

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    really? did that help you at this particular moment? how about knowing the bad publicity the US is running over Toyota brands! how about knowing the politics behind trade between Japan and the US that influenced the current overblown reaction on some minor error on Toyota clutches that afterall the company has recalled all the cars to rectify the problem! is this what you call fair competition? what if it was an American company? are we trying to believe that Japanese products have become substandards? how many of such incidences have happened so far? how about the effects of consumers' confidence on Toyota cars? how about protectionism cum scare tactics? This is pure texas cum cowboy hooliganism the US is running on eroding the consumers confidence on the World's biggest and most trusted brand!
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    gud article, let hater do what they like most
  7. Geza Ulole

    Geza Ulole JF-Expert Member

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    The fun thing is when an opinion on our neighbors is aired it automatically becomes a hate! when this neighbor of ours raise an opinion it becomes a forced constructive opinion on a lagging behind neighbor! can you pls show me where is the hate over there? and can you pls prove to me a need to show why name Tyota and not Toyoda right now? instead of talking on the current crisis! that's lack of creativeness that media likes to pride oneself with!