Why Christianity is at a high decline in Europe at the expense of Islam?

Mike_ said:
Jesus resurrection and ascension are sure historical event,
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Was there a Jesus? Of course there was a Jesus – many!


The archetypal Jewish hero was Joshua (the successor of Moses) otherwise known as Yehoshua (Yeshua) bin Nun (‘Jesus of the fish’). Since the name Jesus (Yeshua or Yeshu in Hebrew, Iesous in Greek, source of the English spelling) originally was a title (meaning ‘saviour’, derived from ‘Yahweh Saves’) probably every band in the Jewish resistance had its own hero figure sporting this moniker, among others.

Josephus, the first century Jewish historian mentions no fewer than nineteen different Yeshuas/Jesii, about half of them contemporaries of the supposed Christ! In his Antiquities, of the twenty-eight high priests who held office from the reign of Herod the Great to the fall of the Temple, no fewer than four bore the name Jesus: Jesus ben Phiabi, Jesus ben Sec, Jesus ben Damneus and Jesus ben Gamaliel. Even Saint Paul makes reference to a rival magician, preaching ‘another Jesus’ (2 Corinthians 11,4). The surfeit of early Jesuses includes:

Too strange to be a coincidence!

According to the Biblical account, Pilate offered the Jews the release of just one prisoner and the cursed race chose Barabbas rather than gentle Jesus.

But hold on a minute: in the original text studied by Origen (and in some recent ones) the chosen criminal was Jesus Barabbas – and Bar Abba in Aramaic means ‘Son of the Father’!

Are we to believe that Pilate had a Jesus, Son of God and a Jesus, Son of the Father in his prison at the same time??!!

Perhaps the truth is that a single executed criminal helped flesh out the whole fantastic fable.

Gospel writers, in scrambling details, used the Aramaic Barabbas knowing that few Latin or Greek speakers would know its meaning.



Jesus ben Sirach. This Jesus was reputedly the author of the Book of Sirach (aka 'Ecclesiasticus, or the Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach'), part of Old Testament Apocrypha. Ben Sirach, writing in Greek about 180 BC, brought together Jewish 'wisdom' and Homeric-style heroes.

Jesus ben Pandira. A wonder-worker during the reign of Alexander Jannaeus (106-79 BC), one of the most ruthless of the Maccabean kings. Imprudently, this Jesus launched into a career of end-time prophecy and agitation which upset the king. He met his own premature end-time by being hung on a tree – and on the eve of a Passover. Scholars have speculated this Jesus founded the Essene sect.

Jesus ben Ananias. Beginning in 62AD, this Jesus had caused disquiet in Jerusalem with a non-stop doom-laden mantra of ‘Woe to the city’. He prophesied rather vaguely:

"A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against the whole people."

– Josephus, Wars 6.3.


Arrested and flogged by the Romans, Jesus ben Ananias was released as nothing more dangerous than a mad man. He died during the siege of Jerusalem from a rock hurled by a Roman catapult.

Jesus ben Saphat. In the insurrection of 68AD that wrought havoc in Galilee, this Jesus had led the rebels in Tiberias ("the leader of a seditious tumult of mariners and poor people" – Josephus, Life 12.66). When the city was about to fall to Vespasian’s legionaries he fled north to Tarichea on the Sea of Galilee.

Jesus ben Gamala. During 68/69 AD this Jesus was a leader of the ‘peace party’ in the civil war wrecking Judaea. From the walls of Jerusalem he had remonstrated with the besieging Idumeans (led by ‘James and John, sons of Susa’). It did him no good. When the Idumeans breached the walls he was put to death and his body thrown to the dogs and carrion birds.

Jesus ben Thebuth. A priest who, in the final capitulation of the upper city in 69AD, saved his own skin by surrendering the treasures of the Temple, which included two holy candlesticks, goblets of pure gold, sacred curtains and robes of the high priests. The booty figured prominently in the Triumph held for Vespasian and his son Titus.
 
Quran is the last and the final version of the God's revelations. Almost everything which is in Christianity is in Islam but not all in Islam is in christianity. This is because Islam has touched every aspect of human life. Allah says in Quran that, the only true religion before him is Islam.

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Mama Debora said:
Uislamu dini ya haki. Hata mie nataman kuingia. Tatizo mume wangu!
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Mume wako amefanyaje dada? Yeye ni Muislam au Mkristo? Je anakukataza? Kumbuka, mwisho wa Maisha ya hapa duniani ni wewe utakayeingia kaburini peke yako na utaulizwa wewe juu ya maisha yako ya hapa duniani. Wewe umebaini ukweli na njia iliyo sahihi, fanya maamuzi sasa. Ni kipi bora, kumfurahisha Mwanadamu umchukize Mungu au Achukie mwanadamu umpendeze Mungu? Slimu na uufuaye uislamu kwa dhati, usipo nishukuru hapa duniani utanishukuru siku tukiwa mbele ya Allah Muumba wetu.

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Kinyungu said:
Can you put here that line of the bible that say gays are same as eunuchs?
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Timeless Truths About Eunuchs

Depiction of a Eunuch Officer About 1749.

The term eunuch, in history and scripture, frequently referred to gay men.
The term eunuch, in history, also referred to what we now call lesbians, recognized as such by ancient Jewish rabbis.

Eunuchs-gay men, in history and scripture, are often anatomically whole, not physically castrated.

Eunuchs in history and scripture are frequently, gay men who feel no sexual attraction toward women. Some eunuchs are gay.

Eunuchs are gay men, in history and scripture, who are specifically excluded, by Jesus, from the Adam and Eve marriage paradigm.

Eunuchs are gay men, who sometimes married women, in order “to pass,” to fit in culturally.

Eunuchs-gay men, historically, were recognized by Rabbis of ancient Judaism, by ancient Roman law and by ancient Christian preachers, as physically intact men, who were born with no sexual attraction toward women, what one ancient preacher, Gregory of Nazianzus, referred to as natural chastity.

Eunuchs are gay men in scripture, and were usually outstanding, honorable, brave, Godly men, who occupied a place of great responsibility and spiritual blessing. Do you remember the first Ethiopian eunuch in the Bible in Jeremiah 38:7-13; 39:15-18? He was God's great eunuch hero!

Eunuchs are gay men in early church history, who were welcomed into the Eastern church, as pastors, presbyters, deacons and bishops. Some eunuchs are gay.
 
Jagina said:
Timeless Truths About Eunuchs

Depiction of a Eunuch Officer About 1749.

The term eunuch, in history and scripture, frequently referred to gay men.
The term eunuch, in history, also referred to what we now call lesbians, recognized as such by ancient Jewish rabbis.

Eunuchs-gay men, in history and scripture, are often anatomically whole, not physically castrated.

Eunuchs in history and scripture are frequently, gay men who feel no sexual attraction toward women. Some eunuchs are gay.

Eunuchs are gay men, in history and scripture, who are specifically excluded, by Jesus, from the Adam and Eve marriage paradigm.

Eunuchs are gay men, who sometimes married women, in order “to pass,” to fit in culturally.

Eunuchs-gay men, historically, were recognized by Rabbis of ancient Judaism, by ancient Roman law and by ancient Christian preachers, as physically intact men, who were born with no sexual attraction toward women, what one ancient preacher, Gregory of Nazianzus, referred to as natural chastity.

Eunuchs are gay men in scripture, and were usually outstanding, honorable, brave, Godly men, who occupied a place of great responsibility and spiritual blessing. Do you remember the first Ethiopian eunuch in the Bible in Jeremiah 38:7-13; 39:15-18? He was God's great eunuch hero!

Eunuchs are gay men in early church history, who were welcomed into the Eastern church, as pastors, presbyters, deacons and bishops. Some eunuchs are gay.
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I don't need interpolation, I want to read myself from a bible. Just show me which book, chapter and a verse says eunuchs are gays. Simple.
 
Kinyungu said:
I don't need interpolation, I want to read myself from a bible. Just show me which book, chapter and a verse says eunuchs are gays. Simple.
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IF Your church doesnt want interpolation , then stay by your church.

By THE way , does your church have some eunuchs as far as you understand?
 
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