Wanyama ambao sio binadamu, waliingiaje katika adhabu ya kifo baada ya Eva/Hawa na Adam kutenda kosa la kula tunda?

[Jr B]

Habari wana JF nimekuwa nikijiuliza hili swali,naomba wataalamu wa mambo mnisaidie kujibu hilo.

Maana ukisoma maandiko ni kwamba maagizo ya kula tunda yalitolewa na Mungu kwa mwanadamu kuwa asile tunda la mti wa ujuzi wa mema na mabaya(utashi) na akila hakika atakufa.. na kweli baada ya kula tunaona kifo kikaingia duniani.

Vipi kwa wanyama ambao sio binadamu na ambao mpaka leo hii hawana utashi(kwa maana ya kwamba hawakula tunda la mti ule) nao wanakufa pia,kosa lao ni nini?

Naomba wajuzi wa mambo mnisaidie kujibu hili

 

[Zeus1]

Swali fikirishi kweli

 

[Jr B]

Ngaja tusubiri majibu toka kwa wataalamu wa mambo

 

[Von Bismarck]

Da! Tafakuri ya leo
Watakujibu kwa naadharia

 

[kina kirefu]

HAWANA DHAMBI MANA HAWANA UTASHI
Walifanyalo siokosa hawana utashi kama ujuavyo mwenye utashi aliambiwa akakaidi mungu anahuruma pamoja mwanadamu alimkaidi alimtengenezea kizazi chawanyama ili kiwe kitoea chake mwanadamu duniani...dhambiyao tulishaibeba tayari

 

[black hawk87]

Habari wana JF nimekuwa nikijiuliza hili swali,naomba wataalamu wa mambo mnisaidie kujibu hilo.

Maana ukisoma maandiko ni kwamba maagizo ya kula tunda yalitolewa na Mungu kwa mwanadamu kuwa asile tunda la mti wa ujuzi wa mema na mabaya(utashi) na akila hakika atakufa.. na kweli baada ya kula tunaona kifo kikaingia duniani.

Vipi kwa wanyama ambao sio binadamu na ambao mpaka leo hii hawana utashi(kwa maana ya kwamba hawakula tunda la mti ule) nao wanakufa pia,kosa lao ni nini?

Naomba wajuzi wa mambo mnisaidie kujibu hili

Kila kilicho na uhai kitaonja umauti

 

[Napoleone]

Habari wana JF nimekuwa nikijiuliza hili swali,naomba wataalamu wa mambo mnisaidie kujibu hilo.

Maana ukisoma maandiko ni kwamba maagizo ya kula tunda yalitolewa na Mungu kwa mwanadamu kuwa asile tunda la mti wa ujuzi wa mema na mabaya(utashi) na akila hakika atakufa.. na kweli baada ya kula tunaona kifo kikaingia dunian...

Mlilishwa matango pori....hyo stori si ya ukwel ndugu yangu....haiko logical.

 

[Mshana Jr]

Habari wana JF nimekuwa nikijiuliza hili swali,naomba wataalamu wa mambo mnisaidie kujibu hilo.

Maana ukisoma maandiko ni kwamba maagizo ya kula tunda yalitolewa na Mungu kwa mwanadamu kuwa asile tunda la mti wa ujuzi wa mema na mabaya(utashi) na akila hakika atakufa.. na kweli baada ya kula tunaona kifo kikaingia duniani.

Vipi kwa wanyama ambao sio binadamu na ambao mpaka leo hii hawana utashi(kwa maana ya kwamba hawakula tunda la mti ule) nao wanakufa pia,kosa lao ni nini?

Naomba wajuzi wa mambo mnisaidie kujibu hili

Kwenye Bible takatifu kuna mstari unasema na wanyama wataangamia kwa dhambi zako ewe mwanadamu

 

[Jr B]

HAWANA DHAMBI MANA HAWANA UTASHI
Walifanyalo siokosa hawana utashi kama ujuavyo mwenye utashi aliambiwa akakaidi mungu anahuruma pamoja mwanadamu alimkaidi alimtengenezea kizazi chawanyama ili kiwe kitoea chake mwanadamu duniani...dhambiyao tulishaibeba tayari

Swali langu hapo sio kuhusu kuwa na dhambi..kwa nini nao wanakufa wakati hawakutenda kosa lililopelekea kifo kwa mwanadamu?

 

[matinee]

Kwenye Bible takatifu kuna mstari unasema na wanyama wataangamia kwa dhambi zako ewe mwanadamu

Type huo msitari (hicho kifungu)

 

[Jr B]

Kwenye Bible takatifu kuna mstari unasema na wanyama wataangamia kwa dhambi zako ewe mwanadamu

Dah! Yaani shughuli kosa kafanya binadamu na mbuzi naye asiye na utashi anaangamia kwa kitu ambacho hajausika nacho kabisa.

 

[Jr B]

Kila kilicho na uhai kitaonja umauti

Andiko gani hilo..naomba unipe maandiko ya kidini yanayo sema hivyo. Pia kama kila kilicho na uhai kitaonja mauti vp kwa wale wanaomsubiri Yesu kuja tena duniani..hatawakuta walio hai ili kumpokea?

 

[Enlightened one]

Habari wana JF nimekuwa nikijiuliza hili swali,naomba wataalamu wa mambo mnisaidie kujibu hilo.

Maana ukisoma maandiko ni kwamba maagizo ya kula tunda yalitolewa na Mungu kwa mwanadamu kuwa asile tunda la mti wa ujuzi wa mema na mabaya(utashi) na akila hakika atakufa.. na kweli baada ya kula tunaona kifo kikaingia duniani.

Vipi kwa wanyama ambao sio binadamu na ambao mpaka leo hii hawana utashi(kwa maana ya kwamba hawakula tunda la mti ule) nao wanakufa pia,kosa lao ni nini?

Naomba wajuzi wa mambo mnisaidie kujibu hili

Mwanadamu

Habari wana JF nimekuwa nikijiuliza hili swali,naomba wataalamu wa mambo mnisaidie kujibu hilo.

Maana ukisoma maandiko ni kwamba maagizo ya kula tunda yalitolewa na Mungu kwa mwanadamu kuwa asile tunda la mti wa ujuzi wa mema na mabaya(utashi) na akila hakika atakufa.. na kweli baada ya kula tunaona kifo kikaingia duniani.

Vipi kwa wanyama ambao sio binadamu na ambao mpaka leo hii hawana utashi(kwa maana ya kwamba hawakula tunda la mti ule) nao wanakufa pia,kosa lao ni nini?

Naomba wajuzi wa mambo mnisaidie kujibu hili

Adam was supposed to be the ruler of the entire creation of god(physical one) ,thus the fall of a leader automatically is the fall of the entire kingdom ,thus the sentence pronounced to adam included his entire kingdom and his subjects(i.e animals,plants etc) ,and the salvation of the leader is the salvation of the entire kingdom,that why we believe that after the judgement day everything would be restored to its original glory/state

 

[Jr B]

Mwanadamu

Adam was supposed to be the ruler of the entire creation of god(physical one) ,thus the fall of a leader automatically is the fall of the entire kingdom ,thus the sentence pronounced to adam included his entire kingdom and his subjects(i.e animals,plants etc) ,and the salvation of the leader is the salvation of the entire kingdom,that why we believe that after the judgement day everything would be restored to its original glory/state

Mfano wako unashawishi kidogo..

 

[Jr B]

Mwanadamu

Adam was supposed to be the ruler of the entire creation of god(physical one) ,thus the fall of a leader automatically is the fall of the entire kingdom ,thus the sentence pronounced to adam included his entire kingdom and his subjects(i.e animals,plants etc) ,and the salvation of the leader is the salvation of the entire kingdom,that why we believe that after the judgement day everything would be restored to its original glory/state

Pia nimepata kitu kingine hapo "everything would be restored to its original glory/state" kwa maana ya kwamba duinia itaanza upya kama Mungu alivyokuwa anataka iwe..so kumbe pia yale maisha baada ya kifo yatakuwa hapa hapa duniani na sio mbinguni kama wengi tunavyoamini?

 

[Enlightened one]

Pia nimepata kitu kingine hapo "everything would be restored to its original glory/state" kwa maana ya kwamba duinia itaanza upya kama Mungu alivyokuwa anataka iwe..so kumbe pia yale maisha baada ya kifo yatakuwa hapa hapa duniani na sio mbinguni kama wengi tunavyoamini?

Kama kila kitu kitakuwa restored to it's original state ,maana yake hakutakuwa na kifo (death would literally be eradicated) na kama hakuna kifo hakuna hiyo kitu unayoisema "life after death/maisha baada ya kifo" wanadam watakuwa Immortals na wataishi in their rightful place(earth) without death

 

[Jr B]

Kama kila kitu kitakuwa restored to it's original state ,maana yake hakutakuwa na kifo (death would literally be eradicated) na kama hakuna kifo hakuna hiyo kitu unayoisema "life after death/maisha baada ya kifo" wanadam watakuwa Immortals na wataishi in their rightful place(earth) without death

Nimekuelewa lakini sasa hivi watu wengi wanaamini kuwa kuna kifo an'then hukumu kama ulivyosema hapo(judgement) na baada ya hukumu wengi tunaamini kuwa kuna kwenda mbinguni,ndipo nikauliza kuwa ishu ya kwenda mbinguni baada ya hukumu sio kweli ila baada ya hyo hukumu na kila kitu kurudi katika orijino yake maisha hayo ya baadaye yatakuwa hapa hapa duniani na sio mbinguni kama tunavyo amini? Labda uniambie kwa muono wako suala la kwenda mbinguni likoje?

 

[Mshana Jr]

Type huo msitari (hicho kifungu)

Nakitafuta kama sio kwenye Bible basi kuna wimbo wa notten unaimba hivyo

 

[Mshana Jr]

Dah! Yaani shughuli kosa kafanya binadamu na mbuzi naye asiye na utashi anaangamia kwa kitu ambacho hajausika nacho kabisa.

Ni sawa na laana tuu .. Kaharibu mtu mmoja tuu tena wa kizazi cha kwanza laana inaenda mpaka kizazi cha nne

 

[ANKOJEI]

ktk viumbe vyote ni binadamu pekee ambaye angeishi milele, hata hivyo neno kutokufa halimaanishi kufa kimwili linamaana zaidi ya jinsi tujuavyo.
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