Video: Mawakili waishangaa Polisi kwa Lissu na dereva wake kutohojiwa; wadai wanaweza kuhojiwa hata kwa kutumia teknolojia ya mawasiliano


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Mungu hadhihakiwi jombaa be careful
bashite bwana who are you unajidai sana wewe kikaragosi munuka damu za watu wakati watu wanakulia timing unapenda sana kutisha watu i have told you you will never turn forty your just a ghost satan miili yote uliyoiwaisha kuondoka duniani ndivyo nawe utavyowahi
 
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Mtakalia majungu tu miaka yote npaka mzeeke, mkizidi sana mnasukumwa nyuma ya nondo kame ze chair of all times Mbowe
nyie muliomsukuma Mbowe nyuma ya Nondo ndio munahangaika yeye anakomboa taifa hajajifunza kunya kwenye vyoo vya kuvuta ukubwan amezaliwa anaogelea raha lakini he has devoted his life to serve this nattion hangaika wewe unayedhani itambadirisha kitu mshamba wa karomije chakula cha watu mpuuzi mkubwa hivi GSM wameacha kukulegeza
 
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Sijawahi ona au sikia mtu anahojiwa kienyeji namna hii.
Umapomuhoji mtu, physical presence, kuongea nae face to face na kumsikia hata anavyovuta pumzi ni muhimu zaidi. Kwenye video conference au njia nyingine hupati true coorperation.
Wewe ni mtu wa ajabu sana!..hii njia inatumiwa na mataifa kadhaa na imesaidia sana katika kukusanya ushahidi uliofanikisha kutatua mashauri kibao. Huu ndio ulikuwa msingi wa kupitisha sheria hii ktk bunge la Tanzania. We jogoo_dume unaishi wapi!
 
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Wewe ni mtu wa ajabu sana!..hii njia inatumiwa na mataifa kadhaa na imesaidia sana katika kukusanya ushahidi uliofanikisha kutatua mashauri kibao. Huu ndio ulikuwa msingi wa kupitisha sheria hii ktk bunge la Tanzania. We jogoo_dume unaishi wapi!
Labda ushahidi wa civil case ndio wanatumia hiyo kitu.
Hii sio ishu ya ustawi wa jamii, ni mtu kutoq ushahidi wa assassination attempt. He's numero uno witness!
 
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Sasa wanashindwa nini kwenda kuwahoji?

Kwanini hata Nairobi hamkwenda?

Na ni kwanini Polisi hawakumuhoji dereva wa Lissu pale hospitali ya mkoa wa Dodoma siku ile ya tukio?
Police walipanic na hawakuwa na plan B, wao walijua Lissu atauwawa tu.
 
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Sijawahi ona au sikia mtu anahojiwa kienyeji namna hii.
Umapomuhoji mtu, physical presence, kuongea nae face to face na kumsikia hata anavyovuta pumzi ni muhimu zaidi. Kwenye video conference au njia nyingine hupati true coorperation.
Aah, unataka kumwona na anavyovuta pumzi siyo.....you call physical presence??

Maana yake unapingana na sheria na kama kawaida ya ujinga wenu, mnataka kutumia hisia zenu na mawazo yenu kuwa ndiyo sheria!!

If what you want is just "physical presence" na usikie mihemo ya mtu, then why didn't you do when he was at Dodoma hospital or Nairobi? And why are you not doing now because he's in Brussels, Belgium?

Ulivyo "mjinga", waweza kusema hatuwezi kupoteza fedha (kana kwamba ni pesa za baba zenu na mama zenu) kwenda huko lakini wakati huohuo mnataka yeye apoteze fedha yake kuwafuata watu wasiojua wajibu wao eti.... njoo kuhojiwa!!
 
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Ndo wanashtuka saa hii!
Kweli hii ni danganyika..
Watu makini na nchi zilizo makini kwenye matukio kama haya huwa wana yale masaa 48 ya kuweka kila kitu cha tukio katika hali inayoeleweka, sio bongo muda mrefu umepita wanapiga porojo, inatakiwa waangalie crime scenes za nchi zilizo mbele kwenye intelijensia,investigation na criminal issues.

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Tusidanganyane hapa polisi waitafute na kuipata silaha iliyotumika kufanya uhalifu, hili sio jukumu la victim. Kwasababu hata iwe vipi wana tabia ya kusema aliumizwa na kitu chenye ncha kali! Mbona wakiwakamata majambazi huwa wanaonyesha silaha? Kwahiyo Lissu na dereva wake walitoroka na bunduki iliyomshambulia? Hawataki kwenda Nairobi au Belgium kwakuwa itabidi waje na ripoti za madaktari inayoeleza majeraha ya Lissu yalisababishwa na nini, kisha risasi zilizotolewa mwilini mwa Lissu nazo zinaweza kutumika kuipata bunduki. Hapo ndipo pagumu kwa wahusika.
 
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Sijawahi ona au sikia mtu anahojiwa kienyeji namna hii.
Umapomuhoji mtu, physical presence, kuongea nae face to face na kumsikia hata anavyovuta pumzi ni muhimu zaidi. Kwenye video conference au njia nyingine hupati true coorperation.
Acha ujinga wako, kuvuta pumzi? Ujinga gani Unaongea? Sasa Wameshindwaje kwenda kumhoji ili wamuone akivuta pumzi?? Ujinga mtupu

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Baadhi ya wanasheria wameshangazwa na Jeshi la Polisi kushindwa kumhoji mbunge wa Singida Mashariki (Chadema), Tundu Lissu na dereva wake.

Wamesema sheria na utaratibu wa jeshi hilo unaliwezesha kuendelea na uchunguzi hata kama mbunge huyo yuko nje ya nchi.

Wakizungumza na Mwananchi leo Jumatatu Februari 11, 2019 baadhi ya wanasheria wametaja sheria zinazowezesha Jeshi la Polisi kumhoji mtuhumiwa au mtu yeyote wa tukio la jinai akiwa popote duniani.

Ijumaa iliyopita Februari 8, 2019 Waziri wa Mambo ya Ndani, Kangi Lugola alilieleza Bunge kuwa kesi ya kushambuliwa kwa risasi Lissu imeshindwa kuendelea kutokana na mbunge huyo pamoja na dereva wake kushindwa kutoa ushirikiano kwa Jeshi la Polisi kwani wao ndio mashuhuda muhimu wa tukio hilo.

Lugola alisema hayo alipokuwa akijibu hoja za wabunge waliokuwa wakichangia taarifa ya kamati ya Bunge ya Mambo ya Nje, Ulinzi na Usalama.

Lugola alisema siku ya tukio hilo Septemba 7, 2017 ndani ya gari, Lissu alikuwa na dereva wake ambao ni mashuhuda muhimu katika kesi hiyo.
Lissu alishambuliwa kwa risasi zaidi ya 30 mchana wa Septemba 7, 2017 katika makazi yake Area D jijini Dodoma akitoka kuhudhuria vikao bungeni ambapo kwa sasa ametoka hospitali na anaendelea na ziara barani Ulaya na Marekani.

Lissu amekuwa akihoji sababu ya Jeshi la Polisi kutomhoji tangu alipokuwa Nairobi, Kenya, huku pia akishangazwa na hatua hiyo, akisema kama angefariki dunia polisi wangefanya nini.

Mwanasheria wa kituo cha Sheria na Haki za Binadamu, Paul Mikongoti ameitaja Sheria ya Kusaidiana kwenye mambo ya jinai (Mutual assistance in criminal matters) akisema ndiyo inayoliongoza Jeshi la Polisi kwenda kuhoji wahalifu au waathirika wa matukio ya jinai wakiwa nje ya nchi.

“Sheria zipo zinazoliwezesha Jeshi la Polisi kumhoji Lissu. Hata wao Polisi wenyewe wanaweza kwenda kwa kushirikiana na majeshi ya Polisi kama ya Kenya au Ubeligiji au mtandao wa Polisi wa kimataifa (Interpol),” amesema Mikongoti.

Amesema Serikali inaweza kutumia ofisi za ubalozi kumhoji Lissu na dereva wake tangu alipokuwa nchini Kenya na Ubeligiji.

“Tuna ubalozi Kenya, tuna ubalozi Ubeligiji wangeweza kutuma maofisa wao kwenda kumhoji. Sijui kwa nini hawajamhoji, wao wenyewe wanajua, lakini kuna sheria inayoitwa Mutual assistance in criminal matters, inayotoa mwongozo wa kwenda kuhoji watu kama hao,” amesema.

Mmoja wa mawakili ambaye hakutaka jina lake kuwekwa wazi amesema Jeshi la Polisi halina sababu ya msingi la kushindwa kumhoji Lissu popote alipo duniani.

“Issue (suala) si sheria, Jeshi la Polisi linapotakiwa kumhoji mtu, kama nje ya nchi na hasa alipokuwa Kenya alipopata fahamu wangekwemda kumhoji. Kwa hiyo wanaweza kumhoji mahali popote hakuna kitu chochote kinachozuia kwenda kumhoji,” alisema wakili huyo.

“Hata kama mtu ni shahidi muhimu na yuko nje ya nchi na imekuwa ngumu kumleta, Jeshi la Polisi linakwenda kumhoji. Sioni kama ni defence kwamba hajahojiwa,” amesema.

Amesema Jeshi la Polisi katika upelelezi linaweza kwenda popote, hata kama ni Marekani.

“Ni ngumu kutetea kwamba Jeshi la Polisi limeshindwa kuendelea na upelelezi kwa sababu halikwenda kumhoji, haiingii akilini,” alisisitiza wakili huyo.

Wakili mwingine kwa sharti la kutotajwa jina amesema pia ameitaja sheria hiyo ya kusaidiana katika masuala ya jinai.

“Kifungu cha 14(1)(b)(ii) kinaeleza bayana, unapokuwa Tanzania kuna uchunguzi wa jinai unafanyika, halafu kuna mtu mwenye ushahidi muhimu lakini hayupo Tanzania, Mwanasheria mkuu akiona ushahidi muhimu anachukua mamlaka ya kuwasiliana na nchi nyingine ili wachukue ushahidi kule aliko mtu,” amesema wakili huyo.

“Iwe Kenya iwe Ubelgiji, yaani kwa hali ya kawaida, mgonjwa alazwe Uingereza halafu muache kuchunguza ugaidi?” Alihoji.

Ametaja pia mabadiliko ya sheria ya ushahidi ya 2017 yalifanyika ili kuendana na kasi ya teknolojia akisema mtuhumiwa au mwathirika anaweza kuhojiwa popote alipo duniani kwa njia za mawasiliano ya elektroniki.

“Mabadiliko hayo yaliyotanguliwa na mahakama za juu nchini, Polisi wanaweza kuhoji mtu akiwa nje ya nchi. Wewe ni askari wa upelelezi unaweza kuyarekodi maelezo yenu kwa njia ya video, si unamwona kule kule anatoa ushahidi? Kwa nini ishindikane kumhoji mtu aliye Nairobi au Ubeligiji?” Amehoji.

Amesema njia ya tatu ya kutuma watu alipo mwathirika wa tukio ili kumhoji akisema pia inawezekana.

“Haiwezekani maisha yakasimama 2019 eti kwa sababu mtu hayupo nchini,” amesisitiza.
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Sijawahi ona au sikia mtu anahojiwa kienyeji namna hii.
Umapomuhoji mtu, physical presence, kuongea nae face to face na kumsikia hata anavyovuta pumzi ni muhimu zaidi. Kwenye video conference au njia nyingine hupati true coorperation.
Wew jinga hujui sheria kaa kimya.
 
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Harafu bila aibu anaenda anapiga magoti kupokea sakramenti kichefu chefu mkubwa ,I hate the guy
hata mimi huwa nashangaa jamani ....hivi ina maana makanisa hayafahamu ushetani wa huyu jamani
 

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