Thika Highway ($360mln) vs Kibaha Highway ($65 mln)

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dong yi said:
endelea kupiga mapambio na "hela zenu za ndani" wkt ni mikopo mitupu..........


danganyeni wakenya wasioijua tabia yenu.............
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Sasa wewe unajua nini,kama hujui hata ni miradi gani inaendelea na ujenzi???si bora hata hao wakenya!!!!
 
dong yi said:
kimara-kibaha si imezinduliwa majuzi?......


ndugu, sema jiwe la msingi limewekwa usiseme imeanza!.........
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Hiv we we hujawai pita hii barabara naona.kuweka jiwe haimanishi haikuanza ilikuwa muda ishaanza na mjenzi no Estim company ..na iko at 5.8%
 
Dhuks said:
I am sure hata ukishidwa na mengine unajua kuhesabuView attachment 973284View attachment 973285
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Hivi hawa mainjinia wa wetu wamekula kinyesi hadi wanashindwa kujenga barabara iliyo NYOKA ona ilivyo pindapinda bila sababu za msingi ningekuwa raisi wa nchi hao injinia ni kuwatupa jela tu sijui wametumwa kufanya upuuzi hivi hapo kulikuwa na kizuizi gani hadi huyo aliye jenga hiyo barabara ashindwe kuinyoosha vizuri,NAOMBENI KUJUZWA KWA ANAWE JUA SABABU MAANA HATA HAPA TZ NJIA ZINAJENGA ZIMEPINDA PINDA KAMA NYOKA WAY?????
 
Geza Ulole said:
It's time again to look at the value for taxpayers' money in these two projects. Though three Chinese contractors i.e. Synohydro, Wu Yi n Shengli Engineering built Thika's 40 km Highway that claimed to be superhighway by Kenyans, Kibaha's 19 km Highway is to be built by native Tanzanians.
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Let alone cost comparison. They are all ideas of the past. Modern town and city transport systems are now never rooted to widening roads like Thika road or Kibaha whatever. don't make comfortable driving, make comfortable transport. Best of the modern plan is having reliable public transport. Think of replicating BRT, the rest are just rubbish!
 
Patriot said:
Let alone cost comparison. They are all ideas of the past. Modern town and city transport systems are now never rooted to widening roads like Thika road or Kibaha whetever. don't make comfortable driving, make comfortable transport. Best of the modern plan is having reliable public transport. Think of replicating BRT, thr rest are just rubbish!
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Not true think of cargo transport even after SGR cargo transport via trucks will remain!
 
Geza Ulole said:
Not true think of cargo transport even after SGR cargo transport via trucks will remain!
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Boss, no country in this world would think of road cargo transport. Huge cargo haulage is always the reason for train transport. SGR is perfect! Note that in Kenya or TZ Cargo is not, not a reason for having Thika road or Kibaha project, respectively. Roads are for lightweight vehicles. Do you know Euro tunnel? Included are railway for cargo and passengers and road for light weight vehicles. if you do the opposite, call it a sort of useless glorification.
 
Patriot said:
Boss, no country in this world would think of road cargo transport. Huge cargo haulage is always the reason for train transport. SGR is perfect! Note that in Kenya or TZ Cargo is not, not a reason for having Thika road or Kibaha project, respectively. Roads are for lightweight vehicles. Do you know Euro tunnel? Included are railway for cargo and passengers and road for light weight vehicles. if you do the opposite, call it a sort of useless glorification.
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Still significant precent will go through highways!
 
Geza Ulole said:
Still significant precent will go through highways!
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What is that significant? I like going for really numbers.

Dar is going over 5 million population, where buying a car is no longer a richman's option. like the developed, cars are becoming household tools. Will you accommodate all these roadspace requirements by widening roads? Let us be serious!
 
Geza Ulole said:
Sipendi kuzozana na Wapumbavu wa Wikipedia!


Thika superhighway completion set for June
Spanning 42km the Thika superhighway Project will have a 39km footpath and cyclists’ lane/FILE

NAIROBI, Kenya, Apr 10 – The completion of the Thika superhighway has been pushed to June.

Several hitches have held back the project, missing both the December 2011 and March 2012 deadlines.

Consulting Engineering firm APEC’s Managing Director Johnson Matu said besides land acquisition issues, heavy rains in the latter part of last year caused unexpected delays.
“We are having an issue with the removal and relocation of service lines, water pipes, power and some have not be relocated, so the contractor was unable to complete the works,” he said.
The relocation process and land acquisition has cost an estimated Sh5 billion, while supervision costs now stand at Sh1 billion.
So far, total costs for road works on the superhighway have reached Sh27 billion with each of the three lots of the project over 90 percent completed.
Spanning 42 kilometres (km) the Thika superhighway Project will have a 39km footpath and cyclists’ lane.

Lot 1, which is being undertaken by Chinese contractor China Wu Yi Company Limited stretches from Uhuru Highway ending at Muthaiga roundabout.
“The scope of that work includes improvement of Forest Road, Kariokor Road and Murang’a and the connection of the Globe flyover to Tom Mboya,” Matu explained.
Lot 2, under the supervision of Synohydro, is between Muthaiga roundabout and Kenyatta University, about a 14 km distance that is 93 and 94 percent complete, needing basic road furniture, lighting and signage.
Sheng Li engineering, the contractor overseeing completion of Lot 3 the last portion of the road to Thika, has already began construction of foot bridges.
“The bridges at least in our lot will be in the range of Sh20 million each. We are constructing five and the first is almost complete,” Sheng Li Engineer Zeng Xlanmin explained.

In all, there will be approximately 17 footbridges servicing pedestrians from Nairobi to Thika town.

A toll station and weigh bridge are being constructed along the highway in Lot 3 (in Ruiru), which once complete will be operationalised by Parliament.

Although fees are yet to be determined, traditional toll stations charge vehicles by type and in the case of heavy load trucks, the fee is determined by the number of axles, wheels and height of the truck.
The eight-lane highway that has re-written Kenya’s highway rulebook is expected to accommodate 300,000 cars daily.
Even though the temporary speed limit has been set between 30 and 50 kilometres as construction is on-going, Senior Superintendent of Police Leonard Katana said safety will be crucial when the speed limit is increased.

“It’s a good road so let’s not change it into a killer road. Officers will monitor drivers. The speed limit will remain. However in future we will propose to be a bit higher, but we must drive safely,” he said.

Furthermore, Information Permanent Secretary Bitange Ndemo stressed the need for motorist to respect the traffic laws.

“I have driven on Thika road only to see matatus calling for passengers at the centre of the highway; that just means they actually don’t know what a highway is,” he said.

Ndemo said the concept of a highway needs to be properly communicated to Kenyan motorists, requiring Ministry of Transport and relevant government agencies to formulate an aggressive education campaign.

“The Ministry of Transport should announce that it has cancelled all drivers’ licenses until everyone goes for another test on how to use the highway. Otherwise Thika Road will not help,” he asserted.

So far, two sections of the Sh2 million three-level Pangani interchange are operational, servicing Forest Road, Thika Road, Murang’a Road and Ring Road Ngara, as well as the recently opened Muthaiga underpass.

NAIROBI, Kenya, Apr 10 – The completion of the Thika superhighway has been pushed to June.

Several hitches have held back the project, missing both the December 2011 and March 2012 deadlines.

Consulting Engineering firm APEC’s Managing Director Johnson Matu said besides land acquisition issues, heavy rains in the latter part of last year caused unexpected delays.

“We are having an issue with the removal and relocation of service lines, water pipes, power and some have not be relocated, so the contractor was unable to complete the works,” he said.

The relocation process and land acquisition has cost an estimated Sh5 billion, while supervision costs now stand at Sh1 billion.

So far, total costs for road works on the superhighway have reached Sh27 billion with each of the three lots of the project over 90 percent completed.

Spanning 42 kilometres (km) the Thika superhighway Project will have a 39km footpath and cyclists’ lane.

Lot 1, which is being undertaken by Chinese contractor China Wu Yi Company Limited stretches from Uhuru Highway ending at Muthaiga roundabout.

“The scope of that work includes improvement of Forest Road, Kariokor Road and Murang’a and the connection of the Globe flyover to Tom Mboya,” Matu explained.

Lot 2, under the supervision of Synohydro, is between Muthaiga roundabout and Kenyatta University, about a 14 km distance that is 93 and 94 percent complete, needing basic road furniture, lighting and signage.

Sheng Li engineering, the contractor overseeing completion of Lot 3 the last portion of the road to Thika, has already began construction of foot bridges.

“The bridges at least in our lot will be in the range of Sh20 million each. We are constructing five and the first is almost complete,” Sheng Li Engineer Zeng Xlanmin explained.

In all, there will be approximately 17 footbridges servicing pedestrians from Nairobi to Thika town.

A toll station and weigh bridge are being constructed along the highway in Lot 3 (in Ruiru), which once complete will be operationalised by Parliament.

Although fees are yet to be determined, traditional toll stations charge vehicles by type and in the case of heavy load trucks, the fee is determined by the number of axles, wheels and height of the truck.

The eight-lane highway that has re-written Kenya’s highway rulebook is expected to accommodate 300,000 cars daily.

Even though the temporary speed limit has been set between 30 and 50 kilometres as construction is on-going, Senior Superintendent of Police Leonard Katana said safety will be crucial when the speed limit is increased.

“It’s a good road so let’s not change it into a killer road. Officers will monitor drivers.

The speed limit will remain. However in future we will propose to be a bit higher, but we must drive safely,” he said.

Furthermore, Information Permanent Secretary Bitange Ndemo stressed the need for motorist to respect the traffic laws.

“I have driven on Thika road only to see matatus calling for passengers at the centre of the highway; that just means they actually don’t know what a highway is,” he said.

Ndemo said the concept of a highway needs to be properly communicated to Kenyan motorists, requiring Ministry of Transport and relevant government agencies to formulate an aggressive education campaign.

“The Ministry of Transport should announce that it has cancelled all drivers’ licenses until everyone goes for another test on how to use the highway. Otherwise Thika Road will not help,” he asserted.

So far, two sections of the Sh2 million three-level Pangani interchange are operational, servicing Forest Road, Thika Road, Murang’a Road and Ring Road Ngara, as well as the recently opened
Muthaiga underpass.

Thika superhighway completion set for June - Capital Business

MY TAKE

The funny thing that 39km footpath and cyclists’ lane was never built.
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It’s clear you have never been to Kenya or thika road cause everyone who has been knows there is a footpath and a cyclist lane for the whole strech


Look at the shoulders on the sides where people are walking

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