Tanzania na Africa tunajifunza nini kwa mapinduzi ya Guinea?

[August]

Guinea PM Surrenders to Coup Leaders
By Scott Stearns
Dakar
25 December 2008

Guinean Prime Minister Tidiane Souare (file photos)

Guinea's prime minister has surrendered to coup leaders, recognizing an army captain as the nation's new head of state. Mutinous soldiers took power this week following the death of long-time President Lansana Conte.

Prime Minister Ahmed Tidiane Souare surrendered to coup leaders at Guinea's main military base along with more than two dozen officials toppled in Tuesday's military take-over.

Addressing Army Captain Moussa Camara as the president of the newly-formed National Council for Democracy and Development, Souare said all members of the former government are at the military's disposal for the good of the nation. Souare said civilian leaders will offer any assistance requested by the army.

Camara had given former government officials until Thursday evening to turn themselves in or risk being caught-up in a nationwide sweep of those still loyal to the Conte government. The chiefs of police and customs as well as the former head of all Guinea's armed forces also surrendered Thursday. After Souare's resignation, Camara said the former officials were free to go.

Souare and other government officials tried to hang on to power following President Conte's death, appealing for popular support and international pressure to put down the military take-over.

But a reporter for VOA in Conakry says there was no resistance to the mutinous soldiers. They paraded Camara through the streets of the capital Wednesday evening, carrying him to the presidential palace and proclaiming him the nation's new leader.

The African Union has condemned the coup, warning of what it calls "stern measures" if the military does not allow a democratic transition of power. The United States is threatening to suspend $15 million worth of aid if coup leaders do not take steps to return to civilian rule.

Camara says his ruling council of six civilians and 26 soldiers will organize "free, credible, and transparent" elections in December 2010. He said soldiers have no wish to cling to power and he will not be a candidate in that election.

Speaking to reporters at the Alpha Yaya Diallo barracks, Camara called for an end to injustice, corruption, impunity, and tribalism in Guinea. He said the Conte government was responsible for economic collapse and had failed Guinea's ten million people. The world's largest producer of aluminum ore is one of the world's poorest nations.

Much of life in the capital returned to normal Thursday. Banks and petrol stations re-opened. Markets were busy. A curfew announced Wednesday was postponed until Friday because military leaders said they wanted "to allow Christians to celebrate a peaceful Christmas holiday."

President Conte will be buried Friday in ceremonies organized by Camara' new ruling council. An announcement on state radio said there will be a military ceremony in the morning and a public viewing in the main stadium in the afternoon before services at Conakry's Grand Mosque and a burial in the former president's home village outside the capital.

The nation's second leader had been ill for some time. He was thought to be in his 70's and was a heavy smoker who suffered from diabetes. Mr. Conte took power in a 1984 coup that followed the death of post-independence leader Ahmed Sekou Toure.

He first won election as president in 1993 in a vote protested by political opponents because some results were canceled. He survived a February 1996 army mutiny over pay in which at least 40 people were killed. The president was captured by mutineers who later freed him when he promised to raise salaries for troops.

President Conte was re-elected in 1998 after his main challenger was jailed for sedition. A referendum changing the constitution to remove term limits allowed President Conte to run again in 2003. Most opposition parties boycotted that ballot, and he was re-elected with more than 95 percent of the vote.

 

[Sahiba]

Guys Mr. Camara did the right thing and no one knows his intention but so far he handle the situation very well because guys most of this African Old fashion leaders they want to die in power and that is all they care power power power and the worst part is they don't make any changes to their countries so in a long run Mr.Camara present a hope so far again no one knows his intention and hope a positive change is coming soon.sometime you rather have Mr.Camara lead the country than Grandfather Mugabe and hope someone like him will take over na kule kwa babu Mugabe and send him somewhere in exile.

 

[Mlalahoi]

Ahh sie ni nchi ya amani na utulivu.Hayo yanawatokea wenzetu tu sio sisi.Tuna chama tawala imara,kimekuwa kikiwajali wananchi tangu kizaliwe 1977,tuna rais ambaye jitihada zake za kuleta maisha bora kwa kila mtanzania zinaonekana,na watumishi wa umma (including wanajeshi) wanapatiwa mishahara ya kutosha na hawadai malimbikizo yoyote.....wishful thinking,of course.Well,watawala wetu wako busy sana na kuifisadi nchi yetu wala hawajali yanayotokea kwingineko.Wanasahau kwamba wanyonge wakiungana wanaweza kuiondoa dola madarakani kwa njia yoyote ile

 

[August]

Guinea junta seeks to allay fears

Capt Camara says he wants to rid Guinea of corruption

Guinea's military coup leaders have invited foreign diplomats to a meeting to "reassure the international community" about their intentions.

The rebels said the talks would be held in the capital Conakry on Saturday.

There has been international condemnation of Tuesday's coup, but it was welcomed by some people in Guinea.

Capt Moussa Dadis Camara led the revolt just hours after the death of veteran strongman President Lansana Conte, who is due to be buried later on Friday.

Sick and tired of despotic rule under the former president and his hugely corrupt government, Guineans are pinning their hopes on the military, the BBC's West Africa correspondent Will Ross says.

On Thursday, Guinean Prime Minister Ahmed Tidiane Souare and some 30 other ministers submitted to the coup leaders.

Government leaders had previously insisted they were still in control.

'Free elections'

In a statement read on Guinea's national radio, the junta said the meeting with foreign envoys would be held at 1200 GMT.

The council has no ambitions to hold on to power

The rebels also said they would hold separate talks on Saturday with leaders of Guinea's political parties and civil society groups.

Capt Camara, a junior army officer, has declared himself Guinea's new president and head of the junta's new National Council for Democracy and Development (CNDD).

On Thursday, he said the new 32-member ruling council replacing the government and other institutions would hold "free, credible and transparent elections" in December 2010, when Mr Conte's presidential term would have ended.

"The council has no ambitions to hold on to power. The only reason is the need to safeguard territorial integrity. That is the only reason. There is no ulterior motive," he said.

Capt Camara also said he had no intention of standing in the elections and that he wanted to restore order to the country and rid it of corruption.

World reaction

The African Union, European Union and United States have condemned the coup.

HAVE YOUR SAY We need a change, change that will benefit all Guineans. We pray for a good leader
Amara, Nzerekore

The US embassy in Conakry called for an immediate return to civilian rule in Guinea, saying the junta's announcement that elections would not be held for two years was unacceptable.

France, which currently holds the EU presidency, also said a vote should be held soon.

"The presidency points out the importance of respecting time limits and within the first half of 2009 holding democratic and transparent elections," the office of French President Nicolas Sarkozy said in a statement.

Guinea's two main opposition groups also urged the junta to stage elections in a year's time.

Celebrations

International condemnation of the coup appears to be at odds with the opinion of the Guinean people, the BBC's Will Ross says.

Celebrations in Conarky

On Wednesday, thousands of people took to the streets and cheered the man many now refer to as President Camara, as the military paraded him through the capital.

President Conte, 74, died on Monday night and renegade soldiers moved to seize power in the hours afterwards, taking control of state radio and television.

His funeral is to take place in his home village.

According to Guinea's constitution, the speaker of its parliament, Aboubacar Sompare, should be in charge of the government until elections are held in 60 days.

 

[William J. Malecela]

Camara says his ruling council of six civilians and 26 soldiers will organize "free, credible, and transparent" elections in December 2010. He said soldiers have no wish to cling to power and he will not be a candidate in that election.

- I mean so far sijaona all the facts za the whole ishu, lakini I do not like this quote, miaka miwili kuandaa uchaguzi? Somebody please help me Why two years?

 

[Nzokanhyilu]

Another Yahya Jammeh in the making. Akionja utamu hatoki hapo.

 

[JokaKuu]

..lakini Raisi Kikwete si askari mstaafu.

..labda Guinea wangejifunza toka kwetu.

 

[Zakumi]

Another Yahya Jammeh in the making. Akionja utamu hatoki hapo.

Unanikumbusha usemi wa Chiluba: Power is Sweet.

 

[Zakumi]

Hakuna cha kujifunza kwani hii ni mara ya kwanza kutokea mapinduzi barani Africa?

Kama kuna cha kujifunza basi ni kuwa it's time to move on.

 

[Lole Gwakisa]

Kuna cha kujifunza pale Guinea?, sie tumepita huko siku nyiiingi sana.
Jamaa Conteh kufia kwenye kigoda cha Ikulu si suala ambalo waTanzania tunalielewa kirahisi.

 

[Kafara]

- I mean so far sijaona all the facts za the whole ishu, lakini I do not like this quote, miaka miwili kuandaa uchaguzi? Somebody please help me Why two years?

mwaka mmoja wa kujipongeza kwa "risk" aliyochukua, na wa pili kujitayarisha kuachia madaraka (kama kweli nia hiyo ipo).

 

[Kafara]

funzo ni kwamba japokuwa "coup d'etat" zimepitwa na wakati na zinapingwa duniani kote bado zinawezekana hususan pale serikali "inapowatelekeza" wananchi wake.

 

[MzalendoHalisi]

Huyu Kamara sii leo amesikika akijitetea kwa Wade ktk simu eti atakaa tu kwa miezi 8 ndo uchaguzi? Na istoshe eti hatagombea uraisi!! Sasa tuamini lipi? la 2 years au 8 months? Hawa jamaa mara nyingi hawaaminiki!
We wait and see!

 

[Mkandara]

FMES,
Mkuu wangu ina make sense sana tu. Hivi kweli unafikiria yakitokea mapinduzi Tanzania na jeshi likaruhusu uchaguzi baada ya miezi michache, hivi kweli CCM watashindwa uchaguzi huo!..
Kisha kama rais wetu anaweza kupatwa na kifo cha ghafla mrithi wake wa kiti cha Urais anaweza kuzua balaa kama la Guinea.
Kulingana na habari nilivyosikia mimi BBC, huyo Conte mwenyewe alichukua nchi kwa mapinduzi akawaahidi wananchi changes na yote mazuri ya maendeleo kwa watu wote lakini toka ameshika madaraka hakuna changes isipokuwa kuendeleza Utawala wa asili ya mwafrika -Mabavu..
Sasa napokwama ni kuelewa ni pixcha nzima ya Mapinduzi haya walilaumu Utawala ambao wamekuwa wakiutumikia miaka yote hadi kifo chake. Je, Tatizo ni sheria ya nchi yao ambayo kikatiba aliyetakiwa kurithi kiti cha urais ni Speaker wa Bunge!..Na huyu mzee hana washabiki kabisa kwani inasemekana ni sawa na Mh. Six...

 

[William J. Malecela]

Mkuu wangu ina make sense sana tu. Hivi kweli unafikiria yakitokea mapinduzi Tanzania na jeshi likaruhusu uchaguzi baada ya miezi michache, hivi kweli CCM watashindwa uchaguzi huo!..

- Mkuu Bob, kama this is the point basi CCM izuiwe kugombea maana hapa nia itakuwa kuinyima ushindi sasa kwa nini uiruhusu kugombea kama wananchi wanaitaka?, lakini ninaamini miezi sita tu inatosha kwa wenye nia njema na taifa,

- Nimesoma all the facts sasa, sawa ilikuwa ni muhimu sana in this case ya Guinea kwa Camara, kuingilia kati lakini hii ya kusubiri miaka miwili haina mshiko hata kidogo, miezi sita tu inatosha.

 

[Mkandara]

FMES,
Tatizo la Guinea ni sawa na CCM leo kuna mtandao ndani ya uongozi wa nchi ile kwa hiyo uchaguzi unalenga zaidi watu fulani na sio chama kwa ujumla. Wapo wazee asilia ambao hawatakiwi kushika madaraka na kulingana na habari hao wazee ndio kipenzi cha wananchi..
kwa hiyo hata hapa nyumbani huwezi kuzuia CCM kama chama kwa sababu karibu kila mtu ni mwanachama wa CCM iwe asili ama wa kuja...Na huwezi kuwaondoa CCM kwenye Uchaguzi nchi za Ulaya hazikakuacha na ndilo linalotendeka huko Guinea wameshaanza kupiga kelele kwa sababu (kulingana na fununu) yale madini ya kutengenezea Aluminium yanatakiwa sana na kuna hatari ya viongozi hawa kubatillisha Mkataba uliotangulia.

 

[William J. Malecela]

- Bob mimi ninavyowasoma hawa Guinea, ni kwamba hawa wanajeshi wana tatizo kubwa kwa sababu either wakae kwa muda mrefu au wawape hao hao waliowapindua sasa ili waishie kuwaua wao wenyewe wanajeshi kina Camara,

- Inaonekana wengi wa juu hawakufurahishwa sana na haya mapinduzi, halafu kuna tatizo sana junior officers wanapochukua nchi, maana senior hawatalala mpaka wajibu mapigo kama vile Liberia na Doe,

Anyways, binafsi siungi mkono mapinduzi kwa siku za sasa, maana tatizo lake ni kwamba huwezi ku-draw the line yataanzia na kuishia wapi, unless wazungu waingilie kati.

 

[Madela Wa- Madilu]

Ni rahisi sana kwa Tanzania kupinduliwa na Macaptaini kuliko Majenerali wanaokula Bure na kwenda chooni bure hapa Tanzania. Macaptain walitikisa kiberiti mwaka fulani wakaishiakukopeshwa magari wakaridhika. Lakini nijuavyo mimi kundi la makepteni ndo kundi la wanajeshi wengi walo irudi shule.

Kwamba kunaweza kutokea mapinduzi nchini Tanzania? Ndiyo kuna possibility hiyo. Lakini sioni Brigedia au Generali yeyote mwenye hamu ya kufanya hivyo.

Mapinduzi ni jambo zuri?Sina uhakika, nijualo ni moja kwamba ubadhirifu wa mali ya umma na Ufisadi ni kati ya mambo yawezayo kuzaa wazo la kupindua serikali.
Wengi wa Makepteni hali zao huwa mbaya pale tu watakiwapo kustaafu, kwani wao hustaafu wakiwa na miaka 50. Kwa tabia zao kwamba wengi wao wameoza kwa chini na hivyo huchelewa sana kuoa,mara nyingi hustaafu wakiwa waya huku watoto wao wakiwa bado chekechea.

 

[Mbunge]

JIPYA ni kuwa Uncle Captain Camara katangaza kuwa sampuli ya kina EPA huko Guinea itakuwa chakula cha risasi kuanzia sasa. CCM na Mwenyekiti wake na ubavu kwa hili.

Vilevile Camara kaamua mikataba yote ya uchimbaji madini ya almasi, dhahabu, bauxite na uranium ipitiwe upya a itakayoandikwa iwe na faida kwa wa Guinea wa kawaida na sio watu wachache tu!

Naunga mkono mapinduzi ya Guinea kwa mikono na miguu miwili na ninaanza kujifunza Kifaransa nikachangie maendeleo ya nchi ambayo nadhani sasa imeondoa gia ya rivasi na imeshaweka gia namba moja! Mbele kwa mbele.... Bonjour Guinea, j'arrive bientoit!