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Watu wengi wanaopenda kudadisi na kutafakari undani na ukweli wa mambo . Mara nyingi hugundua kwamba mfumo wetu wa maisha kiujumla una maswali mengi sana abayo hayana majibu kamili.
Tafakari ni mambo mangapi ambayo ulifundishwa shuleni lakini hukuwahi kuyatumia maishani mwako, na ni mambo mangapi hukuridhishwa na majibu yake ukiwa mtoto au hata ukiwa mtu mzima ni mengi , How many laws, principals, theories and formulas that you did not actually understand at all but actually agreed to them just to get along with the system or just to answer the exam. or how many things that do not make sense in real life till now.. a lot!!

Ni wazi kwamba mfumo wa sasa wa maisha kiujumla hauna tofauti kubwa sana dunia nzima. UTANDAWAZI
Kwa mfano mfumo wa mfanya kazi aliesoma wa Marekani ,Europe,Asia nk hauna tofauti sana na huku kwetu Africa na kwengineko ,,Tukiweka pembeni mambo ya mshahara na customs nyingine...
Yani namaanisha msomi mwisho wa siku lazma uspecialize kwenye kwenye kitu ambacho utakifanyia kazi maishani mwamko ,mfano utakua either ,Daktari, Mwanasheria, Wakili, Rubani, Mwandishi wa habari, Engineer, Karani nk.... Na kazi hizi ndio maisha yako. Nikimaanisha kwa asilimia kubwa sana katika kazi uliyo somea . ndipo utakapo patia mkate wako wa kila siku, ili uweze kuendesha maisha yako na watu wa karibu yako.
Na hii ndio point kubwa ya elimu,,kukufundisha kusurvive ndani ya system kiujumla.kwa mawazo yangu.
Na mara nyingi hivi vitu tunavyo visomea huchukua muda mrefu sana katika maisha yetu
na ni vigumu sana kujifunza vyote maana vinachukua muda na uwezo. Hata kama una IQ gani ..ndo system ilivyo.
Hivyo kwakua kila mtu yupo busy kufanikisha malengo yake kielimu na kimaisha ,kuna vitu vingi tunaviacha nyuma bila kuwa na ujuzi navyo kamili kwasababu havitusaidii katika kusurvive katika system.... Ila tatizo ndo lipo hapo katika vitu tunavyoona havitusaidii katika maisha.
all in all being educated with a diploma ,bachelor,or masters is not all in life.
it just means that you master being a Good worker/slave to the system.

Okay tuachane na haya mambo maana there's a lot to talk about in the subject matter

No one is smarter we are just simply sharing information and ideas ,,because we often judge according to how we where taught .

JARIBU KUA OPEN MINDED NA UTAFAKARI KWA KUTUMIA UTASHI ULIOPEWA.

Tuongelee Dunia
Nadhani kila mtu hapa alifundishwa kuhusu umbo la DUNIA
according to wikipedia (Muundo wa dunia
unafanana na tufe kubwa yenye rediasi ya 6370 km kwa wastani[1]. Tufe la dunia yetu imeundwa na mabara kwa tabaka mbalimbali. Sayansi ina njia kuzitofautisha kufuatana na tabia zao.) hivi ndivyo wote tumefundishwa swali muhimu ni kujua maana ya tufe ni nini ?

(picha na maelezo kutoka wikipedia)



Picha ya tufe

Rediasi au nusukipenyo (= r) cha tufe
Tufe ni umbo la gimba linalofanana na mpira au chungwa. Lakini wala mpira wala chungwa ni tufe kamili.



Mwaka huu 2016 tunashuhudia ssa hivi DUNIA ipo katika maendeleo na mafanikio makubwa ya technolojia na sayansi (dunia ya utandawazi)

According to NASA {nadhani wote mnatambua NASA ni nini !!!} safari ya kwanza ya mafanikio kwa binadamu kutua mwezini ilkua mwaka 1969 jully kinachonishangaza pamoja na mafanikio yote ambayo mwanadamu ameyapata mpka sasa hakuna picha halisi ya Dunia duara au tufe picha zote za dunia tufe au duara ni CGI (computer generated image) mara nyingi picha za aina hii huwa na muonekano kama picha halisi lakin sio halisi kwa sababu zinatengenezwa na photoshop au program nyingine za kutengeneza CGI nadhani watu wenye ujuzi wa media na graphics mnaelewa nnachojaribu kuelezea hapa.

Dunia duara (spherical earth) iligunduliwa na (The discovery that the Earth is round is most commonly ascribed to the ancient Greek philosopher Pythagoras, while the credit for proving it is usually given to Aristotle. It appears that most ancient Greek philosophers that followed him believed in a round Earth. Since the records from that time are not perfect, it is quite possible that someone before him was aware of the Earth's round shape.)

Kwa ufupi tunaona kwamba dunia duara ipo mda mrefu sana lakin mpaka leo hakuna picha halisi ya DUNIA yenyewe unaweza kugoogle tafta '' picture of earth from space'' AMBAYO SIO CGI

PICHA YA DUNIA KUTOKA MWEZINI ANGALIA TOFAUTI ZILIZOPO




Na pia kumbuka kwamba Dunia ina mizunguko miwili according to science na hizo spidi ni kali sana. Kwa mfano mzunguko wa usiku na mchana ni kilometer 1000 kwa lisaa hii ni spidi kubwa sana. Mara nyingi tulipokua wadogo tulkua tukiuliza inawezekanaje dunua inazunguka kwa spidi kubwa sana lakin hatuoni chochote, WAALIMU walitwambia ni GRAVITY au gravitation force ndo inavishikilia vitu vyote visidondoke kutoka duniani.... mara nyingi katika topic hii mwanafunzi anakua anajaribu kutafakari haya yote yanawezekanaje lakin jibu kamili hua halipatikani.


Nadhani mpaka ssa hvi utakua atleast umepata mwelekeo kidogo.. hili swala lipo deep sana na lipo connected mambo mengine mengi ulimwenguni.

Ukweli mwizito ni kwamba dunia ni tambarare na haina mzunguko wowote yani imetulia (fixed) na wanaojulikana kama (ELITES =a select part of a group that is superior to the rest in terms of ability or qualities.) hawa ni watu wanaoiongoza dunia kiutawala kiuchumi kidini na mambo mengine mengi kupitia mitandao yao ilioenea dunia nzima ..hili swala la elites pia linaweza kuzungumziwa separate kwasababu nalo lilpo deep na nivizuri kutambua njinsi media pia zinavotumiwa na viongozi katika uongozi.. kabisa kama nlivosema mwanzo mambo mengi yana husiana (everything is connected) ivi ulishawahi kujiuliza kwanini ramani ya dunia ambayo ipo kwenye bendera ya umoja wa mataifa ipo tofauti kabisa.

Bendera ya umoja wa mataifa

Jiulize kwanini ramani ambayo inatumiwa na umoja wa mataifa ni tofauti kabisa na ramani za kawaida? na ijulikane kwamba alama zote za bendera duniani au michoro yoyote kwene bendera inamaana flani au inaashiria kituflamni katika jamii au katika historia kiujumla.

Hii inamaanisha kwamba umoja wa mataifa wanajua kitu kuhusu dunia tambarare. Lakini kwanini wanatuficha?



Okay tuzungumie kuhusu dunia kua tambarare kwa undani kabisa na ushaidi
ngoja nielezee kwanza muundo wa dunia kutokana na reerch ya flatearth society.

Hoja ni;
Dunia ni tambarare na haizunguki yenyewe wala haizunguki jua bali jua na vitu vyote angani vinaizunguka dunia na milango yetu yote ya fahamu inatuambia hivyo maana jua tunaliona kila siku linavyotuzunguka kwasabu tunaliuona mizunguko yake na pia mwezi na nyota vyote vinatuzunguka hivi ndivyo fahamu zetu zitatuambia na ndo ukweli in short THE EARTH IS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. Na hili jambo lilikua linajulikana miaka 500 iliopita na pia DINI zote za kale na sasa walizungumzia kuhusu dunia kua katikati ya kila kitu. mfano mzuri ni katika BIBLIA katika kitabu cha mwanzo mungu alielezea vuzuri tu umbo la dunia yetu

Lakini chakushangaza binadamu tunakataa jinsi fahamu zetu tano zinavyotutuma achilia mbali milango yetu ya fahamu pia katika dini hili swala limezungumziwa lakin bado watu waaamini picha za NASA kwamba wameenda mwezini embu jaribu kukaanje skumoja usiku alafu angaliua mwezi vizuri kwa macho yako na unambie kama kuna mtu kaenda kwene mwezi
  • Dunia ni tambarare na maji yote ya bahari yameshikiliwa na kuta za barafu zilizozunguka dunia nzima
kama kuna mtu yoyote duniani anae weza kutonesha na kuthibitisha kua dunia ni duara maana yake dunia sio duara na HII infahamika toka zamani
na itambulike vita kati ya dini na wanasayansi na wanafilosofia wa zamani
DINI ZA DUNIA ZILINAJUA DUNIA NI TAMBARARE



ACCORDING TO ERIC DUBAY AND OTHER FREE THINKERS


The Earth has a radius of approximately 3965 miles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, that calculates to an average curvature of 7.98 inches per mile or approximately 8 inches per mile.
hii inamaana kua dunia inaanza kupinda au ku curve kwa nchi 8 kwa mile moja hii inamaanisha kwamba kwamfano kuna point mbili A na B mtu wa A hatoweza kumuona mtu wa B alie mile kumi au hata ishirini je hii ni kweli?
angalia kwa makini uelewe

Hii ilijulikana sio kweli kwasababu ya uwepo wa camera na vifaa vyenye nguvu kwa watu tofauti na zamani hizi zifuatazo ni picha zinazoonesha umbali mkubwa ulioweza kuonekana katika camera na vifaa vingine na zote hizi hazioneshi curveture yoyote angalia

Nimejaribu kutoa mwanga tu kwa wataopenda kujua ukweli na kufatilia kuhusu flat earth nenda utapata kila kitu IFERS

Ukitaka kuelewa hili swala pamoja na mambo mengine usiyoyajua na agenda za dunia fatilia kuhusu
JARIBU KUFATILIA UKWELI SSA HVI KUNA MAKUNDI MENGI YA WATU WANAAMKA NA KUGUNDUA HAYA MAMBO KIMSINGI HUU NDIO UKWELI WA MSINGI WA KWANZA .. SABABU ZA HAWA ELITES NA INTERNATINALISTS KUFICHA HUU UKWELI PIA ZIPO ,,,,,,, CATCHUP TO REALITY FATILIA KUHUSU DUMBING DOWN OF THE SOCIETY NA THE USE OF MEDIA ON MASS CONTROL
HAYA YOTE NI KUTUFUNGA TUSIJUE UKWELI?/
KUMBUKA THOSE WHO CLAIM TO HAVE THE TRUTH ARE EASILY DECEIVED
  1. PIA FATILIA KUHUSU WHY NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO GO TO ANTARTICA
  2. FLATEARTH YOU TUBE INA VIDEO NYINGI KUHUSU HILI SWALA
  3. THE BEST NARRATOR IS ERIC DUBAY ACCORDING TO ME
  4. PIA FATILIA KUHUSU CHEMTRAILS AND FOOD POISONING
  5. KIKUBWA FATILIA KUHUSU UWEZO WA BINADAMU KIROHO/NAFSI PIA KUHUSU PINEAL GLAND NA THIRD EYE HII HAINA MAUSIANO NA DINI ZETU INFACT KILA MTU ANATEZI KATIKATI YA UBONGO INAITWA PINEAL HII NDIO HUMFANYA MWANADAMU KUA NA UWEZO WA KIROHO NA NAFSI ...HAYA MAMBO YAPO LAKIN HATUFUNDISHWI ..
  6. PIA FATILIA KUHUSU NEW WORLD ODER KIUNDANI
  7. PIA JARIBU KUFATILIA ANCIENT HISTORY AND KNOWLEDGE ( ANCIENT CIVILAIZATION)
  8. FATILIA ATLANTIAN CONSPIRACY

  9. NASA IS A HOAX
  10. GLOBAL WORMING AND CLIMATE CHANGE IS A HOAX
  11. PIA FATILIA GEORGIA GUIDE STONES
  12. KIUFUPI BINADAMU TUNAUWEZO MKUBWA SANA LAKINI HATUJITAMBUI
  13. MANY OF THE THINGS WE KNW ARE JUST ALLEGORIES AND PLANE FACE LIES
  14. HII HAIWEZEKANI.......

WE ALL LIVE FOR A PURPOSE AND THE EARTH IS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE
BIG BANG NA EVOLUTION THEORIES NI UMBEA NA PROPAGANDA


COPY and paste from.....
THIS POST WAS PUBLISHED BY ERIC DUBAY @ATLANIAN CONSIRACY BOOK
For daring to spread this most important and overlooked truth, I have received death threats, lost friends and family members, had my forum shut down, and been kicked off Facebook thrice and counting. As damning and easily provable as is this fact of Jewish Freemason control, there is one other incredible fact which has also been held from humanity for 500 years now. This fact is even more damning and more easily provable, and is also a direct result of the Jewish Freemason control over the minds of the masses worldwide. It is the most marginalized, ridiculed, censored and hidden fact in history. If this fact was made known to the world at large, just this one fact, has the power to completely transform the world and everyone in it for the better, holistically, in a myriad of ways. Our rulers are well aware of this, and that is exactly why this truth has been held from us so expertly for so long. It is about the truth of who we are, where we come from, the actual position and significance of humans, Earth, the Sun, Moon, and stars.

The fact is: The Earth is flat and motionless. That is all. And that is the revelation that will finally break the matrix. You have been taught from the earliest ages that you live on a spinning ball. That NASA has sent men to the Moon, that satellites are hovering in perpetual orbit overhead, that an International Space Station contains astronauts free-floating above us, that the Earth is a ball that tilts, wobbles, spins on its axis and revolves around the Sun, and that all these and you are the result of a Big Bang cosmogenic explosion 14 billion years ago which created everything out of nothing. Yet nothing could be farther from the truth.



The truth is simple and easily proven. You can see for yourself the horizon is always flat and you can measure using sextants, theodolites, and lasers to prove the Earth and its massive oceans have absolutely no curvature whatsoever. You can feel for yourself that the Earth beneath you is motionless and you can measure as Michelson, Morley, Gale, Sagnac, Airy and other scientists have to prove that the Earth is completely motionless. That's right. It has been long proven by several scientific experiments, even in the elitist "peer-reviewed journals" you critics constantly harp on about, that the Earth is a stationary plane. The reason you haven't heard about it before is because the media is controlled by the same people who created this deception. The only time you have ever heard a "Flat Earther" mentioned in the media, it was in jest or ridicule. The only thing you have ever heard about "Flat Earth" is that its adherents are ignorant idiots. Sorry to burst your space bubble, but if you still think you're living on a spinning ball in 2016, you my friend, are the ignorant one.



Millions of people worldwide are waking up to this incredible re-discovery and this "Flat Earth movement" has the potential to bring about positive change on a unprecedented level. Like a balloon held underwater for 500 years, the momentum of truth rising to the surface is causing and will continue to cause huge ripples in the control system. As the spinning ball-Earth is finally being exposed worldwide for the 500 year deception it was, Earth's entire population is suddenly being faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational cosmological myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our flat Earth gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years! Essentially, once the flat Earth truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally ALL of the other conspiracies, and exposes them.

As a result of deeply understanding this and wanting to bring about a better world, it has become my life mission to spread the flat Earth truth to everyone. I have written two books on the subject, "The Flat Earth Conspiracy" and "200 Proofs the Earth is Not a Spinning Ball." I have re-started the International Flat Earth Research Society and maintain a website with hundreds of articles on the subject. I have done flat Earth radio interviews, made flat Earth FAQs, flat Earth shirts, written flat Earth rap songs, audio/video books, documentaries, and created every other kind of media I can think of to try and promote this message.

Now in just a few short years, thanks to the efforts of the rapidly growing flat Earth community, this has gone from a completely unknown, undiscussed topic to one of the highest ranked google search terms on the internet with tens of millions of hits monthly. If you still haven't done your due diligence in researching to know for yourself 100% that you are living on a flat, stationary plane, please look into the links provided. And for those of you who do know, I implore you to help my mission Operation: Spread Flat Earth Truth.

Simply knowing the truth yourself will not and cannot save the world. The only way to save the world is for the whole world to know the truth. As a means to that end, the most important type of activism anyone can be doing right now is spreading these important truths on a mass scale. There are innumerable creative ways to help achieve this; the following are several effective methods myself or friends have had success with:

1. Conversation: One of the best ways to engage people with the flat reality is through conversation. Asking leading questions, dropping hints, or just telling people various proofs and evidences is a great way to wake people up. This only works, however, if you are very knowledgeable about the subject yourself and able to answer every possible question without hesitation like the liars at NASA do.

2. Viewing Parties: Another good way to engage people is by getting them to agree to sit down and watch an informative documentary on the subject such as my videos "The World's Biggest Secret," or "The Masonic Matrix Manipulators" After watching you can then do your best to field any questions people may have.

3. Book Gifting: A great indirect way of engaging people is by buying and giving them copies of "The Flat Earth Conspiracy" and "200 Proofs the Earth is Not a Spinning Ball" or other good books on the subject. If you own flat Earth books yourself, be sure to let friends and family borrow them as well.

4. School Projects: If you are currently in school or university, a great way to expose this information is by writing essays or doing projects which tackle various aspects of ball-Earth pseudo-science or expose true flat Earth findings.

5. Social Media: I have had great success using social media to spread flat Earth truth. Simply create accounts with all the big social media sites like Facebook, Google+, Twitter, LinkedIn, Instagram, Reddit, StumbleUpon etc., join relevant groups and pages, follow people interested in related subjects, and post the best flat Earth material you can find to as many places as you can, as often as you can. Don't bother arguing with the trolls and closed-minds that will inevitably hound you, but rather focus on dissemination, spreading the message far and wide. If people ask genuine questions, be sure to answer, but anyone merely looking to ridicule should be left alone to talk with themselves.

6. Use YouTube and Other Video Sharing Sites: With 13 million hits and growing, my YouTube channel has done an excellent job spreading this message. We need more people to start flat Earth YouTube and other video sharing site channels, however, either creating original content or just re-uploading other good content. I personally have given everyone permission to use any/all of my content to help spread the word. Once you upload a new video to YouTube, then go to all your social media accounts and post each new video to all the relevant pages, groups and timelines you can.

7. Translations: For multi-lingual flat Earthers, one of the best things you can do is help translate good flat Earth material into your native tongue. My book "200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball" has now been translated into 12 different languages and counting, reaching people who would otherwise never have a chance of understanding this material, the majority of which currently exists only in English.

8. Graffiti/Artwork: Another great method of spreading the word is through artwork or graffiti. Writing important search terms or keywords and phrases on paper money is also very effective. On the borders of your dollar bills, simply write AtlanteanConspiracy.com, IFERS.123.st, the Earth is Flat!, Google Flat Earth, Google Eric Dubay, or other such messages.

9. Pamphleteering/stickers: Creating small brochures or stickers with flat Earth information on them and handing them out in public spaces is an excellent way to spread the word. Compile several photo proofs or text proofs and put them in an easily printable and readable format then hand out as many as you can.

10: Radio/TV Show Call ins: Many different TV and radio shows give their viewers/listeners the opportunity to call in and talk with the host about certain subjects. A great way to spread the word is either by calling into these shows and engaging them on the subject on the spot, or contacting their producers before-hand and seeing if you could actually be interviewed.

There are an infinite number of creative ways we can spread this most important message, but the key is numbers and consistency. We need to hit a critical-mass tipping-point of awakened individuals dedicated to helping unplug everyone else from the spinning ball-Earth matrix. If you have figured out the truth of our flat Earth and realize the amazing positive implications of this being exposed worldwide, please join me on my mission to help spread flat Earth truth to the entire flat world
by Cannalive on Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:25 pm

I was told about this in jest. But once I got curious, I openly learned more and became awake. If you truly want to wake up and find the edges of your cage, you eventually cannot get over the hurdle of flat earth. Even when meeting a new friend and getting high together we both subconsciously brought up flat earth during our discussion, not really taking it seriously...until I said something that blew his mind. A simple truth about time zones if the sun was so far away. That was when I realized we have so much ability to slip into someone's conscious thought by redirecting away from the subject itself head on and slip through one of the many backdoors of logical.
 

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Leo nikichukua private jet from Dar es salaam nikahead eastwards assuming that sihitaji refuelling lazima nitarudi Dar es salaam, bila ya kubadili direction.

Unaweza kutetea point kwa kuuzingatia huu mfano wangu?
 
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Leo nikichukua private jet from Dar es salaam nikahead eastwards assuming that sihitaji refuelling lazima nitarudi Dar es salaam, bila ya kubadili direction.

Unaweza kutetea point kwa kuuzingatia huu mfano wangu?
Mfano wako ndio mifano tuliyoaminishwa, coz hakuna aliyewahi kuthibitisha hilo la ukieleekea upande mmoja mnyoofu utatokea palepale, na wanapenda kutumia east na west vp kuhusu noth na south, je ukieleekea upande wa kusini ktk muelekea mnyoofu utatokea palepale?

Unaweza kututhibitishia juu ni wapi!? Ni kwanini wanaoendaga anga za mbali wanaeleekea angani na si east au west noth au south?
 
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Mfano wako ndio mifano tuliyoaminishwa, coz hakuna aliyewahi kuthibitisha hilo la ukieleekea upande mmoja mnyoofu utatokea palepale, na wanapenda kutumia east na west vp kuhusu noth na south, je ukieleekea upande wa kusini ktk muelekea mnyoofu utatokea palepale?

Unaweza kututhibitishia juu ni wapi!? Ni kwanini wanaoendaga anga za mbali wanaeleekea angani na si east au west noth au south?
Mkuu usiseme tumeaminishwa.Ukianza kuwa na majibu ya hivyo na mimi ntasema umeaminishwa hivyo unavyosema.I am giving you facts.

Nnaanza kupata wasiwasi zaidi dhidi ya utafiti wako baada ya kuniambia kuwa hamna proof ya kuizunguka dunia from east to west.Je, unajua kuna flights from US zinahead west (mostly via polar norths for economical reasons)to reach Asia na wakati huo huo zipo flights zinahead east to reach Asia?This proves my point.
 
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Mkuu usiseme tumeaminishwa.Ukianza kuwa na majibu ya hivyo na mimi ntasema umeaminishwa hivyo unavyosema.I am giving you facts.

Nnaanza kupata wasiwasi zaidi dhidi ya utafiti wako baada ya kuniambia kuwa hamna proof ya kuizunguka dunia from east to west.Je, unajua kuna flights from US zinahead west (mostly via polar norths for economical reasons)to reach Asia na wakati huo huo zipo flights zinahead east to reach Asia?This proves my point.
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watu tunasonga mbele wewe unataka kuturudisha nyuma
 
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Archaic conceptions without mathematical proof....ipo theoretical zaidi bro, mathematics is the language which doesn't lie so ukija na mathematical equations to proof your theory ntakuunga mkono....by the way it is conspiracy theory..
 
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asee watu mpo vizuri

nataman huu uzi uwe na endless coment
 
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Mfano wako ndio mifano tuliyoaminishwa, coz hakuna aliyewahi kuthibitisha hilo la ukieleekea upande mmoja mnyoofu utatokea palepale, na wanapenda kutumia east na west vp kuhusu noth na south, je ukieleekea upande wa kusini ktk muelekea mnyoofu utatokea palepale?

Unaweza kututhibitishia juu ni wapi!? Ni kwanini wanaoendaga anga za mbali wanaeleekea angani na si east au west noth au south?
Mkuu hasa wakienda pande hizo si wanajiongea umbali kutokana na point waliyopo ni rhi wao kuelekea up ndio maana wanasayansi wa japan nao wakitaka kwenda angana wanaeleka upward hawaji kwenye point waliyoondokea wamarekani.
 
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Tatizo umejiandaa kubishana wakati uzi haumlazimishi mtu kuuamini bali unakupa fursa yakutafakari ukweli ni upi na ukiona ni uongo basi amin ukweli uuaminio. Tunaoamini ni flat wengi tumeisoma dunia mviringo kama wewe yaani tuna habari nayo na mpaka ushahidi wa mviringo wake, upatikanaji wa majira kuzama na kuchomoza kwa jua, kupatwa kwa jua na mwezi mpaka mizunguko ya dunia yenyewe kulizunguka jua kujizungusha nk... Hivyo vyote tumejifunza shuleni it keans kabla ya shule tulikua hatujui dunia ikoje au sisi tupo wapi na sidhani kama ulikua unaweza kuamini kua dunia ni mviringo na sisi tumo juu yakenna kuna wakati tunakua kichwa chini miguu juu... Ila kupitia mafunzo darasani tukaoneshwa na picha, video za dunia yetu basi kuanzia hapontukaamini tupo ktk dunia duara mviringo.

Sasa basi, hivyo vyoooote vinavyosapoti uduara mviringo wa. Dunia, vimepingwa kwa hoja baada ya hoja na hadi evidence ya namana dunia ilivyo flat yaani duara tambarare, na jua na mwezi vikizunguka juu yake.

Hivi ni mjinga gani wa kisayansi awezae kupinga hoja bila hoja, yaani akwambie dunia sio mviringo ni flat bila kukupa hoja kua ni flat.? Hivyo basi usilazimishe kuelewa wewe mwenyewe kabla ya anayekujuza hajamaliza kukuelewesha yaani kama kweli unataka kupinga hoja ya dunia kuwa ni flat, inakubidi upoteze muda kweli kuisoma hiyo dunia flat kama ulivyoisoma duara kisha linganisha hoja ya huku na huku juu ya suala moja. Hapa na maanisha, ukitaka kujua kwenye flat earth usiku na mchana tunaupataje, anza kuusoma huu uzi wote mpaka ya wachangiaji maana wapo waliouliza na wakajibiwa vizuri tuu. Au kama vp tembelea youtube au google "day and night flat earth" na ukiona je itakufanya uamini?

Vitu vingi tunafundishwa kwa theory ndio maana mwalimu wa kwanza huwa anaaminiwa sana, maana hakuna hata mmoja wa kuthibitisha uduara wa dunia kwa kuuona yeye mwenye zaidi ya picha na video za NASA!

Kuhusu kuwa angani na kuuona uduara wa dunia wala sio uthibitishonwa uduara huo! Maana ukitaka kuuona hata ukiwa ardhini unaweza kuuona tena vizuri tuu ila sio kwa macho yako bali kwa msaadabwa lenzi mbinuko kama inayopatikana ktk vioo vya ndege na camera nyingi... Tafuta lens ya fish eye, hata ukiwa ardhini dunia itaonekana duara vp usipoitumia mbona uduara unapotea? Kwahiyo mkweli macho yetu au lenzi?

Uzi huu ni elimu kama masomo mengine ila haipo ktk mitaala yetu tuu, laiti kama utawafundisha wasio na habari ya dunia ni duara kama mpira, basi unaweza kukesha nao kuwaambia dunia sio duara flat, so ile elimu ya mwanzo ndio iwanyimao tafakuri watu wengi na hasa waaminio walitokana na Nyani!
mkuu je kivuli cha duara kwenye kupata kwa mwezi kinasababishwa na nini? pili kwanini sayari zote angani ziwe za duara dunia pekee iwe tambarare tatua je kwa dunia tambarare kupata kwa mwezi kunatokeaje
 
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Ingekuwa tambarare tusingepata usiku na mchana, kuhusu uduara wa dunia vipi picha live zinazopigwa ISS na zile za voyager 1 na 2 na bado satellite kibao zinaonyesha uduara wa dunia
Ndio,duara flat!
 
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Mkuu hasa wakienda pande hizo si wanajiongea umbali kutokana na point waliyopo ni rhi wao kuelekea up ndio maana wanasayansi wa japan nao wakitaka kwenda angana wanaeleka upward hawaji kwenye point waliyoondokea wamarekani.
Muelekeo wa upward unaujuaje kuwa huku ni juu ilhali muda huo kunaweza kukawa chini ya wengine. Kwa dunia mviringo kila mtu atakua na juu yake ila kwa dunia tambararevwote tutakua na juu moja.
Pitia picha za mfumo wa jua na sayari zake then utujuze waendso anga za mbali wanaelekea wapi? Kulifuata jua? Au kulikimbia jua?
 
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mkuu je kivuli cha duara kwenye kupata kwa mwezi kinasababishwa na nini? pili kwanini sayari zote angani ziwe za duara dunia pekee iwe tambarare tatua je kwa dunia tambarare kupata kwa mwezi kunatokeaje
Maswali yako la kwanza na la tatu yatajibiwa na utakapoelewa kuwa hata dunia tambarare ni ya duara pia. Ila uduara huo unatofautiana kama mpira na sahani vyote vya duara ila kimoja mviringo kingine tambarare yaani ndio hyo flat iongelewayo.
 
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Mkuu,nianze kusema tu kuwa nasikitika sana baada ya kusoma uzi huu kwa namna watu walivyochangia na wanavyochangia......

Mtoa mada amekuja na kuandika mambo mengi sana namna anavyosema juu ya umbo la dunia na ushahidi ameweka.Ameelezea kuwa yeye anaamini kuwa umbo la dunia ni flat,lakini akasema ni flat ya namna ipi anayoizungumzia.Shida ya kwanza ya watu inaanzia hapa...

Kuna watu wanapoona neno flat basi wanakimbilia kwenye fikra zao namna wanavyofikiria flat,wanafikiria flat kama ya meza tu,hapa ndipo panaponisikitisha kuliko mahala pengine popote pale.Mtoa mada ameelezea kuwa dunia ni flat duara yaani kama cd na michoro ameweka,watu wanakuja kujenga hoja kutoka na fikra za flat ya meza au umbo ambalo soyo duara kabisa.

Kwa kukuthibitishia hili angalia watu wanaojenga hoja kwa kuonesha kuwa mtu anaweza kutoka Dar hadi Sydney kisha akaenda Marekani kisha akarudi Accra na baadaye kurudi Dar.Ukiangalia hoja hii imelalia kwenye fikra za dunia isiyokuwa duara ya namna mleta mada aliyoizungumzia kwenye mada yake maana ukiangalia kwenye hoja za mtoa mada utaona kuwa mtoa mada naye anasema kuwa dunia ni duara lakini siyo mviringo kama tufe bali ni mviringo kama CD.Kwa mviringo huu unaweza kabisa kufanya safari hizo nilizotaja hapo juu bila kuhitajika kurudi nyuma.

Hoja ya watu kuzunguka dunia na kujikuta wamerudia pale pale,hoja hii nayo haishindikani kwenye hoja ya dunia duara ya kama sahani.Ukiangalia utaweza kuona kuwa inawezekana kabisa kuwa mtu akatoka Afrika ya kusini,akapitia Australia kisha akafika Amerika ya kusini kisha akarudi tena alipotoka maana atakuwa amezunguka duara inayosemwa na mtoa mada.Kwa maana hii bado hii haithibitishi kabisa kuwa dunia ni duara kwa maana ya tufe.....

Ameelezea mambo mengi sana pia,miongoni mwa mambo aliyozungumzia ni namna usiku na mchana unavyopatikana,watu hawasomi kabisa majibu na thread yote na unakuta mtu anakuja kurudia hoja ambazo zimeshajibiwa kwa uwazi kabisa na hili ni tatizo jingine,uviovu.Huwezi kujifunza mambo mazito kama haya huku ukiwa mvivu,huwezi na hutaweza kabisa kamwe......

Hoja nyingine ni route za ndege.Mtoa hoja amesema kuhusu hili,watu badala ya kujibu sababu ya ndege kutokuwa na rout hizi wameongeza swali kuwa vipi kuhusu ndege binafsi.Kwanza nafahamu kuwa kuna maswali ambayo ukiulizwa unaweza kuuliza aina fulani ya swali ambalo ukilijibu linaweza kukupa jibu la swali lako,lakini swali hili linaweza kujibu au kutokujibu swali kuu la mtoa mada kwasababu zifuatazo....

1;Hakuna uthibitisho ambao umetolewa hadi sasa wa uwepo wa ndege binafsi zinazokatiza north pole au south pole...

2;Kama kuna huo uwezekano wa ndege binasi kukatiza hapo,ni kwaninio ndege za kibiashara zisipite hapo ili kupunguza umbali mrefu? Kutoka South Afrika hadi Urusi kupitoa Siuth pole na kupitia katikati ya bara la Afrika hadi Geneva kisha Moscow wapi ni karibu?

Kimsingi hoja zote hizi ni mfu na zinaongeza maswali zaidi.Hakuna aliyejisumbua kujibu kuhusu ukweli wa binadamu kwenda mwezini.Hakuna ushahidi wa bibadamu kwenda mwezini....

Suala la meli kitoonekana kwa macho inapokuwa mbali ya macho yako hili mtoa mada amelijibu na ndiyo jibu bora kabisa linaloenezea suala hili.Watu walikuwa wanachukulia suala hili la meli kuzama kuwa ni moja ya ushahidi wa duara ya dunia,hii ikiwa na maana kuwa meli ile inakuwa imeshafika kwenye upande mwingine wa duara ya dunia.Mtoa mada amesema kuwa,kama inakuwa hivyo basi ukichukua kifaa maalum cha kuonea mbali usingeiona meli maana itakuwa iko kwenye upande mwingine wa duara ya dunia.

Mfano mzuri wa jambo hili ni kuchukua kijiti kifupi na ukakichoma kwenye chungwa kwenye upande mmoja kisha ukaligeuza chungwa lile upande mwingine kisha ukaanza kutazama,hutaweza kukiona kijiti kile kwakuwa kitakuwa kwenye upande ambao unazuiwa na muinuko wa chungwa lile hata kama utachukua kifaa cha kuonea mbali.Lakini ukichukua mti ukauchoma chini kwenye barabara iliyonyooka kisha ukaenda umbali wa kilomota 10 ukatazama mti ule hautauona bado lakini hii haimaanishi kuwa huuoni kwakuwa upo kwenye upande wa pili wa dunia bali ni kwasababu macho yako hayaoni tu,ukichukua kifaa utaweza kuuona mti huu.....

Kwa mfano huu ni dhahiri kuwa hoja za dunia duara bado zimegaragazwa kwenye mada hii,leteni nyingine......

Sisi tunajifunza na kuhoji pale ambapo tunaona kuna haja ya kufanya hivyo.......
Kaka nimereply kwa mara yakwanza kwako maana nadhani ww nimoja ya muelewa kama mimi, kifupi kila swali linaloulizwa humu lilishajibiwa kwenye mada ila uvivu wa kuchanganua ndio uliowajaa wauliza maswali
 
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mkuu unasemaje kuhusu tofauti ya saa,kwenye maeneo tofauti ya dunia?
 

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