SGR Kenya sasa rasmi ni "Big white Elephant", Maneno ya " Ndii yatimia.

[joto la jiwe]

Kenya’s big SGR dream begins to fizzle out as losses mount

Kenya’s big SGR dream begins to fizzle out as losses mount

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Kuna msemo maarufu usemao kwamba," Namba hazidanganyi". Hesabu za mapato na matumizi yanaonyesha kwamba, SGR ya Kenya haina uwezo wa kuzalisha hata gharama za uendeshaji kwa mwaka ambayo kwa sasa ni Kshs 12B. Hii ni kutokana na ukweli kwamba imetengeneza 5.8B ndani ya kipindi cha zaidi mwaka mmoja kiasi ambacho ni chini ya 50% ya gharama za uendeshaji. Jambo la kuogopesha zaidi ni kwamba trains zaidi ya 12 kwa siku zimekua zikifanya kazi.

David Ndii, alishawahi kuekeza Mara nyingi sana kuhusu " viability & profitability " ya huu mradi na alishauri kwamba badala ya kujenga reli mpya, ni bora kukopa pesa kidogo ili kufufua reli ya zamani. Maneno yake yametimia:
1) SGR imesababisha Kenya kuwa na deni kubwa linalolipwa na kodi ya wananchi
2) SGR haiwezi kujiendesha, jambo linalolazimisha serikali kutoa pesa za wananchi ili kugharamia gharama za uendeshaji, mwaka Jana pekee serikali ilitoa 6.2B kufikia hasara.
3) Sasa hivi ndio serikali imeona umuhimu wa kufufua reli ya zamani ili kuunganisha na SGR, jambo ambalo litaongeza sana gharama za uendeshaji na usafirishaji kutokana na gharama za kushusha na kupandisha pale Naivasha.

 

[game over]

In a failed state Nothing works.

 

[Mfiaukweli]

It is even more scary to Tanzania. Kumbuka production ya Kenya ni more than thrice ya Tanzania which in turn means wana mizigo mingi zaidi yetu. So if that is the case with their SGR, what will happen to ours?

 

[Barbarosa]

It is even more scary to Tanzania. Kumbuka production ya Kenya ni more than thrice ya Tanzania which in turn means wana mizigo mingi zaidi yetu. So if that is the case with their SGR, what will happen to ours?

Ndo maana ni lazima Raisi Magufuli aendelee hadi ~ 2035 kama kweli tunataka hii miradi isife kama inavyokufa Kenya vinginevyo akiondoka tu, kwishney!

 

[henry kilenga]

It is even more scary to Tanzania. Kumbuka production ya Kenya ni more than thrice ya Tanzania which in turn means wana mizigo mingi zaidi yetu. So if that is the case with their SGR, what will happen to ours?

Kwani nyinyi watu wa ufipa mnaujua ukanda wa kati unavyosifika kwa kuwa na biashara pia angalia reli itakapo ishia ndipo uanza kupayuka

 

[joto la jiwe]

It is even more scary to Tanzania. Kumbuka production ya Kenya ni more than thrice ya Tanzania which in turn means wana mizigo mingi zaidi yetu. So if that is the case with their SGR, what will happen to ours?

Hahahahaha, this is insane thinking, Kenya imports more than it exports, second, Tanzania haijakopa kwahiyo haina deni lolote la kulipa, hivyo tutahitaji tu pesa ya kugharamia uendeshaji na *repair*, third, electric trains running costs are 70% cheaper than diesel ones.

 

[Mfiaukweli]

Hahahahaha, this is insane thinking, Kenya imports more than it exports, second, Tanzania haijakopa kwahiyo haina deni lolote la kulipa, hivyo tutahitaji tu pesa ya kugharamia uendeshaji na *repair*, third, electric trains running costs are 70% cheaper than diesel ones.

Kwako wewe kuwa na asset ambayo haijakopwa it translates into no operating costs? Halafu imports sio mizigo? Je Tanzania ina exports zinazozidi imports? What have you been drinking or smoking?

 

[Mfiaukweli]

Ndo maana ni lazima Raisi Magufuli aendelee hadi ~ 2035 kama kweli tunataka hii miradi isife kama inavyokufa Kenya vinginevyo akiondoka tu, kwishney!

Idiocy at its worst. Kwa hiyo mafanikio ya miradi inategemea uwepo wa Magufuli? What if he dies before then?

 

[joto la jiwe]

Kwako wewe kuwa na asset ambayo haijakopwa it translates into no operating costs? Halafu imports sio mizigo? Je Tanzania ina exports zinazozidi imports? What have you been drinking or smoking?

Tuliza akili acha kuruka ruka, uliposema Kenya inazalisha zaidi Kwahiyo reli yao itapata mzigo mkubwa, hapo ndio nikakuonyesha kwamba sio kweli kwasababu wana import zaidi kuliko Ku export.

Kuhusu kutegemea mizigo ya importation, Tanzania tunapokea imports za Rwanda, Burundi na Sehemu ya Uganda ambayo tunapambana kugawana, kitendo cha SGR ya Kenya kuishia Naivasha, kinatoa nafasi kubwa kwa Uganda kutumia SGR ya Tanzania kupitia ziwa Victoria.

Hivi ukijenga nyumba yako kwa pesa yako kwa ajili ya kuishi na matumizi yako na familia yako, utasema unapata hasara?. Unachohitajika ni pesa ya kulipia umeme, maji na matengezo ya NYUMBA ili isichakae, au namna gani jombaa?.

 

[Mohammed Khatibu]

😲😲😲mkuu!
Unasemaje wewe ati aendelee,!
ili tupigwe za uso nyingine au?
Unaniharibia siku mkuu!

Ndo maana ni lazima Raisi Magufuli aendelee hadi ~ 2035 kama kweli tunataka hii miradi isife kama inavyokufa Kenya vinginevyo akiondoka tu, kwishney!

 

[Barbarosa]

Idiocy at its worst. Kwa hiyo mafanikio ya miradi inategemea uwepo wa Magufuli? What if he dies before then?

Ndiyo, hiyo ni kama dharura na Dunia nzima hufanya hivyo, hata USA Raisi Roosevelt FDR aliongoza miaka 12 badala ya 8 na ndiye aliyeanzisha ,,the new deal”, hivyo kwa kuwa Raisi Magufuli ndiye aliyeanzisha hii miradi basi ni lazima aendelee hadi ikamilike na kuiendesha bila ya hivyo akiondoka na miradi yote kwishney!

 

[Mfiaukweli]

Tuliza akili acha kuruka ruka, uliposema Kenya inazalisha zaidi Kwahiyo reli yao itapata mzigo mkubwa, hapo ndio nikakuonyesha kwamba sio kweli kwasababu wana import zaidi kuliko Ku export.

Kuhusu kutegemea mizigo ya importation, Tanzania tunapokea imports za Rwanda, Burundi na Sehemu ya Uganda ambayo tunapambana kugawana, kitendo cha SGR ya Kenya kuishia Naivasha, kinatoa nafasi kubwa kwa Uganda kutumia SGR ya Tanzania kupitia ziwa Victoria.

Hivi ukijenga nyumba yako kwa pesa yako kwa ajili ya kuishi na matumizi yako na familia yako, utasema unapata hasara?. Unachohitajika ni pesa ya kulipia umeme, maji na matengezo ya NYUMBA ili isichakae, au namna gani jombaa?.

Rudia kusoma nilichoandika. Production ya Kenya ni more than thrice ya Tanzania. It is an undeniable fact. Mizigo ya Rwanda na Burundi ni mingi kiasi gani kiasi kwamba existing railways lines isingetosha? Mombasa ni karibu na sehemu yeyote ya Uganda kulinganisha na Dar es Salaam, so why think Uganda preference yao itakuwa ni Dar es Salaam?
Siku tutakapoacha kujisifia vitu tusivyokuwa navyo na kuanza kufanya maamuzi based on facts ndio tutaendelea. Not what we are doing now.

Insanity is doing the same things while expecting different results.

 

[Ambition plus]

Kwako wewe kuwa na asset ambayo haijakopwa it translates into no operating costs? Halafu imports sio mizigo? Je Tanzania ina exports zinazozidi imports? What have you been drinking or smoking?

When will you start to use your brain chief?
Kumbuka ndugu zetu wanapambana kulipa deni pia na gharama za kuendesha huo mradi.Hauoni tofauti

 

[game over]

It is even more scary to Tanzania. Kumbuka production ya Kenya ni more than thrice ya Tanzania which in turn means wana mizigo mingi zaidi yetu. So if that is the case with their SGR, what will happen to ours?

Inazalisha kipi hicho Mara tatu ya Tanzania?

 

[Mfiaukweli]

When will you start to use your brain chief?
Kumbuka ndugu zetu wanapambana kulipa deni pia na gharama za kuendesha huo mradi.Hauoni tofauti

I started using my brain probably before you were born. For your information; am self-employed and am an employer. I know what the business world demands. It is stupidity thinking that an asset that was acquired on loan is always more expensive to operate than the one acquired otherwise. Ever heard of opportunity and notional costs? Kuna wakati kuwa na nyumba yako mwenyewe ni more expensive operation-wise than renting.

 

[Mfiaukweli]

Inazalisha kipi hicho Mara tatu ya Tanzania?

The very wording of your question suggests naivety.

 

[Ambition plus]

I started using my brain probably before you were born. For your information; am self-employed and am an employer. I know what the business world demands. It is stupidity thinking that an asset that was acquired on loan is always more expensive to operate than the one acquired otherwise. Ever heard of opportunity and notional costs? Kuna wakati kuwa na nyumba yako mwenyewe ni more expensive operation-wise than renting.

Ukitaka nijadili personal life yako pia naweza .u're out of topic.Bado hujatumia akili nonsense .Anyway save u're speech sweetheart

 

[Mfiaukweli]

Ukitaka nijadili personal life yako pia naweza .u're out of topic.Bado hujatumia akili nonsense .Anyway save u're speech sweetheart

You are entitled to your opinion. Keep on believing what your imbecilic brain makes you believe. Nobody will force you to be open-minded and learn. It is your funeral.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Rudia kusoma nilichoandika. Production ya Kenya ni more than thrice ya Tanzania. It is an undeniable fact. Mizigo ya Rwanda na Burundi ni mingi kiasi gani kiasi kwamba existing railways lines isingetosha? Mombasa ni karibu na sehemu yeyote ya Uganda kulinganisha na Dar es Salaam, so why think Uganda preference yao itakuwa ni Dar es Salaam?
Siku tutakapoacha kujisifia vitu tusivyokuwa navyo na kuanza kufanya maamuzi based on facts ndio tutaendelea. Not what we are doing now.

Insanity is doing the same things while expecting different results.

Wewe hueleweki, sasa kama production ya Kenya ni nyingi lakini hawa export hicho wanachozalisha, kinauhusiano gani na SGR kupata mizigo ya kubeba?

Sasa hivi 20% ya mizigo ya Uganda inapitia bandari ya Dar, kukamilika kwa SGR ya Tanzania hadi Mwanza, itafanya gharama za usafirija ya mizigo ya Uganda kupitia Dar, kuwa 50% cheaper kuliko kupitisha Mombasa, kumbuka WFP tayari wsmeshahamisha mizigo yao iliyokua inapitia Mombasa kwenda Uganda na South Sudan, sasa hivi wanapitishia bandari ya Dar hadi Mwanza baada ya kuboresha Huduma za reli ya kati.

Kitendo cha SGR ya Kenya kuwa ya
1)Diesel
2)Kujengwa kwa gharama kubwa sana kwa kilometer
3)Kuishia Naivasha
4)Kujengwa kwa mkopo wenye riba kubwa

Kunaifanya isiweze kufanya biashara ya kiyshindani, hata haiwezi kushindana na usafiri wa malori, achilia mbali kushindana na electric train ambayo haina deni la kulipa.

 

[henry kilenga]

Wewe hueleweki, sasa kama production ya Kenya ni nyingi lakini hawa export hicho wanachozalisha, kinauhusiano gani na SGR kupata mizigo ya kubeba?

Sasa hivi 20% ya mizigo ya Uganda inapitia bandari ya Dar, kukamilika kwa SGR ya Tanzania hadi Mwanza, itafanya gharama za usafirija ya mizigo ya Uganda kupitia Dar, kuwa 50% cheaper kuliko kupitisha Mombasa, kumbuka WFP tayari wsmeshahamisha mizigo yao iliyokua inapitia Mombasa kwenda Uganda na South Sudan, sasa hivi wanapitishia bandari ya Dar hadi Mwanza baada ya kuboresha Huduma za reli ya kati.

Kitendo cha SGR ya Kenya kuwa ya
1)Diesel
2)Kujengwa kwa gharama kubwa sana kwa kilometer
3)Kuishia Naivasha
4)Kujengwa kwa mkopo wenye riba kubwa

Kunaifanya isiweze kufanya biashara ya kiyshindani, hata haiwezi kushindana na usafiri wa malori, achilia mbali kushindana na electric train ambayo haina deni la kulipa.

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