Retired General Karangi aelezea jinsi Kenya ilivyoinyakua Kismayu kutoka kwa mikono ya Al Shabab

Tony254

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Retired chief of the general staff, general Karangi ambaye ndiye alikuwa mkubwa wa majeshi 2012 wakati KDF iliitimua Al Shabab kutoka Kismayu aelezea planning iliyofanyika ili kuiwezesha Kenya kuchukua city hii kutoka kwa Al Shabab. City hii ya Kismayu ni muhimu maana ndio mji wa pili kwa ukubwa huko Somalia baada ya Mogadishu.

 

Kachengcheng

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Indeed Somalia is supposed to be our greatest allie but they are just born of war,you heal their wounds they get strong they decide to pound you the doctor,But hope is still there,many states in Somalia e.g Jubaland and Somaliland,etc, they really respect us and we too really respect then,that why you see big growth in those state,we took their insecurities as ours and now change is visible, Our soldiers died in their war but Mogadishu decided to punch us on the forehead on the light,Faarmajo supports terrorists secretly and now he is attacking our borders but Not an inch they will get!!Faarmajo and his allies are our Greatest enemies!
 

nomasana

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y'all don't even understand what that man is trying to say.

1) It was KDF idea to split up Somalia between KE ET &UG

2) KDF insisted on Kenya getting upper and lower Jubba area which includes Kismayo port which covers that disputed triangle. Kdf didn't even push to control the Somalia north most border with Kenya but they INSISTED on the Southern region.

3)KDF not only put it's soldiers ships and planes in that region and particularly Kismayo but also the Kenyan diplomatic/intelligence agencies control the governor of that region.

4)which means even if Somalia decided to militarily take it from Kenya it would be difficult because KDF controls access to that disputed triangle from the south(Lamu) and the north (Kismayo)

Kenya was never going to give up that disputed triangle and they moved early to secure it. by the time Mogadishu realized what was going on, their goose had already been cooked. they scrambled and ran to the Hague and got a favourable solution but unfortunately for them the court can't enforce their own ruling.

To paraphrase the famous American president Andrew Jackson, "the court made it's decision, now let them enforce it"

the game was over for Somalia before they stepped in the ring....they just didn't know it.
 

Bujibuji Simba Nyanaume

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Retired chief of the general staff, general Karangi ambaye ndiye alikuwa mkubwa wa majeshi 2012 wakati KDF iliitimua Al Shabab kutoka Kismayu aelezea planning iliyofanyika ili kuiwezesha Kenya kuchukua city hii kutoka kwa Al Shabab. City hii ya Kismayu ni muhimu maana ndio mji wa pili kwa ukubwa huko Somalia baada ya Mogadishu.


Mambo yenu na wababe wenu Al Shabaab yanatuhusu nini sisi?
 

Sherlock

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y'all don't even understand what that man is trying to say.

1) It was KDF idea to split up Somalia between KE ET &UG

2) KDF insisted on Kenya getting upper and lower Jubba area which includes Kismayo port which covers that disputed triangle. Kdf didn't even push to control the Somalia north most border with Kenya but they INSISTED on the Southern region.

3)KDF not only put it's soldiers ships and planes in that region and particularly Kismayo but also the Kenyan diplomatic/intelligence agencies control the governor of that region.

4)which means even if Somalia decided to militarily take it from Kenya it would be difficult because KDF controls access to that disputed triangle from the south(Lamu) and the north (Kismayo)

Kenya was never going to give up that disputed triangle and they moved early to secure it. by the time Mogadishu realized what was going on, their goose had already been cooked. they scrambled and ran to the Hague and got a favourable solution but unfortunately for them the court can't enforce their own ruling.

To paraphrase the famous American president Andrew Jackson, "the court made it's decision, now let them enforce it"

the game was over for Somalia before they stepped in the ring....they just didn't know it.
He also said that from 2005 to 2011 Amisom were only in control of 3 blocks in Mogadishu.Kdf entry was a game changer.
 

Hoshea

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y'all don't even understand what that man is trying to say.

1) It was KDF idea to split up Somalia between KE ET &UG

2) KDF insisted on Kenya getting upper and lower Jubba area which includes Kismayo port which covers that disputed triangle. Kdf didn't even push to control the Somalia north most border with Kenya but they INSISTED on the Southern region.

3)KDF not only put it's soldiers ships and planes in that region and particularly Kismayo but also the Kenyan diplomatic/intelligence agencies control the governor of that region.

4)which means even if Somalia decided to militarily take it from Kenya it would be difficult because KDF controls access to that disputed triangle from the south(Lamu) and the north (Kismayo)

Kenya was never going to give up that disputed triangle and they moved early to secure it. by the time Mogadishu realized what was going on, their goose had already been cooked. they scrambled and ran to the Hague and got a favourable solution but unfortunately for them the court can't enforce their own ruling.

To paraphrase the famous American president Andrew Jackson, "the court made it's decision, now let them enforce it"

the game was over for Somalia before they stepped in the ring....they just didn't know it.
Ahaa, so kdf ilikwenda kwa kisingizio cha ugaidi ila lengo kamili ilikuwa ni ile triangle mnapigania mahakamani na Somalia
 

Arnold mrass cannambo

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Indeed Somalia is supposed to be our greatest allie but they are just born of war,you heal their wounds they get strong they decide to pound you the doctor,But hope is still there,many states in Somalia e.g Jubaland and Somaliland,etc, they really respect us and we too really respect then,that why you see big growth in those state,we took their insecurities as ours and now change is visible, Our soldiers died in their war but Mogadishu decided to punch us on the forehead on the light,Faarmajo supports terrorists secretly and now he is attacking our borders but Not an inch they will get!!Faarmajo and his allies are our Greatest enemies!
I don't like their Racist attitude. These people are totally not Compatible with Kenya let alone any EAC state. Our greatest Allie Should in fact be Tanzania, Uganda, South Sudan and Ethiopia.
 

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