Petraeus: US would destroy Russia’s troops if Putin uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine

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Kumekucha NATO wapo tayar anasubiriwa tu bwana PUTIN aanze tu na hizo NUKE zake aoneshwe SHUGHULI

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The US and its allies would destroy Russia’s troops and equipment in Ukraine – as well as sink its Black Sea fleet – if Russian president Vladimir Putin uses nuclear weapons in the country, former CIA director and retired four-star army general David Petraeus warned on Sunday.

Petreaus said that he had not spoken to national security adviser Jake Sullivan on the likely US response to nuclear escalation from Russia, which administration officials have said has been repeatedly communicated to Moscow.

He told ABC News: “Just to give you a hypothetical, we would respond by leading a Nato – a collective – effort that would take out every Russian conventional force that we can see and identify on the battlefield in Ukraine and also in Crimea and every ship in the Black Sea.”

The warning comes days after Putin expressed views that many have interpreted as a threat of a larger war between Russia and the west.

Asked if the use of nuclear weapons by Russia in Ukraine would bring America and Nato into the war, Petreaus said that it would not be a situation triggering the alliance’s Article 5, which calls for a collective defense. That is because Ukraine is not part of Nato – nonetheless, a “US and Nato response” would be in order, Petreaus said.

Petreaus acknowledged that the likelihood that radiation would extend to Nato countries under the Article 5 umbrella could perhaps be construed as an attack on a Nato member.

“Perhaps you can make that case,” he said. “The other case is that this is so horrific that there has to be a response – it cannot go unanswered.”

Yet, Petreaus added, “You don’t want to, again, get into a nuclear escalation here. But you have to show that this cannot be accepted in any way.”

Nonetheless, with pressure mounting on Putin after Ukrainian gains in the east of the country under last week’s annexation declaration and resistance to mobilization efforts within Russia mounting, Petreaus said Moscow’s leader was “desperate”.

“The battlefield reality he faces is, I think, irreversible,” he said. “No amount of shambolic mobilization, which is the only way to describe it; no amount of annexation; no amount of even veiled nuclear threats can actually get him out of this particular situation.

“At some point there’s going to have to be recognition of that. At some point there’s going to have to be some kind of beginning of negotiations, as [Ukrainian] President [Volodymyr] Zelenskiy has said, will be the ultimate end.”

But, Petreaus warned, “It can still get worse for Putin and for Russia. And even the use of tactical nuclear weapons on the battlefield won’t change this at all.” Still, he added, “You have to take the threat seriously.”

Senator Marco Rubio, the ranking Republican member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee told CNN that Putin was down to two choices: established defensive lines or withdraw and lose territory.

Rubio said he believed it “quite possible” that Putin could strike distribution points where US and allied supplies are entering Ukraine, including inside Poland. The senator acknowledged the nuclear threat, but he said most worries about “a Russian attack inside Nato territory, for example, aiming at the airport in Poland or some other distribution point”.

“Nato will have to respond to it,” he said. “How it will respond, I think a lot of it will depend on the nature of the attack and the scale and scope of it.”

But as a senator privy to Pentagon briefings, Rubio resisted being drawn on whether he’d seen evidence that Russia is preparing to use nuclear weapons against Ukraine.

“Certainly, the risk is probably higher today than it was a month ago,” Rubio said, predicting that Russia would probably take an intermediate step.

“He may strike one of these logistical points. And that logistical point may not be inside … Ukraine. To me, that is the area that I focus on the most, because it has a tactical aspect to it. And I think he probably views it as less escalatory. Nato may not.”

The Gurdian
 
Nimesoma paragraph 2 za mwanzo ni dhahiri NATO wanamhofia sana huyu mwamba.

Super power wa mchongo US. kafanyiwa uhuni na hana namna.
Tumeenda alikoweka chimbo la milele tumeharibu maabara zake na kuchukua mikoa bado anasema nichokoze uone.

Yaani nimekudunda unajifanya hujadundwa badala yake unasema nichokoze uone
 
Tafuta video ya Bush siku ana tangaza vita dhidi ya Afghanistan ndo utajua vita ni rahisi ukiwa mbele ya mic na kamera sio battlefield. Aliongea mikwara mingi sana ila mwisho wa siku US amekwama kule miaka 20
 
Hayo ni maoni ya mtu ambaye ameshastaafu!Kauli kama hiyo ingetolewa na mamlaka ingekuwa na uzito kidogo!
Nways,why wait mpaka nuclear itumike!Nendeni mkamstopishe Putin!
 
Ukisoma kichwa cha uzi na jinisi ulivyoanza kwenye uzi kwama US and its allies unajua tu shoga mkuu ni muoga sans, anajificha kwenye kichaka cha mashoga wenzake
 
Mimi naona watu wanawapa Russia sifa za kijinga kuhusu uwezo wao wa kijeshi.

Russia ni wepesi sana kuliko tulivyofikiri.

Kufikiria kutumia nukes ni kwamba wameshindwa vita.Hawana njia mbadala zaidi ya kutishia nukes🤔
 
Asiyemjua David atababwaja....tunaomjua we salute him

USA alikuwa akitumia gharama kubwa Sana per day wkt was mwanzo was Vita ya iraq na matokea yalikuwa madogo.
Huyu mwamba alikuwa mchambuzi was Vita na logistics tu pale pentagon.Alifika Iraq mara kadhaa kuona upiganaji was vikosi vya marekani.
Akajifungia Pentagon akaja na paperwork namna gani US should fight in Iraq...akaruhusiwa kufanya ground work na kuwasiliana na makundi anayoyataka ndani na nje ya Iraq.
Baadae US ika implement upo mpango mapigano ambao ulileta unafuu Sana kwa gharama na front line commanders.

Inaaminika kwamba baada ya WW2 huyu ndiye mwanajeshi was mmarekani anayetumia akili zaidi to draft mapigano.
 
waNATOmbwa wakawaonee wakina Libya na Iraq huko, kwa Urusi wanapigwa kavu mpaka rojorojo la njano lianza kutema
 
If US is serious on this, then Russia (Specifically P-U-T-I-N) should have been detroyed long ago !!!
 
Utawala wa Putin ni ujuha. Mtu unakaaje kuongoza nchi kama mali yako? Ina maana rasilimali watu wooote wa Russia hakuna awezaye kuongoza nchi zaidi yake?
... anawaendesha warusi kama misukule kwa mkono wa chuma; yeye ni alpha na omega huko Russia. Huwa inashangaza sana baadhi ya members humu wanashabikia jitu la aina hii kwamba ni shujaa wao!
 
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