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'A Life Destroyed': Survivors And Pope At Vatican Summit Address Clergy Sex Abuse
February 21, 20196:30 PM ET
AMY HELD
YLVIA POGGIOLI
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Pope Francis arrives for the opening of a sexual abuse prevention summit at the Vatican on Thursday.
Vincenzo Pinto/AP

Thursday at the Vatican, Pope Francis stood before some 200 participants in an unprecedented summit on preventing clergy sex abuse and said Catholics are seeking not simply "condemnations" but "concrete, effective measures."
But a crisis that has crossed borders and generations, lacerating the church and shaking the pope's credibility, is standing in the way as he seeks to forge a path ahead.

Francis, who leads more than 1 billion Catholics across the world, offered 21 "reflection points," which were distributed to attendees. They include general guidelines for addressing the crisis.
Among the proposals:
  • Establishing protocols for handling accusations against bishops.
  • Having candidates for priesthood undergo psychological evaluations.
  • Formulating mandatory codes of conduct for clerics and volunteers outlining "appropriate boundaries in personal relationships."
  • Establishing a group with a "certain autonomy" from the church easily accessible to victims who want to report a crime.

The pope exhorted the bishops and religious superiors in attendance to "listen to the cry of the young seeking justice."
Five anonymous abuse survivors addressed the gathering via video.

A woman from Africa relayed her experience of being raped by a priest, beginning at the age of 15.
"I got pregnant three times, and he made me have abortions three times." She added that her life had been "destroyed."

Another survivor from Chile said the church's leaders had discredited victims and protected the priests who abused them.
"You are the physicians of the soul and yet, with rare exceptions, you have been transformed, in some cases, into murderers of the soul, into murderers of the faith," he said.

Philippine Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle choked up when he told the gathering that "wounds have been inflicted by us, the bishops, on the victims. ... We need to help them to express their deep hurts and to help heal from them," he said, adding that perpetrators need to face justice.

The summit comes more than three decades after sex abuse revelations came to light in Ireland and Australia. In the U.S., an explosive investigation in 2002 by The Boston Globe uncovering sexual abuse in the Boston archdiocese helped open the door for more cases to emerge.

Other recent high-profile scandals, including a reportoutlining massive sex abuse and cover-ups by clergy in Pennsylvania, the pope acknowledging the widespread abuse of nuns by priests, and the toppling of church leaders, have all plagued the church.
Despite the unprecedented gathering, church leaders have been reluctant to address what critics say is an ingrained history of abuse, and some Catholics remain skeptical that any real change will be enacted.

But survivors from around the world who have descended on Rome for the summit are raising their voices anyway in a bid for change. Juan Carlos Cruz, a victim of a Chilean predator priest, was among those calling for zero tolerance by the church.

"Raping a child has been a crime in the first century, in the Middle Ages, and now and it will be in future," he said. "I don't find any excuse to not change radically, because the church is on borrowed time right now."
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Survivors of sex abuse gather near St. Peter's Square during a twilight vigil in Rome on Thursday, the same day Pope Francis opened a landmark sex abuse prevention summit.
Gregorio Borgia/AP

Vatican officials have historically justified the absence of universal rules and mandatory reporting to civil authorities, saying accused clergy could be unfairly persecuted in authoritarian states where Catholics are a threatened minority.
The summit continues through the weekend and will close with another speech by the pope.
 
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'A Life Destroyed': Survivors And Pope At Vatican Summit Address Clergy Sex Abuse
February 21, 20196:30 PM ET
AMY HELD
YLVIA POGGIOLI
ap_19052321695680_wide-4a0d0d6eb7bd6caa40ad66f4883cb455b693ce7f-s800-c85.jpg


Pope Francis arrives for the opening of a sexual abuse prevention summit at the Vatican on Thursday.
Vincenzo Pinto/AP

Thursday at the Vatican, Pope Francis stood before some 200 participants in an unprecedented summit on preventing clergy sex abuse and said Catholics are seeking not simply "condemnations" but "concrete, effective measures."
But a crisis that has crossed borders and generations, lacerating the church and shaking the pope's credibility, is standing in the way as he seeks to forge a path ahead.

Francis, who leads more than 1 billion Catholics across the world, offered 21 "reflection points," which were distributed to attendees. They include general guidelines for addressing the crisis.
Among the proposals:
  • Establishing protocols for handling accusations against bishops.
  • Having candidates for priesthood undergo psychological evaluations.
  • Formulating mandatory codes of conduct for clerics and volunteers outlining "appropriate boundaries in personal relationships."
  • Establishing a group with a "certain autonomy" from the church easily accessible to victims who want to report a crime.

The pope exhorted the bishops and religious superiors in attendance to "listen to the cry of the young seeking justice."
Five anonymous abuse survivors addressed the gathering via video.

A woman from Africa relayed her experience of being raped by a priest, beginning at the age of 15.
"I got pregnant three times, and he made me have abortions three times." She added that her life had been "destroyed."

Another survivor from Chile said the church's leaders had discredited victims and protected the priests who abused them.
"You are the physicians of the soul and yet, with rare exceptions, you have been transformed, in some cases, into murderers of the soul, into murderers of the faith," he said.

Philippine Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle choked up when he told the gathering that "wounds have been inflicted by us, the bishops, on the victims. ... We need to help them to express their deep hurts and to help heal from them," he said, adding that perpetrators need to face justice.

The summit comes more than three decades after sex abuse revelations came to light in Ireland and Australia. In the U.S., an explosive investigation in 2002 by The Boston Globe uncovering sexual abuse in the Boston archdiocese helped open the door for more cases to emerge.

Other recent high-profile scandals, including a reportoutlining massive sex abuse and cover-ups by clergy in Pennsylvania, the pope acknowledging the widespread abuse of nuns by priests, and the toppling of church leaders, have all plagued the church.
Despite the unprecedented gathering, church leaders have been reluctant to address what critics say is an ingrained history of abuse, and some Catholics remain skeptical that any real change will be enacted.

But survivors from around the world who have descended on Rome for the summit are raising their voices anyway in a bid for change. Juan Carlos Cruz, a victim of a Chilean predator priest, was among those calling for zero tolerance by the church.

"Raping a child has been a crime in the first century, in the Middle Ages, and now and it will be in future," he said. "I don't find any excuse to not change radically, because the church is on borrowed time right now."
ap_19052638151623-b385240dadf920c656a353c5ea330103fa8e02f9-s800-c85.jpg


Survivors of sex abuse gather near St. Peter's Square during a twilight vigil in Rome on Thursday, the same day Pope Francis opened a landmark sex abuse prevention summit.
Gregorio Borgia/AP

Vatican officials have historically justified the absence of universal rules and mandatory reporting to civil authorities, saying accused clergy could be unfairly persecuted in authoritarian states where Catholics are a threatened minority.
The summit continues through the weekend and will close with another speech by the pope.
Inatisha.
 
Hili kanisa ni uozo, mwingine huyu hapa rafiki ya Papa Francis kafanya kweli Australia. Huyu ni namba tatu kutoka papa na papa yupo kimya! Wanangoja ipite miaka 50?

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Australian court convicts once-powerful Vatican official on sex-abuse-related charges



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Cardinal George Pell walks to a car in Melbourne on Monday. (William West/AFP/Getty Images)
By Chico Harlan
December 12, 2018
VERONA, Italy — Cardinal George Pell has been found guilty in Australia of charges related to sexual abuse, according to two people familiar with the case and other media reports, becoming the highest-ranking Vatican official to face such a conviction.
The conviction provides one of the clearest examples of how the sexual abuse scandal has eroded the church’s credibility while ensnaring figures in the upper echelons of power. Pell, who has categorically

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Hivi unalitetea kanisa katoliki, unatetea Makasisi, unatetea nafsi yako?

Unafahamu maana ya 85% ndani ya makao makuu ya ukatoliki kuwa mashoga? Na hauoni tatizo lolote hapo?

Unafahamu maana ya mpaka Rais wa nchi (Duterte wa Ufilipino) kulalamika kuwa alishafanyiwa mambo ya kishoga na mapadri wa kanisa katoliki? Na huoni tatizo lolote hapo?

Unafahamu maana ya Umoja wa Mataifa kulilalamikia kanisa katoliki kuwa linaharibu maelfu ya watoto duniani kwa liwati?

Dah! Kama yote hayo unafahamu na hauoni tatizo lolote nikuweke kundi lipi?
Yesu Ametwambia watu kama hao ni "MAGUGU" na Hukumu yao katupa ww tu ndio unaona mapya
ulitaka tuwageuze kibla??
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watu badala ya kujadili tatizo wanajadili dini lakini wanasahau kuwa matendo haya kila siku yanaripotiwa yakihusisha viongozi wa dini wa imani tofauti cha ajabu viongozi wa dini zao wakiripotiwa wanakuwa kimya ila hakuna dini inayoruhusu uzinifu, ulawiti au ubakaji wote ni wakosaji
 
Naona great thinkers hapa wapo kimya, ndio kwanza 18 saivi. Ila ingekuwa inasema shekh fulani amelawiti, hakika page ingeshafika 200 hapa na kashfa za kutosha,.

Ule uzi wa unguja jamaa kushtakiwa kwa kutaka kumuingilia mkewe kinyume cha maumbile, watu walidhihaki sana, wakahusisha hadi Qur ani, kuwa eti ni sunna. Lakini hapa toka nianze kusoma sijaona sehemu biblia inahusishwa, hii ni kwa sababu upande ambao unahusika kukosoa unaheshim sana vitabu vya Mungu, tukumbuke, kitendo kikifanywa na mtu, awe wa dini fulani, shekh, mchungaji, ustadh, padri. Naomba isihusishwe dini yake, hakuna dini hata moja inayoruhusu zinaa au kuingiliana kinyume na maumbile.
Kwa sababu tendo hilo limefanywa na mtu na sio dini.
Mfano kwa hili, padri katenda uovu na sio kanisa katoliki, wala sio ukristo.

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Nlipoanza kukusoma mwanzo nliona ndo walewale lakini nkajikuta nipo wrong hase watu wangekuwa na mawazo kama yako dunia ingekuwa sehemu salama sana, suala la ugaidi na mengine yasingekuwepo kabisa,hizi dhambi za watu binafsi hazitakiwi kabisa kuhusishwa na dini maana vitabu vinataja waziwazi kuwa ushoga ni dhambi kubwa sana lakini bado kuna mchungaji anafungisha ndoa ya wanaume wawili halafu mtu anaanza kusema ukristo umeruhusu ndo ya jinsia moja, hivyo hivyo kwa upande wa pili kuna mambo yanafanyika na wengi lakini sio kwamba ni halali,

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Uislam hauna vyeo hivyo. Ukiona vyeo vya namna hiyo ujuwe ni kanisa hilo.

Umeona makadinali wanavyo lawitiana na kuharibu watoto wadogo ndani ya kanisa katoliki?
Zurri dini yenu haina cheo yani haina khalifa, shekhe imamu wala yule wa qabala kasema huyu mwanamke
 
Kumbuka unaongea na Muislam ambae anaefata Uislam uliokuja hususan kutanabahisha makosa kama hayo na kuwataka mjisalimishe kwa Muumba wetu mmoja. Usifikiri tupo hapa kimakosa. Tupo kwa ajili ya wote na Uislam upo kwa ajili yako pia.

Qur'an 2:
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208. Enyi mlio amini! Ingieni katika Uislamu kwa ukamilifu, wala msifuate nyayo za She'tani; hakika yeye kwenu ni adui aliye wazi.
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Quran 2:106. Ishara yoyote tunayo ifuta au tunayo isahaulisha tunailetea iliyo bora kuliko hiyo, au iliyo mfano wake. Hujui kwamba Mwenyezi Mungu ni Muweza wa kila kitu?

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Haya kwa mujibu wa maneno yako mwenyewe dini yako ilikuja kutanabaisha makosa yani kusahihisha kisha wajinga wajisalimishe kwa mungu mwenye nyumba yake makkah.
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Maswali
1. Wayahudi wako miaka maelfu kwa maelfu hawajawahi kubadilika wanaabudu na kufuata sheria za Musa aliyewatoa utumwani hawa wanamuabudu Yahweh hawamuabudu allah othman na Muddy hawakulijua hili?
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2. Watu waliokula na kufanya kazi na Kristo mitume 12 walioagizwa kueneza injili wanatutaka tubatizwe na kumkiri Yesu ni njia ya uzima.
Hiyo dini iliyokuja kusahihisha iliupeleka wapi ubatizo?

3. Mungu kuanzia kitabu cha mwanzo hadi ufunuo wa Yohana hajawahi kusema ana dini au ili upate kuokolewa fuata dini fulani hajawahi.
Huyu allah amekuwaje na dini kama ndiye Mungu aliyeabudiwa na manabii na mitume (marehemu wenu sio mtume)
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4. Mungu ameapa katika Biblia hatokaa aipige dunia tena hivyo haitotokea siku dunia itaangamia au watu fulani kuangamia kwa ghadhabu ya Mungu na inatamka waziwazi Kristo ni mwana wa Mungu.
Dini yenu iliyokuja kusahihisha status ya Kristo kuwa mwana wa Mungu imeipeleka wapi?
 
Hao ni viongozi wa kanisa na haya yametabiriwa ndani ya Biblia.
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Haya Muhammad alimfanya nini aisha akiwa na miaka tisa?

Alimuoa kisheria na kuwa mke wa halali
Kwa taarifa yako mwanamke anakua kibaiologia na Anatimia kila kiungo wala haijalishi umri

Tatizo ni wanaume kwa wanaume kutoana urojo hapo ndio penye shida na dini ikaliruhusu hilo huo ndio mtihani
 
Alimuoa kisheria na kuwa mke wa halali
Kwa taarifa yako mwanamke anakua kibaiologia na Anatimia kila kiungo wala haijalishi umri

Tatizo ni wanaume kwa wanaume kutoana urojo hapo ndio penye shida na dini ikaliruhusu hilo huo ndio mtihani
"Alimuoa kisheria"
Muhammad alimchukua Aisha kwao akiwa na miaka sita (6) na kuanza kumuingilia kingono akiwa na miaka tisa (9) je ni sahihi mtoto wa miaka sita kuozeshwa na kuanza kuingiliwa kingono akiwa chini ya miaka kumi?
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Umezungumzia sababu za kibaiolojia nyakati hizo za kale (miaka ya 1940-1985) watu walikuwa na miaka 20 sawasawa na miaka 10 ya watoto wa 2000+.
Turudi nyuma hadi mwaka 600 baada ya Kristo mtoto wa kike wa miaka sita alikuwa na muonekano wa namna gani? Tena wa kiarabu
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La mwisho uko radhi nianze kumuingilia binti yako wa miaka tisa kwa makubaliano awe mke wangu?
 
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