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Obama na Israel

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by FarLeftist, Nov 12, 2010.

  1. FarLeftist

    FarLeftist JF-Expert Member

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    Is this is a sick joke?

    While visiting Israel in March, Joe Biden, the US vice president, delivered a speech that delighted the Israeli Right and its followers here. The key passage was this: "When it comes to Israel's security there can be no daylight - no daylight - between Israel and the US."

    That formulation, which was devised by the pro-Israel lobby here, pleased the Netanyahu government, which interprets it to mean that Israel has carte blanch from Washington to do whatever it wants. No other country in the world enjoys such a pledge from the US.

    Within hours, the Israeli government responded to Biden's endorsement by announcing that it would be building 1,600 new settler units in Arab East Jerusalem.

    That announcement - and the slap in the face that it represented - led to the Spring 2010 crisis in US-Israel relations that seemed to indicate that, at long last, the US was standing up to Israel on the settlement issue. In Israel, it was widely speculated that Netanyahu's government would fall. Many believed that the dispute would force him to implement a settlement freeze or face serious consequences.

    But then, surprising even Netanyahu, the Obama administration surrendered. Without Israel conceding anything, the administration let just a short time pass before it not only caved on settlements but denied that there ever was a crisis between the two governments.

    And the sad thing is that Obama could have prevailed. The Israeli Right knew it had a weak hand to play while the Israeli peace camp was suddenly optimistic that Obama would be the "honest broker" he had promised to be.

    But political considerations prevailed. Despite the fact that polls have always shown that most supporters of Israel in this country oppose settlements, the lobby and the Democratic Party donors who take their cues from the lobby warned Obama to back off.

    Obama did. And the administration has been flailing in the region ever since.

    Al Jazeera
  2. Kinyungu

    Kinyungu JF-Expert Member

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    Israelites control everything in the world..Obama has no choice but to bow down to them..It is very likely the Kenyan gay will be "one term" president. It sounds bitter but that is the reality....we have to swallow it
  3. Ehud

    Ehud JF-Expert Member

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    Infact that is indisputable truth....from Russia to Germany to USA, now in Brazil now one can challenge the power of these chosen people....If it tastes bitter, spit it out...I like it..
  4. boma2000

    boma2000 JF-Expert Member

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    Obama is there to destroy the longtime relationship between Israel, its one of the reason I see him a one term president.
  5. Mziba

    Mziba JF-Expert Member

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    Its more complex than you think. fyi. everyone in the world would like to see peace in the middle east. you get it. not only whites, arabs, Israelis etc. give the guy a break. ok? give hi a chance to lead. thats all
  6. FarLeftist

    FarLeftist JF-Expert Member

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    i still trust him, he can deliver the goods, let's wait...
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    Shamu JF-Expert Member

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    AIPAC is a Jewish machine lobby group. No one can defeats them, they have money to influence any political party, individual or any groups.
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    October JF-Expert Member

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    i don't support Obama, He and Hilary Clinton because of their political failure at home are diverting attention by trying to score a political goal even at the expense of Israel. They have stated acting foolishly by putting pressure on Israel to divide Jerusalem. This is absurd, they are brewing curse on themselves.

    God calls the nation of Israel "the apple of his eye."( Zechariah 2:8 ) .God uses the phrase, "the apple of his eye" to show how much he valued Israel.

    Obama and Hillary better be aware of this..., anybody who mess with God's eye will surely be judged.
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    Njowepo JF-Expert Member

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    Israel its a nation that will always have a USA and UK support!
    Most of the time Israel takes decisions on its own and others just end up supporting it
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    John10 JF-Expert Member

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    Unazungumzia Taifa la Israel, au WanaIsreal. Kuna Waisrael ambao wanaofuata maneno ya mungu ambao wanaamini they should DIVIDE Jerusalem. Na kuna wale ambao hawaamini kabisa Mungu unaoamini wewe, ambao pia ni Waisrael.
    Orthodox Jews ambao ndiyo wanaofuata traditioanally Jews principles wanaamini kwamba Israel should not be a STATE according to Taurat.

    Angalia hiyo Clip.

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  11. Kipala

    Kipala JF-Expert Member

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    Jamani kweli ni vigumu kujadili hapa haari za Israeli maana wengi wanachanganya "Taifa teule la Mungu la iblia" na nchi ya kisasa ya Israeli.
    Si jambo lilelile.