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    The Truth JF-Expert Member

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    Rathergate II: Certification of Live Birth a clear forgery

    Posted: November 25, 2008
    1:00 am Eastern

    © 2008

    The media bought it. The voters bought it. And now some in Congress are resisting the idea of congressional hearings because they believe that Barack Obama's "birth certificate" has been posted online.

    Not so.

    What was posted was not a birth certificate, but something that resembles a "Certification of Live Birth" or COLB, which, even if authentic, does not prove "natural born" U.S. citizenship. You see, in Hawaii, a Certification of Live Birth is issued within a year of a child's birth to those who register a birth abroad or one that takes place outside a hospital.

    It's Rathergate all over again with more amiss than a 1970s Selectric typewriter. But before I tell you what the experts found, let me ask you a few questions:

    If you were a natural born American citizen and had it within your means to quiet all the lawsuits and questions with proof, would you do it?

    If you were a natural born American citizen, would you spend thousands of dollars to fight the legal cases against you, or would you simply answer the legitimate question of whether you meet the constitutional requirements for office?

    If you were a natural born American citizen, would you forge a document called a "Certification of Live Birth" and tell the public it was a real "birth certificate"?
    If someone were to violate the law by manufacturing a forgery in order trick the public, would that be enough evidence for members of Congress to conduct hearings and for a court to issue an order for the critical records, including the original long-form birth certificate (signed by the doctor) to ensure that the U.S. constitutional requirements for office were not violated? After all, Congress is sworn to uphold and defend that Constitution, and the justices on the U.S. Supreme Court are "guardians" of the Constitution. That's their job, isn't it?

    Ron Polarik, who holds a Ph.D. in Instructional Media and specializes in computer graphics with over 20 years experience with computers, printers and typewriters, has come forth with more definitive evidence than the word processor that tried to simulate a 1970s Selectric typewriter.

    Polarik has submitted a signed affidavit and has now released his findings on video at YouTube - Obama Forgery Exposed (Dr. Polarik Official Use) with his identity masked and voice altered to guard against the carrying out of threats, which he has already received.

    (Column continues below)

    The Summary: The Certificate of Live Birth documents posted on Mr. Obama's website Fight The Smears - Learn the Truth About Barack Obama, Daily Kos (a pro-Obama blog) and factcheck.org, (a pro-Obama political research group), were found to be altered and forged.

    The problem of the pixels: When you have a green patterned document such as this, there should be a lot of green pixels from the background showing up between the letters that appear on the certification. But in this case, instead of green pixels, there are white and grey pixels between the letters, which result when you replace existing text with other text.

    There is no second fold line. The pictures show two folds – necessary to fit any COLB into an envelope for mailing, but the document itself shows only one fold. This is another indication of document alteration.

    There's a blurred border. The border has a lower resolution than the rest of the document, which is another indication that it has been altered.

    The border is one that is used in 2007 COLBs. As a security measure, Hawaii changes their borders every year. This is when the Obama campaign claims the certificate was obtained. That is fine except for the problem that …

    The seal and signature stamp are from a 2008 COLB. As revealed by a process called edging, the Hawaiian seal and signature stamp on the back of the document are revealed to be from the wrong year!
    Like with Rathergate, when you're creating documents, make sure you use only a typewriter that was invented at the time you report the document was manufactured. When posting a "Certification of Live Birth," make sure you "borrow" only from documents used in the same year!

    Be sure to sign the petition demanding evidence of Barack Obama's constitutional qualifications.

    But beyond the birth certificate issue, there's the matter that Obama traveled to Indonesia, Pakistan, Southern India and Kenya in 1981. He said he went to Indonesia to see his mother. This seemed plausible, except for the fact that his mother returned to Hawaii in August of 1980 to file for a divorce from her second husband, Lolo Soetoro. Unless she went back to pal around with the man she divorced, she wasn't there at the time of Obama's visit.

    There's another problem. No record of Obama holding an American passport prior to the one he received once becoming a U.S. senator has been found. If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn't have been allowed in – since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial law. It was also on the State Department's travel ban list for U.S. citizens.

    If he couldn't get into Pakistan with a U.S. passport, perhaps he went there with an Indonesian passport. But the only way you can get one of those is if you are an Indonesian citizen.

    That's quite possible since under Indonesian law, when a male acknowledges a child as his son, it deems the son – in this case Obama – to be an Indonesian state citizen, which was also recorded by Obama's school record.

    So, if he didn't go to Indonesia in 1981 to visit mom (who had returned to Hawaii by then), might it have something to do with the fact that Indonesian passports expire every five years and it was time for renewal?

    Why does that matter?

    If Obama would have been a U.S. citizen, 8 USC §1481(a)(2) provides loss of nationality by native born citizens upon "taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state ... after having attained the age of eighteen years," in violation of 8 U.S.C. §1401(a)(1). Simply put, since Indonesia did not allow for dual citizenship, if Obama got that passport in 1981, when he was 20 years old, he effectively renounced any U.S. citizenship he may have had.

    So, if the experts are right, Obama forged a Certification of Live Birth to fool America. In addition to the automatic Indonesian citizenship granted to a child acknowledged as a "son" by an Indonesian male citizen, and the Indonesian citizenship listed in Obama's school records, Obama then traveled to a place where Americans weren't allowed to go, but citizens of Indonesia were. If he obtained an Indonesian passport on his trip in 1981, he effectively renounced any American citizenship he may have had and cannot serve as president (or "rule" as president, as members of his campaign have stated). These are serious questions that must have answers.

    If Obama gets into office without verification that he has met the requirements of the U.S. Constitution, if you care about life, liberty or the family, you're going to have to make hundreds of calls to try and fight an agenda that seeks to silence you.

    There is a way to help prevent this. Our founders sacrificed their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor. I'm asking you to do three things.

    Fast and pray for all the hidden things to come to light.

    Call the Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee – in their district offices while they're home this week for Thanksgiving. Ask them to "Please hold congressional hearings to investigate whether Barack Obama meets the basic constitutional requirements for the highest office of the land."

    Write a letter to the nine Justices of the United States Supreme Court (names are listed below) and put them in a FedEx (or other overnight) envelope to:
    U.S. Supreme Court
    1 First Street, N.E
    Washington, D.C. 20543

    Our Constitution matters and defending it is going to take an outcry from the public. The electors vote on Dec. 15. The numbers are below and your immediate action is critically needed right now. Do it before defending our liberties costs a lot more than making some phone calls and writing a few letters.

    The Republican House Judiciary members: Call them at 202-225-3121, AND most importantly reach them in their district offices:

    Lamar Smith (Texas), ranking member, critical in any hearings: 512-306-0439 Austin, 830-896-0154 Kerrville, and 210-821-5024 San Antonio.

    James Sensenbrenner (Wisconsin) 800-242-1119 or 262-784-1111 Brookfield

    Howard Coble (North Carolina) 336-333-5005 Greensboro, 336-626-3060 Asheboro, 336-886-5106 High Point, 226-229-0159 Graham, 704-209-0426 Granite Quarry

    Elton Gallegly (California) 800-423-0023 or 805-497-2224 Thousand Oaks, 805-686-2525 Solvang

    Bob Goodlatte (Virginia) 540-432-2391 Harrisonburg, 434-845-8306 Lynchburg, 540-857-2672 Roanoke, and 540-885-3861 Staunton

    Steve Chabot (Ohio) 513-684-2723 Cincinnati

    Dan Lungren (California) 916-859-9906 Gold River

    Chris Cannon (Utah) 800-571-2971 Provo, 801-569-5125 West Jordan

    Ric Keller (Florida) 407-872-1962 Orlando, 888-642-1211 Eustis, 888-642-1211 Ocala

    Darrell Issa (California) 951-693-2447 Temecula, 760-599-5000 San Diego

    Mike Pence (Indiana) 765-640-2919 Anderson, 765-962-2883 Richmond, 765-747-5566 Muncie

    Randy Forbes (Virginia) 757-382-0080 Chesapeake, 804-526-4969 Colonial Heights, 434-634-5575 Emporia

    Steve King (Iowa) 641-782-2495 Creston, 712-580-7754 Spencer, 712-325-1404 Council Bluffs, 712-224-4692 Sioux City, 712-732-4197 Storm Lake

    Tom Feeney (Florida) 386-756-9798 Port Orange, 407-208-1106 Orlando, 321-264-6113 Titusville

    Trent Franks (Arizona) 623-776-7911 Glendale

    Louie Gohmert (Texas) 866-535-6302 Lufkin/Marshall/Nagadoches, 903-236-8597 Longview, 903-561-6349 Tyler

    Jim Jordan (Ohio) 419-522-5757 Mansfield, 419-999-6455 Lima, 419-423-3210 Findlay

    Supreme Court Justices

    Chief Justice John Roberts

    Associate Justices:

    Samuel A. Alito
    Clarence Thomas
    Antonin Scalia
    Anthony M. Kennedy
    David H. Souter
    John Paul Stevens
    Stephen G. Breyer
    Ruth Bader Ginsberg

    How important is the Constitution to you? Forward this to all you know.

    Be sure to sign the petition demanding evidence of Barack Obama's constitutional qualifications.

    Rathergate II: Certification of Live Birth a clear forgery
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    Kandambilimbili R I P

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    KAzi imeanza
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    Oh! please this is so low
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    ....Jungu tu hilo hakuna kitu hapo!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Uzushi mwingine huo- walishamfukua wakamshindwa, hawana nyimbo ANYMORE!
  6. Next Level

    Next Level JF-Expert Member

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    Haya hope ni maneno ya mfa maji......nothing new here anyway!
  7. Kweli

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    Blah blah blah.........

    Raj Patel, a.k.a the truth.
    Spare us our time.
    We know you are a very patriotic American citizen, but can you please tell me what is the significant of your post? My understanding of your copied and pasted article is that, it was aimed to American GOP supporters, so why you bring it here on JF? I can't understand!
    It is unlikely there are many JF members who will respond en masse and write back to those Republican House Judiciary members !! Most here are not Americans let alone GOP members!!!
    We all know Obama was born on top of big tree, somewhere in Kenya's village, actually his parents flied by 'ungo' from Hawaii, brought Barack into the world from that tree then back to Hawaii but which is proper way to influence American public to buy this argument? That job is up to twisted right wing, Klan members and Rednecks.
    One thing for sure though is majority of Americans are not naive and live in 21 century and that is why Obama got where he is today, unlike few of you who is clearly left behind, miss the bus and still stuck in 60s (if your posts is any form of judging your true state of mind)
    You are so obsessed with Obama being a president-elect huuh? Get a life Raj and accept the reality of life in 21st century,the fact remains you will see more and more black peoples achieve their life goals, whether you like it or not.
    You can't control the reality that the colour of one skin is no longer the barrier for one to be successful, instead nowadays success or failure depends on someone hardwork and determinations. YES WE CAN!!!
    Let me give you this fact: Hate Is Slow Killer (which is very painful death) The more you hate the more you demage your heart and mind, the more you will continue to suffer internally, the more likely to increase serious damage to your Brain and Organs, subsequently the reason to your painful DEATH, Who have last laugh eeh? You HATER or Bantu who continue living his life happily, achieving something and cause you more pain?
    The Mumbai attacks is currently a very sad and serious issue which I think is far more important and close to you (as someone of Asian background) enough to engage your brain and join sensible discussion, unfortunately we haven't seen your contributions on this so far? Instead you always throws more nonsense after nonsense!!!
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    Huyu ni muhindi?,kazi ipo
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    Wewe badala ya kufuatilia moto huko kwenu Mumbai bado unahangaika na habari zisizokuwa na kichwa wala miguu. Ulianza kwa kusema BHO ni empty suit toka enzi zile za primaries, badae ukaanza kusema ooh wazungu hawawezi kumchagua, ooh! hawezi kumshinda Mccain, baadae ooh hispanics ndio wamemsaidia ashinde sasa unakuja na hii .

    Hivi hujui kama uchaguzi ulishaisha?????? Na habari moto moto sasa ni moto huko kwenu???????
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    Jasusi JF-Expert Member

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    Huyu Patel wala msimwite patriotic anything. He is a hate monger full of anti- black venom. Asiwapotezee bure muda wenu.
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    Yo Yo JF-Expert Member

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    Hihihihi mkuu umepiga kunako.......Huyo ukimuuliza about India atakuambia hajawahi kufika na atakuambia iam an american au canadian.Muache Ndoto yake imetimia,ndoto ya wahindi ni kufika UK,Canada,USA,na Australia
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    Hofstede JF-Expert Member

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    Mbona mambo kama haya yalikuwepo mengi sana tu katika Campaign? na yalishindwa hapa hakuna jipya ni yale yale. Watu walienda mpaka mahakamani kumpinga wakashidwa. Walianza oooh ni muislam wakashindwa, akashinda primary,zikafuata campaign za kumfanya asipitishwe Denver zikashindwa, zikaja campaign za kumfanya asipigiwe kura zikashindwa na sasa hizi ni campaign za kumfanya asiapishwe january 20 nazo zitashindwa, zitakuja za kumu-impeach nazo zitashindwa, ataongoza taifa na kuleta mabadiliko na 2012 atachaguliwa tena. Hapa hakuna jipya ni yale yale ya mkosaji labla wajaribu kampeni ya kum-ass.... naamini pia nazo ndiyo zitaonesha wazi kabisa hawa akina ukweli ni nothing but racists.
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    Kuntakinte JF-Expert Member

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    Kelele za Mlango......... Hawa jamaa wameanza kabla hata ya kura na Matokeo kwa kuyaongea haya kwenye TV STATION ambayo wameitumia INAITWA THE NAKED TRUTH TV na nia yao kubwa nikuona kwamba jamaa anashindwa uchaguzi na sasa baada ya matokeo ndio wamekuja na huu upuuzi ila sasa ndio inabidi wakubali tuuu hamna jinsi na naomba watambue kwamba "Mwisho wa Ubaya Aibu".
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    Mshiiri JF-Expert Member

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    Obama is a black mamba no one can intoxicate his vernom. Is the next elected President of USA
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    Kinyambiss JF-Expert Member

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    HONKY propaganda.. thats all it is
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    Nasikia Sean Hannity anatafuta co-host since Allan Colmes amesema hatarudi tena kwenye "Hannity and Colmes" at the end of the year. Huyu jamaa anafaa sana kuwa co-host wa Hannity, kwa sababu ana qualifications wanazotafuta. I can see this guy na wale wajinga wajinga wengine ambao ni overweight, hate mongers, anti black, white supremacists, wanaotumia mwamvuli wa GOP ku advance racism kama Jerome Corsi, na yule aliyepigwa na Clinton, Dick Morris na mzee mzima wa Dickipedia..Rush waki advance hate slews na racism.
    Nuf said, American people are freaking tired and sick of the Grand Ol Party and its hypocrisy!
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    Mshiiri JF-Expert Member

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    I watched the youtube clip and it is all blind folded to indicate the source is fabricated so the information itself. Ot is a shame for one who posted such a non sense to detail in here JF. Mod wipe out this sh*t thread
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    Mimi nashangaa kwanini anaruhusiwa kupost hapa pamoja na kuwa kishaonyesha chuki yake dhidi ya watu weusi, Angekuwa Nyani Ngabu angeshafungiwa siku nyingi!!!
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    Kaa la Moto JF-Expert Member

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    Bado na wewe umekosea kwa ku Conceal indentity ya mtu hapa.
    Hata kama amekosea si vizuri kuweka jina lake hapa.
    Mbaya zaidi watu wameonyesha racism ya wazi wazi.
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    Mkuu kwa wanaomfahamu huyu Raj watakwambia nani anaeonesha ubaguzi wa waziwazi? Kabla ya kuanza kumtetea walau ungepitia katika mabandiko yake mengi hata hapa JF huenda ungemuelewa na kufahamu kwa nini watu wanapingana naye?
    Huyu tumetoka nae mbali na huwa anazungukazunguka mara kwa mara mitandao ya wabongo akitukana-tukana ovyo, mara nyingi huwa tunamdharau lakini bado atakuja na pumba nyengine, huwa haridhiki kama hajajibiwa, kwa vile lengo lake ni kumkasirisha mtu yoyote mwenye asili ya kiafrika, ndio ukaona mada zake zote zinalenga huko.
    Mimi huwa nadharau pumba zake ila leo nahisi niliamka vibaya ndio nikamjibu (a bad day in office) Kwa vile naamini ukipigishana kelele na mjinga watu watashindwa kuelewa nani mwerevu
    Kwa kuongeza, Hilo jina Raj Patel sio mimi eti 'nalidhihirisha' ama naliweka hadharani bali ni jina amekuwa analitumia miaka mingi mitandaoni, nadhani tumeelewana mkuu.
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