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Obama a Very Smooth Liar

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    By John R. MacArthur

    June 17, 2009 "The Providence Journal"

    -- It isn't quite fair to call Barack Obama a liar. During the campaign he carefully avoided committing to much of anything important that he might have to take back later. For now, I won’t quibble with The St. Petersburg Times’s Obamameter, which so far has the president keeping 30 promises and breaking only six.
    And yet, broadly speaking, Obama has been lying on a pretty impressive scale. You just have to get past his grandiloquent rhetoric — usually empty of substance — to get a handle on it. I offer a short, incomplete list, which I’m sure others could easily enlarge.

    • Obama portrayed himself as the peace candidate, or at least the anti-war candidate. He is not a peace president, nor is he stopping any wars. True, he promised military escalation in Afghanistan (to blunt John McCain’s accusations of wimpishness), but well-meaning folks believed their new hero would genuinely move to end the occupation of Iraq and seriously try to negotiate with the Taliban. Instead, he has not only increased the number of troops and attacks against the Afghan insurgency, he has also expanded on George Bush’s cross-border raids into Pakistan, which have killed many civilians. The way things are going, Pakistan could become the new Cambodia and Obama the new Nixon.

      In Iraq, Obama has promised to withdraw all the troops . . . unless, which means that we’re not leaving. Whether it’s 50,000 troops remaining at the “invitation” of the so-called government of Iraq, or just enough to man the 14 permanent military bases, or some combination of U.S. military personnel and private mercenaries that exceeds 50,000 soldiers, our army will almost certainly stay in Iraq past the stated deadline of Jan. 1, 2012.
    • Obama said he wanted to reform Washington and “fix” its “broken” system of corrupt lobbying. But Obama is neither a reformer nor a skilled legislative mechanic. Hatched from the Daley Machine in one-party Chicago, Obama wouldn’t be president today if he rocked boats. Witness the appointment of Roland Burris by the corrupt former Gov. Rod Blagojevich to fill Obama’s Senate seat: not a word of public protest from the new administration because Burris is a made man in the Chicago Democratic organization. So what if “Tombstone Roland” can be heard on the U.S. attorney’s wiretaps of Blagojevich, dancing around the delicate question of how to raise money for Blago without appearing to be buying his seat.

      As for pork-barrel politics, Obama named one of its greatest champions, Chicago’s own Rahm Emanuel, as his chief of staff, and the new budget (as well as the “stimulus” package) is loaded with pork. Meanwhile, have you heard anything serious about campaign-finance reform from Obama? Not very likely from someone who refused public financing and still has about $10 million left over from record receipts of $745.7 million. It’s just a detail, I know, but Obama’s naming of former Raytheon lobbyist William Lynn III as deputy secretary of defense seems to be at odds with the president’s alleged crusade against special interests and the “revolving door” between private business and government. He has also “sold” ambassadorships to campaign donors. The biggest plum, London, is slated for Lou Susman, a Chicagoan and former Citigroup executive who bundled $239,000. Paris has been reserved for Charles Rivkin, who raised about $500,000 for Obama.

    • Obama, with his Arabic middle name and his big Cairo speech, wants people to think that he is the Muslim world’s new best friend. Well, the photograph of a cheery Obama with Saudi King Abdullah and a smiling Emanuel with Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal, proves the contrary. The Saudi royal family hates the idea of representative government for ordinary Muslims and is cruelly indifferent to the fate of the Palestinians. A democratic, independent, partly secular Palestine could only make the Saudi oligarchy look bad. Thus, the House of Saud is perfectly happy with the status quo, and so, evidently, is Obama.

      Without Saudi pressure, there will be no resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, since Saudi oil is the only lever that would cause America to press Israel into making real concessions. Indeed, the president doesn’t mean for one minute to force Israel into anything more than symbolic withdrawals of its illegal settlements on the West Bank. Meanwhile, the Saudi elite continues to play its double game, paying protection money to extremist Islam and granting pensions to the relatives of suicide bombers. It’s just politics, say Barack and Rahm, grinning ear-to-ear with their sleazy new friends from Riyahd. Just keep the oil pumping around election time and all will be well.

    • Obama makes like he’s a friend of organized labor, at least he did during the Ohio primary when he needed to beat Hillary Clinton. At the time, he put out a flier headlined “Only Barack Obama fought NAFTA and other bad trade deals” and charged that “a little more than a year ago, Hillary Clinton thought NAFTA was a ‘boon’ to the economy.” In a debate with Clinton on Feb. 26, 2008, he said, “I will make sure that we renegotiate [NAFTA] in the same way that Senator Clinton talked about” and “use the hammer of a potential opt-out as leverage” to get “labor and environmental standards that are enforced.”

      But two months ago, U.S. Trade Rep. Ron Kirk said such a blunt instrument was no longer necessary and that the leaders of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico were now “of the mind that we should be looking for opportunities to strengthen [the North American Free Trade Agreement].” And, of course, there is no discussion at all about renegotiating Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China, a “bad trade deal” that has done even greater harm to American workers and unions than has NAFTA.
    Meanwhile, as I noted in my April 15 column, “Wall Street sharks circle the UAW,” Obama and his banker friend Steven Rattner are liquidating the United Auto Workers even as they liquidate the American auto industry. Robert Reich, Bill Clinton’s pseudo-secretary of labor, said as much. “The only practical purpose I can imagine for the bailout is to slow the decline of GM to create enough time for its workers, suppliers, dealers and communities to adjust to its eventual demise,” he wrote last month in the Financial Times — no surprise, considering that Obama’s chief economic adviser remains Lawrence Summers, a champion of deregulation and “free-market” economics in the Clinton administration and very much the enemy of labor unions.
    Yes, of course it’s nice to have a president who speaks in complete sentences. But that they’re coherent doesn’t make them honest.

    John R. MacArthur, publisher of Harper's Magazine.
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    Limbukeni Senior Member

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    He is just a presdent with full of bipartism agreemets. He can not only do wath he want, he can only do what they want as a team
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    MwanaFalsafa1 JF-Expert Member

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    The American system is full of checks and balances not like our system in Tanzania. There a lot of things in which he needs to run by Congress for approval and it doesn't always support the presidents agendas.

    There is also the status quo of any political system in a country. It is very hard for just one person to come and change the status quo which has been around for a while and practiced by many he has found.

    He can't just pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan even if he wanted to. He has to consider the reputation of America. No president would want to leave a war looking like they lost. Secondly, if they leave those places in what state are they leaving them? After all they are the ones who started the war so they can't just leave the country to rejuvenate on it's own.

    Obama can't be blamed for the relationship that exists between America and the Muslim world. Obama found that relationship already in existence. Him doing PR for now to hopefully buy his administration time to do something about it in practice is not a bad idea.

    All in all the guy has been president for just a few months. How many campaign promise could he have fulfilled by now? Which leader actually fulfills campaign promises by 100%? It's too early to judge Obama as president. He could prove to be the "Great Black Hope" or he could be a disappointment. Only time will tell.
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    ThinkPad JF-Expert Member

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    Sheikh wetu nadhani mpaka hapo umeelewa somo.
    Na huyo mwandishi wako alikurupuka hakuweza kufikiri kabla ya kuandika.
    Kwanza wairaq wanauwana wao kwa wao same to afganstan yeye mmarekani anawalinda tu basi.
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    Natty Bongoman JF-Expert Member

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    Prez Obamaz critics tend to be right wingers who pretends to discern and digest Obamaz promises, even before, dates of fruition. The very same people who cried loudly about economic stimulus package as so so bad, only to be quiet now ... waiting for an opening to pounce on... Politics as usual

    * as a layman, one should practice to get same story, explored by various sides of the political media puppets, and formulate the truth ... u'll be surprised, at first on how much misinfo and bias info gets so much 'holy' coverage...

    * at the moment, one has to prime the ears to realise that Republicans have embarked on media smearing tactics, and 'scare people with half truths' campaigns... so called 'respected editorial journalists' are just as partisan...

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    Kuna watu duniani wana akili za panzi...! Inavyo onekana Iraq na Afghanstan walikuwa wanauwana sana kabla ya uvamizi.
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    kila kiongozi anadanganya.wamedanganya wengi sana yeye sio wakwanza its part of politics enjoy it.

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    Na hatokuwa wa mwisho...!
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    Politicians are the same all over: they promise to build a bridge even where there is no river.-Nikita Khrushchev

    Ila mkuu kuna wanaodanganya na wanafanyia kazi ilani zao za uchaguzi, ukisoma mwanzo wa hiyo habari mwandishi anasema Prez amekeep 30 promises na kuvunja 6, isitoshe amekuwa rais kwa miezi 5 tuu.