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Membe: No to nosy diplomats

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Dingswayo, Oct 31, 2009.

  1. Dingswayo

    Dingswayo JF-Expert Member

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    By Bilham Kimati
    31st October 2009

    The Government yesterday warned foreign diplomats against supporting or forging secret alliance with opposition political parties intended to oust the ruling party ahead of the General Elections next year.

    Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation minister Bernard Membe told the National Assembly in Dodoma that the government will not hesitate to declare such diplomats persona non grata.

    He said the warning was directed at any accredited foreign diplomat confirmed to be in alliance with opposition political parties with the intention to sabotage the ruling CCM.

    The minister said while there was nothing wrong with foreign diplomats giving advice to political parties, any dealings discovered to have some ill motives would not be tolerated.

    Membe was responding to a basic question from Kheri Khatib Ameir (Matembwe, CCM) who alleged that after every five years, when election campaign period approached, some envoys formed unusual and questionable alliances with the opposition parties against the ruling party.

    The legislator had expressed fears that such alliances contravened international laws and jeopardized freedom and security of the country.
    “Diplomatic functions are guided by the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations which outlines procedures, rights, immunities, entitlements and responsibilities of diplomats and other officials accredited in host countries, Membe said.

    He added: They are therefore obliged to abide by the rules of the land, short of which disciplinary measures will be taken against them, irrespective of the volume of economic support received from their countries of origin.”

    The minister said there was no legitimacy for diplomatic missions to collaborate with the opposition to oust the ruling party as that would be interfering in the internal affairs of the host country and gross violation of protocol and international laws.

    “Section 9 of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations 1961 allows host government to take such measures without being obliged to give explanation on repatriation of an envoy or a diplomatic official. The best way to address the problem is to work hard to strengthen the economy,” Membe said.

    Clarifying on the proposed solution to the threat, Membe said some of the donor countries might assume control over local politics believing the financial, technical or any other form of support extended to a host nation would allow them to exercise hegemony through opposition political parties.
    In August this year Zanzibar government issued a statement that the place was safe and security was guaranteed to both visitors and local residents.

    The statement was in response to security alert previously issued by the US following assessment of the ongoing registration of voters in the permanent register in Pemba, the exercise reported to have been marked by sporadic incidents of violence prompting the security warning.

    The issue was given different interpretations as one Zanzibar minister of State described it as interference in the internal affairs of Zanzibar, coupled with painting the wrong picture that the ruling party was instigating the violence.

    In August this year, the European Union, Canada, Japan, Norway and the US expressed concern over what they referred to as “flawed elements” in the voter registration process ready for the General Election next year in Zanzibar, calling for action to redress the situation.

    Their diplomatic missions in Tanzania said in a joint press statement that it was important for both the Union and Zanzibar governments to ensure that the people exercised their right to vote in the 2010 elections.

    The EU heads of mission party to the statement are Belgium, Denmark, European Commission Delegation, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom.

    Membe has repeatedly deplored accusations by foreign diplomatic missions over the Tanzanian government’s handling of various issues, including grand corruption.

    During a meeting with media editors a few months ago and even at the last meeting of the National Assembly held in Dodoma this year, he warned members of diplomatic missions against flouting the Vienna Convention by voicing their discontent in public.

  2. Bluray

    Bluray JF-Expert Member

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    The village idiot exposing his adherence to idiocracy and inability to defend himself on the merit.

    The totalitarian over protesting is indicative of how jumpy CCM is.If you look at what he said you will see that not only is CCM concerned about winning elections and staying in power more than anything else, including alleviating poverty, but also that it is unashamedly so to the extent of making a public statement on the floor of that supposedly august bunge.
  3. Ngambo Ngali

    Ngambo Ngali JF-Expert Member

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    82. Mr. Speaker, during fiscal year 2009/10 the Government
    envisages to collect shillings 9,413,685 million (9.5 trillion), of
    which domestic revenue is shillings 5,096,016 million (5.1 trillion)
    and foreign resource is shillings 3,181,948 million (3.2 trillion).Furthermore, the Government expects to receive shillings 15
    billion as a balance arising from the sale of its 21 percent shares
    in the National Microfinance Bank and shillings 1,082,669 million
    (1.1 trillion) will be borrowed from the domestic market to finance
    the Government budget including rollover of maturing bonds.

    Mtu mzima hatishiwi nyau, wanatulisha hao ona structure ya budget halafu unawatisha wakiondoa mahela utasemaje, tutakwenda kweli .
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    Mwanaume Senior Member

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    Membe has no right to utter his words. Where was he and his party when the mafisadis made alliance with ccm to defraud national resources? Mbona hakuwa mchungu kwa hilo?
  5. PakaJimmy

    PakaJimmy JF-Expert Member

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    From where does this fella get the stinking guts to puke such septic-tank-contents?

    How far is he sure that he is going to win the next elections?

    Kweli agenda za muhimu za nchi hii zimetupwa, coz somebody just decides to talk whatever comes first in his head, as if there is no National Agenda!

    Shame on us!
  6. Monsignor

    Monsignor JF-Expert Member

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    Benard Camillius Membe you are ana Idiot. Yes, idiot I said it. Wakiwasifia mnatoka vyooni kwenu na mataulo kuutangazia umma kuwa wafadhili wametusifia. Mkikwama , tumewaomba wafadhili watusaidie. Wakiwakosoa eti wasituingelie. Ujinga na upumbavu gani unapita huu. Kama hutaki wakuingile stop begging you mother @$#$&. Fahamu kuwa anayemlipa mpiga zumari ndiye huchagua wimbo nyambafu we.
    Halafu huyu shwain ndio anataka kuwa Rahisi wa Nji mbona Tanzania itakuwa kama Zimbabwe.
  7. Bluray

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    Ukishangaa ya Musa kwa Kikwete, utaona ya firauni kwa Membe.
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    Wasegesege Senior Member

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    To hell with their MONEY- Every one has its own destiny and dont sell your destiny with a piece of coin.


    Mbona wao walipoiba kula za Al gore sisi hatukuwaambia "you have do wrong" kwa nini wao ni sisi na sisi siyo wao?"

    Mnatakiwa kufahamu nyie WATANZANIA MNAO UHURU WENU. SIYO KWA SABABU ANAKULIPIA CHUMBA CHA KUPANGA MJINI BASI apate ruhusa hata ya kukuona unapolala na Mke!!!! itz shameeee!!!!. FUNGUENI MACHO NJAA ZITAWAPONZA
  9. Monsignor

    Monsignor JF-Expert Member

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    Membe, karibu tukufahamishe maana yuo have no idea what you are talking about. Hivi umesoma post hapo juu. 40% ya bajeti yako inategemea pesa zao halafu uanaziita coins? Huwezi kuwa mtu huru wakati ni ombaomba. Ikiwa baba yako anakupa ada, malazi na chakula uhuru wako uko wapi? Hiyo miposho mnayojilipa kama siyo pesa zao mngeweza kujilipa? Pamoja na kusaidiwa mmeshindwa kulipa walimu stahiki zao. Kama hamkuwaambia walipoiba kula za Al gore mlitaka waje waambie kuwa mbona hamkutuambia? Ungeeleweka kama ungesema tulipowaambia walituambia tusiwaiingilie. Nyie mawaziri wenye degree feki mnatia aibu
  10. W. J. Malecela

    W. J. Malecela Tanzanite Member

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    - Waziri Membe, kweli unaweza kuukata mkono wa wafadhili unaoifadhili serikali yako? Haya maneno ni hewa tupu na ni misguided, plus childish kama sio foolishness. Wote tunajua kwamba wafadhili wanaisaidia CCM at all the times, sasa kwa nini wasiwasaidie na wapinzani?

    - Kwani ni nani walioishinikiza serikali yetu kuruhusu upinzani? Si hao hao wafadhili, hivi ni mara ngapi tumejionea CCM akishirikiana na vyama vinavyotawala Malawi, Mozambique, Angola, mpaka Namibia wakati wa chaguzi za nchi zao katika kuvisaidia kushinda uchaguzi?

    - Huyu mbunge aliyeuliza hili swali hivi ni kweli jimbo lake halina matatizo kabisa kwamba yuko very comfortable kujali ma-Diplomats, badala ya wananchi wa jimbo lake? Halafu kwa nini isiwe in the contrary kwamba wafadhili wakiisaidia CCM kuwashinda wapinzani, basi Membe awafukuze nchini? Eti kui-subotage CCM, I mean how? yaani tuna viongozi ambao hawajui hata namna ya kuzungumza lugha za kueleweka kwenye Diplomatic Community?

    - Neno sabotage, hulitumii hovyo hovyo mbele ya International Community, ni lazima kuwepo na strong evidence, sio kama za kupigiana simu na Takukuru, Membe anahitaji kuwaomba radhi Diplomats walioko nchini kwa his over reaction, katika kujibu maneno ya mtaani!, unless yeye na huyo mbunge wanao uhsahidi mzito sana over hizo serious allegations za Diplomats na sabotage of CCM.

    - Hivi Membe anapokuwa bungeni si anakuwa na washauri wazoefu na shughuli za kimataifa toka wizarani, vipi wakamruhusu kuongea hizi nonsense ambazo zinaweza kutushusha hadhi mbele ya International Community, mimi nilifikiri baada ya yale ya IOC, Membe sasa amejifunza na kukurupuka kurupuka na maneno hovyo, I mean ingekuwa nchi zenye maendeleo huyu alitakiwa aanze kuandika barua ya kujiuzulu, lakini kwa vile ni Tanzania, ndio kwanza atakuwa anajitayarisha kuwa rais wetu siku moja,

    Only in Tanzania!


  11. Ngambo Ngali

    Ngambo Ngali JF-Expert Member

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    uhuru wa kutembeza bakuli, hakuna uhuru hapo, uhuru wa kugawa ardhi, mnauza viwanda kwa watu wa nje simply because mzungu kasema. Fungua macho uone ndugu yangu hakuna uhuru hapa nusu ya matumizi yako unaomba halafu unasema uko huru.