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    Lake belongs to Malawi, UK letters reveal

    22 September 2012 Nation

    As Malawi and Tanzania grapple with finding solutions to the Lake Malawi boundary wrangle, Downing Street memos on the issue during the Hastings Kamuzu Banda era we have seen build a strong case for Malawi.

    The memos were written in the 1960s when the dispute first surfaced after then Tanzanian president Julius Nyerere wrote London, complaining about Banda's "expansionist" policy that was claiming the whole of Lake Malawi when, according to Tanzania, it was supposed to be shared equally.

    Archived communication we have seen from Number 10 Downing Street-Britain's Prime Minister's office in London-asserts that Tanzania cannot apply international law to claim the lake.

    "The present border between Malawi and Tanzania was first defined and described in Anglo-German Agreement of July 1 1890, which established the limits of the British and German spheres of influence in the area.

    "By that agreement [and the Anglo-Portuguese Agreements of 1890-3], the whole of Lake Nyasa was deemed as belonging to the British sphere of influence and the border where it touched the lake, ran down the eastern shoreline," reads a 1969 internal Downing Street background note clarifying the border issue.

    But Tanzania's position, as outlined recently by president Jakaya Kikwete, is that the Anglo-German Treaty of 1890 that gave Malawi the sole ownership of Lake Malawi was flawed and Tanzania has every reason to demand this to be corrected.

    Kikwete, in his August end-of-the-month address to his country, said the Heligoland Treaty-the agreement between then colonial powers Germany and Britain-denies Tanzanians living on the shores of Lake Malawi "their given right to utilise proximate water and marine resources to earn their daily living".

    Kikwete, according to a report in The Citizen newspaper of Tanzania published on September 2 2012, argued that the colonial treaty set an unfortunate precedent for Tanzanians yet, on the border between Malawi and Mozambique, boundaries were duly readjusted to give citizens of those countries equal rights of access.

    He said the treaty is erroneous because it contravenes international law that requires States to share adjoining water resources.
    The 1969 background note followed Nyerere's letter to British Prime Minister at the time, Harold Wilson, dated October 21 1968, in which he expressed concern that Malawi's president Banda had announced on September 16 1968 that he was putting patrol vessels on Lake Malawi.

    Nyerere had claimed in his letter that the press reported that Britain was supplying three gun boats for that purpose.
    He said Banda had also put a vessel on the lake fitted out with arms for him by the Portuguese.

    An internal letter to a superior by a Downing Street official, a Mr. Waitland, attached to the background note, said:
    "With reference to your letter to David Erighty of October 15, I enclose a redraft of the reply to President Nyerere's letter to the Prime Minister of September 24 about the border dispute between Malawi and Tanzania."
    The letter made two landmark conclusions, the first one being:

    "It is doubtful whether Tanzania's assertion-as expressed in paragraph 4 [four] of Nyerere's letter to the Prime Minister…that the boundary between the two countries is in the centre of Lake Malawi-could be sustained in law, since the principles of international law, to which Nyerere appeals, could hardly be applied, whereas in the Anglo-German Agreement of 1890 about this particular boundary, one of the riparian States concerned has agreed with the other that the lake lay outside its boundaries," reads the letter.

    This position notwithstanding, the memo points out that it might be argued that the definitions of the agreement of 1890 are in terms of "spheres of influence and that these may not necessarily entail definitive territorial boundaries."

    The second conclusion was "that the Tanzanians would have a stronger case for a redefinition of the boundary if they had based this on grounds not of international law, but of equity."

    The communication we have seen further shows that the 1890 Anglo-German Agreement was maintained when the Protectorate of Nyasaland districts was formed in 1891 and also in 1893 when the protectorate was renamed British Central Africa and in 1907 when it was renamed again as the Nyasaland Protectorate.

    According to the communication, when the British role was established in German East Africa and renamed Tanganyika after the treaty of Versailles in 1918, under mandate from the League of Nations, Tanganyika's border on Lake Nyasa on the eastern shoreline continued to be of the former German colony.

    "This continued to be the case when the British mandate over Tanganyika was continued in the form of a United Nations Trusteeship," reads the communication.

    In the documents, Britain also highlighted sources of confusion over lake's boundary.
    "All the above territorial definitions rest on the terms of the Anglo-German Agreement of 1890, since subsequent Orders in Council, etc. have tended to describe the territories as "bounded by German East Africa" [for Malawi] and the "Nyasaland Protectorate" [for Tanzania]," says the communication.

    It adds that further confusion arises out of German and British maps of the area which are inconsistent.
    "The German maps of 1904 and 1913 show the boundary running along the eastern shore of the lake, but one of 1918 shows it as being the median of the lake. The Colonial Office Map Supplement of 1948 gives the border on the shoreline for its map of Nyasaland, and the middle of the lake for its Tanganyikan counterpart," reads the communication.

    The most blatant error, according to the communication, is contained in the map included in the White Paper issued in 1953 on the conference on the Federation of Southern Rhodesia, Northern Rhodesia and Nyasaland, which shows the border running down the median of Lake Nyasa between Nyasaland and Tanganyika.

    The Malawi-Tanzania border resurfaced this year following Capital Hill's licensing of a firm to explore oil on Lake Malawi.
    Tanzania now wants a chunk of the water body, which led to negotiations-first in Tanzania then in Malawi last month. The talks were inconclusive.

    Malawi now wants to take the matter to the UN International Court of Justice after the talks in Mzuzu last month failed to resolve the matter, according to Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation Minister Ephraim Chiume.

    But Chancellor College international law expert, Dr. Mwiza Nkhata, said in an interview soon after the talks that the world court would not automatically decide on the matter because Tanzania did not give compulsory jurisdiction to the court on interpretation of treaties and questions on international law.

    On the Tanzania side, the Mzuzu talks were led by Chiume's counterpart, Bernard Membe. That meeting resolved that they should try diplomacy to end the wrangle and that the Attorney Generals of the two countries should interpret Article 1 (2) (IV) of the Anglo-Germany Treaty.

    The two countries were expected to meet in Tanzania this month for more talks.
    But on Thursday this week, Information Minister Moses Kunkuyu said the meeting the two countries were scheduled to have this September have not yet taken place.

    Kunkuyu said there is no latest development on the mater.
    He supported the memo's content, saying it has been Capital Hill's conviction that the whole lake belongs to Malawi.
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    Waambie Wa Malawi wenzako kuwa hamtafanikiwa kwa hili!
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    Tumeshatoa ramani mpya

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    Govt warns over existence of fake map of Tanzania

    By Correspondent 22nd September 2012

    Prof. Anna Tibaijuka

    The Ministry of Lands, Housing and Human Settlements Development has warned over the existence of several editions of fake map of Tanzania used by various local and international entities for different purposes.

    Speaking to reporters in Dar es Salaam yesterday the Director of Survey and Mapping Dr Selassie Mayunga said government officials have teamed up with the police to launch investigation leading to the arrest of all those involved in the production of such fake maps.

    Mayunga said the fake map shows misleading features especially Tanzania boarders, adding that it is prepared by industries and companies within and outside Tanzania.

    "There is an increase of fake production of map of Tanzania which is later used in public institutions for various advertisements and publications of these institutions," he added

    The director warned that with effect from yesterday no one is allowed to publish, distribute or use the map of Tanzania in any publication without the permission from the ministry.

    He said the ministry will work with the police in ensuring that distribution of all editions of the fake map stops while continuing investigations to identify the source of the production and distribution of the editions.

    The director noted that the ministry has prepared a new map of Tanzania, calling on all municipal councils to make sure that no fake map of Tanzania.

    The original map of the country which is issued by the Ministry has the copyright of the country at the bottom side. According to the director the fake map has no such copyright.

    The director further noted that the increasing land conflicts are due to bad land mapping, cautioning officials found causing land conflicts by ignoring the procedure would be terminated from their jobs as a punishment.

    He expressed concern that although map experts know the law and steps governing land mapping they intentionally disregard them, which in the end results in land conflicts observed in various parts of the county.

    For that reason, Mayunga said, every land mapping officer will now be accountable for land conflicts that will arise following their action. The step was being taken to ensure an end land conflicts in Tanzania, he added.

    Yesterday the Ministry of Lands held a meeting in Dar es Salaam under the Survey and Mapping Director, attended by survey and map experts, to discuss various challenges in their field and how to tackle them.

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    The then, for-life President of Malawi, the Late Ngwazi Dr. Hastings Kamuzu Banda was No. 01 puppet for the western world and the apartheid government of South Africa.

    Kamuzu was No. 1 killer of his own people in favour of Britain and the western. So, what the best "memo" than this would you expect from 10 Downing to the deadly dictator during that time? Rubbish!
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    Lazima tuwapige washike adabu.... mm naanza na wamalawi wa Airport DIA, wanaajiriwa warudi kwao fasta...
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    Katika hili saga sina shaka hata kidogo kwamba Tanzania tunayo portion yetu katika ziwa nyasa. Hizi ngonjera za wamalawi ni za kujipa matumaini ya muda mfupi tu.
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    Good, Wamalawi waache mchezo mchafu, watumie busara, wanategemea watanzania wenzetu walio mpakani wataishi vipi???? Hawa jamaaa ni kama wauwaji, kwa mfano lake victoria impo Tz lakini ndiyo uhai wa Egypt kwa hiyo nasi tuseme hamna Egypt kuwa na control ya maji yetu kwakua ziwa ni mali yetu???? hawana nia njema unless wakubali kuwa tunamiliki 50 % ya ziwa otherswise watakua maadui zetu mpaka kwa mungu aliewaumba na kutuumba sisi.
    Mungu ibariki Tanzania na raia zake.
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    Wallahi, kama ni lazima, ni heri tuwape hata mkoa mzima kuliko portion yetu ya lile Ziwa. Dah, haiingii akilini hata chembe. Ni serikali ya CCM tu inatuangusha, ikija serikali makini, Lake Nyasa is one of the best tourist attractions in the world; ni eneo linaloweza kubadili kabisa sura ya nchi yetu kiuchumi, kiteknolojia, na kila kitu. Ni huzuni kuyakosa yale maji.
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    Vita haiepukiki, ama ziwa liparalize tu lisiwe la yeyote, na mahakamani hatuendi, labdi mahakama ya Tanzania
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    Hawa jamaa wanataka vita wala hakuna kitu Uk ndio wanafanya utafiti wa mafuta na ndio wanatoa agreement ya 1960's tuweni makini na hawa vibaraka
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    Wapinzani nfo wanachochea ziwa linaki Tamganyika lakini sisi hatuna shida walichukua tu
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    Hao jamaa wanadhani ni hisani ya mwanadamu sisi kutumia hilo ziwa. Hivi huwa wanajiuliza kabla ya ukoloni hilo ziwa lilikuwa linamilikiwa na nani?
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    hilo ziwa na mali ya watu walioishi kulizunguka muda wote yaani ilikuwa kama habitat yao na uhai wao ulilitegemea haliwezi kuwa la wamalawi pekee
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    et UK reveals. si ndo anahitaji mafuta huyo?
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    Huwa naona aibu sana kila waafrika wanapokuwa na issue zao, halafu kitu cha kwanza kukimbilia Europe for solutions!!! Cant we solve our damn problems ourselves? Hata kupimiana niguu ya mipaka tunamtafuta mwimgereza!!!
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    Hawa Wamalawi sijui wamesome shule gani, wakati toka enzi za mkoloni huu mpaka ulikuwa na matatizo, kama ilivyoandikwa hapo kwenye habari yao, '' It adds that further confusion arises out of German and British maps of the area which are inconsistent.
    "The German maps of 1904 and 1913 show the boundary running along the eastern shore of the lake, but one of 1918 shows it as being the median of the lake. The Colonial Office Map Supplement of 1948 gives the border on the shoreline for its map of Nyasaland, and the middle of the lake for its Tanganyikan counterpart," reads the communication''

    Kwa maana hiyo hata hiyo habari wanayoitukuza sasa haina mashiko1