Kenyans living abroad sent home more money last year than the rest of the East Africa Diaspora combined

[KENPAULITE]

Yes, but why was colonial Kenya indulged with those en mass schorships relative to other countries in the region, they just liked Tom Mboya's pinstripes?

World powers have favorites and proxies. Socialist Tanzania was the darling of the Scandinavians in the seventies and eighties, and so is Egypt to the US to this day. As the biggest recipient of American foreign aid in Africa, do you think Egypt is the best well-behaved democracy in Africa? Not by a long shot, but the powers choose who to lavish with love and support as informed by their own strategic calculus. Kenya has profited massively from her sweet welfare status quo with the West.

That is true, but thats what relationships are all about to better each other, what has your socialist friends helped you with? i believe you align yourself with where you get value.

 

[pingli-nywee]

Yes, but why was colonial Kenya indulged with those en mass schorships. World powers have favorites and proxies. Socialist Tanzania was the darling of the Scandinavians in the seventies. As the biggest recipient of American foreign aid in Africa, do you think Egypt is the best well-behaved democracy in Africa? Kenya has profited massively from her sweet welfare status quo with the West.

Its the wise decisions that Kenya made immediately after independence, while your leaders dallied with foreign set to fail ideologies like ujamaa. Have you heard about the British gulag that happened during the Mau Mau war? Kenya was the only country, apart from India, that the British empire used war planes to drop numerous bombs on, to quiet the bloddy resistance and fight for independence. Those who were favoured by the colonialist recieved their independence on a silver platter in boardrooms like Tanzania. Not by gun powder and bombs in forest hideouts.

 

[Tindikali]

That is true, but thats what relationships are all about to better each other, what has your socialist friends helped you with? i believe you align yourself with where you get value.

bilateral and regional relations don't always benefit all sides, that's why the UK is crashing out of EU, Tanzania is repealing the godawful EAC customs union chicanery, and burn Kenyan chicken imports, and vomit out Kenyan telecom CEOs rammed down our throats by shredding their Visa applications...

Kenyans have the numbers abroad, we don't, so Tanzania will have to find other ways and means to make due with; sitting on our laurels waiting and bragging about diaspora remittances is not one of them.

 

[Tindikali]

Its the wise decisions that Kenya made immediately after independence, while your leaders dallied with foreign set to fail ideologies like ujamaa. Have you heard about the British gulag that happened during the Mau Mau war? Kenya was the only country, apart from India, that the British empire used war planes to drop numerous bombs on, to quiet the bloddy resistance and fight for independence. Those who were favoured by the colonialist recieved their independence on a silver platter in boardrooms like Tanzania. Not by gun powder and bombs in forest hideouts.

Tanzania was a depleted protectorate, Kenya was a lucrative colony, of course your colonialists would push back against independence more violently.

And Kenya continued for decades to be a sweet deal plantation for the foreigners, while Tanzania's Ujamaa that you so lampooned spared us from the grotesque land appropriation by minority aristocrats. And tribalism. And classicism. And cronyism that created the dreadfully rapacious Kenyatta dynasty that owns a third of the real estate in the country.

So, your romance with the West came with an exorbitant social economic price tag.

 

[pingli-nywee]

Tanzania was a depleted protectorate, Kenya was a lucrative colony, of course your colonialists would push back against independence more violently.

And Kenya continued for decades to be a sweet deal plantation for the foreigners, while Tanzania's Ujamaa that you so lampooned spared us from the grotesque land appropriation by minority aristocrats. And tribalism. And classicism. And cronyism that created the dreadfully rapacious Kenyatta dynasty that owns a third of the real estate in the country.

So, your romance with the West came with an exorbitant social economic price tag.

Really? A depleted protectorate? How depleted is Tanzania resource wise now and even then? Socialist ujamaa policies is why Tanzania is on the list of the 20 most poorest nations on earth. The political class that engineered the adoption of ujamaa is still in play 50 years later! The west have been plundering your minerals and natural resources since independence.

 

[kennedy0000]

To start with, there are more Kenyans allowed to live overseas than are other east Africans.

Almost as much Kenyans visit South Africa, as Tanzanians.
Yet South Africa is visa-free for Tanzanians, while Kenyans have a grueling visa application process that often leads to denials.

What's your excuse?
Nothing about 'being' allowed to live overseas. It's just that Tanzanians are laid back, with no desire to explore, invent, do business or basically do anything.

As a matter of fact, the US visa denial rate is higher for Kenyans than for Tanzania, meaning a Tanzanian is more likely to be allowed to visit the US than a Kenyan.

Kenya refusal rate - 26.6%
Tanzania refusal rate - 23.05%

 

[Nicxie]

Tanzania was a depleted protectorate, Kenya was a lucrative colony, of course your colonialists would push back against independence more violently.

And Kenya continued for decades to be a sweet deal plantation for the foreigners, while Tanzania's Ujamaa that you so lampooned spared us from the grotesque land appropriation by minority aristocrats. And tribalism. And classicism. And cronyism that created the dreadfully rapacious Kenyatta dynasty that owns a third of the real estate in the country.

So, your romance with the West came with an exorbitant social economic price tag.

How "depleted" was Tanzania back then and even now when we know very well that your country is rich resource-wise than your neighbours Kenya? Was that not a good basis why colonialists could have laid more ground on your country than Kenya? The colonists knew very well that you had a backward system in place called ujamaa and so it didn't bother so much about Tanzania as it did with Kenya. If you praise ujamaa so much as you have done above, why has it not helped your country to break free from the jaws of LDC? What has ujamaa not helped your country have a bigger economy than the "darling of the west", Kenya that is plagued by tribalism, classicism and all that? And using figures that you can't substantiate just shows how much hate you have for Kenya (am referring to where you said Kenyatta owns a third of Kenya's real estate)

 

[Nicxie]

bilateral and regional relations don't always benefit all sides, that's why the UK is crashing out of EU, Tanzania is repealing the godawful EAC customs union chicanery, and burn Kenyan chicken imports, and vomit out Kenyan telecom CEOs rammed down our throats by shredding their Visa applications...

Kenyans have the numbers abroad, we don't, so Tanzania will have to find other ways and means to make due with; sitting on our laurels waiting and bragging about diaspora remittances is not one of them.

It's not about bragging brother. You may not agree with anything Kenyan but let's not pretend that overseas remittances have zero impact on the economy. That money is injected in the economy. Am talking about real estate, manufacturing and all sectors of the economy. At the end of the day, it is something that benefits us as a country. Anyway, continue sitting back as you aptly put it

 

[Nicxie]

then why is Kenya nursing a relationship which Tanzania does not give a rat's ass about?

Uhuru Kenyatta flew in in a flash to immediately apologize for his legislators' bellicose views on Tanzania-Kenya relations, why do the Kenyan's need Tanzania so bad if they are such better and mightier?

We all know Uhuru flew in following JPM's invitation so hizi story za Alikuja to apologize unajua mahali umezitoa. And by the way, what's wrong even if he came to apologize? Tanzania has been one of Kenya's biggest trading partners (though we know it has been in favour to Kenya) so what's wrong even if he came to secure a market? Kenya has been exporting more to Tanzania than it imports from Tanzania and that is not a secret

 

[Mwananchi]

Kenyans living abroad sent home more money last year than the rest of the East Africa Diaspora combined, World Bank data shows, revealing the difference in the quality of earnings of the different nationalities.
Kenya’s Diaspora remittances in 2018 stood at Sh280 billion, eclipsing the Sh242 billion sent to the rest of Eastern Africa — comprising Uganda, Tanzania, Rwanda, Burundi, South Sudan and Ethiopia.
A World Bank unit known as the Global Knowledge Partnership on Migration and Development prepared the report released in April 2019.
The year-on-year growth in Kenyan remittances between 2017 and 2018 was 39 percent. In the first five months of 2019, remittances stood at Sh118.9 billion, a 3.8 per cent increase on the same period in 2018.
The growth this year has, however, been much slower than that of last year, when in the first five months of 2018 the remittances had gone up by 51.8 percent to Sh114.6 billion compared to the same period in 2017.
“Remittances to sub-Saharan Africa were estimated to grow by 9.6 percent from $42 billion in 2017 to $46 billion in 2018. Projections indicate that remittances to the region will keep increasing but at a lower rate, to $48 billion by 2019 and to $51 billion by 2020,” said the World Bank in the report.
“The upward trend observed since 2016 is explained by strong economic conditions in the high-income economies where many sub-Saharan African migrants earn their income.”
The remittances in Kenya have risen to become the biggest source of foreign exchange, ahead of tourism, tea, coffee and horticulture exports.
They have played a big role in the stability of the shilling in the past three years when peer currencies in the region have to various degrees depreciated against the US dollar.
North America typically accounts for the bulk of Kenyan remittances, reaching about 45 percent on average, followed by Europe at about 23 percent while the rest of the world accounts for about 32 percent.
There are more than three millions Kenyans living abroad, many of whom have attained tertiary education and are working in the formal sector jobs.
The US is a popular destination for Kenyans looking for greener pastures and further education, with the latter mostly remaining in the destination countries for work after graduation.
In recent years, however, the Middle East and China are also emerging as a choice destination for those looking for external work opportunities, in line with the rapid economic growth in these regions.
It also helps if a country has a well-developed banking sector, which opens up formal channels of remitting money back home and reduces the cost of doing so.
The Central Bank of Kenya has, for instance, identified the ease of sending money back home as a major factor in the sharp growth of Kenyan remittances.
Local banks have entered partnerships with remittance service providers that allow them to handle larger volumes of inflows.
The expansion of the popular M-Pesa service beyond Kenya’s borders is also helping, with direct cash transfers on mobile making it easier for the millions who actively use mobile money to receive money instantly from relative abroad.
One of the biggest impediments to inward African remittances has over the years been identified as cost, partly attributable to the lower than global average penetration of formal banking in the continent.
The World Bank report shows that remittances to sub-Saharan Africa remain the most expensive across the different regions of the world.
“The cost was the lowest in South Asia, at five percent, while sub-Saharan Africa continued to have the highest average cost, at 9.3 percent.
“Remittance costs across many African corridors and small islands in the Pacific remain above 10 percent,” said the World Bank in the report.
Ease of movement of capital also helps. Countries that do not restrict the movement of hard currency are, therefore, likelier to attract foreign investment flows, which encourage the setting up of more robust support infrastructure for remitting money.
Remittances as a measure of gross domestic product in 2018 are therefore higher in countries such as Kenya (three percent), Uganda (4.5 percent) and Rwanda (2.4 percent) in the region, while remaining lower in Ethiopia (0.5 percent) and Tanzania (0.8 percent).
Looking at the wide continent, Kenya was fifth last year in terms of volume of money remitted.
Egypt and Nigeria, which are two of Africa’s most populous countries and boast of a large diaspora, led the continent with inflows of Sh2.98 trillion ($28.9 billion) and Sh2.5 trillion ($24.3 billion) respectively last year.
Morocco and Ghana saw remittances of Sh760 billion (7.38 billion) and Sh391.4 billion ($3.8 billion) respectively to also come in ahead of Kenya on the list.
In East Africa, remittances stood at Sh128.4 billion for Uganda, Sh44.3 billion for Tanzania, and Sh42.4 billion in Ethiopia. Rwanda and Burundi had remittances worth Sh23.7 billion and Sh3.7 billion respectively, while there was no data available for South Sudan and Somalia for 2018 in the World Bank report.

NEWS INDEPTH: Kenya diaspora remittances top in East Africa

Kenyans abroad sent back home Sh280bn in 2018, eclipsing Sh242bn repatriated to other states.

www.businessdailyafrica.com

Of course lazima remittance iwe kubwa kwa sababu wenzetu wanasaidiana kwa kila namna. Nianzie kwenye UN, Nairobi kuwa HQ ya UNON imewasaidia watu wengi kupanuka na kuona mbali kwenye mashirika haya ya UN na Mashirika ya Kimataifa. Wamesambaa kweli. na mmoja akipata kazi anavuta watu rundo siyo sisi Watanzania wakipata kazi wanajisahau na hawataki kuvuta Watanzania wenzao, mfano ukiuliza Maiga, Rose Migiro, Tibaijuka, Salhina Mkumba, Joyce Msuya wamechukua wangapi, hakuna kitu.
Pili sera zetu za kukataa dual citizenship ni kikwazo kwa watu wetu kupata kazi nje lakini wezetu wameruhusu na hiyo imewafanya Wakenya kujipatia kazi nyingi wakiwa na raia mbili.
Tatu sera elimu yetu kukazania kiswahili zimeturudisha nyuma katika kupata kazi nje ya nchi.
tatu uvivu wa kuchapa kazi, Watanzania tumezoea uvuvi hatuko aggressive katika kazi na biashara na sasa unaona hata burera de Change wamefungia kwa hiyo watu wakija na dola hataki matatizo ya bure wanarudi nazo

 

[Gamal Sankara]

I might not agree with you Tindikali on alot of things but i like the way you think. Pamoja.