Kenya to export dairy products to Zambia

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Wakati Kenya wanakwenda Mbele Tanzania yashindwa kuendeleza Mazao ya Maziwa na Kupeleka Bidha Hizo Zambia. Na Tz ndio wana ardhi nyingi iliyo Bora, wana Pakana Na Zambia etc etc


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Brookside Dairy General Manager for Milk Procurement Mr. John Gethi (right) show the visiting Zambia Foreign Affairs Deputy Minister Prof. Fashion Phiri (right) and his delegation the Brookside Dairy production line in Ruiru when the Zambian delegation toured the plant. The Zambians invited Brookside Dairy to invest in their country. PHOTO/ CORRESPONDENT

By BENJAMIN MUINDIPosted Sunday, March 29 2009 at 17:39
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Trade to improve living standards in both countries, say top officials

Kenya will start exporting dairy products to Zambia, top officials of both states have said.

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Currently, the country earns over Sh10 billion in revenue from export of milk and its products.
This will be among other benefits that the country stands to gain after a memorandum of understanding was signed at the close of the seventh joint commission forum last week.

The two-day forum discussed on ways to enhance relations in agriculture and transport and communication between the two states.

Zambian deputy foreign affairs minister Prof Fashion Phiri said this move was for the mutual benefit of the countries.
The Zambian market will also be relaxed to absorb goods from Kenya.
“The officials will be touring our local dairy industries to establish that we have met the right standards,” Kenya’s Foreign Affairs assistant minister Richard Onyonka said.

The relationship between the two countries had gone under when resolutions of a 2004 joint commission forum were not implemented as planned.

“This was due to a lack of a clear follow-up system, leading to a disconnect in the relationship,” said Mr Onyonka.

But trade between them has grown since then. “Kenya’s exports to Zambia increased by 60 per cent while Zambia’s grew by 298 per cent between then and 2007,” he said.

Both states are members of the Common Markets for East and Central African (Comesa) countries, meaning the cost of doing business between them will be lowered. This will be enabled by the Free Trade Area of the member states of Comesa.

“We expect this relationship to improve the living standards of the people in our countries,” said Prof Phiri.

According to officials, the two countries can also partner in learning the best practices of each other in meteorology, climate change, crop forecast and mineral development.

The Kenya-Zambia joint permanent commission was established in 1982, and is meant to better the lives of the people of the countries through co-operation in trade and other activities.

Beneficial exchanges have been undertaken in Agriculture and livestock development as well. The two countries have also continued to exchange military students in their learning institutions
 
Aloo, huu ni ukatuni ulioje. Kenaya watu wanakufa na njaa
pembe zote za nchi a'fu unataka kuniambia eti watapeleka
'dairy products' Zambia. Talk of misplaced priorities ama
wanatudanganya tu.
 
read and learn, or read and weep, its your choice. Take it as a joke but progress will be seen in the long run, I thought you were perfect country, (peace, minerals and all) you should have sealed that deal, you will get shocked when you will be overtaken by small economies like Rwanda. Let your media and politicians lie to you, eventually you will come out of your socialistic ideologies, then and only then you shall prosper.
 
read and learn, or read and weep, its your choice. Take it as a joke but progress will be seen in the long run, I thought you were perfect country, (peace, minerals and all) you should have sealed that deal, you will get shocked when you will be overtaken by small economies like Rwanda. Let your media and politicians lie to you, eventually you will come out of your socialistic ideologies, then and only then you shall prosper.

???

Your poor arguments do not cease to amaze me.

Mwalimu Ab-T anasema some kenyans mnauza maziwa Zambia wakati the common people are suffering from malnutrition and hunger. I thought this is a fact. Kama umeshindwa ku-refute hii hoja, fine enough but don't drag Tz into this since it doesn't appear in the equation.

Being rhetoric isn't gonna change the facts.
 
???

Your poor arguments do not cease to amaze me.

Mwalimu Ab-T anasema some kenyans mnauza maziwa Zambia wakati the common people are suffering from malnutrition and hunger. I thought this is a fact. Kama umeshindwa ku-refute hii hoja, fine enough but don't drag Tz into this since it doesn't appear in the equation.

Being rhetoric isn't gonna change the facts.

We export what we have to import what we dont have.Can you live on a diet of milk day in day out. I dont think so, neither can some of us.
 
We export what we have to import what we dont have.Can you live on a diet of milk day in day out. I dont think so, neither can some of us.

...Tizama swali hilo jamani.Watu wanaishi njaa day in day out, unadhani
watajali kula diet milk?Maskini hachagui jamani.Acheni utani.
 
???

Your poor arguments do not cease to amaze me.

Mwalimu Ab-T anasema some kenyans mnauza maziwa Zambia wakati the common people are suffering from malnutrition and hunger. I thought this is a fact. Kama umeshindwa ku-refute hii hoja, fine enough but don't drag Tz into this since it doesn't appear in the equation.

Being rhetoric isn't gonna change the facts.
What Ab is insinuating is that 'SOME' Kenyans are selling milk while other Kenyans are starving, he is potraying that its an under the table type of deal. He doesnt even know whether the export will start immediately or after some time...
Ndio Wakenya wana ukame, lakini has anyone approached your goverment to ask for releif food??, Has the famine driven Kenyans to come to your country in search of food? Has the drought affected you in any way... guess not, so stop mentioning it in all your posts... ama waskia vibaya coz mwataka kujiunga na South and things aint going the way yo prezz wants?? tehehe.. mtabaki hapa tu EAC, tuwapatie the shorter side of the stick, Kenyatta etal did it na our current leaders will stil do it..
 
...Tizama swali hilo jamani.Watu wanaishi njaa day in day out, unadhani
watajali kula diet milk?Maskini hachagui jamani.Acheni utani.

And thats the Gospel according to who? You ?

And by the way some of the milk we will be exporting comes from Arusha. ever heard of brookside Dairy it purchases raw milk in Arusha transports it to Nairobi and then some Value adds which means jobs creation and Voila its exported to the Comesa Region and Saudi Arabia written product of Kenya. you with your second grade arguments are left whinning how you have lots of land and stuff blah blah.....but you dont reap anything from it even with your so called mineral wealth very little trickles to the Mwananchi or even the government.Who is the sucker now???
 
Ndio Wakenya wana ukame,

I'm glad that, finally, you admitted that your poor country is in trouble.



lakini has anyone approached your goverment to ask for releif food??,

Irrelevant question.

I mentioned earlier that Tz has nothing to do with your problems, and unfortunately you chose not to get that into your big head.

Has the famine driven Kenyans to come to your country in search of food? Has the drought affected you in any way... guess not, so stop mentioning it in all your posts... ama waskia vibaya coz mwataka kujiunga na South and things aint going the way yo prezz wants?? tehehe.. mtabaki hapa tu EAC, tuwapatie the shorter side of the stick, Kenyatta etal did it na our current leaders will stil do it..

Naona juisi ya pilipili inakuingia muzee. Yaani unaingia kwa forum ya watu, halafu unataka kuwapangia nini cha kuongelea na nini cha kufanya? Naona ishu ya Tz kukataa upuuzi wenu wa Fed bado inakuuma kinyama sio..

It is hard, but the earlier you swallow it the better.
 
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And thats the Gospel according to who? You ?

And by the way some of the milk we will be exporting comes from Arusha. ever heard of brookside Dairy it purchases raw milk in Arusha transports it to Nairobi and then some Value adds which means jobs creation and Voila its exported to the Comesa Region and Saudi Arabia written product of Kenya. you with your second grade arguments are left whinning how you have lots of land and stuff blah blah.....but you dont reap anything from it even with your so called mineral wealth very little trickles to the Mwananchi or even the government.Who is the sucker now???

So this is the first class argument? Your fellow Kenyan has agreed at last, that your poor country is facing famine and malnutrition, and that is the basis of this discussion.

Shifting the attention of what Tz do's or do n't do's, is irrelevant and pathetic. If you have new topic about Tz you can start a new thread on it.
 
What Ab is insinuating is that 'SOME' Kenyans are selling milk while other Kenyans are starving, he is potraying that its an under the table type of deal. He doesnt even know whether the export will start immediately or after some time...
Ndio Wakenya wana ukame, lakini has anyone approached your goverment to ask for releif food??, Has the famine driven Kenyans to come to your country in search of food? Has the drought affected you in any way... guess not, so stop mentioning it in all your posts... ama waskia vibaya coz mwataka kujiunga na South and things aint going the way yo prezz wants?? tehehe.. mtabaki hapa tu EAC, tuwapatie the shorter side of the stick, Kenyatta etal did it na our current leaders will stil do it..

If it never occurred to your mind that Kenya would ask for relief food from Tanzania, the following article would remind you of such cases:

Kenya plans to import maize from Tanzania

By Hassan Mghenyi

Kenya plans to import maize from Tanzania and Uganda to bridge its food shortfall facing 10 million people, President Mwai Kibaki said.

However, since the demand for maize is high in East Africa, Kenya will have to source maize from outside the region. The Eastern Africa Grain Council has reported that Zambia, Malawi and Kenya are short of food.

They expect food supplies from Tanzania to cushion the deficit while Sudan, Rwanda, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Kenya will rely on Uganda.

Kenya's food production fell last year following post-election violence. Farmers fled during the crisis. Together with an unavailability of inputs, crop output fell significantly.

The country produced about 2.43 million tonnes against the national consumption of 3.15 million tonnes last production season.

Normally, Kenya imports 250,000 tonnes (2.7 million 90-kilo bags) from Uganda and Tanzania during one production year, but the figure is projected to be lower this year due to the demand for maize in Eastern, Central and Southern Africa is high.

Regional Agricultural Trade Intelligence Network statistics show that Kenya has imported about 110,000 tonnes of maize (1.2 million 90-kilo bags) from both Uganda and Tanzania since July 2008.

Last year, it imported 81,730 tonnes of maize, 4,045 of beans and 12,073 tonnes of rice compared with 121,153 tonnes of maize, 8,401 tonnes of beans and 14,110 tonnes of rice in 2007.

It imported 60,430 tonnes of maize, 122,152 tonnes of beans from Uganda, last year. It imported 98,029 tonnes of maize and 65,134 tonnes of beans the previous year. It is projected that not more than 50,000 tonnes of maize will be imported between January and June 2009.

As a short-term measure, the Government has approved the importation of 900,000 tonnes (10 million 90-kilo bags) of grain duty free. Both the Government and the private sector would do this. It will import seven million bags for its strategic grain reserves while millers and traders will import three million bags.

The country has banned grain and flour exports. Two months ago, due to the rising price of maize flour, the Government announced that it would make maize flour available at a subsidised price.

Under the arrangement, the millers would source subsidised maize grain for processing from the National Cereals and Produce Board (NCPB). NCPB would buy maize directly from the farmers at Ksh1,950 a bag ($277 a tonne) and resell it to the millers at Ksh1,750 a bag ($250 per tonne).

Prices of maize stood at an average of $307 a tonne in Dar es Salaam, $309 in Nairobi, $368 in Kigali, $245 in Kampala and $490 in Lilongwe last week against $299, $303, $381, $244 and $543, respectively the previous week.

A tonne of maize was sold for $311 in Dar es Salaam at the end of last week. Tanzania also banned cereals exports amid fears of a food shortage. But in the past few months, this paper reported that food smuggling out of Tanzania to Kenya was continuing.

Source: The citizen
 
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So this is the first class argument? Your fellow Kenyan has agreed at last, that your poor country is facing famine and malnutrition, and that is the basis of this discussion.

Shifting the attention of what Tz do's or do n't do's, is irrelevant and pathetic. If you have new topic about Tz you can start a new thread on it.

We dont see the need of starting threads to deface other people countries, I think I have better things to do than try and show an illiterate dude that he is being duped by the media and his goverment, who potray that his country is perfect.

Its a fact that there is famine in our country, but as I usually say, we are learning from our mistakes, and we will come out of our problems much stronger and with measures to keep hunger and famine outside our borders.

you usually make me laugh when you say ati Kenya ni masikini, I guess its a case of the pot calling the kettle black. we are poor lakini sio kama nyinyi, at least we are making initiatives to unshackle the chains of poverty amongst us, unlike you my Tanzanian brothers who are still burying your head in the sand. ITS SO BAD TO BE IN DENIAL, BECAUSE ONE NEVER CHANGES..your country is in denial- thanks to your boot licking media, and your politicians.
 
read and learn, or read and weep, its your choice. Take it as a joke but progress will be seen in the long run, I thought you were perfect country, (peace, minerals and all) you should have sealed that deal, you will get shocked when you will be overtaken by small economies like Rwanda. Let your media and politicians lie to you, eventually you will come out of your socialistic ideologies, then and only then you shall prosper.



People are starving,and you are exporting the food.
You guys are crazy,exporting food? Buying weapons,while your brothers are starving? So therse are your priorities to your people?

Some people needs healing therapy.
For your information,Tanzania's economy is growing fast my friend.You used to relyingn on tourism for your progress,but this time with credit crunch you are done my friend.Wait and see,your economy's actual growth rate will be not more than 4%.

Look at Tanzanian's Economy,we are flyng with colours.it's bad news for you bunch of haters.
 
People are starving,and you are exporting the food.
You guys are crazy,exporting food? Buying weapons,while your brothers are starving? So therse are your priorities to your people?

Some people needs healing therapy.
For your information,Tanzania's economy is growing fast my friend.You used to relyingn on tourism for your progress,but this time with credit crunch you are done my friend.Wait and see,your economy's actual growth rate will be not more than 4%.

Look at Tanzanian's Economy,we are flyng with colours.it's bad news for you bunch of haters.

No..Its not food we are exporting its milk!!!
What do you mean healing therapy what is so special with that?
Which is this economy you keep saying is growing while its a known fact Tanzania as a country lives beyond its means.Your current national budget is donor funded 55% to be precise you are only able to make a mere 45%.
Your president is always making begging trips abroad.debts have been canceled but you somehow cant figure out things.how hard is that i bet even a nursery school kid can be able to balance the sums of living within means.

By the way we still rely on tourism and we will still do. what we cant do is to wait and see we preempt issues and and anticipate.

NB You must be a very unique breed of people who fly with colors instead of planes and wings like birds.I am having a hard time picturing a Tanzanian landing at JKIA with a Blue, or red or yellow...very funny.
 
August naona unaanza kifilisika kimawazo. Usijiachie ukaanza ku-play into manyangau's mind games. ona sasa wanaanza kututukana. what is so special with a company owned by a kikuyu mafia exporting to Zambia??? Do you know how many TZ companies export various products to neighbouring countries esp Burundi, Rwanda, RDC, Zambia yenyewe. I will give you the fugures later, it is in terms of billions.

Kenyans are so bitter b'se Tanzania refuses to open its borders so that they could find a safe, stable, peaceful, haven to solve their problems of unemployment, drought cum famine, landlessness, deep social instability cum violence-Nairobi is a small hell, now the police just shoot robbers, no need to send them to court- tribalism etc. If Tanzania had opened borders almsot all of them would have thronged to TZ during the Dec 07 violence. How many Kenyans migrate to Somalia or Ethiopia or Sudan? Their only solution is TZ and they are disturbed by the fact that TZ seems to have more options (more stable neighbours in which to cooperate with eg Mozambique, Malawi, Zambia etc).

IN economics stronger economies in various regions, such as US in America, Germany in Europe, Japan etc attract employment from neighbours because of more extensive and complex industrial production. Sometimes they even outsource. But it seems in EAC it is the opposite of that, it is the self-claimed economic power house (talk of an economic powerhouse in subsaharan Africa, which has more than half the population living in abject poverty, teh teh) which export jobs to neighbouring countries. What went wrong?
 
If it never occurred to your mind that Kenya would ask for relief food from Tanzania, the following article would remind you of such cases:

Kenya plans to import maize from Tanzania

By Hassan Mghenyi

Kenya plans to import maize from Tanzania and Uganda to bridge its food shortfall facing 10 million people, President Mwai Kibaki said.

However, since the demand for maize is high in East Africa, Kenya will have to source maize from outside the region. The Eastern Africa Grain Council has reported that Zambia, Malawi and Kenya are short of food.

They expect food supplies from Tanzania to cushion the deficit while Sudan, Rwanda, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Kenya will rely on Uganda.

Kenya's food production fell last year following post-election violence. Farmers fled during the crisis. Together with an unavailability of inputs, crop output fell significantly.

The country produced about 2.43 million tonnes against the national consumption of 3.15 million tonnes last production season.

Normally, Kenya imports 250,000 tonnes (2.7 million 90-kilo bags) from Uganda and Tanzania during one production year, but the figure is projected to be lower this year due to the demand for maize in Eastern, Central and Southern Africa is high.

Regional Agricultural Trade Intelligence Network statistics show that Kenya has imported about 110,000 tonnes of maize (1.2 million 90-kilo bags) from both Uganda and Tanzania since July 2008.

Last year, it imported 81,730 tonnes of maize, 4,045 of beans and 12,073 tonnes of rice compared with 121,153 tonnes of maize, 8,401 tonnes of beans and 14,110 tonnes of rice in 2007.

It imported 60,430 tonnes of maize, 122,152 tonnes of beans from Uganda, last year. It imported 98,029 tonnes of maize and 65,134 tonnes of beans the previous year. It is projected that not more than 50,000 tonnes of maize will be imported between January and June 2009.

As a short-term measure, the Government has approved the importation of 900,000 tonnes (10 million 90-kilo bags) of grain duty free. Both the Government and the private sector would do this. It will import seven million bags for its strategic grain reserves while millers and traders will import three million bags.

The country has banned grain and flour exports. Two months ago, due to the rising price of maize flour, the Government announced that it would make maize flour available at a subsidised price.

Under the arrangement, the millers would source subsidised maize grain for processing from the National Cereals and Produce Board (NCPB). NCPB would buy maize directly from the farmers at Ksh1,950 a bag ($277 a tonne) and resell it to the millers at Ksh1,750 a bag ($250 per tonne).

Prices of maize stood at an average of $307 a tonne in Dar es Salaam, $309 in Nairobi, $368 in Kigali, $245 in Kampala and $490 in Lilongwe last week against $299, $303, $381, $244 and $543, respectively the previous week.

A tonne of maize was sold for $311 in Dar es Salaam at the end of last week. Tanzania also banned cereals exports amid fears of a food shortage. But in the past few months, this paper reported that food smuggling out of Tanzania to Kenya was continuing.

Source: The citizen

Safi sana.Sasa tusubiri jibu.
 
We dont see the need of starting threads to deface other people countries, I think I have better things to do than try and show an illiterate dude that he is being duped by the media and his goverment, who potray that his country is perfect.

Its a fact that there is famine in our country, but as I usually say, we are learning from our mistakes, and we will come out of our problems much stronger and with measures to keep hunger and famine outside our borders.

you usually make me laugh when you say ati Kenya ni masikini, I guess its a case of the pot calling the kettle black. we are poor lakini sio kama nyinyi, at least we are making initiatives to unshackle the chains of poverty amongst us, unlike you my Tanzanian brothers who are still burying your head in the sand. ITS SO BAD TO BE IN DENIAL, BECAUSE ONE NEVER CHANGES..your country is in denial- thanks to your boot licking media, and your politicians.

Lets stay focused here.

Did you check the title of this thread Mr. Unsmart? As afar as I can see your memoryless brain is n't working at all.

You can refer back to my previous post, there,you can find replies for all of your future pathetic posts and more.
 
Jamani, mi naona this thread could have been interesting and a way for our coutnry Tanzania to analyze and see what our neighbours are doing but I am seeing a disturbing trend. Haya si mashindano au mechi ya mpira wa miguu, this is about the political and economic future of our country.
By trying to demean our neighbours, doesn't make us better. Kama mtanzania mimi nawa-admire sana jirani zetu na ninaamini just as we have a lot to learn from them, they have things to learn from us. Sasa tukifanya kama ligi hatutaendelea.
I find the Brookside Diary a very interesting topic, espcially with the Arusha dairy farm angle. It is time that we Tanzanians start looking closely what we are doing. We do not have favorable conditions to start factories and to engage manufacturing? Why is Tanzanian economy still largely based on trade (importing and then reselling), why are we so weak in manufacturing? Why is Nairobi the capital hub of East Africa? Why are all the multinationals building their factories in Kenya and then selling their products to Tanzania, Uganda and the region from Kenya? These are questions that we have to ask ourselves na si kusema eti Kenya kuna njaa. Let us be mature and focus on the issue at hand.
 
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