Israel: Mawaziri Wawili watishia kujiuzulu na Kuvunja Serikali ikiwa Israel itasitisha Mapigano Gaza

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Waziri wa Fedha Bezalel Smotrich na Waziri wa Usalama wa Taifa Itamar Ben-Gvir wametishia kujiuzulu na kuvunja serikali iwapo Waziri Mkuu Benjamin Netanyahu atakubali pendekezo la kusitisha mapigano Gaza lililotolewa na Rais Joe Biden, wakisema wanapinga makubaliano yoyote kabla ya Hamas kuharibiwa kabisa

Pendekezo la Biden lingeanza na kusitisha mapigano kwa Wiki 6 ambapo Jeshi la Ulinzi la Israel (IDF) lingeondoka kutoka maeneo yenye watu wengi Gaza, Makubaliano ambayo yangesababisha kuachiliwa kwa mateka wote, "kusitisha mapigano kwa kudumu" na mpango mkubwa wa ujenzi upya wa Gaza

Netanyahu amesisitiza kwamba hakutakuwa na usitishaji wa kudumu wa mapigano hadi uwezo wa kijeshi na wa kiutawala wa Hamas utakapoharibiwa na mateka wote kuachiliwa, huku kiongozi wa upinzani Yair Lapid akiahidi kuunga mkono Serikali ikiwa itakubali kusitisha Mapigano

Imeelezwa tokea kuanza kwa Mapigano Oktoba 7, 2023 Zaidi ya watu 36,000 wameuawa Gaza

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Two far-right Israeli ministers have threatened to quit and collapse the governing coalition if Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu agrees to a Gaza ceasefire proposal unveiled by US President Joe Biden on Friday.
Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir said they were opposed to striking any deal before Hamas was destroyed

But opposition leader Yair Lapid has pledged to back the government if Mr Netanyahu supported the plan.
The prime minister himself insisted there would be no permanent truce until Hamas's military and governing capabilities were destroyed and all hostages released.

Mr Biden's three-part proposal would begin with a six-week ceasefire in which the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) would withdraw from populated areas of Gaza. The deal would eventually lead to the release of all hostages, a permanent "cessation of hostilities" and a major reconstruction plan for Gaza.

But in a post on social media on Saturday, Mr Smotrich said he told Mr Netanyahu he would "not be part of a government that agrees to the proposed outline and ends the war without destroying Hamas and bringing back all the hostages".

Echoing his words, Mr Ben-Gvir said "the deal.. means the end of the war and the abandonment of the goal to destroy Hamas. This is a reckless deal, which constitutes a victory for terrorism and a security threat to the State of Israel".

He vowed to "dissolve the government" rather than agree to the proposal.
Mr Netanyahu's right-wing coalition holds a slim majority in parliament, relying on a host of factions, including Mr Ben-Gvir's Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power) party - who hold six seats - and Mr Smotrich's Religious Zionism party - who hold seven seats - to maintain power.

But Yair Lapid, one of Israel's most influential opposition politicians, was quick to offer his backing to the embattled prime minister. His Yesh Atid (There is a future) party hold 24 seats.

He said Mr Netanyahu "has our safety net for a hostage deal if Ben-Gvir and Smotrich leave the government".

The row came as tens of thousands of people rallied in Tel Aviv, calling on the Israeli government to accept Mr Biden's proposed plan.


Many demonstrators also demanded Mr Netanyahu's resignation and some told reporters they feared the prime minister could torpedo the proposal.
A group campaigning to bring home Israeli hostages captured by Hamas has warned that such a move would endanger the lives of those held in Gaza

Scuffles broke out between protesters and police, who used mounted officers and water cannon to disperse the crowds. Some demonstrators were reportedly detained.

Protests have become a fixture in Tel Aviv in recent months, as families of hostages and other anti-government campaigners have held rallies calling for a hostage deal - as well as for Mr Netanyahu to step down or call an election.

In a joint statement on Saturday, mediators from Egypt, Qatar and the US urged both Israel and Hamas to "finalise" Mr Biden's proposed deal.
Officials said that "as mediators in the ongoing discussions to secure a ceasefire in Gaza and the release of hostages and detainees", they "call on both Hamas and Israel to finalise the agreement embodying the principles outlined by President Joe Biden".

UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak also offered his backing to the plan, telling reporters that his government could "flood Gaza with far more aid" if Hamas accepts the ceasefire plan.
Earlier, a senior Hamas politician told the BBC it "will go for this deal" if Israel does.

But in a statement on Saturday, Mr Netanyahu's office said Israel's "conditions for ending the war have not changed".
It listed these as "the destruction of Hamas military and governing capabilities, the freeing of all hostages and ensuring that Gaza no longer poses a threat to Israel".
The statement added Israel would "continue to insist these conditions are met" before agreeing to a permanent ceasefire.

Fighting continues in Rafah, where many Palestinians from all over Gaza Strip have sought refuge
Elsewhere, fighting continued in Rafah on Saturday, with reports of Israeli air strikes on Gaza's southern city on Egypt's border.

Shelling and gunfire were also reported in Gaza City, in the north of the Palestinian territory.
More than 36,000 people have been killed in Gaza since the start of the conflict, according to the Hamas-run health ministry.

The war began on 7 October 2023 when Hamas gunmen launched an unprecedented attack on Israel, killing about 1,200 people and taking 252 back to Gaza as hostages.

Source: BBC
 
Exactly, wale magaidi wa Hamas ni lazima waharibiwe kabisa ndio pawepo na ceasefire, kinyume na hapo Israel wajiandae siku yoyote kushambuliwa tena kwa kushtukiza kama ile October 7.

Sambaratisha kwanza hao magaidi wa Hamas wote ndio mawazo ya kuweka silaha chini yaanze kufanyiwa kazi. Magaidi wa Hamas ni tishio kwa raia wote wa ulimwengu kwani yanaua kila anaepita mbele yao, naunga mkono yaangamizwe.
 
Waziri wa Fedha Bezalel Smotrich na Waziri wa Usalama wa Taifa Itamar Ben-Gvir wametishia kujiuzulu na kuvunja serikali iwapo Waziri Mkuu Benjamin Netanyahu atakubali pendekezo la kusitisha mapigano Gaza lililotolewa na Rais Joe Biden, wakisema wanapinga makubaliano yoyote kabla ya Hamas kuharibiwa kabisa

Pendekezo la Biden lingeanza na kusitisha mapigano kwa Wiki 6 ambapo Jeshi la Ulinzi la Israel (IDF) lingeondoka kutoka maeneo yenye watu wengi Gaza, Makubaliano ambayo yangesababisha kuachiliwa kwa mateka wote, "kusitisha mapigano kwa kudumu" na mpango mkubwa wa ujenzi upya wa Gaza

Netanyahu amesisitiza kwamba hakutakuwa na usitishaji wa kudumu wa mapigano hadi uwezo wa kijeshi na wa kiutawala wa Hamas utakapoharibiwa na mateka wote kuachiliwa, huku kiongozi wa upinzani Yair Lapid akiahidi kuunga mkono Serikali ikiwa itakubali kusitisha Mapigano

Imeelezwa tokea kuanza kwa Mapigano Oktoba 7, 2023 Zaidi ya watu 36,000 wameuawa Gaza

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Two far-right Israeli ministers have threatened to quit and collapse the governing coalition if Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu agrees to a Gaza ceasefire proposal unveiled by US President Joe Biden on Friday.
Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir said they were opposed to striking any deal before Hamas was destroyed

But opposition leader Yair Lapid has pledged to back the government if Mr Netanyahu supported the plan.
The prime minister himself insisted there would be no permanent truce until Hamas's military and governing capabilities were destroyed and all hostages released.

Mr Biden's three-part proposal would begin with a six-week ceasefire in which the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) would withdraw from populated areas of Gaza. The deal would eventually lead to the release of all hostages, a permanent "cessation of hostilities" and a major reconstruction plan for Gaza.

But in a post on social media on Saturday, Mr Smotrich said he told Mr Netanyahu he would "not be part of a government that agrees to the proposed outline and ends the war without destroying Hamas and bringing back all the hostages".

Echoing his words, Mr Ben-Gvir said "the deal.. means the end of the war and the abandonment of the goal to destroy Hamas. This is a reckless deal, which constitutes a victory for terrorism and a security threat to the State of Israel".

He vowed to "dissolve the government" rather than agree to the proposal.
Mr Netanyahu's right-wing coalition holds a slim majority in parliament, relying on a host of factions, including Mr Ben-Gvir's Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power) party - who hold six seats - and Mr Smotrich's Religious Zionism party - who hold seven seats - to maintain power.

But Yair Lapid, one of Israel's most influential opposition politicians, was quick to offer his backing to the embattled prime minister. His Yesh Atid (There is a future) party hold 24 seats.

He said Mr Netanyahu "has our safety net for a hostage deal if Ben-Gvir and Smotrich leave the government".

The row came as tens of thousands of people rallied in Tel Aviv, calling on the Israeli government to accept Mr Biden's proposed plan.


Many demonstrators also demanded Mr Netanyahu's resignation and some told reporters they feared the prime minister could torpedo the proposal.
A group campaigning to bring home Israeli hostages captured by Hamas has warned that such a move would endanger the lives of those held in Gaza

Scuffles broke out between protesters and police, who used mounted officers and water cannon to disperse the crowds. Some demonstrators were reportedly detained.

Protests have become a fixture in Tel Aviv in recent months, as families of hostages and other anti-government campaigners have held rallies calling for a hostage deal - as well as for Mr Netanyahu to step down or call an election.

In a joint statement on Saturday, mediators from Egypt, Qatar and the US urged both Israel and Hamas to "finalise" Mr Biden's proposed deal.
Officials said that "as mediators in the ongoing discussions to secure a ceasefire in Gaza and the release of hostages and detainees", they "call on both Hamas and Israel to finalise the agreement embodying the principles outlined by President Joe Biden".

UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak also offered his backing to the plan, telling reporters that his government could "flood Gaza with far more aid" if Hamas accepts the ceasefire plan.
Earlier, a senior Hamas politician told the BBC it "will go for this deal" if Israel does.

But in a statement on Saturday, Mr Netanyahu's office said Israel's "conditions for ending the war have not changed".
It listed these as "the destruction of Hamas military and governing capabilities, the freeing of all hostages and ensuring that Gaza no longer poses a threat to Israel".
The statement added Israel would "continue to insist these conditions are met" before agreeing to a permanent ceasefire.

Fighting continues in Rafah, where many Palestinians from all over Gaza Strip have sought refuge
Elsewhere, fighting continued in Rafah on Saturday, with reports of Israeli air strikes on Gaza's southern city on Egypt's border.

Shelling and gunfire were also reported in Gaza City, in the north of the Palestinian territory.
More than 36,000 people have been killed in Gaza since the start of the conflict, according to the Hamas-run health ministry.

The war began on 7 October 2023 when Hamas gunmen launched an unprecedented attack on Israel, killing about 1,200 people and taking 252 back to Gaza as hostages.

Source: BBC
Israel ikikubali ceesefire siku moja hamas watafanya tukio la october 7 tena
 
Exactly, wale magaidi wa Hamas ni lazima waharibiwe kabisa ndio pawepo na ceasefire, kinyume na hapo Israel wajiandae siku yoyote kushambuliwa tena kwa kushtukiza kama ile October 7.

Sambaratisha kwanza hao magaidi wa Hamas wote ndio mawazo ya kuweka silaha chini yaanze kufanyiwa kazi. Magaidi wa Hamas ni tishio kwa raia wote wa ulimwengu kwani yanaua kila anaepita mbele yao, naunga mkono yaangamizwe.
Tatizo lenu nyie mnafikiria ushindi kupiga wale wanyonge wasio kuwa na hatia, mtabaki na huo ujinga maisha yenu kuwauwa watoto, wanawake na wazee na vijana ambao sio makamanda wa Hamasi ni ushindi wa kijinga tu.

Ushindi unaweka target naifuta Hamas na Itawala Gaza kwa nguvu, na okoa matekwa huo ndio ushindi aliutaka Netanyahu hakupata ushindi huo.

Ama sijui na wafungia chakula, maji na vunja hospita zao shule zao na majumba yao huo ushindi ni wavichaa tu 😄

Marekani kila siku anatoa pesa na silaha lakini haoni kama Israel wameweza kusambaratisha Hamas juzi wameingia Rafah wanasema Hamas wamejificha huko😀

Wewe usiwe punguani ebu jiulize mpaka leo inaenda mwezi wa 9 Jeshi la Israel hawajui mateka walipo na eneo la Gaza linazidiwa na Kigamboni kwa ukubwa. Juzi Hamas wamerusha makobora Tel Aviv.
 
Hii issue ishakuwa ngumu kwa Netanyau mambo kama haya nchi inatakiwa kuwa na umoja, wanasiasa vigeugeu pamoja na wananchi wanafiki wachache wanamkwamisha kwenye majukumu yake kama vipi aondoe majeshi Gaza baadae watamkumbuka maana hao wapuuzi wa Hamas wasipomalizwa kamwe hawatoacha kurusha rockets.
 
Tatizo lenu nyie mnafikiria ushindi kupiga wale wanyonge wasio kuwa na hatia, mtabaki na huo ujinga maisha yenu kuwauwa watoto, wanawake na wazee na vijana ambao sio makamanda wa Hamasi ni ushindi wa kijinga tu.

Ushindi unaweka target naifuta Hamas na Itawala Gaza kwa nguvu, na okoa matekwa huo ndio ushindi aliutaka Netanyahu hakupata ushindi huo.

Ama sijui na wafungia chakula, maji na vunja hospita zao shule zao na majumba yao huo ushindi ni wavichaa tu 😄

Marekani kila siku anatoa pesa na silaha lakini haoni kama Israel wameweza kusambaratisha Hamas juzi wameingia Rafah wanasema Hamas wamejificha huko😀

Wewe usiwe punguani ebu jiulize mpaka leo inaenda mwezi wa 9 Jeshi la Israel hawajui mateka walipo na eneo la Gaza linazidiwa na Kigamboni kwa ukubwa. Juzi Hamas wamerusha makobora Tel Aviv.
Mnyonge?Mnyonge anavamia,kuua,kutesa,kuteka,kubaka,kulawiti na kurusha viroketi?Mnyonge hutulia aonewe huruma.Mnyonge huishi na wenzie kwa amani.Mnyonge havimbishi misuli wala mishipa.To hell with wanyonge.Wanyongwe tu.
 
Hamas hadi wateketezwe kabisa, ndio vita vitaisha, nimependa sana misimamo ya wayahudi, hakuna kuongea na magaidi, ni kuwateketeza, msisahau hao magaidi Hamas ndio walianzisha vita kwa kuvamia na kuua na kuteka raia wa nchi mbali mbali nchini Israel tena wakiwa katika sherehe zao, sasa kwanini vita visimame? Hadi magaidi Hamas waishe ndio vita vitaisha, yaani wao Hamas waanzishe vita alafu waombe vita viishe? Vita vitaisha hadi Hamas waishe, huo ndio msimamo wa Serikali ya Netanyahu, excellent..!!

Hamas must be destroyed first kabla ya vita kumalizika, Netanyahu said many times..!!
 
Tatizo lenu nyie mnafikiria ushindi kupiga wale wanyonge wasio kuwa na hatia, mtabaki na huo ujinga maisha yenu kuwauwa watoto, wanawake na wazee na vijana ambao sio makamanda wa Hamasi ni ushindi wa kijinga tu.

Ushindi unaweka target naifuta Hamas na Itawala Gaza kwa nguvu, na okoa matekwa huo ndio ushindi aliutaka Netanyahu hakupata ushindi huo.

Ama sijui na wafungia chakula, maji na vunja hospita zao shule zao na majumba yao huo ushindi ni wavichaa tu 😄

Marekani kila siku anatoa pesa na silaha lakini haoni kama Israel wameweza kusambaratisha Hamas juzi wameingia Rafah wanasema Hamas wamejificha huko😀

Wewe usiwe punguani ebu jiulize mpaka leo inaenda mwezi wa 9 Jeshi la Israel hawajui mateka walipo na eneo la Gaza linazidiwa na Kigamboni kwa ukubwa. Juzi Hamas wamerusha makobora Tel Aviv.
Hamas ni magaidi lazima wapotezwe, historia yako peleka pengine.
 
Hamas hadi wateketezwe kabisa, ndio vita vitaisha, nimependa sana misimamo ya wayahudi, hakuna kuongea na magaidi, ni kuwateketeza, msisahau hao magaidi Hamas ndio walianzisha vita kwa kuvamia na kuua na kuteka raia wa nchi mbali mbali nchini Israel tena wakiwa katika sherehe zao, sasa kwanini vita visimame? Hadi magaidi Hamas waishe ndio vita vitaisha, yaani wao Hamas waanzishe vita alafu waombe vita viishe? Vita vitaisha hadi Hamas waishe, huo ndio msimamo wa Serikali ya Netanyahu, excellent..!!

Hamas must be destroyed first kabla ya vita kumalizika, Netanyahu said many times..!!
unapenda sana misimamo ya kiupinde...
 
Hii issue ishakuwa ngumu kwa Netanyau mambo kama haya nchi inatakiwa kuwa na umoja, wanasiasa vigeugeu pamoja na wananchi wanafiki wachache wanamkwamisha kwenye majukumu yake kama vipi aondoe majeshi Gaza baadae watamkumbuka maana hao wapuuzi wa Hamas wasipomalizwa kamwe hawatoacha kurusha rockets.
Hakuna anaeweza kumaliza hamasi si Marekani au IDF hapo akubali au Mbungi liendelee juzi tu hapa hamasi kateka wanajeshi wengine
 
Exactly, wale magaidi wa Hamas ni lazima waharibiwe kabisa ndio pawepo na ceasefire, kinyume na hapo Israel wajiandae siku yoyote kushambuliwa tena kwa kushtukiza kama ile October 7.

Sambaratisha kwanza hao magaidi wa Hamas wote ndio mawazo ya kuweka silaha chini yaanze kufanyiwa kazi. Magaidi wa Hamas ni tishio kwa raia wote wa ulimwengu kwani yanaua kila anaepita mbele yao, naunga mkono yaangamizwe.
Kumbe siku hizi mungu wenu hapigani kwa niaba yenu?
 
Exactly, wale magaidi wa Hamas ni lazima waharibiwe kabisa ndio pawepo na ceasefire, kinyume na hapo Israel wajiandae siku yoyote kushambuliwa tena kwa kushtukiza kama ile October 7.

Sambaratisha kwanza hao magaidi wa Hamas wote ndio mawazo ya kuweka silaha chini yaanze kufanyiwa kazi. Magaidi wa Hamas ni tishio kwa raia wote wa ulimwengu kwani yanaua kila anaepita mbele yao, naunga mkono yaangamizwe.
Hamas wangapi wameshakufa hadi sasa? Angalia raia wanaokufa na idadi ya magaidi wa Hamas wanaokufa pia. Ni vita yenye malengo kwa Israel, lakini iliyokosa usahihi macho na badala yake inaumiza raia wasiokuwa na hatia hasa wanawake na watoto haijalishi upande gani umejeruhiwa sana. Hii ni kwa mtazamo wangu mdogo na tathmini binafsi.
Siwaungi mkono Hamas, lakini pia siungi mkono kuona wanadamu wenzangu hasa wasiokuwa na hatia, iwe Israel au Palestina wanaachwa wauawe ovyo kiasi hiki. Vifo ni zaidi ya 34, 000. Sisi tuna amani, tuwahurumie wenzetu wanaoishi bila amani.
 
Mpaka anawamaliza bila bila shaka Israeli itakuwa ni shitole counrty .itakuwaa na deni la usd 1trillion .yaan nchi itakuwa imefiliska maa kila sh itskuwa inagharamikia vita
Hakuna anaeweza kumaliza hamasi si Marekani au IDF hapo akubali au Mbungi liendelee juzi tu hapa hamasi kateka wanajeshi wengine
 
Hamas wangapi wameshakufa hadi sasa? Angalia raia wanaokufa na idadi ya magaidi wa Hamas wanaokufa pia. Ni vita yenye malengo kwa Israel, lakini iliyokosa usahihi macho na badala yake inaumiza raia wasiokuwa na hatia hasa wanawake na watoto haijalishi upande gani umejeruhiwa sana. Hii ni kwa mtazamo wangu mdogo na tathmini binafsi.
Siwaungi mkono Hamas, lakini pia siungi mkono kuona wanadamu wenzangu hasa wasiokuwa na hatia, iwe Israel au Palestina wanaachwa wauawe ovyo kiasi hiki. Vifo ni zaidi ya 34, 000. Sisi tuna amani, tuwahurumie wenzetu wanaoishi bila amani.
Hao wanawake na watoto wanaouliwa ni kwasababu huwaruhusu magaidi wa Hamas wajifiche kwenye makazi yao, Israel walishawahi kutoa mpaka ultimutum kuwataka raia waondoke maeneo ambayo wangeshambulia kabla hawajaanza kushambulia, nia yao njema inaonekana wazi kabisa.
 
Hii issue ishakuwa ngumu kwa Netanyau mambo kama haya nchi inatakiwa kuwa na umoja, wanasiasa vigeugeu pamoja na wananchi wanafiki wachache wanamkwamisha kwenye majukumu yake kama vipi aondoe majeshi Gaza baadae watamkumbuka maana hao wapuuzi wa Hamas wasipomalizwa kamwe hawatoacha kurusha rockets.
Kuna waziri wake mmoja ambaye ni former military chief ambaye naye kwa bahati mbaya mtoto wake kauliwa oct 7 na hamas anataka kuresign kwakuwa netanyahu ameshindwa kutimiza ahadi zake na ameshindwa vita, anachofanya ni ujanja wakuendelea kubaki madarakani kwa kuwaendekeza right wing ingawa kinachoendelea sasa huko gaza hakina faida kwa taifa la israel.
Mateka kashindwa kuwarudisha
Ameshindwa kujenga amani na majirani kama alivyoahidi wakati anaingia madarakani
KWa ilipofikia naona ni marekani aingilie kati kutatua mgogoro huu wakimfuatisha netanyahu vita imaweza kudumu hata miaka mitano
 

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Tatizo lenu nyie mnafikiria ushindi kupiga wale wanyonge wasio kuwa na hatia, mtabaki na huo ujinga maisha yenu kuwauwa watoto, wanawake na wazee na vijana ambao sio makamanda wa Hamasi ni ushindi wa kijinga tu.

Ushindi unaweka target naifuta Hamas na Itawala Gaza kwa nguvu, na okoa matekwa huo ndio ushindi aliutaka Netanyahu hakupata ushindi huo.

Ama sijui na wafungia chakula, maji na vunja hospita zao shule zao na majumba yao huo ushindi ni wavichaa tu 😄

Marekani kila siku anatoa pesa na silaha lakini haoni kama Israel wameweza kusambaratisha Hamas juzi wameingia Rafah wanasema Hamas wamejificha huko😀

Wewe usiwe punguani ebu jiulize mpaka leo inaenda mwezi wa 9 Jeshi la Israel hawajui mateka walipo na eneo la Gaza linazidiwa na Kigamboni kwa ukubwa. Juzi Hamas wamerusha makobora Tel Aviv.

Oct 7 Hamas walipata ushindi huohuo kwa kuua na kuteka raia.

Jambo moja ambalo wengi hujisahaulisha ni kuwa Wayahudi huongozwa na kanuni ya jino kwa jino.

Alafu hao mateka Israel inawatumia tuu kama kisingizio. Lengo la wayahudi ni kuiharibu na kuiangamiza na kuwakomesha wapalestina na ndicho tunachokiona.
 
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