Instructions To CCM Party And JK


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I am an Alien from outer space. I reside in Galaxy but have been assigned to follow various developments in this planet and provide you with alternative solutions.

CCM, I am giving you the warning that you are now ruining your party. Since Nyerere has passed away things has never been the same within CCM. Nyerere was the Founder of this Nation and the party. He felt the sense of OWNERSHIP which is now missing among many of you members. Those with money now has become key people to influence party decisions and directions without taking the INTEREST of the country at heart.

CCM, you have lost credibility. You have lost Patriotism as a party. President Kikwete as a Chairperson of CCM you have been too weak to stand firm and guard the interest of the party, its members and Tanzanians. Although your intentions are good, but you lack the boldness and control. You must change and call it enough. You were chosen as a single President and Chairperson. No partnership. Take steps now. If u dont history will come to judge u. I have instructed the rest of opposition parties to unite and form a Strong Party. They will do that. Your next General Election wont be easy if you dont steps now.

INSTRUCTION:

I challenge all those in CCM who do not agree with the current situation in CCM to come out in good numbers and speak vigorously and take a strong stand. If CCM cannot change still, leave the party and together with all opposition parties you must agree to form a Single Strong Party. If you dont do that, I have made provisions for your Voters not to elect you next time. Trust me if you ignore u wont be elected.

This is a Call for only Serious and Honest Politicians and is not for majority of CCM Members who has completely lost the patriotism and are looking for only their personal interest at heart.

I am off to THE MILKWAY GALAXY, I will be back.
 
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aaiiiiiiiii, kuna muujiza unatokea hapa, no no no, i have to be offff, duh!!
 
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aaiiiiiiiii, kuna muujiza unatokea hapa, no no no, i have to be offff, duh!!
.... mama usiogope... nadhani hii ni collaboration kati ya 'robots' na 'alliens' tu!!
 
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aaiiiiiiiii, kuna muujiza unatokea hapa, no no no, i have to be offff, duh!!
Mama,
Funga macho,ili usizuie muujiza na upako kupita..


I wish anguko hilo lingetimia soon
 
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I reside in Galaxy
Which Galaxy? You need to brush up on your linguistic acumen Allien (Alien?). I reside in a galaxy, yes, I reside in the galaxy...., yes, I reside in galaxy, definitely no!

I am off to THE MILKWAY GALAXY, I will be back.
Did you mean the Milky Way Galaxy? There is no such thing as "The Milkway Galaxy"

Everybody on planet earth is in the Milky Way Galaxy.You will be back, where?

Are you saying I am here, off to here and will be back here?

I don't know about your politics, but your Cosmology is certainly butchered up.The subject is dear to some of us so if you want to use it use it properly.
 
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.... mama usiogope... nadhani hii ni collaboration kati ya 'robots' na 'alliens' tu!!
Mama usiogope huyu jamaa ana style yake tu ya kuingia hapa na kuandika mambo yake, lakini points zake nyingi ziko valid kabisa.
 
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Hivi viingereza mbona vitatua jasho
 
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Galaxy Name Other Name RA (2000.0) Dec Remarks
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Ambartsumian's Knot NGC 3561 11:11.2 +28:42
Andromeda Galaxy M31 00:42.7 +41:16 Local Group
Andromeda I 00:45.7 +38:00 Local Group
Andromeda II 01:16.3 +33:25 Local Group

Andromeda III 00:35.3 +36:31 Local Group
Andromeda IV 00:42.5 +40:34 Local Group (?)
Antennae Galaxies NGC 4038/9 12:01.9 -18:52 Ring Tail
Aquarius Dwarf DDO 210 20:46.9 -12:51 Local Group

Arp's Galaxy 11:19.6 +51:30
Atom For Peace Galaxy NGC 7252 22:20.8 -24:41 Arp 226
Baade's Galaxies A & B MCG+07-02-018/19 00:49.9 +42:35
Barbon's Galaxy Markarian 328 23:37.7 +30:08 Zwicky 497.042

Barnard's Galaxy NGC 6822 19:44.9 -14:48
Bears Paw (Claw) NGC 2537 08:13.2 +46:00 Arp 6
BL Lacertae 22:02.7 +42:17
Black Eye Galaxy M64 12:56.7 +21:41

Bode's Galaxies M81/M82 09:55.7 +69:23 [often, M81 only]
Burbidge Chain MCG-04-03-010..3 00:47.5 -20:26
BW Tauri UGC 3087 04:33.2 +05:21
Capricorn Dwarf MCG-04-51-013 21:46.5 -21:14 Palomar 12 [globular cluster]

Carafe Galaxy, Cannon's 04:28.0 -47:54 near NGC 1595/98
Carina Dwarf 06:41.6 -50:58 Local Group
Cartwheel Galaxy MCG-06-02-022a 00:37.4 -33:44
Centaurus A NGC 5128 13:25.5 -43:01 Arp 153

Circinus Galaxy 14:13.2 -65:20
Coddington's Nebula IC 2574 10:28.4 +68:25
Copeland Septet NGC 3745+ 11:37.8 +21:59 +NGC 3746/48/50/51/53/54
Cygnus A MCG +07-41-003 19:59.4 +40:43

Draco Dwarf DDO 208 17:20.2 +57:55 UGC 10822; Local Group
Exclamation Mark Galaxy 00:39.3 -43:06
The Eyes NGC 4435/8 12:27.7 +13:03 Virgo Cluster
Fath 703 NGC 5892 15:13.7 -15:29

Fornax A NGC 1316 03:22.7 -37:12 Arp 154
Fornax Dwarf MCG-06-07-001 02:39.9 -34:32 Local Group
Fourcade-Figuero MCG-07-28-004 13:34.8 -45:33
The Garland 10:04.2 +68:40 S of NGC 3077

Grus Quartet NGC 7552+ 23:17.8 -42:26 +NGC 7582/90/99
GR 8 (Gibson Reaves) DDO 155 12:58.7 +14:13 UGC 8091
Hardcastle's Galaxy MCG-05-31-039 13:13.0 -32:41
Helix Galaxy NGC 2685 08:55.6 +58:44

Hercules A MCG+01-43-006 16:51.2 +04:59
Hoag's Object 15:17.2 +21:35
Holmberg I DDO 63 09:40.5 +71:11 UGC 5139
Holmberg II DDO 50 08:19.3 +70:43 Arp 268, UGC 4305

Holmberg III UGC 4841 09:14.6 +74:14
Holmberg IV DDO 185 13:54.7 +53:54 UGC 8837
Holmberg V UGC 8658 13:40.6 +54:20
Holmberg VI NGC 1325a 03:24.9 -21:20

Holmberg VII DDO 137 12:34.7 +06:17 UGC 7739
Holmberg VIII DDO 166 13:13.3 +36:12 UGC 8303
Holmberg IX DDO 66 09:57.6 +69:03 UGC 5336
Horologium Dwarf 03:59.2 -21:20 also Schuster's Spiral

Hydra A MCG-02-24-007 09:18.1 -12:06
Integral Sign Galaxy UGC 3697 07:11.4 +71:50
Keenan's System NGC 5216/6a/8 13:32.2 +62:43 Arp 104
Kowal's Object 19:29.9 -17:41

Large Magellanic Cloud, LMC 05:23.6 -69:45 "Nubecula Major"; Local Group
Leo I DDO 74 10:08.5 +12:18 Regulus dwarf, UGC 5470, Harrington-Wilson #1; Local Group
Leo II, Leo B DDO 93 11:13.4 +22:10 UGC 6253, Harrington-Wilson #2; Local Group
Leo III, Leo A DDO 69 09:59.3 +30:45 UGC 5364; Local Group

Lindsay-Shapley Ring 06:42.8 -74:15 Graham A
Lost Galaxy NGC 4535 12:34.3 +08:11 Virgo Cluster
McLeish's Object 20:09.7 -66:13
Maffei I UGCA 34 02:36.4 +59:39

Maffei II UGCA 39 02:42.0 +59:37
Malin 1 12:37.0 +14:20 behind Virgo Cluster
Mayall's Object MCG+07-23-019 11:03.9 +40:50 Arp 148
Mice NGC 4676 12:46.1 +30:44

Miniature Spiral NGC 3928 11:51.8 +48:41
Minkowski's Object Arp 133 01:25.8 -01:21 NE of NGC 541
Pancake NGC 2685 08:55.6 +58:44 Arp 336
Papillon IC 708 11:33.9 +49:03

Pegasus Dwarf DDO 216 23:28.5 +14:44 UGC 12613
Perseus A NGC 1275/6 03:19.8 +41:31
Phoenix Dwarf Irregular G. 01:51.1 -44:26
Pinwheel Galaxy M33 01:33.9 +30:39 also Triangulum Galaxy; Local Group
Pinwheel Galaxy M99 12:18.8 +14:25 Virgo Pinwheel; Virgo Cluster
Pinwheel Galaxy M101 14:03.3 +54:22 (name most frequently used)

Pisces Cloud NGC 379/80/82-5 01:07.5 +32:25 Arp 331
Pisces Dwarf LGS 3 00:03.8 +21:54
Polarissima Australis NGC 2573 01:42.0 -89:20
Polarissima Borealis NGC 3172 11:50.3 +89:07

Reinmuth 80 NGC 4517a 12:32.5 +00:23 UGC 7685
Reticulum Dwarf Sersic 040.03 04:36.2 -58:50 [LMG globular cluster]
Sagittarius Dwarf 19:30.0 -17:41 [SagDIG]
Sculptor Dwarf MCG-06-03-015 01:00.2 -33:42

Sculptor Dwarf Irregular 00:08.1 -34:34
Seashell Galaxy 13:47.4 -30:23 Companion to NGC 5291
Serpens Dwarf UGC 9792 15:16.1 -00:08 Palomar 5 [globular cluster]
Sextans A DDO 75 10:11.0 -04:41 UGCA 205; Local Group

Sextans B DDO 70 10:00.0 +05:19 UGC 5373
Sextans C UGC 5439 10:05.6 +00:04 Palomar 3 [globular cluster]
Seyfert's Sextet NGC 6027/27a-e 15:59.2 +20:46 Serpens Sextet
Shapley-Ames 1 01:05.1 -06:13

Shapley-Ames 2 NGC 4507 12:35.1 -39:55
Shapley-Ames 3 MCG-02-33-015 12:49.4 -10:07
Shapley-Ames 4 UGC 8041 12:55.2 +00:07
Shapley-Ames 5 MCG-07-42-001 20:24.0 -44:00

Shapley-Ames 6 21:23.2 +45:46
Siamese Twins NGC 4567/8 12:36.5 +11:15 Virgo Cluster
Silver Coin NGC 253 00:47.6 -25:18
Small Magellanic Cloud, SMC 00:52.7 -72:50 "Nubecula Minor"; Local Group

Sombrero Galaxy M104 12:39.9 -11:37
Spider DDO 84 10:42.6 +34:27 UGC 5829
Spindle Galaxy NGC 3115 10:05.2 -07:42

Stephan's Quintet NGC 7317-20 22:36.0 +33:58 Arp 319
Sunflower Galaxy M63 13:15.8 +42:02
Triangulum Galaxy M33 01:33.9 +30:39 Local Group
Ursa Minor Dwarf DDO 199 15:08.8 +67:12 UGC 9749; Local Group

Virgo A M87 12:30.8 +12:23 Virgo Cluster
Whirlpool Galaxy M51 13:29.9 +47:12
Wild's Triplett MCG-01-30-032..4 11:46.8 -03:49 Arp 248
Wolf-Lundmark-Melotte, WLM DDO 221 00:02.0 -15:28 Local Group

Zwicky #2 DDO 105 11:58.4 +38:03 UGC 6955
Zwicky's Triplet UGC 10586 16:49.5 +45:30 Arp 103

Ngoja achague yupo ipi labda kakosea kidogo!

Source: http://seds.org/messier/xtra/supp/rasc-g-n.html
 
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FairPlayer,

Don't entice me to hijack this thread with galactic comparisons and extrapolations of the mind boggling integalactic expanse.

And none of it from "Battlestar Gallactica" either.
 
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FairPlayer,

Don't entice me to hijack this thread with galactic comparisons and extrapolations of the mind boggling integalactic expanse.And none of it from "Battlestar Gallactica" either.
Oh no....please don't.....
 
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Galaxy Name Other Name RA (2000.0) Dec Remarks
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Ambartsumian's Knot NGC 3561 11:11.2 +28:42
Andromeda Galaxy M31 00:42.7 +41:16 Local Group
Andromeda I 00:45.7 +38:00 Local Group
Andromeda II 01:16.3 +33:25 Local Group

Andromeda III 00:35.3 +36:31 Local Group
Andromeda IV 00:42.5 +40:34 Local Group (?)
Antennae Galaxies NGC 4038/9 12:01.9 -18:52 Ring Tail
Aquarius Dwarf DDO 210 20:46.9 -12:51 Local Group

Arp's Galaxy 11:19.6 +51:30
Atom For Peace Galaxy NGC 7252 22:20.8 -24:41 Arp 226
Baade's Galaxies A & B MCG+07-02-018/19 00:49.9 +42:35
Barbon's Galaxy Markarian 328 23:37.7 +30:08 Zwicky 497.042

Barnard's Galaxy NGC 6822 19:44.9 -14:48
Bears Paw (Claw) NGC 2537 08:13.2 +46:00 Arp 6
BL Lacertae 22:02.7 +42:17
Black Eye Galaxy M64 12:56.7 +21:41

Bode's Galaxies M81/M82 09:55.7 +69:23 [often, M81 only]
Burbidge Chain MCG-04-03-010..3 00:47.5 -20:26
BW Tauri UGC 3087 04:33.2 +05:21
Capricorn Dwarf MCG-04-51-013 21:46.5 -21:14 Palomar 12 [globular cluster]

Carafe Galaxy, Cannon's 04:28.0 -47:54 near NGC 1595/98
Carina Dwarf 06:41.6 -50:58 Local Group
Cartwheel Galaxy MCG-06-02-022a 00:37.4 -33:44
Centaurus A NGC 5128 13:25.5 -43:01 Arp 153

Circinus Galaxy 14:13.2 -65:20
Coddington's Nebula IC 2574 10:28.4 +68:25
Copeland Septet NGC 3745+ 11:37.8 +21:59 +NGC 3746/48/50/51/53/54
Cygnus A MCG +07-41-003 19:59.4 +40:43

Draco Dwarf DDO 208 17:20.2 +57:55 UGC 10822; Local Group
Exclamation Mark Galaxy 00:39.3 -43:06
The Eyes NGC 4435/8 12:27.7 +13:03 Virgo Cluster
Fath 703 NGC 5892 15:13.7 -15:29

Fornax A NGC 1316 03:22.7 -37:12 Arp 154
Fornax Dwarf MCG-06-07-001 02:39.9 -34:32 Local Group
Fourcade-Figuero MCG-07-28-004 13:34.8 -45:33
The Garland 10:04.2 +68:40 S of NGC 3077

Grus Quartet NGC 7552+ 23:17.8 -42:26 +NGC 7582/90/99
GR 8 (Gibson Reaves) DDO 155 12:58.7 +14:13 UGC 8091
Hardcastle's Galaxy MCG-05-31-039 13:13.0 -32:41
Helix Galaxy NGC 2685 08:55.6 +58:44

Hercules A MCG+01-43-006 16:51.2 +04:59
Hoag's Object 15:17.2 +21:35
Holmberg I DDO 63 09:40.5 +71:11 UGC 5139
Holmberg II DDO 50 08:19.3 +70:43 Arp 268, UGC 4305

Holmberg III UGC 4841 09:14.6 +74:14
Holmberg IV DDO 185 13:54.7 +53:54 UGC 8837
Holmberg V UGC 8658 13:40.6 +54:20
Holmberg VI NGC 1325a 03:24.9 -21:20

Holmberg VII DDO 137 12:34.7 +06:17 UGC 7739
Holmberg VIII DDO 166 13:13.3 +36:12 UGC 8303
Holmberg IX DDO 66 09:57.6 +69:03 UGC 5336
Horologium Dwarf 03:59.2 -21:20 also Schuster's Spiral

Hydra A MCG-02-24-007 09:18.1 -12:06
Integral Sign Galaxy UGC 3697 07:11.4 +71:50
Keenan's System NGC 5216/6a/8 13:32.2 +62:43 Arp 104
Kowal's Object 19:29.9 -17:41

Large Magellanic Cloud, LMC 05:23.6 -69:45 "Nubecula Major"; Local Group
Leo I DDO 74 10:08.5 +12:18 Regulus dwarf, UGC 5470, Harrington-Wilson #1; Local Group
Leo II, Leo B DDO 93 11:13.4 +22:10 UGC 6253, Harrington-Wilson #2; Local Group
Leo III, Leo A DDO 69 09:59.3 +30:45 UGC 5364; Local Group

Lindsay-Shapley Ring 06:42.8 -74:15 Graham A
Lost Galaxy NGC 4535 12:34.3 +08:11 Virgo Cluster
McLeish's Object 20:09.7 -66:13
Maffei I UGCA 34 02:36.4 +59:39

Maffei II UGCA 39 02:42.0 +59:37
Malin 1 12:37.0 +14:20 behind Virgo Cluster
Mayall's Object MCG+07-23-019 11:03.9 +40:50 Arp 148
Mice NGC 4676 12:46.1 +30:44

Miniature Spiral NGC 3928 11:51.8 +48:41
Minkowski's Object Arp 133 01:25.8 -01:21 NE of NGC 541
Pancake NGC 2685 08:55.6 +58:44 Arp 336
Papillon IC 708 11:33.9 +49:03

Pegasus Dwarf DDO 216 23:28.5 +14:44 UGC 12613
Perseus A NGC 1275/6 03:19.8 +41:31
Phoenix Dwarf Irregular G. 01:51.1 -44:26
Pinwheel Galaxy M33 01:33.9 +30:39 also Triangulum Galaxy; Local Group
Pinwheel Galaxy M99 12:18.8 +14:25 Virgo Pinwheel; Virgo Cluster
Pinwheel Galaxy M101 14:03.3 +54:22 (name most frequently used)

Pisces Cloud NGC 379/80/82-5 01:07.5 +32:25 Arp 331
Pisces Dwarf LGS 3 00:03.8 +21:54
Polarissima Australis NGC 2573 01:42.0 -89:20
Polarissima Borealis NGC 3172 11:50.3 +89:07

Reinmuth 80 NGC 4517a 12:32.5 +00:23 UGC 7685
Reticulum Dwarf Sersic 040.03 04:36.2 -58:50 [LMG globular cluster]
Sagittarius Dwarf 19:30.0 -17:41 [SagDIG]
Sculptor Dwarf MCG-06-03-015 01:00.2 -33:42

Sculptor Dwarf Irregular 00:08.1 -34:34
Seashell Galaxy 13:47.4 -30:23 Companion to NGC 5291
Serpens Dwarf UGC 9792 15:16.1 -00:08 Palomar 5 [globular cluster]
Sextans A DDO 75 10:11.0 -04:41 UGCA 205; Local Group

Sextans B DDO 70 10:00.0 +05:19 UGC 5373
Sextans C UGC 5439 10:05.6 +00:04 Palomar 3 [globular cluster]
Seyfert's Sextet NGC 6027/27a-e 15:59.2 +20:46 Serpens Sextet
Shapley-Ames 1 01:05.1 -06:13

Shapley-Ames 2 NGC 4507 12:35.1 -39:55
Shapley-Ames 3 MCG-02-33-015 12:49.4 -10:07
Shapley-Ames 4 UGC 8041 12:55.2 +00:07
Shapley-Ames 5 MCG-07-42-001 20:24.0 -44:00

Shapley-Ames 6 21:23.2 +45:46
Siamese Twins NGC 4567/8 12:36.5 +11:15 Virgo Cluster
Silver Coin NGC 253 00:47.6 -25:18
Small Magellanic Cloud, SMC 00:52.7 -72:50 "Nubecula Minor"; Local Group

Sombrero Galaxy M104 12:39.9 -11:37
Spider DDO 84 10:42.6 +34:27 UGC 5829
Spindle Galaxy NGC 3115 10:05.2 -07:42

Stephan's Quintet NGC 7317-20 22:36.0 +33:58 Arp 319
Sunflower Galaxy M63 13:15.8 +42:02
Triangulum Galaxy M33 01:33.9 +30:39 Local Group
Ursa Minor Dwarf DDO 199 15:08.8 +67:12 UGC 9749; Local Group

Virgo A M87 12:30.8 +12:23 Virgo Cluster
Whirlpool Galaxy M51 13:29.9 +47:12
Wild's Triplett MCG-01-30-032..4 11:46.8 -03:49 Arp 248
Wolf-Lundmark-Melotte, WLM DDO 221 00:02.0 -15:28 Local Group

Zwicky #2 DDO 105 11:58.4 +38:03 UGC 6955
Zwicky's Triplet UGC 10586 16:49.5 +45:30 Arp 103

Ngoja achague yupo ipi labda kakosea kidogo!

Source: http://seds.org/messier/xtra/supp/rasc-g-n.html
Hizi porojo zote za nini?
 
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Watu wa JF mnavyojua kutishiana vishule?

Nia na madhumuni ya mwanzilishi wa mlolongo huu ni nzuri na naamini ujumbe umefika, japo ni inaonekana ni wazi ana mapungufu ya ufasaha wa lugha aliyotumia, na uelewa wa mambo ya anga. Unaweza kuta jamaa ni mzuri kuongea lakini si kimaandishi. Hili si tatizo la Kiingereza pekee, ukipitia michango mingi ya Kiswahili (hata huu) utagundua makosa lukuki. Ni vyema tunavyorekebishana, lakini basi tusipotoshe mada, tuvumiliane.
 
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Alichokisema huyo Gallaxy ni kweli na hilo ndilo muhimu tuachane na spelling za lugha yake.
Mmesahau yule binti wa haki elimu alipoulizwa swali?
 
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Allien is back from distant Galaxies . . . . Watch out for more instructions!

 
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Allien is back from distant Galaxies . . . . Watch out for more instructions!

Be useful doug!We are tired of the above comments!
What instructions?Changia mada and if you have nothing useful remain under the carpet!
 
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Allien is back from distant Galaxies . . . . Watch out for more instructions!

Be useful doug!We are tired of the above comments!
What instructions?Changia mada and if you have nothing useful remain under the carpet!
Kevo, you are a complaining type. Look at most of your posts and you will believe me. You are a big man now and I have seen your mouth can also bring impact if you concentrate on the positive side and issues.

Thank you for your observation. I will not repeat my comments as I am an Alien. But will not remain under carpet and I want you to stop being mad at people. Life is too short. Control your anger. Now, go back to the main point.
 
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FairPlayer,

Don't entice me to hijack this thread with galactic comparisons and extrapolations of the mind boggling integalactic expanse.

And none of it from "Battlestar Gallactica" either.
Mkuu Pundit, nafikiri wewe ni mtaalamu katika fani hii ya "astronomy" lakini nadhani Alien anatumia njia ya "kuburudisha" na wakati huo huo "kutoa ujumbe" ambapo wengi naamini tunavutiwa na staili yake, kwa vile ujumbe anaotaka kufikisha tunaupata, siamini kama kuna mtu hapa anakuwa serious anaposema yuko sijui Milky way galaxy, lakini wengi tunapenda hii comical style anayoitumia, tunahitaji ku- relax a bit jamani, sio kila kitu tunakuwa serious tu mkuu!! baada ya kazi nzito akili zetu zinahitaji burudani kama hizi,By the way, heshima yako mkuu Pundit hayo ma-terminology in Red hapo juu wengi wetu umetuacha njia panda.
 
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Which Galaxy? You need to brush up on your linguistic acumen Allien (Alien?). I reside in a galaxy, yes, I reside in the galaxy...., yes, I reside in galaxy, definitely no!



Did you mean the Milky Way Galaxy? There is no such thing as "The Milkway Galaxy"

Everybody on planet earth is in the Milky Way Galaxy.You will be back, where?

Are you saying I am here, off to here and will be back here?

I don't know about your politics, but your Cosmology is certainly butchered up.The subject is dear to some of us so if you want to use it use it properly.

Hey Pundit ,whats going on brother!? I thought we discussing the main points on the issue and all the suddenly attack the guy on spelling the thing which even people born and raised speaking and write english they said to need spell-check program to make sure they spell some words correct.

with red is that dear or clear.
 

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