I got to say it..."Tumeuziwa Mbuzi kwenye gunia"
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Mzee Mwanakijiji
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IO.. sizungumzii kushiriki nadhani hapo hatujakuwa kwenye kutazamana sawasawa... tatizo langu ni kwanini serikali ilipotoa mwaliko kwa wafanyabiashara walipa ishara kuwa ni sehemu ya maonesho ya bidhaa zao na kuziuza? Ni wapi katika mission ya Sullivan Summit kuna wazo la "maonesho ya biashara"?
Baada ya watu kuanza kulalamika tangu juzi ndiyo leo Andrew Young kafanya hili...
Naona tukubaliane kutokukubaliana tu but I sense something is/was very wrong.
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Mwkjj;
Unasema "tatizo langu ni kwanini serikali ilipotoa mwaliko kwa wafanyabiashara walipa ishara kuwa ni sehemu ya maonesho ya bidhaa zao na kuziuza? Ni wapi katika mission ya Sullivan Summit kuna wazo la "maonesho ya biashara"?
Ishara kuwa ni sehemu ya maonyesho ya bidhaa zao ya kuziuza: I wud understand this way: Sullivan Summit is more than a trade fair/exhibition, therefore there was a right for the government to use this opportunity to let its people to exploit this opportunity by showcasing their products and skills. Suala la kuziuza hilo ondoa kabisa; unaweza uuze au usiuze, will depend how the consumers see such the products.
Maonyesho Ya Biashara: Yes, is more than maonyesho ya biashara; only that products which were shown were inferior, also media coverage was low; but the government as a government did it well inviting its people from all walks of life. Such transparency should be there all the time. Anyway we may need more improvements from the citzens in the future!!
Unasema "tatizo langu ni kwanini serikali ilipotoa mwaliko kwa wafanyabiashara walipa ishara kuwa ni sehemu ya maonesho ya bidhaa zao na kuziuza? Ni wapi katika mission ya Sullivan Summit kuna wazo la "maonesho ya biashara"?
Ishara kuwa ni sehemu ya maonyesho ya bidhaa zao ya kuziuza: I wud understand this way: Sullivan Summit is more than a trade fair/exhibition, therefore there was a right for the government to use this opportunity to let its people to exploit this opportunity by showcasing their products and skills. Suala la kuziuza hilo ondoa kabisa; unaweza uuze au usiuze, will depend how the consumers see such the products.
Maonyesho Ya Biashara: Yes, is more than maonyesho ya biashara; only that products which were shown were inferior, also media coverage was low; but the government as a government did it well inviting its people from all walks of life. Such transparency should be there all the time. Anyway we may need more improvements from the citzens in the future!!
Mzee Mwanakijiji
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And not from the government because the government did the best they could... I got you.
Kuhani
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Baada ya watu kuanza kulalamika tangu juzi ndiyo leo Andrew Young kafanya hili...
Andrew Young msanii. Na akae huko huko mpaka moto upoe kwao Unyamwezini, maana Mama yake ndo kapigwa chini tena. Inabidi akamwombe msamaha Mluo!
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Nadhani past experience ni muhimu sana katika future planning.
Ninapata wasiwasi kwamba wawakilishi wa Tz walioshiriki summit iliyopita huko Nigeria hawakuchukua lesson yoyote ya yaliyojiri na kwamba waliishia kutalii na kuacha kufuatilia mambo ya msingi.
Naweza kwenda mbali zaidi na kusema kwa ujumla kuwa hakuna detailed analysis iliyofanyika kujenga msingi (baseline) wa Arusha summit kutokana na summit zilizopita. Au walihudhuria hizo summit hawakushiriki kabisa katika mchakato mzima wa kuandaa na kupanga hii ya kwetu.
Mzee Mwanakijiji
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mfwatiliaji, serikali ilifanya kila inachoweza na imefanya vizuri kabisa kuanzia maandalizi, mkutano wenyewe na mafanikio yako njiani. Tatizo lilikuwa ni wananchi wenyewe hawakuwa masharp na hawakujiandaa inavyotakiwa..
Inaonyesha ni jinsi gani serikali hakujiandaa mapema zaidi kwenye swala la maonyesho kwani wanatupiana mpira kuwa kamati ya maandalizi haikuweka ratiba ya kutembelea maonyesho, na kama walipanga maonyesho yatakuwa mwisho wa mkutano kwanini kuwakamua washiriki kuanzia tarehe 28 may.
Lazima serikali ibebe lawama kwa hili, hii si mara ya kwanza summit kufanyika africa wangekwenda nchi nyingine ilipowahi kufanyika wakachukua experience ili wasirudie makosa yaliyofanyika huko.
Lazima serikali ibebe lawama kwa hili, hii si mara ya kwanza summit kufanyika africa wangekwenda nchi nyingine ilipowahi kufanyika wakachukua experience ili wasirudie makosa yaliyofanyika huko.
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...Nimeshiriki summits kadhaa za traders... nilichokiona kwa watanzania wenzangu badala ya kwenda na wakati au hata presentation facilities wanakwenda kama wasikilizaji, nimejitahidi sana kujaribu kuwaelimisha wajasiriamali wanaokua namna ya kutofautisha summits and trade fairs.
Nakuapia, pale wizara ya viwanda hili hawalijui na hawatakaa walijue kwani wameziba masikio na macho kwa boriti na vibanzi.
Jamani ktk mkutano mzima wa sullivan mbona sijasikia board of external trade wakijitutumua???? au sie hatuwekezi nje?? au ndo zile sabasaba only!!!!!?
Nakuapia, pale wizara ya viwanda hili hawalijui na hawatakaa walijue kwani wameziba masikio na macho kwa boriti na vibanzi.
Jamani ktk mkutano mzima wa sullivan mbona sijasikia board of external trade wakijitutumua???? au sie hatuwekezi nje?? au ndo zile sabasaba only!!!!!?
Mzee Mwanakijiji
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Msanii.... serikali ilikuwa imewaleta "wawekezaji na wafanyabiashara" ingawa hadi hivi sasa sijui ni makampuni mangapi ya Marekani yalikuwemo kwenye huo msafara na yalifanya nini wao kujitangaza kwa watanzania au kuonesha nia ya kuingia Ubia au kufanya biashara na Watanzania. Naona ndugu zetu wa wafanyabiashara wa Bongo waliofunga safari na kwenda Arusha na vikadi kadi vyao na kuchangamka kwa wanabebeshwa lawama lakini sijaona ni wapi hao kina Sullivan walikuwa tayari kutoa info za makampuni ya Kimarekani yaliyokuwamo kwenye msafara huo.
Katika maelekezo yake wizara ya Biashara walisema itaandaliwa orodha ya makampuni ya Kimarekani kwenye msafara huo ambayo itapewa kwa wafanyabiashara wa TAnzania je hilo lilitokea?
Katika maelekezo yake wizara ya Biashara walisema itaandaliwa orodha ya makampuni ya Kimarekani kwenye msafara huo ambayo itapewa kwa wafanyabiashara wa TAnzania je hilo lilitokea?
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Sullivan Foundation Balance Sheet of 2006.
http://www.thesullivanfoundation.or...uments/2006AUDITEDFINANCIALSTATEMENTS_000.pdf
https://www.jamiiforums.com/Sullivan Balance Sheet
http://www.thesullivanfoundation.or...uments/2006AUDITEDFINANCIALSTATEMENTS_000.pdf
https://www.jamiiforums.com/Sullivan Balance Sheet
DAR si LAMU
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..makampuni yao yalikuwa busy yanafanya tour operating.
DAR si LAMU
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..kwa haraka haraka,three things comes to mind.
..idadi ya waonyeshaji ni kubwa mno.
..coordination ili-lack.
..location ya maonyesho ilichangia pia,and here i'm talking about TASO.
DAR si LAMU
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..wasn't this a talk shop,and so no deals?
..nadhani kilichoongelewa ndio deal zaidi ya mambo mengine.
..tusiongopeane,pale hakukutegemewa kutoka kitu chochote in terms of concrete deals and such things.
DAR si LAMU
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..i don't think so!
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The list is long,
hebu fikiria how much the paid in total ndipo ujue walioandaa walivyofaidika na mitaji ya wazalishaji wadogo....
Compesation must be claimed. haya mambo ya kusema samahani halafu hakuna relief sio fair maana huwezi kukopa bank halafu ukaporwa njiani then ukarudi kusema samahani..... \Waandaaji must pay back these marginalized investors
hebu fikiria how much the paid in total ndipo ujue walioandaa walivyofaidika na mitaji ya wazalishaji wadogo....
Compesation must be claimed. haya mambo ya kusema samahani halafu hakuna relief sio fair maana huwezi kukopa bank halafu ukaporwa njiani then ukarudi kusema samahani..... \Waandaaji must pay back these marginalized investors
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Msanii;
Kama hizo hela za ku-compensate zingekuwa zinatoka kwenye mifuko ya kamati ya Leon H. Suillivan... Ningekuunga mkono.
Lakini kwa kuwa kwa vyovyote vile zitakuwa ni za PAYE zetu na kodi zingine mbalimbali... ambazo tumekubali tuchunwe na kukamuliwa kwa sababu ya huduma za Afya, Maji na Mabarabara..
Then my vote is a BIG NO!!! to your idea
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Mwkjj unaikumbuka ile harambee iliyoendeshwa usiku ule ? ajabu jamaa wakashindwa hata kufikia milion 100!!!! kweli hii ndiyo sulmit
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