Hull City Fans Say Kenya Is Heaven On Earth In Weeklong Country Tour

[Ian Cruz]

Yani wamefika tu kenya kwa afrika nzima na wameamua kua kenya ni heaven in earth! Kweli wanawafanya wakenya mafala. Sasa na wakenya wenyewe mnaikubali hiyo?

Nyie ni LDC so tulia hadi miaka 50 ndo mjitoe humo,category ya walotupwa

 

[kilam]

Nyie ni LDC so tulia hadi miaka 50 ndo mjitoe humo,category ya walotupwa

Mtu wa Kiambu naye eti ana jeuri ya kusema hivi

 

[wegman]

Mtu wa Kiambu naye eti ana jeuri ya kusema hivi

 

[kiboboso]

Wakenya kwa kulewa sifa hawajambo! Nahisi nyie hata mkiambiwa Kenya ndio nchi kubwa na tajiri Africa mtakubali na kuchekelea

 

[NorthJuu]

It's true u're ahead of us in Sheng instead of Kiswahili, Kenglish (a mixture of either Kijaluo/Kikuyu/Kikamba/Kalenjin/Kimasai,.. accents} instead of British English, Praising Whites, Frequent Maize hunger, Ali - shabaha most wanted, & bestiality to say the least.

 

[Iconoclastes]

Kenya debt = $40B

Tanzania debt = $19B

Hii mambo ya debt tumeongelea huko na sote tukakubaliana hivi:

a) Kenya debt is sustainable and justified.

b)Debt isnt a bad thing, as long as it is intended for worthy purpose and with viable repayment plans.

c)Tanzania wants to develop its infrastrure right? It wants the sgr; the oil pipeline; new, modern roads; revamp both iits sea and air ports, right? Does Tanzania have the money to accomplish all these, not mentoning provision of other social services suvh as education, health etc?

Borrowing is the only way to achieve all these. Even tge wealthiest countries borrow, and they borrow big.

So, stop behaving like a befuddled idiot, always talking about Kenyan debts as if it is a bad thing, the country is headed for a doom.

 

[Barbarosa]

Popote atakapoenda atasema hivyo hivyo au ulitegemea aseme Kenya is hell on earth? Hata akienda Sudani ya Kusini pia atatatfuta maneno mazuri ya kuwaambia watu wa huko!
Acheni kushawishika na kudanganyika kirahisi namna hiyo!

 

[Hoshea]

Hii mambo ya debt tumeongelea huko na sote tukakubaliana hivi:

a) Kenya debt is sustainable and justified.

b)Debt isnt a bad thing, as long as it is intended for worthy purpose and with viable repayment plans.

c)Tanzania wants to develop its infrastrure right? It wants the sgr; the oil pipeline; new, modern roads; revamp both iits sea and air ports, right? Does Tanzania have the money to accomplish all these, not mentoning provision of other social services suvh as education, health etc?

Borrowing is the only way to achieve all these. Even tge wealthiest countries borrow, and they borrow big.

So, stop behaving like a befuddled idiot, always talking about Kenyan debts as if it is a bad thing, the country is headed for a doom.

Lakini si ni wasomi wenyu ndio wanacriticize iyo debt venye ni kubwa.
Yani uki minus kwenye gdp ya respective country unakuta difference ni ndogo sana.

 

[Iconoclastes]

Lakini si ni wasomi wenyu ndio wanacriticize iyo debt venye ni kubwa.
Yani uki minus kwenye gdp ya respective country unakuta difference ni ndogo sana.

Wasomi gani? Ama unazungumzia wale wanaharakati wa siasa za upinzani.

Kama ni wazi ya kwamba wakati wa kujenga mbiundo mbinu ya kisasa ili kuboreshe uchumi umewadia, na hawa hawa pia wanakubali hivo basi liwe liwaalo. Hizo miundo mbinu zataweza kulipia haya madeni.

Kenya haina fedha ya ziada kutimiza hayo yote.

Kama serikali iliopo haingefanya chochote kutimiza haya malengi ya taifa, si pia wangelalamika na kusema hii ni serikali ovyo?
Haina umakini kwenye mikakati ya kimaendeleo.

Kama upinzani ungekuwa madarakani, ina maana hawangejenga mabarabara, reli, ports za kisasa eti wanaogopa madeni?

Na wewe Hoshea, hebu nieleze, serikali yenyu itatimizaje hayo malengo yoote ya kimaendeleo kama kujenga sgr, bomba ya gesi na mafuta, ports na viwanja vya ndege, mabarbara zote za kisasa? Ina fedha ya kutosha?

Basi hongereni!

 

[eddy yule msee]

Hii issue ya eti oo Kenya ni ya wazungu mara SA yamilikiwa na wazungu ni mbinu ya Bongoclats na Nigerians mtawalia kujiliwaza kwa vile wameachwa nyuma. Subiri UDSM dropout aje hapa kuni quote & reply.

 

[kilam]

Hii mambo ya debt tumeongelea huko na sote tukakubaliana hivi:

a) Kenya debt is sustainable and justified.

b)Debt isnt a bad thing, as long as it is intended for worthy purpose and with viable repayment plans.

c)Tanzania wants to develop its infrastrure right? It wants the sgr; the oil pipeline; new, modern roads; revamp both iits sea and air ports, right? Does Tanzania have the money to accomplish all these, not mentoning provision of other social services suvh as education, health etc?

Borrowing is the only way to achieve all these. Even tge wealthiest countries borrow, and they borrow big.

So, stop behaving like a befuddled idiot, always talking about Kenyan debts as if it is a bad thing, the country is headed for a doom.

But you keep on telling us that you're a developed country and Tanzania is poor.

 

[LightYagami]

Hao in wale makabaila wa aridhi huko Kenya wanafurahia mavuno. Wajinga ndio waliwao nao ni wapenda uzungu Kenyan.

Hizi propaganda nyinyi hutoa wapi?

 

[Ian Cruz]

Popote atakapoenda atasema hivyo hivyo au ulitegemea aseme Kenya is hell on earth? Hata akienda Sudani ya Kusini pia atatatfuta maneno mazuri ya kuwaambia watu wa huko!
Acheni kushawishika na kudanganyika kirahisi namna hiyo!

"Twajivunia kuishi uzunguni vile msemavyo,ni kweli kenya ni nchi ya wazungu,na hata vyote vilivyomo Kenya ni courtesy ya wazungu"

 

[Barbarosa]

"Twajivunia kuishi uzunguni vile msemavyo,ni kweli kenya ni nchi ya wazungu,na hata vyote vilivyomo Kenya ni courtesy ya wazungu"

Sawa lkn kama uko on the winning side, lkn ukiwa ule upande mwingine wa Pokoto sijui Karamoja maisha yanakuwa magumu!

 

[Ian Cruz]

Sawa lkn kama uko on the winning side, lkn ukiwa ule upande mwingine wa Pokoto sijui Karamoja maisha yanakuwa magumu!

"Ndio naliwaambia pendeni wazungu msije mkawafukuza,ona sasa vyote tulivyonavyo humu,highways,airports,towers,hospitals,shopping malls,seaports etc"

 

[Iconoclastes]

But you keep on telling us that you're a developed country and Tanzania is poor.

US has debt rate to total GDp of around 90%, UK 86%, Japan at a staggering 240%, the highest of any country in the world. But tell me if those countries arr poor? Why are they not rated into the junk status?

Tanzania debt rate to Gdp is 36%, that is excluding the bit that was written off by the lenders. And if it wants to fulfil its ambitions of constructing those new, mordern transport infrastructure it will have to borrow.

Kilam, it is simple rithmetics:

Remember u had to borrow more than 10bn$ to construct tge Bagamoyo port from the Chinese, (calling off that which would hav been a white elephant was a smart move btw) that was in 2015.

The Gdp of Tz in 2015 was $45bn. Now do the math. 10bn$ is was more than 22% of the total Tz Gdp! Add that to the 30% u had already accumulated.

But that was not the only project you were planning to undertake. There are still several other, ranging from transport, power generation and supply, info and comm etc. You will have to borrow for nearly all of these, and by the time you are done........read my lips: your debt levels will probably rise to 70% of your Gdp!

If u dont want the debt, u think it's a bad thing, just tell your govt that the roads are unnecesarry.

 

[Hoshea]

Wasomi gani? Ama unazungumzia wale wanaharakati wa siasa za upinzani.

Kama ni wazi ya kwamba wakati wa kujenga mbiundo mbinu ya kisasa ili kuboreshe uchumi umewadia, na hawa hawa pia wanakubali hivo basi liwe liwaalo. Hizo miundo mbinu zataweza kulipia haya madeni.

Kenya haina fedha ya ziada kutimiza hayo yote.

Kama serikali iliopo haingefanya chochote kutimiza haya malengi ya taifa, si pia wangelalamika na kusema hii ni serikali ovyo?
Haina umakini kwenye mikakati ya kimaendeleo.

Kama upinzani ungekuwa madarakani, ina maana hawangejenga mabarabara, reli, ports za kisasa eti wanaogopa madeni?

Na wewe Hoshea, hebu nieleze, serikali yenyu itatimizaje hayo malengo yoote ya kimaendeleo kama kujenga sgr, bomba ya gesi na mafuta, ports na viwanja vya ndege, mabarbara zote za kisasa? Ina fedha ya kutosha?

Basi hongereni!

Me sijui exaxctly serikali itatimizaje hiyo miradi ila nimekuwa nikiona ikipangwa na ikitimizwa. Lakini wewe usidharau critics wa huko kwenyu.
Kwani msomi hawezi kuwa mwanaharakati wa upinzani.

 

[Hoshea]

Hii issue ya eti oo Kenya ni ya wazungu mara SA yamilikiwa na wazungu ni mbinu ya Bongoclats na Nigerians mtawalia kujiliwaza kwa vile wameachwa nyuma. Subiri UDSM dropout aje hapa kuni quote & reply.

Tumeachwa nyuma? Mlituacha mbali sana, sasa gap inapunguzwa mdo mdo. Nigeria sasa hivi yupo mbele ya SA na ana accelerate.

 

[kilam]

US has debt rate to total GDp of around 90%, UK 86%, Japan at a staggering 240%, the highest of any country in the world. But tell me if those countries arr poor? Why are they not rated into the junk status?

Tanzania debt rate to Gdp is 36%, that is excluding the bit that was written off by the lenders. And if it wants to fulfil its ambitions of constructing those new, mordern transport infrastructure it will have to borrow.

Kilam, it is simple rithmetics:

Remember u had to borrow more than 10bn$ to construct tge Lamu port from the Chinese, that was in 2015.

The Gdp of Tz in 2015 was $45bn. Now do the math. 10bn$ is was more than 22% of the total Tz Gdp! Add that to the 30% u had already accumulated.

But that was not the only project you were planning to undertake. There are still several other, ranging from transport, power generation and supply, info and comm etc. You will have to borrow for nearly all of these, and by the time you are done........read my lips: your debt levels will probably rise to 70% of your Gdp!

If u dont want the debt, u think it's a bad thing, just tell your govt that the roads are unnecesarry.

We've a lot of power generation projects going on, by 2020 we'll have 800+ MW more. We have done and we're doing mega projects, we're not sleeping as you're trying to convince us.

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Please don't compare your economy with Japan's and US'. Growth rate of 5% for a poor country like Kenya is lousy.

 

[Iconoclastes]

Me sijui exaxctly serikali itatimizaje hiyo miradi ila nimekuwa nikiona ikipangwa na ikitimizwa. Lakini wewe usidharau critics wa huko kwenyu.
Kwani msomi hawezi kuwa mwanaharakati wa upinzani.

Kuna wale critics ambao nakubaliana nao, maoni yao ni sawa. Km, wale wanaosema ya kwamba Uganda na Rwanda zikiamua kuachana na huu mradi wa sgr ya Kenya na badala yake kuamua kuungana na ule wa Tz, basi hapo huenda ikajipata taabani katika kuweza kulipa haya madeni kwa mda uliowekwa.

Lakini wale wanaolalamika tu ya kwamba madeni yameongezeka na huku upande mwingine wanasema ati barabara na reli na sijui nini yako katika hali mbaya na serikali haitimizi wajibu wake.....hawa ni watu wa kupuuziliwa mbali.
Kwanini wasiseme basi ati hii miradi ya miundo mbinu hayafai? Ni wangapi wanaosema hivyo?

Nia ya hawa macritics ni kutia hofu mioyoni mwa wananchi eti wana deni nyingi mno, na hata kudai ya kwamba hii deni yote ni kwa manufaa ya watu wachache serikalini. Sasa yule kwa wale wananchi wasio na umakini watachukulia hii serikali ni wabadhirifu. Na huo ndio nia ya hii propaganda.