Gordon Brown sacrifices himself and promises to quit as PM in last-ditch bid | JamiiForums | The Home of Great Thinkers

Dismiss Notice
You are browsing this site as a guest. It takes 2 minutes to CREATE AN ACCOUNT and less than 1 minute to LOGIN

Gordon Brown sacrifices himself and promises to quit as PM in last-ditch bid

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by Sonara, May 10, 2010.

  1. Sonara

    Sonara JF-Expert Member

    May 10, 2010
    Joined: Oct 2, 2008
    Messages: 730
    Likes Received: 3
    Trophy Points: 35
    BREAKING NEWS: Brown sacrifices himself and promises to quit as PM in last-ditch bid to do deal with Lib Dems

    Last updated at 5:35 PM on 10th May 2010 Brown declares he will stand down as Labour leader
    • He'll stay as PM until leadership contest concludes
    • Labour now in formal talks with Lib Dems over deal
    • Cameron was on brink of power until Clegg met his MPs
    Gordon Brown today sacrificed himself in a last-ditch attempt to keep Labour in power.

    In a dramatic statement on the steps of Downing Street, the Prime Minister announced he was standing down as Labour leader and calling on the party to launch a leadership election.
    He said he would not stand again and wanted a new leader to be in place in time for the autumn party conference, leaving him as a caretaker Premier for several months.

    The extraordinary move is a desperate attempt by Labour to block a coalition deal between the Tories and the Lib Dems, which just hours ago looked imminent.
    Mr Brown revealed Labour is now pressing ahead with 'formal discussions' of its own with the Lib Dems following a request by Nick Clegg this afternoon.
    The extraordinary development came after two cloak-and-dagger meetings between Mr Clegg and Mr Brown in the last 24 hours. The Cabinet will meet tonight as a formal negotiation process is set up.

    The Prime Minister said: 'The reason that we have a hung parliament is that no single party and no single leader was able to win the full support of the country.
    'As leader of my party, I must accept that as a judgment on me. I therefore intend to ask the Labour Party to set in train the processes needed for its own leadership election.
    'I would hope that it would be completed in time for the new leader to be in post by the time of the Labour Party conference. I will play no part in that contest, I will back no individual candidate.'

    [​IMG] He's off: Gordon Brown outside Downing Street today where he said he was quitting as Labour leader

    Britain is now facing the possibility of being saddled with another unelected Prime Minister in the same way as the cosy deal that saw Mr Brown take over from Tony Blair three years ago.
    It came after David Cameron's hopes of seizing power were dramatically stalled when the Lib Dems demanded further concessions and made clear they could still side with Labour.
    Con-Lib talks were plunged into doubt after leader Nick Clegg spent two-and-a-half hours with his parliamentary party, who made a series of fresh demands to put to the Tories.

    David Laws, one of the Lib Dem negotiating team, said the party wanted more 'clarification' on education funding, fairer taxes and its key aim of voting reform.
    The development came shortly before Mr Cameron was due to address his own backbenchers, when he will face a battle to convince Tory Right-wing of the benefits of an alliance.
    Senior Lib Dems predicted an agreement was unlikely by the end of the day but possibly by the end of the week.
    This risks turmoil on the markets which - although currently buoyed by the Greek bailout agreed in Europe - will be unlikely to approve of the current impasse stretching out much longer.
    And it will raise the prospect of Mr Cameron choosing to go it alone and attempting to run a minority government then call another general election before the year is out.

    Mr Laws said the parliamentary party had agreed forming a 'strong stable government in the national interest' with reducing the deficit at it heart was the top priority.

    But although they regarded proposals discussed with the Tories as 'good progress', they demanded 'clarification' about education funding, fairer taxes and the party's key aim of voting reform.

    'The parliamentary party has also agreed that the leader will continue to listen to representations that are coming from the leader of the Labour Party,' he said.

    He added: 'We are very, very conscious of the need to make these decisions quickly but we also want to be sure we get these matters right'
    [​IMG] Dejected: Gordon Brown and Lord Mandelson leaving Downing Street from the rear entrance this morning

    The declaration leaves Mr Brown as a 'squatter' in Number Ten and will provide Labour a glimmer of hope that it could yet stay in power.

    It came hours after the Prime Minister held his second summit with Nick Clegg in 24 hours. After first talking to senior lieutenants Ed Balls and Harriet Harman, he left with Lord Mandelson.

    Slumped in his seat with his eyes downcast, he looked dejected as they slipped away from the back of Downing Street. Within an hour, he was back and had a face like thunder as he went inside.
    Momentum had seemed to be building behind a Con-Lib belt-tightening economic plan to shore up international confidence in Britain from the word go today.
    Talks resumed at 10am but after just 90 minutes, William Hague emerged to say there had been 'further progress' and headed off to report back to David Cameron.
    Moments later, the Lib Dem team also left the Cabinet Office, declared the two sides are 'working well together' and rushed to meet with their leader Nick Clegg to discuss the latest developments.
    Mr Cameron then moved the meeting of his shadow cabinet forward by two hours to 2pm.

    [​IMG] Face like thunder: Gordon Brown returning back to Downing Street after a second meeting with Nick Clegg

    Europe's bailout of Greece saw the markets soar - giving negotiators in Whitehall valuable breathing space as they attempt to thrash out a deal that will determine Britain's future.
    The fact that the latest Tory-Lib Dem summit ended after just an hour-and-a-half was being taken as an indication that a broad agreement may already be in place.

    At their meeting, Mr Brown is said to have been warning Mr Clegg he cannot rely on the Tories to help solve the economic crisis gripping Europe because the party is so Eurosceptic.
    Lord Mandelson's presence at his side for the meeting is yet more proof that he is controlling moves inside the Labour camp as it contemplates moving into opposition.

    Mr Clegg, under pressure from his anti-Tory Left wing, is believed to have given himself another 24 hours to agree a deal before telling the Tories to form a minority government instead.
    The Tory leader and Nick Clegg spoke for 30 minutes first thing today in a 'positive and constructive' exchange then met face-to-face later in the morning.

    Mr Cameron, as he left home and headed to Westminster for what could be his last few hours before becoming Prime Minister, was upbeat but tight-lipped. 'I am always positive,' he said.
    The Lib Dem leader, outside his home shortly afterwards, stressed that both sides are working 'flat out and round-the-clock' to forge a pact and get a new government in place.

    'I don't think a prolonged period of uncertainty is a good thing. That's why we want to arrive at a decision as soon as possible,' he said.
    'But I hope people equally understand that it would be better to get the decision right rather than rushing into something which won't stand the test of time.'
    'I hope people will bear with us a little bit longer', he added, as he again reiterated that his key priorities are stabilising the economy, tax, schools and political reform.
    Both leaders face a battle to sell any deal to their grassroots. Mr Clegg is still with his party after arriving at the Commons meeting at around 1.30pm. The Lib Dem Federal Executive will then gather at 5pm.
    Mr Cameron, still with his shadow Cabinet, is set to address the parliamentary party - known as the 1922 Committee - at 6pm.
    The two teams of negotiators spent more than six-and-a-half hours in discussions yesterday as they worked to end the political paralysis facing Britain following the uncertain General Election result.
    William Hague, for the Tories, insisted it was all 'going well' as he arrived for renewed talks shortly before 10am this morning.

    'We're meeting now to discuss some specific ideas and proposals. We're optimistic about making further progress very soon,' he said on the steps of the Cabinet Office.
    Before midday, both teams headed to their respective headquarters to fill in their leaders on the latest - sparking bizarre scenes as they raced across Westminster followed by hordes of reporters.

    Mr Hague said: 'We have made further progress in our meeting with the Liberal Democrats this morning. We are now going to report back to David Cameron again, and have meetings with our parliamentary colleagues. The negotiating team are working really well together.'
    Mr Clegg's chief of staff Danny Alexander gave a virtually identical statement minutes later.

    'We are working well together. Good further progress has been made and I'm now going to report on that to Nick Clegg and my parliamentary colleagues,' he said.
    [​IMG] Talks: William Hague, Oliver Letwin and George Osborne arriving for the latest negotiations

    [​IMG] New deal? Lib Dems Danny Alexander, Chris Huhne and David Laws outside the Cabinet Office

    So far, the markets - buoyed by EU chiefs finally agreeing the Greek bailout late last night - seem happy to give the parties more time.
    The FTSE-100, which saw losses of £35billion on Friday after the election returned a hung parliament, soared by more than 200 points or almost 5 per cent after a crunch European summit finally bore fruit.

    But if the Con-Lib negotiations falter, and the political chaos lasts more than another couple of days, there could be fresh investor panic.

    And although the Greek deal is positive in terms of market turmoil, it throws up the thorny issue of the European Union on which the Tories and Lib Dems have wildly differing stances.

  2. Ab-Titchaz

    Ab-Titchaz Content Manager Staff Member

    May 10, 2010
    Joined: Jan 30, 2008
    Messages: 14,702
    Likes Received: 36
    Trophy Points: 135
    I dont know where this thing is going in terms of the British political future.Let me have a
    'wait and see' attitude. Uingereza kumekua tata na hii kura.
  3. K

    Koba JF-Expert Member

    May 10, 2010
    Joined: Jul 3, 2007
    Messages: 6,144
    Likes Received: 495
    Trophy Points: 180
    seems labour watafanikiwa kupiga deal na hao liberal kuweka serikali yao,still wanahitaji vyama vingine maana hawana majority hata wakiungana.
  4. Nemesis

    Nemesis JF-Expert Member

    May 10, 2010
    Joined: Feb 13, 2008
    Messages: 3,841
    Likes Received: 1,101
    Trophy Points: 280
    Ilikuwa ni ngumu kwa lib demos kukubaliana na conservatives, since when liberals and conservatives wakawa na mawazo sawa?

    Ila hii ni mbaya sana, aliyeshinda anabaki kuwa mpinzani.
  5. Ab-Titchaz

    Ab-Titchaz Content Manager Staff Member

    May 10, 2010
    Joined: Jan 30, 2008
    Messages: 14,702
    Likes Received: 36
    Trophy Points: 135
    Very true. Nd'o maana nasema hapa kuna tungo tata.
    Democracy is not always perfect my friends.
  6. Masanilo

    Masanilo JF-Expert Member

    May 10, 2010
    Joined: Oct 2, 2007
    Messages: 22,303
    Likes Received: 168
    Trophy Points: 160
    Labour has lost the election and not Brown ! Hawa waingereza demokrasia inawachanganya, they are now trying to make coalition of loosers Lib Dem and labour, I believe that a Lib-Lab coalition collapses in months.....!
  7. Masanilo

    Masanilo JF-Expert Member

    May 10, 2010
    Joined: Oct 2, 2007
    Messages: 22,303
    Likes Received: 168
    Trophy Points: 160
    There's danger of another election in UK as soon as Labour have a new leader. Gordon Brown stood for Labour and lost, so how can Labour even expect to form a new government with a new leader? it would just be wrong.

    Lib waungane na Tories and David Cameron ahamie 10 Downing St.
  8. Mtazamaji

    Mtazamaji JF-Expert Member

    May 11, 2010
    Joined: Feb 29, 2008
    Messages: 5,972
    Likes Received: 33
    Trophy Points: 0
    Uk ina mfumo tofauti wa kimedemokrasia kwa mujibu wao wenyewe. Mfumo huu ungekuwa wa nchi nyingine hasa za afrika ungenyooshewa kidole. Wanachi wanachagua wabunge tu. PM hapigiwi kura na wanachi. Chama kilichoshinda kndio kinachagua nani ashike funguo za U PM. inachekesha sana

    Kumbe hata PM Gordon brown aliingia ofisi kwa mlango wa nyuma. Wananchi wa UK wakati wanaiweka chama cha labour madarakani hawakujua kama Gordon brown atakuwa PM wao. Wao wanasema ni Parliamentarian System

    Tena sio mara ya kwanza imetokea uko nyuma chenye less than 25% ya votes kushika ufunguo wa kuongoza chini.
  9. N

    Nyauba JF-Expert Member

    May 11, 2010
    Joined: Jul 10, 2008
    Messages: 1,098
    Likes Received: 6
    Trophy Points: 135
    Brown kuachia uongozi wa chama chake, kupatikana kiongozi mwingine wa labour (hopefully David Milband) na Lib -Cons deal kushindikana na Cons kuunda minority govt then before end of the year uchaguzi na New labour leader kuchaguliwa PM itawezekana.

    Hapa kwa sasa Labour wanatumia uadui kati ya Lib Na Cons katika sera zao ili wanufaikee tena kuiongoza UK before end of the year. Wao wakifanya michezo hiyo sio rafu wala fujo kwani ndo wakongwe wa demokrasia ila sisi (Afrika) utashangaa vidole na kauli nyingi za kulaumu..

    Hung parliament kwao ni drama zaidi ya kuchezaa kisiasa.
  10. Masikini_Jeuri

    Masikini_Jeuri JF-Expert Member

    May 11, 2010
    Joined: Jan 19, 2010
    Messages: 6,809
    Likes Received: 364
    Trophy Points: 180
    hebu tupeni darsa ya hizi siasa za kwa Mama Malkia
  11. Pascal Mayalla

    Pascal Mayalla JF-Expert Member

    May 11, 2010
    Joined: Sep 22, 2008
    Messages: 24,576
    Likes Received: 18,548
    Trophy Points: 280
    No Masa, its not wrong, huko kwenye mtindo wa perliamentarians, wananchi wanachagua wabunge tuu, chama chenye wabunge wengi ndicho kinachagua serikali, kiongozi wa chama husika ndio anakuwa PM. Mtindo huu pia uko India, Israel, na mataifa mengi yaliyotawaliwa na Muingereza, Sisi tulitakiwa kuwa hivyo baada ya uhuru ile 1961, ila 1962 tukatangaza kuwa Jamuhuri, hivyo kuachana na perliamentary system na kuingia hii ya sasa ya presidential.

    Alichofanya Brown ni sahihi, kitendo tuu cha chama tawala kushindwa kutimiza idadi, ni defeat enough, amekubali kuwajibika ameshindwa, hivyo amejiuzulu ili kutoa nafasi kwa Lib kumaliza tofauti zao na Labour maana Lib na Tory ni paka na panya.

    Kwa vile aliyeboronga ni Brown, kakubali yaishe, na ataingia Milibard aliyekuwa foreign yao. Mazungumzo na yatafanikiwa, Brown atakuwa caretaker PM kusubiri uchaguzi wa Labour itoe PM mpya na kama ni Miliband, then Torry wasubiri miaka sijui 6/8 mingine!.

    Tory ni mahafidhina wakubwa, mnaweza kumfurahia Cameron ila mkaja shangaa hata bajeti ya BBC Afrika wakaipiga panga, what for?. Hivi ndivyo idhaa za Kiswahili za Redio Moscow, All India Radio, NHK Japan zilivyojifia, bajeti za VOA na DW Radio kwa Afrika ni finyu, hivyo tegemeo la habari moto moto toka Afrika limebakia na BBC, Toty wakiingia ni panga na mashaka.
  12. Shapu

    Shapu JF-Expert Member

    May 11, 2010
    Joined: Jan 17, 2008
    Messages: 1,918
    Likes Received: 240
    Trophy Points: 160
    Thanks for the update. Wewe lazima uwe mwana habari manake ulivyoonyesha concern kwenye BBC budget nikahisi hivyo.

    KILITIME JF-Expert Member

    May 11, 2010
    Joined: Nov 17, 2009
    Messages: 267
    Likes Received: 1
    Trophy Points: 35
    Good move by Brown!
  14. Mtazamaji

    Mtazamaji JF-Expert Member

    May 11, 2010
    Joined: Feb 29, 2008
    Messages: 5,972
    Likes Received: 33
    Trophy Points: 0
    Siasa za UK ni tata ingekuwa ni nchi masikini mhh. UK = England+ Scotland+ Ireland + Wales +?

    Queen is above politics and pilitician but outside politics utata mwingine

    hapo tu ni utata. Bora ya muungano wa Tanganyika na zenj lakini ukifuatilia zaidi utagundua muungano wa UK unawaka moto na si kufuka moshi kama wa kwetu Tz . Kuna waasi wa IRA wana jeshi lao wanatega mabomu kila siku. England inazingangania hizi nchi kwenye muungano wakati hizi nchi zinataka ziwe huru. katika level ya kwanza hizi nchi zina First ministwer/ Waziri kiongozi wao

    Scotland wamegundua wana mafuta juzi juzi kama zenj vile. washaanza kujitangazi watakuwa na neema kama Norway na wamesema mapato ya mafuta hayataingia hazina uu ya UK. Movie hii ni kama ya tanganyika na zenj

    Kuna issue za kichumi Bristish people wanaonekana wanalamika kuwa wenzao wa scotland ,wales wananeemeka wakati wao wanaumia. Gordon brown amekuwa na maadui wengi hata ndani ya chama chake sababu mojawapo pia ni kuwa ni Mscotland na sio British.

    Chama cha conservative kilichpata kura nyingi na wabunge wengi kina mbunge 1ja nadhani scotland. Issue hii inafanana na CCM kuw ana wabunge wengi yet hawana kiti cha ubunge pemba> wascotalnd washaanza kuhoji kama kiongozi atakuwa PM wa UK hawezi kuwa na mamlaka Scotland . Utata mwingine

    Ukweli hata wao wanao ukabila kwa njia ya pekee. Tunachoweza kujifunza hapa ni kuwa pamoja na matatizo waliyonayo bado wanayatatua kwa njia ya kidiplomasia, sheria na hoja na si kwa mabavu.

    Leo ndio nimegundua kumbe Gordon brown jicho lake moja halifanyi kazi. alipata ajali kwenye mchezo wa rugby. Utaalamu wa matibabu sio rahisi kujua kwa kumuoana
  15. mawazotu

    mawazotu Senior Member

    May 11, 2010
    Joined: Apr 27, 2010
    Messages: 148
    Likes Received: 5
    Trophy Points: 35
    A close ally of Gordon Brown has suggested to the BBC that Labour are close to conceding defeat in their efforts to do a deal to stay in power.
    The BBC's Nick Robinson said he was told the Lib Dems had decided to back the Tories and Labour would regroup as the only "progressive" party.
    It would clear the way for a Lib Dem and Tory deal which would see David Cameron becoming prime minister.
    The Lib Dems and Conservative teams are still in talks at the Cabinet Office.
    They have been negotiating for four days, after the UK general election resulted in a hung parliament.
    Mr Cameron, Conservative leader, met Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg in private for an hour earlier on Tuesday.
    The BBC's political editor said Labour sources said the party were preparing for the possibility that Gordon Brown could resign on Tuesday evening - if Mr Clegg says there is no chance of an agreement with Labour, or that his party's talks with the Tories have been successful.

    siasa za wakuu mwisho wa mambo i dnt knw wht will happen next but all in all the QUEEN as the last say .