Bei ya mafuta: TRA, TBS, TPA, EWURA ndio chanzo: Pata ukweli hapa

[Mapujds]

Wamiliki wa vituo vya mafuta ndiyo haohao wabunge na mawari,so kesi ya nyani unampa tumbili.hakuna serikali tz

 

[VoiceOfReason]

alternatives,go with time and build energy efficient houses,use energy efficient equipments,modernise and publicise public transport in big cities,reduce traffic,conserve environment....etc.
Thats the kind of Tanzanian that I am,not the corrupt free market kind!!

Mkuu hio ni best case scenario na sio Tanzania tu duniani tukiweza kupata efficient energy and at a lower price hii itakuwa "A Giant Step for Mankind)... lakini tatizo mpaka sasa all alternatives are still more expensive than usage of oil

 

[Mdondoaji]

Hawezi kushusha kwa sababu demand inawaruhusu kuuza kwa bei kubwa, suluhisho ni kuongeza supply (competition) ili bei iende chini.

Kwa mfano kama kweli mnaamini kuwa wauza mafuta wanauza kwa bei ambayo ni juu sana kuliko costs zao basi hii ni business opportunity kwenu, watu wajipange waingie kwenye soko la mafuta undercut wauzaji wa sasa kwa kuuza kwa bei ya chini zaidi, hii itavutia wateja kwako na kuwalazimu wauzaji wengine kushasha bei. Serikali iondoe vikwazo feki kwenye kuanzisha biashara hizi.

Hii ndo soko linavyofanya kazi, sio kwa serikali ambayo haijawahi kufanya biashara yoyote kwa mafanikio kuanza kupanga bei, motokeo yake ndo haya.

Biashara ni chombo cha kumaximize returns, kuwaita wafanya biashara greedy kwa vile wanatafuta profits sio sahihi, kutegeme mfanya biashara alete "uzalendo" kwenye biasahra yake ni mawazo potofu.

Suluhisho sio kuongeza supply bali kuwepo na body inasimamia biashara hii (Regulatory Authority) kama itakuwa EWURA au itaundwa nyengine but iwe na meno ya kutosha kuhakikisha inamlinda muuzaji na mnunuzi. Kuhusu supply nakupinga ndugu kwasababu ninao mfano halisi.

Unajua kilichomkuta Bakhressa na kampuni yake ya kuuza mafuta wakati crisis ya mafuta zanzibar? Bakhressa alianzisha kampuni ya kuuza mafuta na akawa anauza mafuta bei rahisi kama unavyopropose.

Kilichotokea ni tactics za kimafioso dhidi ya bakhressa na shelli zake mwishoe akasilimu amri. Wenye vituo vya mafuta wengi either wanaurafiki wa karibu na viongozi au ni viongozi hao hao na hivyo basi wanakajiinfluence humo ndani.

Unapodai mie mjasiriamali nianzishe biashara hiyo kitakachotokea nitaanzisha baada ya miezi tisa biashara itakufa kwani vitaanza visa vya mara mafuta yako hayajafikia viwango na hivyo kulipa mafaini ya ajabu, mara silipi kodi nitalipa faini, mafa viwango vya usalama sio sahihi (visa vyote vinatokea katika lile li cartel lao) matokeo biashara itanishinda.

Wazungu wanasema if you cannot beat them join them ndio alichokifanya bakhressa na matokeo yake tutarudi kule kule tulikotokea mwanzo. Dawa ya hili iwepo na regulatory authority kuwasimamia hawa jamaa venginevyo hakutataluka kitu hapa.

 

[VoiceOfReason]

Suluhisho sio kuongeza supply bali kuwepo na body inasimamia biashara hii (Regulatory Authority) kama itakuwa EWURA au itaundwa nyengine but iwe na meno ya kutosha kuhakikisha inamlinda muuzaji na mnunuzi. Kuhusu supply nakupinga ndugu kwasababu ninao mfano halisi.

Mkuu nimejaribu hapa kuonyesha kwamba "Price Control has and will Never Work)... na this is how History tells us Free Market is the Answear

https://www.jamiiforums.com/business-and-economic-forum/162662-upangaji-bei-price-control-%3B-has-it-and-can-it-ever-work.html#post2340327

 

[VoiceOfReason]

Suluhisho sio kuongeza supply bali kuwepo na body inasimamia biashara hii (Regulatory Authority) kama itakuwa EWURA au itaundwa nyengine but iwe na meno ya kutosha kuhakikisha inamlinda muuzaji na mnunuzi. Kuhusu supply nakupinga ndugu kwasababu ninao mfano halisi.

Unajua kilichomkuta Bakhressa na kampuni yake ya kuuza mafuta wakati crisis ya mafuta zanzibar? Bakhressa alianzisha kampuni ya kuuza mafuta na akawa anauza mafuta bei rahisi kama unavyopropose. Kilichotokea ni tactics za kimafioso dhidi ya bakhressa na shelli zake mwishoe akasilimu.

Kwahiyo mkuu tatizo sio kwamba Competition haifai ni kwamba hii market ya mafuta is not that free, cha kufanya ni kuhakikisha inakuwa free na watu wengi wanaingia kwenye biashara (kama hao mafia wapo unajuaje kama watashindwa kuingilia hiyo regulatory authority na kuifanya ifanye kazi at their advantage)

 

[mgt software]

mhh ninapita tu

 

[Ibrah]

Wadau, suala la mgomo wa wauza mafuta bado ni kizungumkuti. WaTz wengi, Wabunge na Serikali wanawalaumu wauza mafuta. Hata hivyo kwa kiasi fulani wanaonewa maana gharama za kuendesha vituo vya kuuza mafuta zimepanda kutokana na kutumia genereta kusukuma pump za mafuta kwa siku nzima kutokana na kukosekana kwa umeme.

Kabla ya kuwalaumu na kuwatisha, ni vema Serikali itimize wajibu wake kwa jamii kwa kuondoa mgao wa umeme.

 

[ikhwan safaa]

why should I trust serikali ilituongopea on BOT na EPA na RICHMOND?

BETWEEN THE TWO....

I will always trust WAFANYABIASHARA WA MAFUATA over SERIKALI LEGE LEGE

 

[MOMA]

Tanzania zaidi ya uijuavyo

 

[WATANABE]

Everybody knows how lucrative oil bussiness is.
Theres no free market in oil bussiness,different from candy bussiness.
The government has been importing oil for years,refine,supply Zambia....plus other missions.
Hopefully with COPEC,the government will import.We need to organise ourselves and cut oil consumption by 1/3 in 10 years.
I expected to hear this from mjengoni,but well.....them people are so shallow.
May be me and you can PM each other and try to work on a legislation or any thing that may help reduciung our oil consumption.We need to find alternatives,go with time and build energy efficient houses,use energy efficient equipments,modernise and publicise public transport in big cities,reduce traffic,conserve environment....etc.
Thats the kind of Tanzanian that I am,not the corrupt free market kind!!

I understand that COPEC is a government entity. I can assure that with the current level of ufisadi and impunity, private importers will cease to import from oil from the gulf and transfer to their deports oil imported from our taxes.

 

[Mdondoaji]

Mkuu UK bei zimeshuka sababu ya competition kuna mpaka supermarkets (Asda, Tesco) wameingia katika hii biashara na wao kila siku wapo radhi washushe bei kuliko mwenzake ili tu kuvutia watu waende kwenye supermarkets zao na sio kwingine.. (leo hii akibaki muuzaji mmoja aw mafuta UK utaona jinsi prices zitakavyopanda kwa kasi)

Mkuu,

Mfano UK wana regulatory body ambayo ni independent comission kama :-
a. Ofgem - Gas and electricity .
b. Department of Transport.

US wana regulatory body hizi:-
a. Federal Energy Regulatory commission.
b. Commodities Future Trading Commision.
c. Consumer Protection Agency.

Tanzania.
a. EWURA isiyo na nguvu wala meno ya kuwadhibiti wauzaji.

 

[Kang]

Suluhisho sio kuongeza supply bali kuwepo na body inasimamia biashara hii (Regulatory Authority) kama itakuwa EWURA au itaundwa nyengine but iwe na meno ya kutosha kuhakikisha inamlinda muuzaji na mnunuzi. Kuhusu supply nakupinga ndugu kwasababu ninao mfano halisi.

Unajua kilichomkuta Bakhressa na kampuni yake ya kuuza mafuta wakati crisis ya mafuta zanzibar? Bakhressa alianzisha kampuni ya kuuza mafuta na akawa anauza mafuta bei rahisi kama unavyopropose. Kilichotokea ni tactics za kimafioso dhidi ya bakhressa na shelli zake mwishoe akasilimu amri. Wenye vituo vya mafuta wengi either wanaurafiki wa karibu na viongozi au ni viongozi hao hao na hivyo basi wanakajiinfluence humo ndani. Unapodai mie mjasiriamali nianzishe biashara hiyo kitakachotokea nitaanzisha baada ya miezi tisa biashara itakufa kwani vitaanza visa vya mara mafuta yako hayajafikia viwango na hivyo kulipa mafaini ya ajabu, mara silipi kodi nitalipa faini, mafa viwango vya usalama sio sahihi (visa vyote vinatokea katika lile li cartel lao) matokeo biashara itanishinda. Wazungu wanasema if you cannot beat them join them ndio alichokifanya bakhressa na matokeo yake tutarudi kule kule tulikotokea mwanzo. Dawa ya hili iwepo na regulatory authority kuwasimamia hawa jamaa venginevyo hakutataluka kitu hapa.

Sasa ndo kazi ya serikali kuondoa hizo cartel, ndo vikwazo feki nanavyosema mimi, serikali isikwepe wajibu wake kwenye hilo.

Regulatory authority haitasaidia kitu kama hao regulators ndo mafia wenyewe. Kwa kifupi tumefika hapa kwa sababu ya conflicts of interest za viongozi na vyama vyetu na rushwa, hawawezi kuregulate chochote waki wana mikono yao mfukoni kwa wafanyabiashara.

 

[ikhwan safaa]

By Neng'uli
RealMan always think twice, nifanye real thing vipi wakati sina mzigo ulioingia after EWURA NA MBWEMBWE ZAO?
Nimekupa cost element zote, na bado kukutumia Vifungu vya Acts mbalimbali zinazoelezea penalties zake na due dates zake,

Ndugu zangu mkumbuke kuwa Kila kitu ambacho mfanyabiashara anatozwa lazima aingize kwenye bei hiyo ya mafuta, serikali ipunguze kodi za ajabu tupate unafuu wa maisha, hata mimi sijawahi wekewa mafuta bure na siku zote hizi ninazofanya costing nayaona kama ya mkwe vile,


Hata rushwa wanazochukua jamaa wa Tanzania Ports authority ili wairuhusu meli kushusha mzigo nazo tunaingiza humo kwenye bei ya mafuta,
hao EWURA wanavijana wao wanashinda huku kwenye matanki yamafuta kujifanya wanakagua nao walarushwa kama siafu, sometimes watu wanatoa rushwa kuepukana na kupoteza time,
Kuna Port Accountant pale, mara lete Open cheque, mara lete dola, mara nataka banker's cheque mara sitaki ya NBC na NMB zinachelewa nataka za Citibank,
all this time meli imepark tuu, yeye anafanya anasa ili uumpe rushwa,

Nyie watu msiongee barabarani njoeni huku depot muuone hali halisi,


Wangapi wanaagiza magari ths 5,000,000 wanaishia kulipa mpaka 12,000,000 pale bandarini na bado redio na kila kitu wananyofoa

people acheni siasa kwenye biashara,

lakini still viichwa maji wa JF watakuambia serikali iko right!

 

[Edson]

neng'uli ana point ya msingi.......kodi ni nyigi sana wapunguze hizo kodi ili walau maisha yawe nafuu....nimeshidwa kusafiri kwa gari langu kisa mafuta maana vituo vingi wanauza mafuta mwishi tsh.30000/=.

 

[Mdondoaji]

Mkuu nimejaribu hapa kuonyesha kwamba "Price Control has and will Never Work)... na this is how History tells us Free Market is the Answear

https://www.jamiiforums.com/business-and-economic-forum/162662-upangaji-bei-price-control-%3B-has-it-and-can-it-ever-work.html#post2340327

Mkuu,

Even economist wameona kuwa kuna tatizo na free market economy, recent banking crisis na economic recession imewastua kuwa solution sio free market but kuwepo na some form of regulation kwenye soko ili kuzuia greedy suppliers and speculators kuharibu mwenendo wa soko mie nachokizungumzia kuwepo na msimamizi wa wauzaji na wanunuzi ili kuwepo na fairness and competition.

 

[ikhwan safaa]

Sasa ndo kazi ya serikali kuondoa hizo cartel, ndo vikwazo feki nanavyosema mimi, serikali isikwepe wajibu wake kwenye hilo.

Regulatory authority haitasaidia kitu kama hao regulators ndo mafia wenyewe. Kwa kifupi tumefika hapa kwa sababu ya conflicts of interest za viongozi na vyama vyetu na rushwa, hawawezi kuregulate chochote waki wana mikono yao mfukoni kwa wafanyabiashara.

hivi ushajaribu kutoa gari au ontena bandari ya Dar?

hivi uanjua kwa nini Emirates inayokwenda Dubai siku ya Al Hamis na Ijumaa huwa inajaa wafanyakazi wa TRA?

Hivi unajua kwa nini watu hupitisha mizigo yao Mombasa badala ya Dar?

Hivi leo ume count kule baharini kuna meli ngapi zinasubiri kuingia Dar ?

Hivi unaamini serikali inaposema eti meli hukaa baharini siku 5 tuu?

 

[ikhwan safaa]

Mkuu,

Even economist wameona kuwa kuna tatizo na free market economy, recent banking crisis na economic recession imewastua kuwa solution sio free market but kuwepo na some form of regulation kwenye soko ili kuzuia greedy suppliers and speculators kuharibu mwenendo wa soko mie nachokizungumzia kuwepo na msimamizi wa wauzaji na wanunuzi ili kuwepo na fairness and competition.

The issue hapa ni kuwa its tougher to do business in Tanzania than any country in East Africa

hampendi transparency na mnapenda rushwa sasa watu wakishatoa rushwa unategemea watarejesha vipi pesa zao?

 

[Mdondoaji]

hivi ushajaribu kutoa gari au ontena bandari ya Dar?

hivi uanjua kwa nini Emirates inayokwenda Dubai siku ya Al Hamis na Ijumaa huwa inajaa wafanyakazi wa TRA?

Hivi unajua kwa nini watu hupitisha mizigo yao Mombasa badala ya Dar?

Hivi leo ume count kule baharini kuna meli ngapi zinasubiri kuingia Dar ?

Hivi unaamini serikali inaposema eti meli hukaa baharini siku 5 tuu?

Jibu ni rushwa imekithiri na lukuki za kodi pale bandarini Dar, unecessary bureaucracy. Mie nimeacha siku nyingi kutumia bandari hiyo kwasababu kwanza kuna wezi kibao, pili mzigo wa kodi na tatu rushwa kutoka kwa wafanyakazi wa TRA.

Ni afadhali nitumie bandari ya Mombasa au Zanzibar ijapokuwa zanzibar wameanza kupapiga vita kwasababu kunawaharibi mirija yao ya ufisadi jamaa wa TRA ila hawafai.

 

[Kang]

hivi ushajaribu kutoa gari au ontena bandari ya Dar?

hivi uanjua kwa nini Emirates inayokwenda Dubai siku ya Al Hamis na Ijumaa huwa inajaa wafanyakazi wa TRA?

Hivi unajua kwa nini watu hupitisha mizigo yao Mombasa badala ya Dar?

Hivi leo ume count kule baharini kuna meli ngapi zinasubiri kuingia Dar ?

Hivi unaamini serikali inaposema eti meli hukaa baharini siku 5 tuu?

Nadhani tunakubaliana ila hatujaelewana. Rushwa imejaa Tanzania, ninachosema ni kazi ya serikali kuiondoa rushwa na sio kupanga bei.

Hiyo ya Dubai ndo sijawahi kusikia embu nijuze!

 

[ikhwan safaa]

Mnajua nini?
Mimi ninaside na hawa wafanyabiashara

In short Tanzania ni nchi ambayo ngumu sana kufanya biashara na sishangai sana kuhusu hizi charges na rushwa iliyokithiri

serikali inasema meli zinakaa siku 5 kule baharini...ukweli ni kuwa meli zinakaa mpaka siku 50 kule nje baharini kwenye foleni sasa hilo huhitaji kujua kuwa kuna incompetency sehemu na sishangai kuskia TRA na EWURA wana husika

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sisi tumezidi:

rushwa

urasimu

mazingira magumu kufanya biashara

Kodi zisizoeleweka kila kona badala ya kodi moja na ambayo inaeleza inafanya nini

local authorities kujaa staff ambao pia ni wala rushwa na wahuni


sasa tusitake kukaa hapa na na kutaka kuitakasa sana serikali na departments zake ili hali ukweli tunaujua lakini hatutaki kuuweka wazi. Naungana na wenye vituo hivi na nashauri its about time they come back and fight hizi slander wanaztumiwa kwa kuweka wazi jinsi wanavyonyonywa watu kama TRA,TBS,EWURA, LOCAL AUTHORITIES na kadhalika.

sitaki kuanzisha thread nyingine kwani siku hizi naona kabla hujaanzisha thread inabidi ipitie kwa GESTAPO wa JF kabla hajatundikwa so tutaendelea humu humu kuelezana

Lakini baada ya catalogs za uwongo toka serikalini mimi nikiambiwa nani nimwamini between serikali na wafanyabiashara hawa then nadhani mnajua nitakuwa upande upi