Bajeti ya Kenya ni zaidi ya mara mbili ya Tanzania, Wabongo wanazidi kukwama sana

Don YF

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Ficha your ignorance.
A big budget doesn't necessarily mean you are richer or more developed.
Nigeria's GDP is five times that of Kenya and y'all have the same budget size.
Kenya's development expenditure (the most important part of the budget) is 6bil$. Tanzania's is 6bil$.
The rest is debt servicing and payroll (usually this is the indicator of how big/corrupt is the government).
CFS (debt servicing which is mainly debt rollover) is 12bn$ for Kenya vs 4bn$ for Tanzania.
Basically that budget is for payroll and debt rollover (85%), while Tanzania spends 40% in development projects.
Ignorance on steroids, Nigeria has federal budget and state budgets, idiot! 😂 😂 😂 😂 What is your national annual revenue, it was mentioned in your budget reading usiseme nimepika?..wewe weka hapa nikuonyeshe how your reasoning is a fallacy.,😂😂😂., nchi fukara, dont mention Nigeria where Tanzania is discussed, despite their challenges and corruption, u are just an insect in comparison.., Kenya's annual revenue inashinda budget yenyu., yaani Kenya can finance mahitaji yoote ya Tanzania with mere revenue collections, mapato ya ndani pekee, na change ikabaki. And your budget is bigger than even your revenue, lazima mkope, Kenya is ambitious, small country with huge programmes and bigger revenue collections, "uchumi wa kwenye makaratsi eti"., mnapata taabu sana 😂 😂 😂
 

Don YF

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Budget ya mkopo wa $9 bln sio? Nigeria wana budget kama ya Kenya ila 100% self financed!
What is the difference of $9 billion to $33Billion., a whopping $24B, what is your budget again? $15B!,Revenue collections?.., yaani bado hamfiki karibu, ata tukiamua kuwacha hiyo $9B mkopo nje 😂 😂 😂 😂 ., Tanzania donar kantreee.,
 

mwathadan

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Ficha your ignorance.
A big budget doesn't necessarily mean you are richer or more developed.
Nigeria's GDP is five times that of Kenya and y'all have the same budget size.
Kenya's development expenditure (the most important part of the budget) is 6bil$. Tanzania's is 6bil$.
The rest is debt servicing and payroll (usually this is the indicator of how big/corrupt is the government).
CFS (debt servicing which is mainly debt rollover) is 12bn$ for Kenya vs 4bn$ for Tanzania.
Basically that budget is for payroll and debt rollover (85%), while Tanzania spends 40% in development projects.
Kenya has bigger development expenditure than Tanzania, given the different governance structure
 

Don YF

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Kenya has bigger development expenditure than Tanzania, given the different governance structure
Kuelimisha mtanzania ni kazi ngumu sana., hapendi ukweli unao mkera ama kuona Kenya iko juu yake., wivu na propaganda zimegandisha akili za wengi down south, so unfortunate!
 

Teargas

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Ficha your ignorance.

A big budget doesn't necessarily mean you are richer or more developed.

Nigeria's GDP is five times that of Kenya and y'all have the same budget size.

Kenya's development expenditure (the most important part of the budget) is 6bil$. Tanzania's is 6bil$.

The rest is debt servicing and payroll (usually this is the indicator of how big/corrupt is the government).

CFS (debt servicing which is mainly debt rollover) is 12bn$ for Kenya vs 4bn$ for Tanzania.

Basically that budget is for payroll and debt rollover (85%), while Tanzania spends 40% in development projects.
I think you should just shut up cause you seem very clueless, development allocation in Kenya is $11B as compared to $5.5B in Tanzania.
 

Teargas

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Kuelimisha mtanzania ni kazi ngumu sana., hapendi ukweli unao mkera ama kuona Kenya iko juu yake., wivu na propaganda zimegandisha akili za wengi down south, so unfortunate!
Jamaa anadhani development ni infrastructure pekee, please remind him that our development allocation got $11B which is twice that of Tanzania.
 

mwathadan

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Kuelimisha mtanzania ni kazi ngumu sana., hapendi ukweli unao mkera ama kuona Kenya iko juu yake., wivu na propaganda zimegandisha akili za wengi down south, so unfortunate!
wabongo hapa wanapenda sana kujiaminisha kila kitu kipo sawa kwao ila ukweli unawaumbua....imagine education budget yetu ni more than half ya pesa zote tanzania inatarajia kukusanya mwaka huu wa fedha ...lanes
 

Don YF

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You stupid Kenyans, what is the benefit of having a big budget which is half donor funded? Come to Tanzania to learn!
Tuonyeshe Kenya's budget is half donor funded? 50%., tuone nani stupid hapa sasa hivi, unakurupuka kwamaumivu mingi tu.., nchi fukara mnatuambia nini humu?..,
 

KENPAULITE

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hahaha, unafahamu budget ya failed state nusu yake ni mzungu amewapa mkopo? unafahamu kenya ni miongoni mwa mataifa ya EAC yenye serikali kubwa sana hivyo kuongeza matumizi yasiyo ya lazima?

KAMA KUNYALAND MNAKOPA ILI MLE, TANZANIA TUNAJIFUNZA KUTUMIA VIZURI KILE TULICHO NACHO KWA MANUFAA YA TAIFA LETU.
Boss punguza ujinga bana, beberu is also funding your budget
 

Don YF

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wabongo hapa wanapenda sana kujiaminisha kila kitu kipo sawa kwao ila ukweli unawaumbua....imagine education budget yetu ni more than half ya pesa zote tanzania inatarajia kukusanya mwaka huu wa fedha ...lanes
Hawako level yetu kamwe, ni kelele za vijiweni tu., we are both Africans with African challenges, but tukienda in details, wako ovyo sana!!
 

babayao255

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Ficha your ignorance.

A big budget doesn't necessarily mean you are richer or more developed.

Nigeria's GDP is five times that of Kenya and y'all have the same budget size.

Kenya's development expenditure (the most important part of the budget) is 6bil$. Tanzania's is 6bil$.

The rest is debt servicing and payroll (usually this is the indicator of how big/corrupt is the government).

CFS (debt servicing which is mainly debt rollover) is 12bn$ for Kenya vs 4bn$ for Tanzania.

Basically that budget is for payroll and debt rollover (85%), while Tanzania spends 40% in development projects.
 

Kafrican

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Ficha your ignorance.
A big budget doesn't necessarily mean you are richer or more developed.
Nigeria's GDP is five times that of Kenya and y'all have the same budget size.
Kenya's development expenditure (the most important part of the budget) is 6bil$. Tanzania's is 6bil$.
The rest is debt servicing and payroll (usually this is the indicator of how big/corrupt is the government).
CFS (debt servicing which is mainly debt rollover) is 12bn$ for Kenya vs 4bn$ for Tanzania.
Basically that budget is for payroll and debt rollover (85%), while Tanzania spends 40% in development projects.
Nigeria is a Federation, each state has its own budget, for e.g Lagos state budget is $2.5 Billion. If you combine all the states budget plus the federal govt, you are probably looking at over $60B in budgetary allocations which is at the very least, double that of Kenya.

And as for the case of salaries, huge recurrent expenditure doesn't always mean bad news... Huge salaries for Mps is bad, But for doctors,nurses and teachers means we have given priority to sectors that improve the quality of our future human resource workforce which is a very good thing. You cannot say our recurrent expenditure is huge compared to yours when we have at least double the number of teachers and doctors compared to Tz. e.g $2.8 Billion will go to teachers salaries in Kenya, The total budget for the min.ofEducation in Kenya is over $5Billion!!!!! while in Tz the whole Ministry of Educations budget is around $1B and this includes salaries !!!!
Had Kenya decided to spend the same amount of money that Tz does on Education, Kenya would have an extra $4B for development!!!

Also don't forget that the national government has given a total of $4B to counties for them to decide their own county budgets. If you were to sum up the development budget for each of the 47 counties in Kenya, you would get at least an extra $1.5B set aside for development in all counties combined budgets.
 

Geza Ulole

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Nigeria is a Federation, each state has its own budget, for e.g Lagos state budget is $2.5 Billion. If you combine all the states budget plus the federal govt, you are probably looking at over $60B in budgetary allocations which is at the very least, double that of Kenya.

And as for the case of salaries, huge recurrent expenditure doesn't always mean bad news... Huge salaries for Mps is bad, But for doctors,nurses and teachers means we have given priority to sectors that improve the quality of our future human resource workforce which is a very good thing. You cannot say our current expenditure is huge compared to yours when we have at least double the number of teachers and doctors compared to Tz. e.g $2.8 Billion will go to teachers salaries in Kenya, The total budget for the min.ofEducation in Kenya is over $5Billion!!!!! while in Tz the whole Ministry of Educations budget is around $1B and this includes salaries !!!!
Had Kenya decided to spend the same amount of money that Tz does on Education, Kenya would have an extra $4B for development!!!

Also don't forget that the national government has given a total of $4B to counties for them to decide their own county budgets. If you were to sum up the development budget for each of the 47 counties in Kenya, you would get at least an extra $1.5B set aside for development in all counties combined budgets.
leta evidence! the budget of Nigeria including federal budget is $35 bln, all financed by her own money!

Nigeria's parliament passes $35.66 bln budget for 2021​

By Reuters Staff
1 MIN READ

ABUJA, Dec 21 (Reuters) - Nigeria’s parliament approved on Monday the government’s 2021 budget of 13.6 trillion naira ($35.66 billion), assuming 3% annual economic growth, oil prices of $40 a barrel and 1.86 million barrels a day of crude production.

The budget will take effect when Nigeria’s President Muhammadu Buhari signs it into law, though a date has not been set and he could request changes. ($1 = 381.0000 naira) (Reporting by Camillus Eboh; Writing by Paul Carsten; Editing by Alex Richardson)
Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.


Go through here and show me where did you see the federal budget is any different from states budget!

 

Kobello

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Ignorance on steroids, Nigeria has federal budget and state budgets, idiot! 😂 😂 😂 😂 What is your national annual revenue, it was mentioned in your budget reading usiseme nimepika?..wewe weka hapa nikuonyeshe how your reasoning is a fallacy.,😂😂😂., nchi fukara, dont mention Nigeria where Tanzania is discussed, despite their challenges and corruption, u are just an insect in comparison.., Kenya's annual revenue inashinda budget yenyu., yaani Kenya can finance mahitaji yoote ya Tanzania with mere revenue collections, mapato ya ndani pekee, na change ikabaki. And your budget is bigger than even your revenue, lazima mkope, Kenya is ambitious, small country with huge programmes and bigger revenue collections, "uchumi wa kwenye makaratsi eti"., mnapata taabu sana 😂 😂 😂
Pssht!
1. Nigeria's Federal Government accounts for an average of 70% of States' revenue. Nothing different from most so-called devolved governments in Africa. They all depend on the central government i.e pesa mashinani crap! So your counter-argument is basically benign and does nothing to nullify the fact that bigger budget doesn't mean bigger economy or more development.
This is just simple economics.
I think you should just shut up cause you seem very clueless, development allocation in Kenya is $11B as compared to $5.5B in Tanzania.
Huwa sibahatishi ... Kasome tena halafu urudi.
 

Kafrican

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leta evidence! the budget of Nigeria including federal budget is $35 bln, all financed by her own money!

Nigeria's parliament passes $35.66 bln budget for 2021​

By Reuters Staff
1 MIN READ

ABUJA, Dec 21 (Reuters) - Nigeria’s parliament approved on Monday the government’s 2021 budget of 13.6 trillion naira ($35.66 billion), assuming 3% annual economic growth, oil prices of $40 a barrel and 1.86 million barrels a day of crude production.

The budget will take effect when Nigeria’s President Muhammadu Buhari signs it into law, though a date has not been set and he could request changes. ($1 = 381.0000 naira) (Reporting by Camillus Eboh; Writing by Paul Carsten; Editing by Alex Richardson)
Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.


Go through here and show me where did you see the federal budget is any different from states budget!

We itabidi ukasome maana ya federal system of government mwanzo ndo urudi. Hio bajeti ya $35B ni bajeti ya Fedela Government of Nigeria.
Kila state inachangisha bajeti yake na kusomea bajeti kivyake... Yani states ziko na uwezo wa kuchangisha pesa kivyao bila kutegemea sana msaada wa federal government.
Huku Kenya county zetu hazijafikisha hio level, Ni Nairobi tu ndo inajaribu. e.g Mwaka jana walichangisha $80m kama internal revenue wakati bajeti waliopewa na serekali kuu ni $170m. Hio $80m iliochangishwa na county ya Nairobi haimo kwa hesabu zozote za serekali kuu
 

tuusan

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Hawako level yetu kamwe, ni kelele za vijiweni tu., we are both Africans with African challenges, but tukienda in details, wako ovyo sana!!
Mko level gani Kwani? Upper middle income?Au nini kulekule tulipo? define the term level in a relation to ke vs Tz
 

Geza Ulole

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We itabidi ukasome maana ya federal system of government mwanzo ndo urudi. Hio bajeti ya $35B ni bajeti ya Fedela Government of Nigeria.
Kila state inachangisha bajeti yake na kusomea bajeti kivyake... Yani states ziko na uwezo wa kuchangisha pesa kivyao bila kutegemea sana msaada wa federal government.
Huku Kenya county zetu hazijafikisha hio level, Ni Nairobi tu ndo inajaribu. e.g Mwaka jana walichangisha $80m kama internal revenue wakati bajeti waliopewa na serekali kuu ni $170m.
nimekupa link na nikataka mnionyeshe hiyo state budget kwamba ipo tofauti na federal budget!

haya onyesha
 

Kobello

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Nigeria is a Federation, each state has its own budget, for e.g Lagos state budget is $2.5 Billion. If you combine all the states budget plus the federal govt, you are probably looking at over $60B in budgetary allocations which is at the very least, double that of Kenya.

And as for the case of salaries, huge recurrent expenditure doesn't always mean bad news... Huge salaries for Mps is bad, But for doctors,nurses and teachers means we have given priority to sectors that improve the quality of our future human resource workforce which is a very good thing. You cannot say our recurrent expenditure is huge compared to yours when we have at least double the number of teachers and doctors compared to Tz. e.g $2.8 Billion will go to teachers salaries in Kenya, The total budget for the min.ofEducation in Kenya is over $5Billion!!!!! while in Tz the whole Ministry of Educations budget is around $1B and this includes salaries !!!!
Had Kenya decided to spend the same amount of money that Tz does on Education, Kenya would have an extra $4B for development!!!

Also don't forget that the national government has given a total of $4B to counties for them to decide their own county budgets. If you were to sum up the development budget for each of the 47 counties in Kenya, you would get at least an extra $1.5B set aside for development in all counties combined budgets.
Hehe .... Not true.
Kenya has bigger development expenditure than Tanzania, given the different governance structure
Numbers PLZ ...
 

Geza Ulole

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Pssht!
1. Nigeria's Federal Government accounts for an average of 70% of States' revenue. Nothing different from most so-called devolved governments in Africa. They all depend on the central government i.e pesa mashinani crap! So your counter-argument is basically benign and does nothing to nullify the fact that bigger budget doesn't mean bigger economy or more development.
This is just simple economics.

Huwa sibahatishi ... Kasome tena halafu urudi.
so ina maana chukua $35 bln federal budget jumlisha na around $10 bln (30% from states budget) unapata $45 bln! South Africa's 2021/2022 budget ni over $99 bln!

 

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