As World War III alliances are being made and finalized, let's see who is the King of the Skies at the moment

Mathanzua

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To me America at present is the "King of The Skies" because this is the only country with fully operational 5th generation fighters.Yes America is an evil nation and yes these gadgets are in the wrong hands,but this is the truth at the moment.


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The United States has established itself as a superior superpower in air defense. The US establishment believes that air superiority can give quick reconnaissance and quick response time to any crisis in any part of the world and as such has invested heavily on 5th generation fighters in the F22 and Lockheed Martin F 35's. As war experience has taught the United States and also exemplary Israel 6 days war,the point taken is that he who controls the skies "may" dictate the pace of the battlefield and ultimately a real game changer in war affairs.

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The United states air superiority philosophy also extends on to the seas. They build huge ships known as Aircraft Carriers,which can accommodate hundred's of Fighter jets. An a craft carrier fleet is almost Impossible to sink and a single fleet is more than the military of most countries in the world.

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What is a 5th generation Fighter
A 5th generation Fighter is a type of jet greatly superior to the 4th generation Fighter, the main feature of which is its' stealth ability. This stealth ability makes the planes invisible to radar systems and are quite Ideal for surprise air attacks.
Another important feature is the ability of a 5th generation fighters to reach supersonic speed without the use of afterburners which is a great defect of the Russian SU-57 as we will see later in this article.
There are up to about 14 types of 5th generation fighters however only a few meets this 2 major criteria. let's take a look at the major world powers 5th generation Fighters.
4.Chengdu(Avic)J-20(Black Eagle)

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The J20 is the Chinese first and only 5th generation fighter. The Chinese aircraft industry had a lot of help from countries like Russia,to help it modernize its' fleet. Some of Chinese 4th generation aircraft are known to be a copy of the Russian SU-27. Chinese engineers had access to some Russian aircrafts during the cold war and had managed to reverse engineer the components and make their own indigenous aircraft. There are other rumours that the J20 technology might in fact be based on Lockheed Martin F-177 stealth fighter shot down by a surface to air missile in Syria in 1992. The Chinese and Syrians were close at that time and could have facilitated sharing of the technology. In summary the J20 is still a work in progress and still has many bugs to be fixed. it'll take quite a while for it to be fully operational as the F 35
3. Sukhoi-SU 57(Felon)

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Sukhoi Su-57 is a Russian made 5th generation Fighters made primarily to challenge the US F-22. It is still under development under Sukhoi OKB which is a Russian aircraft firm originating from world war II. This aircraft possess the latest aviation technology,radar absorbing material and a great weaponry system. it's multirole and would perform both air to air and air to surface attacks. It also has super cruise feature and also enjoys a greater speed and great maneuverability than the F 22. The major challenge of this fighter is the use of afterburners to reach super cruise speed. Use of afterburners makes it easily detectable by radar and would no longer be regarded as stealth. The Russians are however working on a similar kind of engine which the F35 and F22 posses that enables them go so fast without using afterburners
2. Lockheed Martin F 35

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The Lockheed Martin F 35 is a very successful multirole stealth fighter aircraft. Multirole in the sense that it's suitable for both air and ground attack. it's the most successful aircraft on the planet.Due to it being very successful, the US can't even keep up with demand for it from allied nations and raking in billions of dollars for the United States. The F 35 is also capable of gathering information, surveillance and reconnaissance. It has 3 variables F35 A,F35 B and F35 C, conventional takeoffs and landings,short takeoff and vertical landing and carriers based respectively.
1. Lockheed Martin F22 Raptor

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The Lockheed F22 Raptor is the most advanced and most expensive fighter on the planet. If you are looking for an air superiority beast,this is the beast you are looking for. With the advent of the successful multirole F35,the USAF was not satisfied and wanted an aircraft solely for air superiority, this gave way for the rise of the Raptor F22.This fighter is so advanced that production had to be stopped because no fighter in operation currently comes close to it,so it doesn't make sense wasting billions of dollars on its maintenance. The F22 Raptor is therefore not available for export to other countries
 
America may be the undisputed master of the skies like Britain was for the Seas throughout the 19th Century: She is in possession of sophisticated fleet of gunships (5th Generation), but wasn't this the case since 1945 ???:
-Wasn't American air-power relatively superior even when she fled Vietnam in 1975 ??
-Wasn't American air-power relatively superior even when the U2 Spy Plane got downed by a Soviet Missile ??
-Wasn't American air-power relatively superior when her sophisticated jets were downed in Bosnia ??

America's Air Supremacy was there since the time of the Cold War and is probably here to stay. Thou, assuredly I tell you this will not bring her victory in a war with a continental sized countries like The Peoples' Republic of China and Russia who are miles away from her shores. The use of mechanized battalions will also be of intrinsic value in securing her victory.

Now my friend let me tell you a short story of Once Upon a Time in Europe:
Until 1914 the world believed that the British Naval Fleet is invincible and unmatched. In 1911 Winston Churchill made a very fateful decision to shift from the use of coal to oil in powering ship engines: The new oil powered dreadnoughts were like the 5th Generation Battle Ships of that era. The gentleman in Downing Street, London were busy reciting the Poem "Rule Britannia, Britannia Rules the waves".

They were at the Zenith of their empire, they had all the colonies, all the money, and history was on their side. They were proud men who once resisted the Spanish Armada and Napoleon Bonaparte, what else could you tell these proud Islanders ???. And Yes Pitt alongside Matternich were instrumental in organising the Post-Napoleon Europe at the Vienna Congress of 1814 which ensured 100 years of peace and prosperity in Europe. Fortune favoured them not only in the battlefield but also in the Geopolitical Chessboard.

But, their joy was short lived when the Undersea Monsters of Imperial Germany (The U-Boats) wiped half of the British Fleet in the Atlantic during the first months of the war. Britain then remembered the 1907 Crowe Memorandum, which warned them of the Imperial Germany secret military build up which started in early 1900's. Blinded by Imperial arrogance gentlemen in Downing Street disregarded Crowe's warnings. In 1917 the Glorious British Empire was about to capitulate to Imperial Germany, it was a divine providence that interfered.

Moral of the Story: War is never fought and won in one theater.
I see so much resemblance of the British Empire in a modern day America.
 
America may be the undisputed master of the skies like Britain was for the Seas throughout the 19th Century: She is in possession of sophisticated fleet of gunships (5th Generation), but wasn't this the case since 1945 ???:
-Wasn't American air-power relatively superior even when she fled Vietnam in 1975 ??
-Wasn't American air-power relatively superior even when the U2 Spy Plane got downed by a Soviet Missile ??
-Wasn't American air-power relatively superior when her sophisticated jets were downed in Bosnia ??

America's Air Supremacy was there since the time of the Cold War and is probably here to stay. Thou, assuredly I tell you this will not bring her victory in a war with a continental sized countries like The Peoples' Republic of China and Russia who are miles away from her shores. The use of mechanized battalions will also be of intrinsic value in her victory.

Now my friend let me tell you a short story of Once Upon a Time in Europe:
Until 1914 the world believed that the British Naval Fleet is invincible and unmatched. In 1911 Winston Churchill made a very fateful decision to shift from the use of coal to oil in powering ship engines: The new oil powered dreadnoughts were like the 5th Generation Battle Ships of that era. The gentleman in London were busy reciting the Poem "Rule Britannia, Britannia Rules the waves".

They were at the Zenith of their empire, they had all the colonies, all the money, and history was on their side. They were proud men who once resisted the Spanish Armada and Napoleon Bonaparte. And Yes Pitt alongside Matternich were instrumental in organising the Post-Napoleon Europe at the Vienna Congress of 1814 which ensured 100 years of peace and prosperity in Europe. Fortune favoured them not only in the battlefield but also in the Geopolitical Chessboard.

But, their joy was short lived when the Undersea Monsters of Imperial Germany (The U-Boats) wiped half of the British Fleet in the Atlantic during the first months of the war. Britain then remembered the 1907 Crowe Memorandum, which warned them of the Imperial Germany secret military build up which started in early 1900's. Blinded by Imperial arrogance gentlemen in Downing Street disregarded Crowe's warnings. In 1917 the Glorious British Empire was about to capitulate to Imperial Germany, it was a divine providence that interfered.

Moral of the Story: War is never fought and won in one theater.
I see so much resemblance of the British Empire in a modern day America

You wouln't have been more correct.However please remember that the theme of discussion is not who will win in case of World War III,but rather who the King of the skies is at the moment.I know that a war cannot be warn by fighter jets alone,war has so many dimensions.
 
You wouln't have been more correct.However please remember that the theme of discussion is not who will win in case of World War III,but rather who the King of the skies is at the moment.I know that a war cannot be warn by fighter jets alone,war has so many dimensions.
My friend, the theme is a tentative one: Only a actual combat will determine who has Air Primacy.
 
My friend, the theme is a tentative one: Only a actual combat will determine who has Air Primacy.
Dah,naona sieleweki.Nina maanisha kwamba malengo ya mazungumzo yetu ya sasa hayalengi nani atashinda vita ya tatu kama itatokea,lakini rather nani ana midege ya kisasa zaidi kwa sasa.Najua vita haishindwi kwa midege tu,yapo mambo mengi yanayo determine ushindi.
 
Wamarekani wanawalisha propaganda mbaya na si vizuri kuzimeza! Hivi kweli Russia, China, hawana uwezo wa kuzamisha aircraft carrier ? Hicho kitu wanakirudia Sana lakini kiukweli wakikutana na adversary powers wenye nguvu Kama Russia aircraft carrier NI makaburi makubwa kabisa ya kisasa ya wamarekani
 
Sawa mkuu, mwenye midege mingi ni Marekani.
Ndege Vita Kama tu tu 160 zisizozidi 30 Zina uwezo wa kuifanya us kuwa majivu chini ya jua, iwapo tu zitafanikiwa kupenetrate American airspace . Vile vile b1, b52 kadhaa Zina uwezo wa kuifanya Russia mavumbi
 
America may be the undisputed master of the skies like Britain was for the Seas throughout the 19th Century: She is in possession of sophisticated fleet of gunships (5th Generation), but wasn't this the case since 1945 ???:
-Wasn't American air-power relatively superior even when she fled Vietnam in 1975 ??
-Wasn't American air-power relatively superior even when the U2 Spy Plane got downed by a Soviet Missile ??
-Wasn't American air-power relatively superior when her sophisticated jets were downed in Bosnia ??

America's Air Supremacy was there since the time of the Cold War and is probably here to stay. Thou, assuredly I tell you this will not bring her victory in a war with a continental sized countries like The Peoples' Republic of China and Russia who are miles away from her shores. The use of mechanized battalions will also be of intrinsic value in her victory.

Now my friend let me tell you a short story of Once Upon a Time in Europe:
Until 1914 the world believed that the British Naval Fleet is invincible and unmatched. In 1911 Winston Churchill made a very fateful decision to shift from the use of coal to oil in powering ship engines: The new oil powered dreadnoughts were like the 5th Generation Battle Ships of that era. The gentleman in Downing Street, London were busy reciting the Poem "Rule Britannia, Britannia Rules the waves".

They were at the Zenith of their empire, they had all the colonies, all the money, and history was on their side. They were proud men who once resisted the Spanish Armada and Napoleon Bonaparte. And Yes Pitt alongside Matternich were instrumental in organising the Post-Napoleon Europe at the Vienna Congress of 1814 which ensured 100 years of peace and prosperity in Europe. Fortune favoured them not only in the battlefield but also in the Geopolitical Chessboard.

But, their joy was short lived when the Undersea Monsters of Imperial Germany (The U-Boats) wiped half of the British Fleet in the Atlantic during the first months of the war. Britain then remembered the 1907 Crowe Memorandum, which warned them of the Imperial Germany secret military build up which started in early 1900's. Blinded by Imperial arrogance gentlemen in Downing Street disregarded Crowe's warnings. In 1917 the Glorious British Empire was about to capitulate to Imperial Germany, it was a divine providence that interfered.

Moral of the Story: War is never fought and won in one theater.
I see so much resemblance of the British Empire in a modern day America.

Very good analysis. Hizo tambo za USA ipo siku watu watapigwa na mshangao mkubwa siku Marekani atakapokalishwa kirahisi sana.

By the the way, the Russian military strategy is always asymmetrical to American military strategy, a strategy which is very similar to U-Boats strategy of Germans against British Navy during WW1. Mkakati wa Marekani kutawala bahari na anga la dunia kijeshi, lazima China na Russia wana majibu mahsusi kuvuruga huo mkakati.
 
Very good analysis. Hizo tambo za USA ipo siku watu watapigwa na mshangao mkubwa siku Marekani atakapokalishwa kirahisi sana.

By the the way, the Russian military strategy is always asymmetrical to American military strategy, a strategy which is very similar to U-Boats strategy of Germans against British Navy during WW1. Mkakati wa Marekani kutawala bahari na anga la dunia kijeshi, lazima China na Russia wana majibu mahsusi kuvuruga huo mkakati.
Nakubaliana na wazo lako. Hakuna ambaye amekaa kidandara akimsubiri marekani aendelee na supremacy wake huo. Ukija na stealth wao wanakuja na anti stealth
 
America may be the undisputed master of the skies like Britain was for the Seas throughout the 19th Century: She is in possession of sophisticated fleet of gunships (5th Generation), but wasn't this the case since 1945 ???:
-Wasn't American air-power relatively superior even when she fled Vietnam in 1975 ??
-Wasn't American air-power relatively superior even when the U2 Spy Plane got downed by a Soviet Missile ??
-Wasn't American air-power relatively superior when her sophisticated jets were downed in Bosnia ??

America's Air Supremacy was there since the time of the Cold War and is probably here to stay. Thou, assuredly I tell you this will not bring her victory in a war with a continental sized countries like The Peoples' Republic of China and Russia who are miles away from her shores. The use of mechanized battalions will also be of intrinsic value in her victory.

Now my friend let me tell you a short story of Once Upon a Time in Europe:
Until 1914 the world believed that the British Naval Fleet is invincible and unmatched. In 1911 Winston Churchill made a very fateful decision to shift from the use of coal to oil in powering ship engines: The new oil powered dreadnoughts were like the 5th Generation Battle Ships of that era. The gentleman in Downing Street, London were busy reciting the Poem "Rule Britannia, Britannia Rules the waves".

They were at the Zenith of their empire, they had all the colonies, all the money, and history was on their side. They were proud men who once resisted the Spanish Armada and Napoleon Bonaparte. And Yes Pitt alongside Matternich were instrumental in organising the Post-Napoleon Europe at the Vienna Congress of 1814 which ensured 100 years of peace and prosperity in Europe. Fortune favoured them not only in the battlefield but also in the Geopolitical Chessboard.

But, their joy was short lived when the Undersea Monsters of Imperial Germany (The U-Boats) wiped half of the British Fleet in the Atlantic during the first months of the war. Britain then remembered the 1907 Crowe Memorandum, which warned them of the Imperial Germany secret military build up which started in early 1900's. Blinded by Imperial arrogance gentlemen in Downing Street disregarded Crowe's warnings. In 1917 the Glorious British Empire was about to capitulate to Imperial Germany, it was a divine providence that interfered.

Moral of the Story: War is never fought and won in one theater.
I see so much resemblance of the British Empire in a modern day America.

Kaka mkubwa nafikiri Navy ya Muingereza ndio ilisaidia kumlazimisha mjerumani anyooshe mikono juu wakati wa World war one

A naval blockade by Royal Navy to be precise is what made Germans kneel down to end the war
 
basi nikipitia nyuzi kama hizi halafu nikiwaona watu mnajua mambo mengi, najivunia kua watanzania .. na nnaendelea kuwaza kua sie tumerogwa mpka hatufikii huko
 
Kaka mkubwa nafikiri Navy ya Muingereza ndio ilisaidia kumlazimisha mjerumani anyooshe mikono juu wakati wa World war one

A naval blockade by Royal Navy to be precise is what made Germans kneel down to end the war
Until the end of the campaign Imperial Germany decimate more than 5000 British vessels (Civilian+Merchant). If it wasn't for the Americans, The British would have capitulated to the Germans back in 1917.
 
Until the end of the campaign Imperial Germany decimate more than 5000 British vessels (Civilian+Merchant). If it wasn't for the Americans, The British would have capitulated to the Germans back in 1917.
USA licha ya kutuma wanajeshi elfu kumi kila siku wakati anaingia vitani lakini nakumbuka kama factor kubwa iliyomlazimisha mjerumani ku"Surrender" ilikuwa ni blockade iliyofanywa na Muingereza kwa msaada na faida ya ukubwa wa Royal navy
 
USA licha ya kutuma wanajeshi elfu kumi kila siku wakati anaingia vitani lakini nakumbuka kama factor kubwa iliyomlazimisha mjerumani ku"Surrender" ilikuwa ni blockade iliyofanywa na Muingereza kwa msaada na faida ya ukubwa wa Royal navy
Do you think The Royal Navy would have stood a chance against Imperial Germany, if it wasn't for the United States ???
 
basi nikipitia nyuzi kama hizi halafu nikiwaona watu mnajua mambo mengi, najivunia kua watanzania .. na nnaendelea kuwaza kua sie tumerogwa mpka hatufikii huko
Wanatuwekea magoti kwenye shingo,ndio maana hatufiki waliko wao mkuu,mbona tungefika.Walitudanganya tukakubali elimu yao,ambayo ilikuwa na nia ovu ya kutufanya tuwe tegemezi na watumwa,sio wagunduzi.

Walipokuja tulikuwa na gunduzi zetu,tukaingizwa mkenge tukakumbatia za kwao.Nadhani utakumbuka vita nyingi za Waafrika na Wazungu zilizoendelea Africa: physical na wars of the mind,ambazo mpaka leo zipo,tena kwa kiwango kikubwa zaidi.

Tunaweza mkuu,ila narudia, wametuwekea magoti kwenye shingo.Unajua kwa nini waliwachukia akina Patrice Lumumba(my avatar),Samora Machel,Kwame Nkumah,Julius Nyerere na sasa John Joseph Pombe Maguli?Ni kwa sababu wanajua hawa watu ni eye openers,and through them,the whole of Africa might wake up and remove the knee off the kneck.
 
Wanatuwekea magoti kwenye shingo,ndio maana hatufiki waliko wao mkuu,mbona tungefika.Walitudanganya tukakubali elimu yao,ambayo ilikuwa na nia ovu ya kutufanya tuwe tegemezi na watumwa,sio wagunduzi.

Walipokuja tulikuwa na gunduzi zetu,tukaingizwa mkenge tukakumbatia za kwao.Nadhani utakumbuka vita nyingi za Waafrika na Wazungu zilizoendelea Africa: physical na wars of the mind,ambazo mpaka leo zipo,tena kwa kiwango kikubwa zaidi.

Tunaweza mkuu,ila narudia, wametuwekea magoti kwenye shingo.Unajua kwa nini waliwachukia akina Patrice Lumumba(my avatar),Samora Machel,Kwame Nkumah,Julius Nyerere na sasa John Joseph Pombe Maguli?Ni kwa sababu wanajua hawa watu ni eye openers,and through them the whole of Africa might wake up and remove the knee of the kneck of Africa.
uko sahihi mkuu.
 
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