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  1. MAMA POROJO

    MAMA POROJO JF-Expert Member

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    E.O. 12958: N/A

    TAGS: PGOV PREL TZ

    SUBJECT: Opposition Chadema leaders critique the Kikwete Presidency

    ¶1. Summary: In a discussion with DCM, two leaders of opposition
    party CHADEMA recognized that Tanzania's democratic development "has
    a positive trend line." They criticized President Kikwete's
    handling of the African Union Chairmanship as unfocussed and
    reactive. They maintained that by postponing indefinitely difficult
    decisions and refusing to confront corrupt figures in his party and
    government, Kikwete is undermining his own presidency and turning
    serious issues (Zanzibar power sharing, Union status, corruption)
    into "explosive" issues. There are elements of truth to this harsh
    critique, but as opposition leaders they cranked it up a few extra
    notches. State House is chaotic and faction-ridden, with no one
    serving as a strong Chief of Staff. We continue to urge the
    President, who we are convinced has good governance policy
    intentions, to put his house in order. End Summary.

    ¶2. DCM met with two leaders of the opposition Chadema party, Zitto
    Kabwe and Dr. Wilbrod Slaa. Both are members of parliament. The
    meeting took place at Dr. Slaa's parliamentary office in Dodoma
    prior to Chadema's recent victory in the Tarime by-election
    (septel). Dr. Slaa serves as his party's Secretary General. Zitto
    Kabwe is a noted activist and "young turk." The opposition controls
    15 percent of the seats in parliament (44 out of 290). Chadema
    controls eleven of those seats, with the remainder held by CUF (32)
    and the UDP (1). The opposition parties coordinate in parliament.

    ¶3. Slaa and Kabwe made the following points, in unison:
    On Tanzania's Democracy:
    -- Parliamentary procedures and constitutional arrangements were
    shaped by nearly thirty years of one-party rule. A dozen years or
    so of multipartyism has not yet erased the legacy of the one-party
    state, especially as regards the relation between the ruling party
    and state institutions such as the police, the judiciary and the
    central bank.

    -- Still, we recognize that the trend line is positive. Tanzania is
    becoming more genuinely democratic. Here in parliament the Speaker
    has made several important reforms to give the opposition a greater
    voice and to require consultation with the opposition. We know that
    he is under severe attack from his CCM (ruling party) colleagues for
    his reasonableness.

    On the Kikwete AU Chairmanship:

    -- No one can tell us what Kikwete's agenda is for his African Union
    Chairmanship. When Ghana had the Chairmanship they announced their
    agenda and worked that agenda methodically. Kikwete leads the AU
    just as he does Tanzania: in an ad hoc manner always reacting to
    events, never launching his own initiatives. When we wish to
    consult on these issues who do we speak to? No one in the Ministry
    of Foreign Affairs or the Presidency is designated to back up the AU
    Chairmanship, with the possible exception of the Foreign Minister.
    There is no "AU cell," as there should be.

    On the Kikwete Presidency:

    -- There is a vacuum at State House. There is no seriousness, no
    strategic vision, no plan. Kikwete needs to act. He is
    accumulating problems as he constantly postpones all issues. For
    the first time in our country's history cabinet meetings are
    cancelled due to lack of a quorum. Kikwete is unable to get his
    ministers to attend his cabinet meetings.

    -- Kikwete is personally popular, but he is increasingly seen as too
    weak to address the corruption in his party. He is surrounded by
    people notorious for their corruption. His image is hurt by this.
    He is not pulling the CCM up. The CCM is dragging him down.

    -- He made a public commitment to resolve the political problem of
    Zanzibar. He publicly associated himself with the power sharing
    arrangements in Kenya and Zimbabwe, but is unable to achieve the
    same for Zanzibar. At Butiama (site of the last ruling party
    conference) he allowed himself to be humiliated by Karume (President
    of Zanzibar). His strength within the party is undermined by his
    refusal to confront anyone.

    -- Kikwete's weakness directly led to the worsening relations
    between Zanzibar and the Union. Now that politicians like Karume
    see that Kikwete will not confront them and will indefinitely put
    off difficult decisions, they are successfully manipulating him to
    the detriment of the country. These issues (Zanzibar power sharing,
    union, corruption, etc.) do not improve with age, they only become
    more "explosive."

    DAR ES SAL 00000706 002 OF 002

    ¶4. Comment: There are elements of truth to this harsh critique, but
    as opposition leaders they cranked it up a few extra notches. We
    too have lamented the lack of discipline and the apparent lack of
    strategic thinking at State House. We have also witnessed the
    tendency to put off difficult decisions, especially on Zanzibar and
    corruption. State House is chaotic and faction-ridden and no one
    serves as a strong Chief of Staff. We continue to urge the
    President, who we are convinced has good governance policy
    intentions, to put his house in order. A former Foreign Minister,
    Kikwete clearly relishes the international stage and is effective at
    working regional issues. However, for the good of the country and
    his own political standing, he must devote more of his attention to
    the responsibilities of Chief Executive.


    GREEN
     
  2. Kombo

    Kombo JF-Expert Member

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    Hakuna shaka watawataka Kabwe na Dr Slaa wathbitishe "ulegevu wa state house" na "udhaifu wa Namba 1" katika kuyatambua na kutekeleza majukumu yake kama Chief Executive.


    Nitawashangaa kama hawatowapiga "vijembe" Kabwe na Dr Slaa kwamba hawana "uzoefu" na uongozi wa nchi na "wana chuki binafsi na Namba 1" na "hawautakii mema" Mungano.

    Salvaaaaaaaaaa.........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  3. PakaJimmy

    PakaJimmy JF-Expert Member

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    Hii kitu ni ya zamani sana aisee na imeshazidiwa na wakati!...
     
  4. Kombo

    Kombo JF-Expert Member

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    Maoni yao bado yako "live".
     
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    Mbopo JF-Expert Member

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    Inatusaidia nini? Tumekuwa tukiyasikia haya kila kukicha. Mbona hawajaeleza kwamba na wenyewe wamekuwa wakinufaika na proceeds za ufisadi na kwamba mafisadi hao wanashirikiana nao kwa ukaribu? Ilivyo sasa, mafisadi hao wako karibu na Chadema kuliko Kikwete na viongozi waadilifu ndani ya chama na serikali.
     
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    Bigirita JF-Expert Member

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    Mkuu, lakini ile ya..... Kikwete leads AU without any agendas, no vision and no strategies as does Tanzania.....hiyo imemnukuu vizuri sana bana!
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    G. Activist JF-Expert Member

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    Mbona ya sut tano ilikuwa ya zamani zaid lakini ikakamata vilevile
     
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    G. Activist JF-Expert Member

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    Even if Hon Dr. Slaa n Kabwe zito, they asked to confirm the truth described above, there is nothing to lose for them, they were trying to be open, and that is what they present... Vacuum at the state House, He never launch his own ideas, keeps on dragging the events, shame on him
     
  9. Kachanchabuseta

    Kachanchabuseta JF-Expert Member

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    Mkuu tunaomba link

    otherwise hii ni holly crap
     
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    bi mkora JF-Expert Member

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    Ile issue ya suti za Jk unazani ni ya lini??? U dont know your history then u wont get on ur future.
     
  11. twahil

    twahil JF-Expert Member

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    Its of a long time.KIKWETE TAYARI ALIISHAMALIMA MVUTANO HUKO ZANZIBAR.HALAFU WATU WALIOULIZWA NI WAPINZANI WA KIKWETE WEWE ULITEGEMEA WAMSIFIE?.SALVA DON'T BOTHER TO GIVE EXLANATIONS.
     
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    afwe JF-Expert Member

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    Historia yapasa kuwa ya zamani na husaidia ku-reflect mtu alivyokuwa zamani na alivyo sasa. Kushindwa kufanya maamuzi kwenye maswala muhimu JK hajaanza leo. Hata hii report ya wikiLeaks inathibitisha
     
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    Hosida Member

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    Kikwete leads the AU
    just as he does Tanzania: in an ad hoc manner always reacting to
    events, never launching his own initiatives.

    I like this!!
     
  14. Mwita25

    Mwita25 JF-Expert Member

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    Whether aunthetic or a mere smear the story carries no immediate answers to the current quagmires confrontating our country. Is it worthwhile wasting time on discussing it? Probably the only problem pertaining secret stories divulged by Wikileaks is that they appear to be publicly when its too late.
     
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    baba29 Member

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    Mbopo JF-Expert Member

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    They are being blown out of proportion and yet they have no bearing on the current wellbeing of the majority poor. But since our people are so obsessed with discussing events, the stories will not fade.
     
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    Mbopo JF-Expert Member

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    Misconceived position
     
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    Jasusi JF-Expert Member

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    Kuna viongozi gani waadilifu ndani ya CCM? Hebu nitajie mmoja tu na uonyeshe ushawishi wake. (Namwacha nje Makongoro)
     
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    Zawadi Ngoda JF-Expert Member

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    Mambo huenda pole pole. Si mmeona hayo ya Zanzibar yametatuliwa! Sasa hapa nani kazidiwa nguvu, Karume au Kikwete.

    Hamzijui siasa za Tanzania, kudandia tu treni kwa mbele.
     
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    Kidzude JF-Expert Member

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    Hawa wajinga wanajiita weakleak wameshaanza kuimezea bongo. Onyo serikali ya CCM ikiwa imara itakuwa ni habari mbaya kwao, na ikitolewa itakuwa habari mbaya kwao hivyo watanzania kuweni makini na hizi PLOT za CIA m16
     
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