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Why graduates can’t write English-

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Elimu (Education Forum)' started by bagamoyo, Aug 9, 2010.

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    bagamoyo JF-Expert Member

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    The author lectures at Makerere University

    Last week, a Daily Monitor reader sent in a letter to the editor in which he decried the falling quality of university graduates. I’m sure there are many senior employers who can testify to this. When young recruits try to write a letter or a short report, it is difficult to find whole sentences in their work. They will mix up tenses and write 60 and 80-word sentences. The incoherence in the essays of students and graduates of our universities makes one wonder whether such work would have been awarded any scores enabling transfer from A’ level.


    It is very difficult to find good sense in most of the gobbledegook that they write in the place of arguments. In an essay on ethical issues arising from the development of the internet, one university freshman has written: “The internet has so many actors, each with completely different motives, exploitation of women is now a very great concern of its own and has put ethics on a different level (pornography).”


    Another wrote: “People especially get exposed to many criminal acts like drug abuse, robbery and other forms of criminology and this corrupts their minds which sometimes leads them to also do the same but this can also be solved by censorship of the service providers and other websites before they give out certain information to the entire world.”Here, I take a look behind the smokescreen of successful schools, straight As and English language and literature distinctions that many students who in fact cannot write or speak English have achieved.


    Poor foundation

    I think somewhere along the way to university, young people have been badly let down by their teachers. Thousands of students who cannot express themselves using the spoken or written word have been short-changed by their secondary schools. This is what anyone who reads their unintelligible essays can quickly make of the situation. The schools these students have attended fooled them into believing they were ready for the next stage of learning. List logic and cramming that many students are accustomed to in history or economics classes in secondary school are key obstacles...........

    Please continue on this link: Daily Monitor: *- Education*|Why graduates can0-


     
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    Mlachake JF-Expert Member

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    cant ''write English'' or ''write in English''
     
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    both!
     
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    It is not our mother language,noone to blame at all
     
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    Kwa watanzania tulio wengi kiingereza ni lugha ya tatu au ya nne, no wonder inatuhangaisha sana. Lakini we are much better kuliko watu wa ulaya ambao wanajua lugha mbili tu, sisi at least tunajua lugha tatu.

    Kuna wengine wanapima akili ya mtu kutokana na uwezo wa kuongea na kuandika kiingereza, so stupid. Na kuna wajinga kabisa wanaita kiingereza kizungu, as if Kifaransa, kurussia, kiserb sio vizungu.

    Wengine even worse wanashindwa kusema nakupenda kwa kuwa haina maana nzuri kama i love you. Kasumba.
     
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    That is a lame excuse bro. English is taught just like any other subject. Non of them is ours and that is why people are taught. It is true that secondary schools have played down the language due to several reasons including the teachers themselves who cropped from the same poor English speaking and writing schools. Some schools don't even know that debate clubs exist?

    Believe me or not,the way you speaks and write has a lot to do with the way you think intelligently. Self expression is one of the qualities of learned person. What you know ought to be explained to those who do not know and unfortunately in these areas of ours, it has to be in English. i
     
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    To write in English is not issue.
    Issue is knowledge.
    We have to promote our language(Swahili).
    We must teach our children starting from Nursery level using our Swahili language.
    Namkumbuka Shaaban Robert na shairi lake linaloitwa 'Kiswahili'
    Ifike kipindi Wazungu wawe na hamu ya kujifunza kiswahili kama sisi tunavyo kibabaikia kiingereza chao.
     
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    Hatuongei habari ya kiswahili tunachokijua wote.Tunaongea habari ya kujifunza -elimu itolewayo kwa kiingereza , kijerumani ,kichina etc
    Bila shaka kama lugha uliyotumia kupata hiyo elimu huielewi sijui hiyo shule itapanda vipi. Knowledge is aquired through media and one of them is the language used. Kama mwanafunzi wa chuo kikuu hawezi kuconstruct a meaningful english sentence huyo mwalimu anampaje maksi hadi aende level nyingine? Au waalimu wanguess alitaka kusema nini kwenye hiyo paper ? au mitihani yao ni mulitple choice tu?
     
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    Paul S.S Verified User

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    sio kkweli kuwa hawawezi kuandika, isipokuwa hawawezi kuandika kiingereza fasaha
     
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    Wait a second.. is this about writting good english? Good choice of words and being as brief as possible? good communication skills to convey the required message?... Most of us have our English translated from our native language hence miendering sentences but the inteded message gets delivered.... by the way it's not our mother tongue!!

    Does every white graduate speak the so called 'good' English!!?? STOP BEING BRAINWASHED! Reasoning and communicating are two different themes. Be confident!!
     
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    Watu kama mimi tuliosoma zamani, kiingereza tumekuja kukitumia sekondari tena ni katika mitihani. Walimu wetu pia walipitia system hii.Pili, kama walivyosema hapo juu hii si lugha yetu tunayofundishwa nyumbani tukiwa wadogo. Hata hao wazungu wanaojua kiswahili ukiwaambia waandike INSHA watashindwa.
     
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    Mkuu Ndibalema:

    Our language as you put it above, it is not Swahili it rather called Kiswahili
     
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    Makanyanga:

    Both? What is the true meaning of these two words: "write English"
     
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    :crying:
     
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    jamani suala la lugha ni tatizo kwa watu wanaochukulia kujua ki english ndo kuiva.mbona matahaaira wa huko uinglishin wanaongea kiingereza ina maana wao ni bright?watu msizuzuke na vi english.e sikijui ki english lakini ninajiamini sana natumia kwa kadri ya uwezo wangu kwani si lugha yangu nimelazimishwa kuisoma nilipoingia shule waalimu wenyewe,kwa hiyo isitusumbue sana watanzania tusio jua ki english jamani.ubarikiwe mleta topic hiyo.
     
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    Mie simo ...............
     
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    licha ya kuwa wahitimu hawawezi kujieleza kwa kutumia kiingereza, ............wahitimu hawawezi kujieleza kwa kutumia kiswahili pia.

    wahitimu wengi hawana elimu tya kutosha na wanashindwa kujiamini kujieleza inapolazimu.
     
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    Hivi humu watu mnaweza kweli kujieleza au kazi yenu kunyooshea vidole wengine?
     
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    Hili nalo neno Mkuu.....
     
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    Eebana ndio, hapo mbona bado tatizo...
     
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