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Then how can humans claim to have freewill?
Ans:It is true I and you also have a freewill, see how it is on
Deuteronomy 30:19 (King James Version)
19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live.
Hapa mbingu na nchi zinashuhudia kila tendo hata unapoisoma hii post.
If humans have freewill, how can god claim to know everything before it happens?
Ans:The way you live is just acting(like a movie) the scripts written by him,the only difference is what you choose. Remember as the man thinks so he shall be.
Also read
Jeremiah 29:11 (New International Version)
11 For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
If god has limitless love, and limitless power.
Then how come he allows evil? Can he stop evil? If he can why doesn't he?
Ans: All those evils happens because people have chosen to be evil(freewill) and this lead by FEAR
JEALOUS
HATRADE
REVANGE
GREEB
SUPERSTITION
and ANGER of the people.
By the way you have to know this
Bible (King James)/Ecclesiastes 3:1
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven.
Also see this
Galatians 6:1-9 (New International Version)
Doing Good to All
1 Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted. 2 Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. 3 If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else, 5 for each one should carry his own load.
6 Anyone who receives instruction in the word must share all good things with his instructor.
7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature[a]will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. 9Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.
In order to prove to you that there's the time for every thing and that even the DEVIL know about JESUS, read this;
Matthew 8:28-32 (New King James Version)
Two Demon-Possessed Men Healed
28 When He had come to the other side, to the country of the Gergesenes,[a] there met Him two demon-possessed men, coming out of the tombs, exceedingly fierce, so that no one could pass that way. 29 And suddenly they cried out, saying, What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?
30 Now a good way off from them there was a herd of many swine feeding. 31 So the demons begged Him, saying, If You cast us out, permit us to go away into the herd of swine.
32 And He said to them, Go. So when they had come out, they went into the herd of swine. And suddenly the whole herd of swine ran violently down the steep place into the sea, and perished in the water.
'Hope u 'ev got it. ila ukiulizawa na wewe ujibu
Wapi MaxShimba?
Mkuu sielewi kama unahubiri injili ama unajibu hoja kwa hoja,hata hivyo nyie wahubiri injili mnaongozwa na emotions kwasababu kimsigi hamuamini kwamba the bible should be questioned to begin with,hata FYI kwa mujibu wa bible shetani alikuwa na nguvu sana huko mbinguni na alitaka hta kumpindua Mungu,na Mungu akachukizwa akamtupa duniani,na alipotupwa duniani kwa mujibu wa bible,aliambatana na kikosi chake kilichokuwa kikimtii yeye instead of Mungu,wakati kwa mujibu wa bible,binadamu hayupo na hata Adama na Hawa hajaumbwa...Na kwa taarifa yako ulitakiwa useme kuwa hata shetani na yeye ana nguvu,na hapa duniani bado yeye na Mungu(Ambaye aliamua kuwachanganya binadamu na shetan huku duniani mara baada ya anguko la eden)wanapambana kwasana tu.
Tujaribu kujadili bila emotions kwani hata hivyo vifungu vya bible unavyo quote hapo ni Roman empire walichaguwa kuwa ni vitabu gani viwemo ndani ya bible,na nyaraka nyingi sana waliziminyia kwa manufaa yao,product ya bible ni product ya uongozi huo wa Roma ulioukuwepo na kumyofoa baadhi ya nyaraka na kuziapprove nyingine amabazo ndo mnazi quote hapa.
Msisahahu kuwa dini hizi especially uislam na ukristo vilisababisha upotevu wa muda na material za sayansi zilizokuwa zikifanyiwa kazi kwasababu tu ya kutaka kumanipulate watu na kuwatawala...Sayansi hii ambayo imerahisishha maisha na hata kutufanya tuishi kama binadamu wenye kuyatambua mazingira yao imetokea mbali sana hilo uelewe,tena kuna wakati material zote zilipotea bahatati nzuri zilikuwa kwenye maadnishi ya kiarabu pia na thta was the only way ziliweza kupatikana na kuanza kutafsiriwa tena na kuendelezwa,mifano imeshawekwa hapa na pia unaweza kufuatilia jinsi ambavyo wenzetu waliendelea kwa kuayendleza mawazo ya nyuma na si kuyabeza,kuanzia kwa kina Aristotle,Kepler,Corpenicuss,Galileo Galilei,Brahe,Newton,Sadi Carnot,einstein,Plato descartes na wengineo. Kumbuka kuwa it was the early Greeks more than any of the earlier people who began to replace "religious" explanations with logical arguments based on simple underlying theories.Theories zao hazikuwa correct all the time lakini important contribution zake ni development of a method for dealing with pyhsical pehenomena,method ambayo sasa inaitwa "scientific method" Kama una muda fuatilia Platos's "Alegory of cave" Back then kama alivyosema Bluray kuwa sayansi ilikuwa ikiitwa natural philosophy.
Msichangaye sayansi na dini as one against another kwasababu hata hao waliowaletea didi wangefanya hivyo wasingekuwa na maendeleo.Dini ni imani,na imani ni bayana ya mambo yasioonekana where as the goal of science is to "explain" the appearences,that is to explain what is observed in terms of the basic underlying principles.
Pia naamini kwamba historia huandikwa na washindi,vitabu vyote mnavyosoma vya dini ni nhistoria za makabila mengine na utamaduni wao ambao imebidi uabudiwe kwani washindi ndo waliandika historia,na bado hadi sasa vita vinaendelea especially btn wakristo na waislam,hata ukiangalia old testaments ambayo ni torati inaendena sana na quraan.Nyie watu wa dini mngekuwa wajanja mngetumia nafasi kuwafahamisha wananchi pia kuhusiana na mambo muhimu ya sayansi ili kuuondoa umasikini....Waislam wanaamini ukifa kwa namna flani basi unarithi hata bikira kadhaa huko mbinguni,na wakristo nao wanaamini kuishi ni kristo na kufa ni faida...Yani vurugu tupu!
Bibliae inatoa msisitizo sana kuhusu maisha ya baadaye,yani ukishakufa,na inasema wazi kabisa kuwa utajiri si jambo zuri,issue ambayo ilikuwa more applicable kwenye karne ya kwanza wakati Yesu akiwatetea masikini ambao walikuwa wengi zaidi,message hii imekumbatiwa sana tu Afrika na watu hawaoni umuhi,u wa kutafuta maendeleo kwani ni mambo ya "kidunia" Yani kichefu chefu,tuko nyuma sana,wacha niishie hapa kwasasa.