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"We" are pregnant? Ha. Please!

Discussion in 'Mahusiano, mapenzi, urafiki' started by EMT, May 31, 2011.

  1. EMT

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    Does it drive anyone else absolutely crazy when couples (especially the expectant father) refer to being pregnant as "we're pregnant." Yaani ni sawa na mume anasema "tuna ujauzito". It's like they are trying to take credit for all the work that being pregnant can be. So, whenever I hear a man say "we're pregnant," I want to rage. No matter how supportive and doting the expectant father may be to his round wife, and no matter how much it feels like his whole world is upside down... he really has absolutely no idea.
     
  2. Lizzy

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    I don‘t see how that could be a problem!If the guy can‘t actually get/be pregnant let him atleast ‘‘SAY“ he is!
     
  3. Kiranga

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    Personally I cannot say "we are pregnant", but it all depends on how you look at pregnancy.

    Inawezekana mbaba ka jump through hoops ili mimba ipatikane, na hivyo anaona ni collective effort hata kama anayefanya stage ya kumuweka mtoto tumboni kwa miezi ni mama.

    Perfectly understandable, even uber-liberal professorial, but still not me.

    Think about it, kwa nini mama akipata miscarriage baba aweze kusema "we lost the baby" lakini akiwa pregnant asiweze kusema "we are pregnant" ? To me that statement is about taking ownership in an incredibly benevolent and even futuristic way.
     
  4. itnojec

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    ''my'' wife is pregnant and ''we'' are expecting a baby....
     
  5. Anfaal

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    The usual description for collective pregnancy is, "we are expecting", not beyond that. The courage of being pregnant for an African man is unbearable.
     
  6. AshaDii

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    EMT that is so complicated to say if it is black or white,
    If the lady in question yuko hapo nafikiri ni poa tu (depending on how the guy say it of coz),
    but kama hayupo... i don't believe iko poa - i would have to look at you twice!
     
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    Kwa nini asiseme tuu "We're are expecting a baby"? The intent is as understandable as the execution is absurd. I think it arises out of the noble desire of men (and future fathers) to participate fully in the childrearing. And I understand that for many men, it simply means, "My wife and I are expecting a baby."

    But the first dictionary meaning of pregnant remains, "Carrying developing offspring within the body." Whenever a word is misused, it means the speaker is unaware of the word's meaning, or that the cultural meaning of a word is shifting, or that some ideology is demanding obeisance. Probably all three are in play, but it's the last reality that we should pay attention to. It is not an accident that this phrase, "We're pregnant," has arisen in a culture that in many quarters is ponderously egalitarian and does it try to deny the fundamental differences of men and women/
     
  8. Nyani Ngabu

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    It is a no biggy for me. Afterall, if she conceived through the good old-fashioned way then you both made it happen.

    If both of you will attend all of the doctor visits together, attend the lamaze classes together, be in the delivery room together, raise your child together, then I don't see where the problem is.

    Saying "we are pregnant" will not change your reality. It is just used to show support to the mother of your child. Being there for her in every step of the way makes it very special for all of you involved.
     
  9. The Finest

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    I agree with NN, sometimes it is just used to show support to the mother of the child. Being there for her in every single step shows how much you care and the way you are involved in every way.
     
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    Yopu have a point. there is nobig deal in saying we are pregnant, just a support to your wife...
     
  11. jouneGwalu

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    Nadhani hiyo ni kitu nzuri sana...
    "Tuna mimba" "tunatarajia baby boy"
    Kwangu inasound vizuri sana, na naweza kujivunia kusema hivyo!
    Kwa muda sasa kumekuwa na juhudi za kutufanya wakina baba,
    Tuhusishwe na shughuri ya uzazi kwa ujumla kwanzia mimba hadi kuzaa..
    Hii inamanufaa yake sana kama inavyoweza kuelezwa.....
    Juhudi hizo zimekuwa zikihusisha, kumshirikisha Baba during labour,
    Ikaenda hadi kuruhusu baba kupewa three days off kwa Maternity,
    Hizi juhudi ni za mashirika na wanaharakati,
    Lakini kutamka kuwa "tuna mimba" ni juhudi binafs za baba
    Na akimaanisha inaweza kuwa na maana nzito sana kwenye
    Kumlea mtoto na majukumu yote katika kumsimamia na kumsaidia mzaa chema.
     
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    Sure mtu wangu,
    Hii imenigusa sana
     
  13. jouneGwalu

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    Umekumbusha kitu kingine....
    Mwanzoni wakati natoa mchango wangu,
    Nilipigia picha kama mnaishi under the same roof!
    Kweli kama mnakaa mbali na mzaa chema inawezakuwa sio idea nzuri sana japo nayo itategemea status ya mahusiano yenu!
     
  14. BlackBerry

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    Kwa kweli ni nzuri sana kama mwanaume akiweza kusema hivo, ila kwa kibongobongo ngumu sana kukuta mwanaume anarefer ujauzito wa mkewe kama hivo, kila kitu kina mwanzo tutaanzia kwako EMT au vipi
     
  15. AshaDii

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    EMT I don't think you will have to defend that by using the meaning in dictionary...
    there is what the call a connotative meaning and Denotative meaning and in history
    hakuna wakati language inatoholewa meaning like at the present! I think it is more how
    you as a guy says it and where you say it... i do get where it is coming from but do
    get the way NN and TF have explained sort of got it...

    And i do believe a really few men would have the guts to say that
    We are pregnent rather than expecting...
     
  16. AshaDii

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    Naona you get where it is coming from... It sounds awkward kama mhusika is not around..
     
  17. Nyani Ngabu

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    I can see how some men will have a problem with saying "we are pregnant".

    I think it's just male chauvinism. Some men labor under the misconception that saying "we are pregnant" somehow emasculates them.

    It's not like that at all. It's all about family togetherness in my view.
     
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    Hiyo wanaweza kusema kwa kidhungu but in kiswa you can't say that "tuna mimba" mmmhhhh hiyo ngumu bana
     
  19. AshaDii

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    NN i get that and it is really good that you do have such a positive perspective..
    a few guys have that because a variety of things (i radher not say... but i kno you get)
    Yes it is true that thrashing the out look on the guy who says that may seem like
    male chauvinism but the truth remains kua a lot of guys would look at you weirdly...
    But in cases of some friends (depending na the friends you have ..) you could
    comfortably admit that and it would seem ok - plus in fact i guarantee you would
    say it in a utani way....
     
  20. BlackBerry

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    Asha D mi naona hata akiwa mbali still wako pregnant, sababu hakuna kilichobadili kwamba yule mwanaume ndio alliyetoa mbegu zake iwe anaishi nae au yuko mbali au waonaje
     
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