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Waziri Kapuya aibiwa

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    BAK JF-Expert Member

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    Nilishawahi kusikia Mkapa na yule aliyekuwa anampigia debe kwenye kinyang'anyiro cha 2005, A. Kigoda nao wana mgodi wao wa dhahabu. Nilidhani ni porojo tu lakini baada ya kuona hii article inawezekana ikawa ni kweli

    Waziri Kapuya aibiwa

    na David Frank, Arusha
    Chanzo: Tanzania Daima

     
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    Bongolander JF-Expert Member

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    What is so special kwa Kapuya kuibiwa. Watanzania wangapi wanaibiwa kila siku?
     
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    BAK JF-Expert Member

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    Nia hasa ya kupost article hii ni hiyo habari kwamba mgodi huo unamilikiwa na Waziri. Je mawaziri na Vingunge wangapi katika nchi yetu wana migodi yao binafsi? Je ni halali kwa mtu binafsi kuwa na mgodi wake badala ya rasilimali hizi kuwa za Watanzania wote?
     
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    Du Mzee naona sasa baadhi ya watanzania tumeingiwa na sumu. sikukufikiria haraka hiyo thread on that angle. Kweli, nadhani mwandishi angesema tu Kapuya naye anamiliki mgodi!
     
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    Waandishi wana "sense of news" wanapima na kuona kuwa ni kitu gani kinaweza kufanya jambo kuwa habari. Kwa harakaharaka mimi naona aliyeandika habari hiyo ana high sense of news; Bila shaka kaangalia mambo/vigezo matatu kutengeneza hiyo habari 1. Kapuya ni waziri 2. Alipata ajalijuzijuzi 3. Suala la kumiliki mgodi. Tukianza na kigezo cha kwanza, kwa kuwa Prof. Kapuya ni waziri, tena wa ulinzi anajulina na ana uzito katika jamii, kwa hivyo hata kama angeibiwa nyumbani kwake ingeandikwa na bado ikawa na uzito. Kigezo cha pili kinaweza kutumika kwa lengo la kuionesha jamii juu ya namna gani anazidi kuandamwa na masahibu. Na Kigezo cha tatu bila shaka kinazingatia ukweli kuwa suala la migodi/madini kwa sasa linazungumzwa/liko katika mjadala mkubwa katika jamii yetu.


    Kuhusu kumiliki kwake mgodi kama waziri mimi sioni kama kuna tatizo sana. Kwa jinsi ninavyoelewa, mara nyingi madini ya rubi yanachimbwa na wachimbaji wadogo wadogo na mtu yeyote kwa nafasi yake nadhani anaweza kufanya hivyo.
     
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    Kwa maana nyingine kama Buzwagi inakuwa owned na Karamagi hakuna tatizo! Mapato yote ya mgodi huo yakiwa ya Karamagi badala ya kuwa mapato ya Taifa hakuna tatizo! Mwe! Kazi kweli kweli!
     
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    Jamani na mimi nataka Plot huko Longido kwenye madini in particular, nifanyeje nipate, au mpaka niwe kwenye Cabinet
     
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    Phillemon Mikael JF Gold Member

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    kaka ukiona wanagombea na kutakiana mabaya wenyewe kwa wenyewe ..usifikiri wana uchungu na wewe ..faida ni nyingi zikiwemo kugawiwa migodi buuure..
     
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    Wa Tanzania tulie tuuu maana hata hizo ardhi kidoogo tunazojaribu kuzimiliki kwa jasho letu in the formof mashamba n ardhi twanyanganywaa..lakini vigogo wana hadi plot za migodi..

    No wonder why hatutaendelea kamwe ni kama tumelaaniwa,Tanzanite ni mostly yapatikana Tz tu lakini nchi zinazoongoza kwa ku export tanzanite Tz is not even in the top 3 of them..i find it as ni utani kama sio joke
     
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    kapuya naye ni fisadi nini?
     
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    Hakuna jipya lolote Mh. Kapuya kumiliki mgodi, wala hakuna ubaya wowote, labda tu mwandishi kaamua 'kutuuzia' gazeti.

    Mwaka 1995 nilibahatika kutembelea sehemu za 'machimbo' ya madini kule Tunduru, enzi hizo jiwe lilokuwa linatoka lilikuwa ALEXANDERLITE, na kule maeneo ya babati -KANGALA ambako vijana walikuwa wanachimba RODLITE. Niliyoyaona huko mpaka leo nimeamini jinsi watu wakiamua, wanavyojituma na migodi yao kuitafuta shilingi. (Japo kuna waliokufuru mfano jamaa mmoja ambaye baada ya kuuza mawe yake ya ALEXANDERLITE kwa Tshs 500,000,000/=, YES, Millioni Mia tano!, jamaa alinunua Landrover hapo hapo Tunduru, na kulikosha kwa bia!)

    Wajemeni, Tanzania imebarikiwa madini ya kila aina kwa aina, na sehemu zote hizo nilizokwenda kuna wachimbaji wadogo wanaoendesha maisha yao kwa huo uchimbaji 'wa kubahatisha', na kuuza 'mawe' yao kwa wa-thai kuanzia kule kule Tunduru mpaka pale Upanga, nk.

    Biashara ya madini ngumu wazee asikwambie mtu. Ukiona Sunda, au Askofu nk waliibua 'mawe' ya TANZANITE ya mamilioni ya shilingi jua cha moto walikiona, kwani kazi hiyo hawakuifanya kwa siku au mwezi mmoja! (Askofu alipochanganyikiwa na kuanza kuzimwaga pesa toka ghorofani pale Palsons Hotel, ilikuwa ni mfano tosha wa 'wazimu' wa mawe!)

    Sehemu nyingi nchini Tanzania bado kuna wachimbaji wengi wadogo walojianzishia 'migodi' yao,... na serikali sana sana inatumia watendaji wa vijiji ku control, kwani kinachopatikana sana sana kinamfaa huyu mchimbaji na kidogo mfanyabiashara (middle man) anayelipeleka kuuza jiwe mjini.

    Kwahiyo ndugu yangu AUGUST kama kweli unataka plot, jifungashe ukaweke kambi huko Longido,...ila ujue mgodi mpaka 'uteme', kazi umeifanya, na kati ya hayo mawe utayoyapata tegemea ma rejekti kibao na kulaliwa kwa sana na wa thailand.
     
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    Mee wa Mavituuzi Member

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    jamani hiyo ni mwanzo tu ,,mungu atawaonyesha yote pamoja na yanayomilikiwa na JK NA ROSTAM AZIZ,,ACHA ILE YA JAMAA WETU WA MWANZA NAIBU WAZIRI,,MUNGU TUOKOE KAMA SI MAPENZI YAKO UTUEPUSHE NA VIKOMBE HIVI
     
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    Mee wa Mavituuzi Member

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    August Migodi Ipo Kama Mchingoma Alivyosema Aacha Kulaliwa Mpaka Uteme..usishangae Kuambiwa Ukamkate Kichwa Mama Yako Au Ndugu Yoyote Chimbo Liteme Utaweza ,,anachofanya Kapuya Na Jk Na Ra Wanajua Wenyewe Wewe Utaweza?????karibu
     
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    Kama kuna masharti ya Mganga , au kumchinja Mama Yangu, Basi Ngoja niwaachie wenyewe, mimi niwe msindikizaji tu.
     
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    Kwa maoni yangu kuna tofauti kubwa ya wachimbaji wadogo wadogo kujitafuria riziki na viongozi wa juu wa Chama na Serikali kuwa wanahodhi machimbo ya madini ya aina yeyote. Leo wanaown machimbo ya Rubi kesho itakuwa machimbo ya almasi na dhahabu. Hii rasilimali ni ya Watanzania wote hivyo pato lake linastahili kuingia kwenye mfuko wa Taifa badala ya watu binafsi. Kwa maoni yangu si haki kwa watu binafsi kuown rasilimali za Watanzania (migodi ya madini) Si tulishasikia hapa kwamba Yona na Mkapa wanaown Kiwira Coal Mining? Je nani aliwapa haki ya kuown KCM? Walilipa kiasi gani na kwa nani?
     
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    Take five Bubu ataka Kusema
    Na pia kama hiyo allocation ya plot ilifanyika kihalali au ndio kuwafukuza wachimbaji wadogo, mfano ni huko merererani wakapewa Tanzania One na Akina Retired General Mboma etc etc
     
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    Rubabi Senior Member

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    Nilikuwa sijui kuwa hata kapuya ana mgodi!Jamani sasa CCM ni chama cha Mabusiness!Kwa nini bado tunawachagua hawa wakati inaonekana wazi kuwa wote wako kwenye siasa kufanya biashara!Huu ujinga wetu watanzania utaisha lini?
     
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    Kiswahili kinakuwa tatizo hata kwa waswahili wenyewe... WAZIRI KAPUYA AIBIWA! mbona taarifa nilizonazo ni kuwa waziri Kapuya leo kapelekwa India kwa matibabu zaidi sasa ataibiwa vipi naomba ufafanuzi hapo..

    Kilichoibwa ni hivyo vitu sio waziri...

    Teh teh teh teh
     
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    Ndugu,

    Viongozi nao ni raia wa nchi hii na wana HAKI ya kumiliki migodi. Madini ni rasilimali ya WATANZANIA (including hawa viongozi) wote.

    Migodi ni kama biashara yoyote ile, pato lake linaingia kwenye mfuko wa Taifa kupitia KODI. Naona tunataka kwenda kwenye enzi ambayo mtu akijituma na kujitahidi kujipatia riziki yake kupitia MIGODI awe adui wa nchi.

    Hao wanaolalamika hawajui hata jinsi ya kutafuta claim na kumiliki mgodi. Huo ni uvivu wa fikra...Jitumeni Wajameni.
     
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    wewe nae......mali zilizoibiwa ni za Kapuya. kwahivo basi kapuya kaibiwa!!!!!! wapi hapo ambiguity!!??? au ulitaka kutupa hizo habari kwamba kapuya kaenda udosini kwa matibabu zaidi.....si useme tu.
     
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