Wall Street protest

Ami said:
Mr TOYO.Ile mada yako nyengine ya REVOLUTION IN US imekwenda wapi?.Mbona tungeendelea kuchangia kule bila tabu.
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Tuko pamoja mpaka kieleweke!!

GOD bess JF.
 
[h=2]Sunday, October 9, 2011[/h][h=3]Confronting the American Dream[/h]
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October 8 2011 - 02:32[/h]By Hiyam Noir


I felt that something important is happening, yesterday when I came home from the Occupy Wall Streetdowntown Manhattan entering its third week, since the protest began on Sept. 17th , when about 1,000 activists gathered in Lower Manhattan to Occupy the Wall Street. A protest organized against a political and a financial system which policy rewards the wealthiest 1 %, at the expense of 99 % of the population.


With the economic and social injustice pervasive in our world, the rise of a new large popular - political movement is growing in numbers for every day. It lead me to believe that the Occupy Wall Street - movement may be a turning point for America , and in genuine solidarity with the struggle for economic and social justice around the world. May it succeed or fail, one thing is for sure, we will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%.


Given the anger, as well as the impatience and grievances which is extending all through the country, I am surprised and confused that despite the alarming situation in the country, yesterday, three weeks after the outburst of popular anger, it turned out to be only about 100.000 people, in America ( population: 312,279,000 people ), that took part in the demonstrations to bear witness to the brutal breakdown of a society which is failing to function. It should have been millions of people out on the streets.


We need change in politics – we need it now and here. Question, has this movement a potential to reshape our common future? The events in down-town Manhattan is spreading across the country, reflecting the reality of the American political landscape. While the world of spectators is watching what is taking place here, they are becoming increasingly aware of, that the American Dream was as short-lived as it was meaningless - nothing to admire or long for. The question is lingering, will American people have the genuine courage - and the time, long enough to wake up, to be able reshape the common future?


In 2010, 48.9 million Americans lived in food insecure households, a hunger and food insecurity by 30 %, meaning they were hungry or faced food insecurity at some point during that year. In 2001 before the recession, 16.1 % of the U.S. population were hungry or faced hunger, according to the Hunger in America paper.(Donald S. Shepard, Elizabeth Setren, DonnaCooper October 5, 2011)

CHANZO:
Uprooted Palestinians: Confronting the American Dream
 
Marekebisho ya kiuchumi yanahitajia marekebisho ya kisiasa Marekani
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Mhariri wa gazeti la Wall Street Journal la Marekani amesema kuwa, mabadiliko ya mfumo wa kisiasa nchini humo hayawezekani kama hakukufanyika kwanza mabadiliko katika mfumo wa kiuchumi nchini humo.
Arun Gupta ameiambia televisheni ya Press TV kuwa wananchi wa Marekani wanapinga vikali kurundikana utajiri wa nchi yao kati ya kikundi kidogo tu cha watu huku mamilioni ya wananchi wengine wa Marekani wakiteseka kwa shida na ametaka mfumo huo wa kiuchumi ubadilishwe.
Ameongeza kuwa, mabadiliko yoyote ya kisiasa hayawezi kuwa na faida kwa wananchi wa Marekani kama hakukufanyika kwanza mabadiliko katika mfumo wa kiuchumi kwani mashiriki na makampuni yanayoendesha uchumi wa Marekani yanaathiri moja kwa moja katika mfumo wa kisiasa wa nchi hiyo.
Matamshi hayo ya mhariri wa gazeti hilo la Wall Street Journal la Marekani ni ushahidi kamili wa kwamba mfumo wa kibepari umeshindwa kuleta uadilifu wa kijamii kwani sifa yake kuu ni kufanya utajiri wa nchi udhibitiwe na watu wachache tu, huku mamilioni ya watu wengine wakiteseka kwa shida na matatizo mbalimbali.
CHANZO:
Marekebisho ya kiuchumi yanahitajia marekebisho ya kisiasa Marekani
 
Mr.Toyo said:
Nilijaribu kuperuzi sikuiona tena na nahofia kuwa huenda imefutwa (roho ikaniuma sana) ndo nikaanzisha nyingine (kwa kuwa mimi ni mkereketwa)

Naamini kuwa Moderators watatumia busara/hekima ya kuziunganisha zote (zinazofanana kimaudhui) katika thread moja.

Tuko pamoja mpaka kieleweke!!

GOD bess JF.
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Nilikuuliza vile kwa kujua kwamba kwenye hili jukwaa lugha kali hata ya kweli juu ya Amerika huwa haivumiliwi.
Kwa hivyo Nguvu ya umma USA ni nyepesi kidogo kuliko Revolution in USA.Hata hivyo ukereketwa au vyenginevyo hakuwezi kuiokoa USA na downfall inayoiandama.
ALLAAHU AKBAR!.
 
Washington (CNN) -- Politicians fought Sunday to cast the ongoing Wall Street protests in a very different light, with two GOP presidential candidates calling them "class warfare" and prominent Democrats expressing support for the protesters' message.

As lawmakers took to the political talk shows, a crowd of about 100 people protested outside the White House, part of a wave of protests spreading nationwide inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement.
The Secret Service said one person was arrested and will be charged with assault on a police officer after throwing a shoe at a uniformed officer.
Lisa Simeone, one of the protest organizers, said the man was trying to throw his shoe over the fence of the White House but missed.

Most of those taking part carried an anti-war message -- something that has happened in other cities as well. Several carried signs asking President Barack Obama to join them for a "beer summit."
Rep. John Lewis, D-Georgia, who visited a protest Saturday in Atlanta, told CNN Sunday that the protesters "want to be heard."

"And at the same time they want to speak to America, speak to people in power, to officials of the American government but also to the business community, especially Wall Street, to corporate America, to bankers. They're saying, in effect, that we bailed out Wall Street and now it's time for Wall Street and corporate America to help bail out the American people.

"People are hurting. They're in pain and they're looking for jobs. They want us to humanize the American government but also humanize corporate America."

Arrest outside White House as lawmakers debate protests - CNN.com
 
jmushi1 said:
Mkuu kwani hao wanaprotest kwasababu ya mambo ya dini ama ni ndoto za mchana?
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Kila unaponiona mimi una wasi wasi kwamba natetea dini.
Lakini kwa upande mwengine elewa kwamba Amerika inaanguka kutokana na kutokufuata dini ya kweli.
Dini yao ya mambo ya pesa na uroho wa mali ni ukafiri sawa na ukristo na Uyahudi.
 
[h=2]Sunday, October 9, 2011[/h][h=3]An American Awakening?[/h]
Wednesday, 05 October 2011 13:10




By Richard Falk


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The exciting presence of protestors on Wall Street (and the spread of the Occupy Wall Street protest across the country) is a welcome respite from years of passivity in America, not only in relation to the scandalous legal and illegal abuses of comprador capitalists, but also to the prolongations of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, a rising Islamophobic tide at home, and a presidency that seems less willing to confront hedge fund managers than jobless masses. But will this encouraging presence be sustained in a manner that brings some hope of restored democracy and social wellbeing at home and responsible law-oriented leadership abroad?

There is little doubt that this move to the streets expresses a deep disillusionment with ordinary politics based on elections and governing institutions. Obama’s electoral victory in 2008 was the last hope of the young in America who poured unprecedented enthusiasm into his campaign that promised so much and delivered so little. Perhaps worse than Obama’s failure to deliver, was his refusal to fight, or even to bring into his entourage of advisors some voices of empathy and mildly progressive outlook.

From his initial appointment of Rahm Emmanuel onwards, it was clear that the Obama presidency would be shaped by the old Washington games waged by special interests, as abetted by a Republican Party leaning ever further to the right, a surging Tea Party that is pushing the opposition to the outer extremes of irrational governance, and a Democratic Party that is trying to survive mainly by mimicking Republicans. If such a portrayal of ordinary politics is more or less correct it is a wonder that a more radical sense of America’s future took so long to materialize, or even to show these present signs of displeasure with what is and engagement with what might be.

For those of us with our eyes on the Middle East two observations follow. The extraordinary falling back from Obama’s speech in Cairo of 2009, which was, contrary to how it was spun by the pro-Israeli media, a very cautious approach to the Israel/Palestine conflict, but at least forward looking in its realization that something more had to be done if negotiations were ever to be more than a charade. The speech contained lots of reassurances for Israel, especially it treated the dispute as essentially territorial (withdrawal to 1967 borders, which deliberately pretends that refugee and exile rights of Palestinians are irrelevant to a just peace), and only seemed to project balance when it insisted on a suspension of settlement expansion as a confidence-building step toward a new cycle of negotiations. It really was a most modest request to insist that Israel temporarily stop expanding settlements that were almost unanimously seen as flagrant violations of Article 49(6) of the Fourth Geneva Convention and posing a real threat to the viability of an independent Palestinian state.

When Israeli leaders and their zealous American backers indicated ‘no go,’ the Obama administration back peddled with accelerating speed, gradually isolating the United States on the global stage by the unconditionality of its support for Israel even in situations where Israel is seen by virtually the entire rest of the world as defiant toward international law. Besides this, a few months ago the leaked Palestine Papers underscored Israel’s disinterest in a negotiated solution to the conflict even in the face of Palestinian concession of huge Palestinian Authority concessions behind closed doors. Of course, Obama should not take the whole blame as Congress has outdone him when it comes to support for partisan positions that often seem to outdo the Knesset.

The latest phase in American foreign policy in relation to the conflict is associated with the American threat to veto the statehood bid of Palestine in the UN Security Council, coupled with its arm-twisting efforts to induce others to vote with against statehood or at least abstain, so that Palestine will not get the nine affirmative votes it needs to receive a positive recommendation and the U.S. will be spared the embarrassment and backlash of casting a veto. The shrillness of the sterile call by Obama in his 2011 speech to the General Assembly to the parties to resume negotiations after almost twenty years of futility, and for the Palestinians the effects were far worse than mere failure (the ordeal of occupation, loss of land to settlements, annexation wall, road infrastructure). It should finally be understood. Time is not neutral. It helps Israel, hurts Palestine.

Disavowing American party and institutional politics and situating hope with the arousal of progressive forces in civil society is different from concluding that the Wall Street protests is more than a tantalizing flash in the pan at this stage. Even this cautionary commentary, it is obvious that the events own their primary inspiration to Tahrir Square (with a surprising initial push from the Canadian anti-consumerist organization Adbusters, previous mainly known for its irreverent and vaguely anarchistic magazine by the same name), especially the ethos of a nonviolent leaderless, programless spontaneous rising that learns day by day what it is about, who it is, and what is possible. Of course, the stakes are much lower than in Egypt or elsewhere in the Middle East, as there is little risk of death at this point on American streets. At the same time, the monsters of Wall Street are not quite as potent a unifying target as was the grim personage of Hosni Mubarak, cruel autocrat, and so it may be harder to transform the protests into a sustainable movement.

In the end, we must hope and engage. The beginnings of hope are rooted in the correctness of analysis, and so we can be thankful that this initiative places its focus on financial and corporate structures, and not on the state. The implicit not so subtle point is that the center of power over the destinies of the American people has shifted its locus from Washington to New York!! We’ll see!!
 
Ami said:
Kila unaponiona mimi una wasi wasi kwamba natetea dini.
Lakini kwa upande mwengine elewa kwamba Amerika inaanguka kutokana na kutokufuata dini ya kweli.
Dini yao ya mambo ya pesa na uroho wa mali ni ukafiri sawa na ukristo na Uyahudi.
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Kauli yako hiyo ni sawa na kusema "Kila unaponiona mimi una wasiwasi kwamba natetea dini,lakini kwa upande mwingine natetea dini" Teh teh teh!Kweli kuna watu hamnazo kabisa.
 
Mimi huwa naziangalia events kama hizo kwa "skeptical eye". usijeukashangaa hii Move ya "Occupy Wallstreet" inailenga Iran!.
walio engineer "Arab Spring", waliilenga nchi kama Iran na Libya, Libya ikashindikana wakaona waingie full force kwa mabomu na risasi n.k. kwa upande wa Iran ishu ilibuma, sasa jamaa wanakuja na stratergy mpya!, organise rallies, support vikundi ndani ya iran navyo vifanye kama wamarekani, then penyeza ajenda ya revolution. hawa jamaa wapo mbele katika grand stratergy
 
Gamba la Nyoka said:
Mimi huwa naziangalia events kama hizo kwa "skeptical eye". usijeukashangaa hii Move ya "Occupy Wallstreet" inailenga Iran!.
walio engineer "Arab Spring", waliilenga nchi kama Iran na Libya, Libya ikashindikana wakaona waingie full force kwa mabomu na risasi n.k. kwa upande wa Iran ishu ilibuma, sasa jamaa wanakuja na stratergy mpya!, organise rallies, support vikundi ndani ya iran navyo vifanye kama wamarekani, then penyeza ajenda ya revolution. hawa jamaa wapo mbele katika grand stratergy
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Mimi naamini kuwa lengo la mbali na lengo kuu la awamu ya 2 ni Iran.Hawa jamaa kweli mahodari sana na wavumilivu katika njama zao.Angalia vifo vyote hivyo Iraq na Afghanistan bado wapo.
Unajuwa mafanikio haya kwa kiasi kikubwa yametokana na kulala kwa wamarekani wenyewe,lakini wamarekani ni binadamu pia.
Binadamu kwa ujanja wake hupanga akaridhia mpango wake akitabiri utafanikiwa kwa 100% lakini Mwenyezi Mungu ni mbora wa wapangaji na mpinduaji wa njama zozote.Katika hali kama hii ndugu yangu Gamba uwe mvumilivu na elewa kuwa kwa asilimia zote Mungu atazishinda njama zote zenye lengo ovu na dini yake sahihi.
Maudhi na hasara vitaendelea miaka mingi hatimaye ushindi hautokuwa upande wa Marekani na wenzake wala kwa warusi.

Ninavyosoma nyenendo za fitna ni kuwa Syria hata aridhie yote atakayotakiwa kufanya ataandamwa mpaka adhoofike na kuanguka,lengo ni kuiua Hizbullah ili hatimaye vita ihamishiwe Iran kumaliza nguvu za kijeshi mikononi mwa waislamu kabla kutangazwa wazi nia ya kuikalia Saudia.Hapo sasa usishangae kuzuia kufanikiwa kwa hili mambo yakaanza kuvurugika kuanzia Iraq,Afghanistan,Pakistan,Libya kabla hata hawajaanza kuhamia Iran.
 
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[video]http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/10/14/piers-sean-penn-wall-street.cnn[/video]
 
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