Wakenya lazima wawe na digrii kuingia Dubai

Rufiji said:
This is what can be described as the zenith of lunacy. Waarabu are acting totally irrational on this matter, simply because their people were mistreated by Kenya's officials it doesn't mean they should do the same. One should reminds them that two wrongs don't make a right.
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mkuu umeongea point,nashangaa watu wanaanza kuwa-attack wakenya nje ya mada,sijui nini hasa hao UAE OFFICIALS walitofautiana na KENYAN IMMIGRATION but still UAE acted irrational,mfano yule CANADIAN EMBASSY WORKER alimtemea mate polisi tukamrudisha then wacanada wangechukua hatua kama hii kwa watz mtajisikiaje?
 
i think this is a blue print to all eac member who want to do business with these people! no degree no entry, simple as that!
 
Smatta said:
kwani waTZ ni kina nani? naomba unijibu hilo swali? Twaongea mambo ya dubei, wewe watoka nje ya mada waanza kubadilisha mwelekeo wa thread hii, ndio maana mwadharaulika nyie.
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acha hasira wewe, he is simply giving his attestation of how he knows Kenyans and how they deserve such treatments
 
Smatta said:
I think you should also do the same, and we see who will suffer.
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you are dreaming we dont depend anything! i repeat ANYTHING from Kenya Tanzania can self sustain itself from reasorces to anything! so keep dreaming if today we cut realtions with Kenya, you are to suffer starting with you in Tanzania and not Tanzania
 
Who Cares? said:
smatta...do u really think WE TANZANIANS will suffer???..HOW?...unataka kusema No kenya No Tanzania sio?...angalia vizuri naamini KINYUME CHAKE NDIO SAHIHI
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heheh hii kali kaka ila nathani you meant form VI certification huu tutawaweka kando for sure
 
Dubai rejects Kenya’s bid to end visa row

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Most Kenyan businesspeople who buy merchandise in Dubai do not have degrees and consequently their businesses will suffer if the new visa rules are anything to go by. Photo/FILE
By KEVIN MWANZA (email the author)
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Posted Friday, April 30 2010 at 00:00

Kenya’s bid to settle a month-long diplomatic row with the United Arab Emirates (UAE) over new visa rules appears to have flopped, signalling that thousands of traders will remain locked out of their most popular source market for imported consumer goods.
A statement posted on UAE’s government website said that the visa issue was not part of the agenda of the talks with a team of Kenyan diplomats that visited Dubai early this week, suggesting that no agreement had been reached on the matter.
“The visit by Kenya’s Foreign minister was to discuss bilateral relations between the two countries. It has absolutely nothing to do with the false media reports on (deportation of UAE officials),” said the statement signed by Sultan Al Qurtasi Al Nuaimi, a director of Consular Affairs at UAE’s Foreign ministry.
When they left for the UAE, the team of diplomats, led by Foreign Affairs minister Moses Wetangula, had placed the new visa conditions that bars non-graduate Kenyans from visiting the emirate top on their agenda.
UAE government’s position gained credence on Wednesday after the Kenyan delegation failed to send a statement they had promised on the outcome of the talks.
Instead, Mr Wentangula flew out of the emirate for China where he joined President Kibaki who is on an official visit to Shanghai.
The Foreign Affairs ministry’s silence means that Dubai continues to uphold its new visa rules, putting at risk the livelihoods of Kenyan importers of goods such as electronics, textiles, household goods and industrial products from the free port city that was valued at Sh113 billion last year.
It could also hurt the flow of more than Sh300 million in monthly remittances or 10 per cent of the country’s total monthly remittance from Kenyans working in UAE and whose jobs are now on the line.
Sultan Al Qurtasi said that the degree requirement was introduced to regulate the flow of Kenyans to the Emirate, refuting claims that it was in retaliation for a recent deportation of the UAE citizens.
The degree directive is only applicable to Kenyan citizens, according to the website.
Kenya’s Foreign Affairs ministry officials on Thursday said they had no fresh information on the minister’s trip to UAE, adding that Mr Wetangula and his permanent secretary had moved from Dubai to China.
The volume of trade between the two countries has tilted in favour of UAE as Kenya’s imports stood at Sh113 billion in 2008 compared to exports of Sh7.5 billion.
“Dubai is the one of the largest destination for Kenya’s human resource export and also a major source of cheap products for both local consumption and re-export to other countries in this region,” said Dr Mukhisa Kituyi, former Trade minister.
About 36, 000 Kenyans are currently working in the UAE, notably in the construction and hospitality industries, according to the immigration ministry.
Exporters of commodities have begun to feel the pinch of the spat.
“Some of my business associates who deal in spare parts and sell refurbished vehicles from Dubai have been hit badly by the directive as they can’t get more stock for their business and have to source from Singapore or Japan,” said Mr David Kinyanjui, a car dealer in Nairobi who frequently travels to Dubai for business.
But Mr Kinyanjui is not alone. The same story is repeated by electronics, textiles, household goods importers interviewed.
“I’ve been forced to use other people who have degrees to sources for my goods from Dubai because I don’t have a degree my self,” said Mr Ben Kimeu, a computer accessories dealer at the Jamia Mall in Nairobi. “This has cost me a lot in terms of not getting the right quality of equipment and delays of up to a month. I used to restock every week, but now I have to do it once every month,” said Mr Kimeu, adding that he has lost between Sh800, 000 and Sh1.5 million in the three weeks the new visa requirement has been in effect.
Already, Kenyans working for UAE companies such as Emirates Airlines have been asked to comply with the directive, in a move that has placed some jobs on the line.
Some analysts have been arguing that severed relations with the UAE is not going to affect the country as much on the basis that the volume of trade between the two countries is unfairly tilted in favour of UAE, while Kenya can still get sources for its imports from the other countries in the Asian region.
The total volume of trade last year between the two countries stood at Sh100 billion mostly re-exports to countries such as Uganda, Rwanda and Congo a huge chunk of which entailed electronics and clothing.
Imports from UAE to Kenya include refurbished motor vehicles, petroleum products, beauty products, Jewellery, IT accessories, iron and steel, resins and plastics.
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/...64/-/view/printVersion/-/4u2ks0z/-/index.html
 
who knows what is next? Kenyan goverment officials can't sneak their noses in the West, now those dudes without of BA degree (who are many) can not step in Dubai! we should do sth to pay back their spearheading a refusal of one sell for our ivory stockpile
 
Malipo hapa hapa duniani,mtenda akitendewa hujihisi kaonewa.sasa gayo chora tena ile katuni,safari hii ,waziri analamba mgongo wa pua ya mwarabu.
 
This time wameingia mlango sio wenyewe maana hawa jamaa wakiamua kuwa arrogant mpaka wanakera!
 
Bawa mwamba said:
Malipo hapa hapa duniani,mtenda akitendewa hujihisi kaonewa.sasa gayo chora tena ile katuni,safari hii ,waziri analamba mgongo wa pua ya mwarabu.
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Ni Gado babu, si Gayo na unamaanisha ile katuni ya press yenyu ikimramba Rais Kikwete viatu?
 
Smatta said:
Ni Gado babu, si Gayo na unamaanisha ile katuni ya press yenyu ikimramba Rais Kikwete viatu?
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ni yenu na sio yenyu na ni kweli Gado (Godfrey Mwampemba, a true Tanzanian) na sio Gayo (James Gayo, u know plent of them in TZ)!
 
Smatta said:
Ni Gado babu, si Gayo na unamaanisha ile katuni ya press yenyu ikimramba Rais Kikwete viatu?
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Hivi Smatta unajifanya unajua kila kitu, Gayo tunaye pia, Gado tumewaazima awasaidie. Mmeingia choo cha kike, na sisi bado retaliation kwenye pembe za ndovu..bado tuna bifu na ninyi, na ndiyo maana hatuwaamini, na hatutakaa pamoja hata siku moja. Mna bahati bahati tunatawalia na kina Chief Mangungo..lakini nao mwisho wao unakaribia.
 
Haha, Kenyans diplomatic portfolio is a big Failure.Luhyas wanajulikana kuwa na natural skills za diplomacy but Wetang'ula ameula wa Chuya.Kambas ndo wanaoiweza foreign affairs
 
Ben said:
Haha, Kenyans diplomatic portfolio is a big Failure.Luhyas wanajulikana kuwa na natural skills za diplomacy but Wetang'ula ameula wa Chuya.Kambas ndo wanaoiweza foreign affairs
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Hata wizara mnagawana ki kabila? Hivi hiyo portfolio ya mambo ya nje imejaa waluhya watupu? Na unashauri watimuliwe WOTE waletwe wakamba! Ama kweli mna safari ndefu.

Amandla........
 
Upuzi mtupu. Jadilini hoja mwache kutoka nje ya mada kwa kuingiza ukabila kwenye thread hii. Some of y'all new comers are killing this international forum, you just being petty and making this a mud slinging contest. We need the old int forum back, some of you should creep back to the hole you came from.
 
Smatta said:
Upuzi mtupu. Jadilini hoja mwache kutoka nje ya mada kwa kuingiza ukabila kwenye thread hii. Some of y'all new comers are killing this international forum, you just being petty and making this a mud slinging contest. We need the old int forum back, some of you should creep back to the hole you came from.
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Of all the people, is it you Smatta condemning bad languages here on tribes? How about your never ending insults in this forum? Is it may be your tribe has been mentioned here? so are you a Luhya buddy :becky:? Be aware a kamba wants your Foreign Affairs job!
 
Unaelekea ni uamuzi (wa muda mfupi) wa kulipizana kisasi kama siyo kunidhamishana kidiplomasia. Njia rahisi ingalikuwa kushirikiana na wafanya biashara wa Tz, Ug au Rw (katika jina la shirikisho...??!) ili kuweza kuendelea kupata bidhaa kirahisi kwani wao siyo lazima kwao kuwa na digrii.

Ila tatizo la jirani zetu wakati mwingine wanakuwa na maamuzi ya ubinafsi zaidi ambayo hayana manufaa. Ingekuwa nchi nyingine ilitendwa vile katika mjadala wa kuuza pembe za ndovu ninahisi mpaka ungeshafungwa... Na ndiyo maana hata katika kushirikiana inabidi kuwa makini maana wenzetu hawana hiana.
 
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